Duvalier is allowed back into Haiti but Aristide is not?

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Duvalier is allowed back into Haiti but Aristide is not?

Why is it that "Baby Doc" Duvalier is allowed to return to Haiti but Jean Bertrand Aristide is not? The international occupation force has stated that Aristide is not sufficiently committed to democratic values and to peaceful means of settling disputes. 

But Baby Doc is?

 

NDPP

Or Bill Clinton?

Frmrsldr

I am seriously wondering if the Pentagon isn't behind "Baby Doc's" return. They could be getting a little uneasy over the instability and chaos persisting in Haiti right about now.

A_J

[URL=http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/18/speculation-of-duvaliers-arrest-mou... - Duvalier taken into custody[/URL]

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Former Haitian dictator Jean-Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier was taken into custody Tuesday and transported to a courthouse where a hearing will determine whether he will be arrested

Fidel

He's probably just returning to the scene of the crime as criminals sometimes do. Apparently disgraced US-backed dictators should learn to budget themselves on the enormous wealth they abscond with.

WFPD

Duvalier has been released but is supposedly forbidden from leaving Haiti. You have to wonder about the decision to release him when he is capable of returning to his luxurious sanctuary in France. 

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Duvalier faces corruption, other charges

 

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Former Haitian dictator Jean-Claude Duvalier was charged with corruption, theft and misappropriation of funds on Tuesday, amid accusations he expropriated hundreds of millions of dollars during his 16-year presidency.

The charges must now be investigated by a judge, who will decide whether there is enough evidence to go to trial. That process can take up to three months.

milo204

this is really insane. canada/eu/us block physically aristide's return to haiti but do nothing about a brutal dictator?  probably because the dictator will be a full partner in their "rebuilding" of haiti into an offshore garment manufacturing/low cost labour client state, while aristide would actually try and rebuild with some future beyond that for haitians.

note how the media omits any mention that the leader that might return could be one democratically elected, or that he even exists!

Ripple

Did anyone hear cbc radio's reporting of this on the evening news yesterday?  There was an interview with someone from (I think) Human Rights Watch giving some of the same general comments as above.  The only Haitian they interviewed supported Duvalier.  The reporter then talked about the earthquake, the chaos, the amount of work to be done to rebuild, and the need for a strong leader.  So we're to think that it's foreigner do-gooders interfering, Haitians support this criminal, and he is the one to lead Haiti from ruin.  That's how I heard it, anyway.  It made want to cry.  (I wrote a letter instead.)

Caissa

Are there any other Haitian Ex-President's in exile?

 

Former Haitian president Jean-Bertrand Aristide has served notice that he is ready to return to the country he was exiled from six years ago "at any time" - echoing the sudden return of another ex-president, Jean-Claude (Baby Doc) Duvalier, four days ago.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2011/01/20/haiti-aristide-return.html#ixzz1BaPKl2Bs

NDPP

America says no to Aristide's return..

With Baby Doc Back In Haiti, Aristide Calls Next

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110120/haiti-exiled-jean-bertrand...

"The US State Department reacted to the letter in a series of posts by spokesman PJ Crowley on Twitter. 'This is an important period for Haiti. What it needs is calm, not divisive actions that distract from the task of forming a new government,' said one. The other, 'We do not doubt President Aristide's desire to help the people of Haiti. But today Haiti needs to focus on its future not its past.'"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/jan/17/jean-clau...

"What is certain, is that Baby Doc's return is merely the starkest manifestation yet of a basic political fact; after the interlude of 1990-2004, Haiti has once again become a de facto dictatorship; its affairs are at the mercy of the international community, and this latest so-called democratic election is double speak for a process that effectively ensures the near total disempowerment, exclusion and pacification of the Haitian people."

Maxine Waters Opposes Plot to Control Haiti

http://www.haitiaction.net/News/MW/1_18_11/1_18_11.html

"The plot to control Haiti has gone from the absurd to the ridiculous. I am deeply concerned that the wealthy elite of Haiti, who supported the Duvalier regime in the past, along with the assistance of international agencies, may have encouraged Duvalier to return. It is important that we determine what role US officials played.."

Any similar statements yet from any Canadian politicians?

al-Qa'bong

The CBC radio news announced today that Baby Doc has been charged with crimes against humanity.

I'm shocked, yet pleasantly surprised.  What's the catch?

6079_Smith_W

al-Qa'bong wrote:

The CBC radio news announced today that Baby Doc has been charged with crimes against humanity.

I'm shocked, yet pleasantly surprised.  What's the catch?

 

None of it makes sense, but sometimes these things happen. He may in fact be so arrogant that he figured he could just waltz in there and be welcomed back (and in fact there seem to be plenty willing to do just that). Perhaps he hadn't counted on the long memories of those in Haiti, and in the diaspora.

