Can Science and Religion Co-exist Peacefully?

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Fri, 2010-12-03 14:01

Snert

Very well. My only point about the ancient Greeks (specifically, those who believed) was that today, in 2010, I don't think most of us would have too much difficulty dismissing a genuine belief that Zeus took the form of a swan as nonsense. Certainly, if someone wanted to pass laws to appease or flatter Zeus we'd oppose that, yes? And if someone were to suggest that belief in Zeus is good, because lots of good people have believed in Zeus, and have done good things while believing in Zeus, we'd probably shake our heads. And if someone were to insist that a disbelief in Zeus is a form of faith that's really no different from a belief in Zeus, I think we'd probably tell them to take a long walk off a short dock.

So why, specifically, is the belief that God spoke to Moses as a shrub on fire different? Why does that retain a veneer of maturity and rationality that a belief in Zeus would not?

Fri, 2010-12-03 15:02

#103

absentia

It isn't and doesn't. The ancient Greek culture has been superceded, as has the Egyptian and Aztec, and so on. People cling to their living cultures, that's all.

Fri, 2010-12-03 15:12

#104

6079_Smith_W

Now regarding a deity speaking out of a burning bush, according to this it would sound a hell of a lot better than those paper cups we use as speakers:

http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/PopularElectronics/May1968/Flame_Amplificat...

Fri, 2010-12-03 21:33

#105

Fidel

Snert wrote:

Okay, but let's not pretend that the ancient Greeks didn't believe in the Gods of ancient Greece. It wasn't an allegory for them any more than Gonesh and Vishnu are allegories for Hindus.

Were they?

The Puranas on "Creation of the Universe" wrote:
“In the beginning there was nothing but Brahm. Then, there appeared a golden egg. Everything you see in this universe came out of that egg”

Jeez, that almost sums up modern day big bang theory, or the very beginning born from the theoretical singularity. Or was it the beginning? Have there been many creations? Science is not based on just experimental evidence.

Fri, 2010-12-03 23:55

#106

Brian White

absentia wrote:

This might happen; that might happen; the things that happen might happen because of other things and they then might in turn cause yet other things.... This isn't scientific: this is speculation. Yes, people's intellectual sweaters might become unravelled because of religion or because of science imperfectly understood or because of either or both misunderstood, or for no reason we can readily identify. 'it happens, yeah. And?

If you forbid people to believe what you disagree with, because it might harm them in the long term - or for any other reason - what are you?

Dogmatic self subscribed member of the scientific inquisition?

I know all about those people. I made pulser pumps 2 decades ago. I did not know exactly how or why they worked because the science was obscure. But I knew they worked because I could see them working.

I got called all types of liar and hoaxer and idiot when I put them on the net. Even with video and it being replicated elsewhere occasional people call bullshit on it.

The scientific inquisition are nasty ignorant closed minded f@$k@ers.

They seem to want time to stand still and for people to stop learning.

Tue, 2010-12-07 01:11

#107

trippie

Science is, never ending finding out.

Religion is, never ending dogma.

So the answer is NO. next question please.

Tue, 2010-12-07 07:57

#108

Maysie

Lol, very cute.

Closing for length, and since the question in the OP has been answered, I guess we're done on this topic for good and for ever.

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