Democratic Congresswoman Clings to Life in Arizona ( Part 2)

  Is there somewhere one can sign up to get paid to participate in these types of CIA fake outs?  It appears that they must have tons of cash to throw around considering the numbers that would have to paid off.   Things are a bit tight right now and I could use some extra.

 I wonder what the going pay rate is nowadays?

Step right up and [url=https://www.cia.gov/careers/application-process/instructions.html]apply here[/url] And leave any sense of ethics/morals at the door once accepted.

Lone nut, obsessed with conspiracy theories, loves guns and  american history.

Have you ever read catcher in the rye?

This mind control thing.  Everybody who turns on the tv gets the subliminal messages.

In fact they are coming through your computer right now. Stop with the crazy shit

Only you can see them. (If they are there at all).

Fidel wrote:

Cueball wrote:

Do you understand the difference between "not killing" and "not shooting"?

Which of the shooter(s) in the hotel pantry are you talking about?  There were more than one according to Pilger and other eye witnesses. That means that now we are not talking about a "lone gunman." Now there are at least two gunman, and that's a conspiracy.

The one you said didn't try and kill Kennedy even though Pilger testifies that he pointed his gun at Kennedy and fired. But of course these conspiracy Wizards are so good, the fact that everyone agrees that Sirhan Sirhan was shooting his gun off in the presence of Robert Kennedy proves that he was not actually shooting his gun at Kennedy or trying to kill him, and instead just engaging in some over exuberant and incorrectly timed July 4th celebration with no ill will intended to anyone at all.

If there is a smoking gun the answer must lie elsewhere because "absence of evidence is evidence" that Fidel from Rabble can make up anything he wants. And of course the natural conclusion to be deduced from the lack of evidence, that is evidence, is that even more lack of evidence in the case of the Gifford attack proves that Jared Lee must be innocent, since of course everyone says he was the shooter, and anythign that conclusive must be a lie, since it doesn't give Fidel from Rabble the opportunity to make up whatever story suits his fancy.

Sirhan Sirhan is innocent so therefore, Jared Lee must also be innocent, since both were seen with guns shooting people, more or less. I understand now.

I would not want either of you two on a jury deciding my fate in a murder trial. That's for sure.

Brian White wrote:

There is no certainty in this world.  Lots of countries don't even have Jurys. They found that 12 angry men  make mistakes much too often so they abolished Jurys.

Well they do in the states, and especially in US states where the death penalty is punishment for verdicts of guilty in murder trials and where the jury finds aggravating circumstance to warrant it.

I honestly can't say whether Sirhan Sirhan was part of the conspiracy to murder RFK or not. But I do have considerable doubt that he actually killed RFK. I would have to vote to acquit.

Brian White wrote:

Fidel, what makes you think I was refering to you?

Who were you replying to or directing your questions toward?

Cueball wrote:

Indeed, 99% of all AK-47 used in throughout Asia almost certainly started out life as weapons sold through legitimate means to state authorities, same with those weapons in the hands of the South American drug cartels. I doubt anyone actually bothers making an Ak-47 in Warizistan, since you can pick one up for less than $300 dollars, less than half the cost of used Fender Stratocaster.

Waziristani knockoffs make their way as far South as Sri Lanka. But, again, that's beside the point. At issue is the fact that guns, even more than recreational drugs, are easy to make--anytime, anywhere. And AK-47s, Sig P228 copies, etc. are still cranked out by the thousands by firms like Norinco in China and smuggled in everywhere with imputiny, including the U.S. AK-47s are absolutely illegal (even semi-auto versions) in Canada, and Norinco products have been under an ATF import ban for years in the States, yet they keep finding their way into gangbangers' grubby mitts.

Cueball wrote:

At the end of the day the only solution is for a serious international effort to reduce the production and sale of weapons for the sake of all of us who don't want to have to lug a handgun around everytime we want to make a trip to the local grocery store.

This Cukieresque fantasy belongs in the Kumbaya pile, along with John Lennon's 'Imagine.' If you can't get Iran to shut down its credit card number skimming exchanges, stop the Cayman Islands from accepting cocaine dealers' bank deposits, or stop those clearcut teak loggimg operations in Burma, you aren't going to get countries like China, or Russia to shutter their weapons factories. You might as well beg North Korea to halt its nuke program and, you know, hold elections.

Again, the criminal element happilly steps into voids left by legitimate business. A CNG operation in someone's garage can grind out dozens of Sig P228 copies in a day. Expand this to the scale of, say, a chop-shop, and you've got a real supply. And controlling the precursors is way harder than with drugs: you'd have to screen and register every piece of flatbar, every pound of lead...you get the idea. And arms producers have absolutely no qualms about selling their products to anybody with the cash, any more than they do about selling drugs. Forget trying to stop random crazies like Loughners, Gharbis, or Gills from getting ahold of weapons, any more than drug dealers and terrorists.

And this "we have to limit free speech" stuff is getting tired. This wacko claimed he was inspired by Karl Marx--an author who one can assume appears on the bookshelves of at least a few people in this group. Should we censor Marx? The Communist Manifesto is violently inflammatory material if there ever was such a thing. There have been threads on Rabble, uncensored by moderators, which have advocated violent revolution. This is not only 'inflammatory,' but also completely illegal:

http://eyecrazy.blogspot.com/2010/11/idiots-at-rabbleca-contemplate-whet...

You can bet the RCMP, Rabble's ISP, etc. have been notified, if conservative bloggers have taken notice. This is actually serious enough that charges could get laid, and ISP records subpoenaed. When I read that, I was amazed the Rabble moderators let stuff like that be posted.

Some Democrats and the media, along with Sheriff Dupnik, are trying to score cheap political points, by painting this as some sort of attack on Democratic healthcare policies, or whatever. Actually, the crux of opposition to Obamacare is that purchasing insurance will be mandatory...and if I had to buy a useless private insurance policy under penalty of law, I'd be pretty upset, too. But this isn't likely what motivated the shooter, who it seemed was deeply concerned with subliminal messages on dollar bills, or something. Loughner was a random nut, nothing more. In light of this tragedy, it's really pretty tacky to try to score points, here. And while Dupnik bleats about how "bigoted" the rest of his fellow Arizonians are, Mexican gangsters are regularilly shooting up people over drug deals and human trafficking in the state. This is one of the serious gripes Arizona residents have with the Obama administration, and the rationale for SB 1070.

For the love of cats.

First, alan smithee, this..

Quote:

 If it were up to me,Fred Phelps and his entire 'church' would get shot....And pissed on.

is against babble policy. Say shit like this again and you will  be given a vacation from babble. First and last warning.

Second. THREAD DRIFT. Try to stay on topic next time, willya?

Third, Brian, your post #108 is baiting. Stop it.

Fourth, Fidel, the "angriest juror #8" bullshit is not okay. You also seem a tad overwrought these days and need to dial it back. Stop getting personal.

And others who enjoy baiting Fidel, cut it the hell out. You know who you are.

fencedin, you're gone.

Finally, I'm deeply concerned with the casual use of language such as "nutbar" and "crazy". I'm going to pop into the new thread to express that particular concern. Such language, depicting someone who may or may not have mental health issues, is not okay on babble.