It sure looks as if he has unknowingly put into his country's hands the opportunity for closure on his regume.

Thank god for the stupidity and  hubris of authoritarian leaders is all I have to say.

NDPP

Duvalier came back after being persuaded that the situation was ripe for him to run for President.

Duvalier Aims For Haiti Presidency

http://www.news24.com/World/News/Duvalier-aims-for-Haiti-presidency-2011...

"We need to shake everything up so that the elections are annulled and new elections are held in which Duvalier can run,' Henry Robert Sterlin, a former Haitian ambassador to France, told AFP. 'Then Bingo, he would be re-elected,' added Sterlin,.."

Duvalier Probed for Crimes Against Humanity

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2011/01/21/haiti-duvalier-baby-doc-departu...

"Haitian human rights lawyer Mario Joseph said Friday the only way to make the charges against Duvalier stick is for members of the Haitian diaspora to file complaints against him. 'We need people to mobilize, not only the Canadian diaspora but progressive Canadian people - to mobilize to judge Duvalier, Joseph said.."

It would seem that the time is ripe for Aristide's return also - the refusal of the US/Haitian authorities to grant him a passport is a non-starter since he is already a Haitian citizen and Baby Docs was expired also . Obviously the situation is highly volatile. Here's more:

A Class Analysis of Baby Doc: Mothballed Playboy-Dictator Recalled to Service (English Section)

http://www.haiti-liberte.com/

"The big question Haitians are asking is: Who is behind Jean Claude 'Baby-Doc' Duvalier's surprise arrival in Haiti was an expired Haitian passport on January 16 aboard an Air France flight from Paris? 'I have come here to see how I can help my country' he announced, stepping off the plane. Yeah right. It is inconceivable that Baby Doc, 59 would return to the country where there are outstanding criminal proceedings against him without knowing that some powerful foreigners have his back.."

or suckering him into thinking they did...

Fidel

Could well be a sucker job. The elite in Haiti and their Americano friends might sacrifice one of their own in a feeble attempt to look good and create a glint of legitimacy for themselves in the eyes of the people theyve crooked and robbed and brutalized for many years.

Lachine Scot

What does it mean that he is being probed and investigated?

I find it frustrating that the media has repeatedly reported that he has been arrested on various things but in the fine print or later explorations it turns out that he was just brought in for questioning, that he is being "probed" and that they are looking into this and that...

NDPP

Haiti Ex Ruler Calls Haitians to Unite

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/161338.html

"Former Haitian President Jean-Claude Duvalier ahs invited the people of Haiti to take part in what he calls the country's rebirth, after acknowledging the victims of his former government.."

 

ElizaQ ElizaQ's picture

Former US Lawmaker Assisting Duvalier

 

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A former U.S. congressman was among a group of American attorneys accompanying former Haitian dictator Jean-Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier as he spoke in the country's capital Friday.

Former Republican Congressman Bob Barr said he is not serving as Duvalier's attorney, but is in Port-au-Prince to consult, assist and be Duvalier's voice to the international community.

Barr represented Georgia's 7th District in the U. S. House of Representatives from 1995 to 2003, and was the Libertarian Party's presidential nominee in 2008. He currently practices law and runs a consulting firm based in Atlanta.

"We have been asked by the former president and his family to assist him in his efforts," Barr told reporters in Port-au-Prince.

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Barr "will be representing" Duvalier "in bringing his message of hope to the world," the former Republican congressman's website says.

"I also am reminded of others who have risen from the ashes," Barr told reporters Friday. "The city of Atlanta is the Phoenix city. The people of Haiti, likewise, will rise from the problems created by last year's earthquake and emerge stronger and better than before. That I know is Mr. Duvalier's deep wish and something that he knows in his heart."

 

Barf....

Frmrsldr

Hmmm.... I wonder what Mssrs. Barr and Duvalier's real gameplans for Haiti are. My guess is they're probably being assisted and taking orders from the Pentagon.

Caissa

Haiti's government-backed candidate, Jude Celestin, has pulled out of the election race after a nearly two-month power struggle.

The co-ordinator of the ruling Unity party confirmed the move on Wednesday. That opens the door for a second-round runoff between former first lady Mirlande Manigat and popular singer Michel Martelly.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2011/01/26/haiti-celestin-election.html#ixzz1CFEELPhQ

NDPP

Reliving Duvalier; Waiting for Aristide - by Laura Flynn

http://www.counterpunch.org/flynn01272011.html

"For the veterans of this struggle to have to watch Jean-Claude Duvalier return a free man to the scene of his crimes now -- on the heels of the one-year anniversary of the earthquake, after losing 300,000 countrymen; while a cholera epidemic rages, having already taken 4,000 lives; while a UN military mission occupies the country, at a cost of over $500 million a year, while the UN cannot even raise a third of that to fight the cholera that its troops brought to the country in the first place;

while more than a million people live in the streets of Port-au-Prince under nothing more than shredded tarps, after an 'election' that wa an insult to democracy, (excluding Fanmi Lavalas Haiti's largest political party) drawing less than 25 percent of eligible voters and riddled with fraud and irregularities even for the limited voting that did take place;

and while Haiti's twice democratically-elected former President, Jean Bertrand Aristide, is in forced exile in South Africa -- under these circumstances watching Duvalier return was excruciating. The presence of Jodel Chamberlain, the founder of the notorious death squad FRAPH, which terrorized Haiti from 1991-1924 at Duvalier's side as he went to court was flat-out terrifying. The traumatic symbolism of Duvalier's return at Haiti's weakest hours, is an insult to the dead and an assault on the living..."

 

NDPP

Haiti Allows Ex-President's Return

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2011/02/2011217025580425.html

"Jean Bertrand Aristide, who was Haiti's first democratically elected leader, has been in exile for seven years..."

NDPP

On My Return to Haiti

http://www.zcommunications.org/on-my-return-to-haiti-by-jean-bertrand-ar...

"A profit driven recovery plan, devised and carried out by outsiders, cannot reconstruct my country. I will return to Haiti, to the field I know best and love: education. We can only agree with the words of the great Nelson Mandela, that indeed education is a powerful weapon for changing the world.."

NDPP

Haiti 'Gives Ex-President Aristide New Passport'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12388715

"The Haitian government says it has issued former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide with a passport, opening the way for his possible return..'

Enduro Man Enduro Man's picture

I couldn't help notice that when Baby Doc returned he looked exactly like a zombie.  His movements and facial expression was that of a man heavily drugged.  This could not have escaped the notice of Haitians either. 

It was a frightening scene to see a man who murdered thousands shuffling about with a pereptually dazed look on his face as if the High Priest (Papa Doc himself) was commanding him from beyond the grave.

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NDPP

Given Canada's demonstrated complicity in supporting Duvalier's regime and hostility to Aristide, it is hardly an honest broker to be solicited to handle such an important case for Haiti. Similarly, the cited examples of Yugoslavia and Rwanda prosecutions were both fixed -game, imperial kangaroo courts as well. I note the comments appended are as racist and rank as ever on CBC online.

NDPP

Democracy Now: Amy Goodman Reports from South Africa on Aristide's Planned Return Trip to Haiti After 7 Years in Exile:

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/3/16/amy_goodman_reports_from_south_africa

"Former Haitian President Jean Bertrand Aristide has decided to return to Haiti this week ahead of Sunday's presidential runoff elections."

Cholera to Affect Nearly 1 Million Haitians

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/170247.html

"A recent report says that nearly 1 million people in Haiti may contract cholera in 2011, a figure now twice the number estimated by the UN."

who brought the cholera to Haiti in the first place

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

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A White House spokesman says President Obama has personally weighed in on the apparently imminent return from exile of former Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

White House National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor says Obama recently called the president of South Africa, where Aristide has been in exile since he was ousted in a rebellion in 2004.

Vietor told The Associated Press on Thursday that Obama told South African President Jacob Zuma about "deep concerns" the U.S. has over Aristide's plans to return just before Haiti's presidential election Sunday. He says the U.S. believes Aristide's return could be destabilizing to the fragile country. - CP March 17, 2011

 

[b]The U.S. is desperate to keep Aristide out until after the phony election is completed.[/b]

 

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As Wikileaks cables reveal, the US Department of State has been intensely lobbying Brazil to use its influence in South Africa, where Aristide resides in exile, to prevent his departure. Unfortunately, the strong independent streak Lula exhibited in other areas of foreign policy didn't extend to Haiti, where Brazil has largely supported efforts by the "international community," led by the US, Canada and France, to place the island country in receivership after having drove Aristide out in 2004.

[url=http://www.thenation.com/blog/159292/deliberately-cynically-and-steadfas..., Cynically and Steadfastly: Obama Heads South as Aristide Moves North?[/url]

 

Unionist

Media say Aristide is expected to land in less than two hours.

Caissa

Michel Martelly, a singer and entertainer, may have triumphed in Haiti's presidential elections, according to recently released partial results.

Tally sheets read out on local media on Monday, showed Martelly was well ahead of his rival, former first lady Mirlande Manigat, in key urban areas including Petionville and the Cite Soleil slum in the capital Port-au-Prince.

Even before voting stations closed on Sunday, Martelly supporters were triumphantly taking to the streets, but there has been no claim of victory from the candidate and final results are not expected until April 16.

Al Jazeera's Sebastian Walker, reporting from Port-au-Prince, said that martelly supporters had begun celebrating what they saw as a victory for the candidate

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2011/03/2011321163040122901.html

NDPP

Long Night's Journey Into Day: Interview with Former Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide (vid)

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/3/22/long_nights_journey_into_day_democ...

NDPP

BAR: The Election Charade Masks US War Against Haiti

http://blackagendareport.com/content/election-charade-masks-us-war-again...

"The farcical Us imposed elections have yielded grotesque results: The most popular person in Haiti, Aristide and his supporters are treated as political outlaws, while the presidency is guaranteed to go to an associate of the most hated man in Haiti, 'Baby Doc' Duvalier.."

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

[url=http://www.canadahaitiaction.ca/content/jean-bertrand-aristides-triumpha... account of Aristide's triumphant return[/url]

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When Aristide's plane landed, Radio Télé Ginen was the only television station that showed up. All of the press boycotted the arrival, even though everybody knew he was returning. It was streaming live on Democracy Now!--Amy Goodman was sending pictures out from the plane. But most of the radio here owned by the bourgeoisie was not on hand.

The international press was there in force, though, and it was a frantic scramble. After Aristide arrived, as many of you have seen already, he gave a speech. It was, I would say, better than many had hoped, because he spoke clearly, and what he said was like a match to a fuse.

He said, "Exclusion is the problem, inclusion is the solution." He was talking not just about political the exclusion of his party Fanmi Lavalas from the elections that are going to take place tomorrow. He also meant social exclusion--the fact that the people, living in this camp, living in the slums around here, working in these factories, working and living and in many cases dying because of the poor conditions, are excluded from the riches that exist in this country.

He did not only mean the agricultural richness that Haiti once produced in rice, sugar, coffee and other crops. He also meant the exclusion from benefiting from the mineral wealth that is being discovered here. He spoke about the exclusion from newly found uranium, oil, gold, silver, marble, calcium carbonate and other resources. Those are some of interests that drive these rampaging foreign corporations, which are trying to seize control of the state apparatus now through the election.

But let's turn back to the day itself. The people were waiting outside the gates of the airport. Security inside the airport was extremely tight. We were shuttled by buses out to where the plane flew in. It flew in about 20 minutes early so the press was taken somewhat unaware, but immediately, all the barricades and fences were swept away by the press, which just ran up to the plane. Aristide descended into a pool of press. And on leaving the airport, he descended into an ocean of people.

It was quite extraordinary. It was beyond joyous--I would almost call it rapturous. Margaret Prescott of Women's Strike for Peace called it a "tsunami of love." People jogged alongside Aristide's motorcade as it brought him back to his home in Tabarre, about two or three miles from the airport.

When we arrived at the home, the plan, I think, was that the motorcade would enter, and the people would stay outside, but that's not what happened. An ocean of people surged into the compound.

The Aristides are living there, but they don't have electricity, they don't have Internet, they don't have telephones, they don't have water. They're camping out in the shell of their former home, which was torn apart by the rebels that came, looted and broke whatever they could back in 2004. But it has been painted and repaired. This crowd, this ocean of people, carried the Aristide delegation into the compound. People were climbing up trees and walls to get a glimpse of Aristide. They were on top of the house. They were dancing, they were singing, they were yelling. It was bedlam. It was pandemonium.

The press was bobbing around, like little floats in this ocean, with their microphones and cameras, trying to capture it, but it was like trying to capture a waterfall with a teaspoon. It was just extraordinary.

Finally, after about five or six hours, people started to fade away, and eventually, some police came in and cleared the yard. Inside the house, a number of Lavalas supporters gathered from around the country and around the U.S. I should also say around the world, because CLR James' widow Selma James was there. She runs an organization in London called "Women's Crossroads." There was Pierre LaBossiere from the Haiti Action Committee, Margaret Prescott from Women Strike for Peace, Amy Goodman and Sharif Abdel Kouddous from Democracy Now!

It was a very relaxed, very happy occasion. It was so emotional to watch. Tears were streaming down cheeks of Aristide and his family as they came into their home. You have to imagine what it was like for his two daughters. They have essentially grown up in South African. Cristina, the oldest, was seven years old when the coup happened. Between the ages of 7 and 14, she really didn't know about her father and what a symbol he was in Haiti--somewhat like the Haitian Nelson Mandela. So she was learning now as a teenager about her father's significance. It was touching to watch the emotion and pride on her face, and that of her sister Mikaela.

All in all, I can say that the return has set the stage for a political confrontation. The Lavalas movement burst onto the scene 20 years ago and essentially seized power from the Duvalierists and neo-Duvalierists in 1990. Now we see a similar confrontation emerging decades later, but the roles are reversed. It's Lavalas--or what I would call the neo-Lavalas, the bourgeoisified Lavalas--which is in power. This is what the Duvalierists are now challenging, above all, through the candidacy of Michel Martelly.

See also [url=http://rabble.ca/columnists/2011/03/aristide-returns-haiti-after-seven-y... Goodman's report[/url]