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Centrist Party of Canada

Hi all of you politics lovers. I am a person who is currently trying to create a new party called the Centrist Party of Canada. What this party hopes to accomplish is to be a moderate conservative party that is between the Liberals and the Conservatives to offer a true alternative and not just a party like the NDP, Greens and the Bloc Quebecois. This party wants to mainly be red tory and blue liberal in terms of ideology and this means be want to be liberal conservative and moderate conservative.

What being moderate and liberal conservative means to us is we want to be a successor type party to the old Progressive Conservative party of Canada. We believe there is a huge niche for us since we think a party that is socially progressive and very fiscally conservative is wanted in today's society. We want to be about protecting health care and education and making them essential services, being about moderate tax cuts such tax cuts for small business since we believe that small business is the engine of our economy. We believe also that income tax cuts will help the burden of crushing debt on the middle class. We believe that action must be done on poverty in terms of crime since we are for an all-of-the-above approach to tackling crime. We think our party can be popular across the country. We are for mandatory minimum, we are rehabilitation programs and education programs to ensure that those who have to change are given the tools to change and we want educational programs for the most vulnerable so they don't enter a life of crime. This way we concentrate on crime, prevention and poverty and in this fashion we tackle all the areas that could cause crime. We think poverty must be done if it is done in a way that takes our debt and deficit into consideration.

We want to be a compassionate conservative party which balances standing up for a strong economy, considering our debt and deficit and balancing social progress. In this fashion we think we have what it takes to make sure our society is strong as whole and we will take all areas into consideration. We also think by using this approach we truly are following the traditions of the old Progressive Conservative party.

A lot of people say that having a sixth party is not needed since we have so many choices but there are so many people out there who don't understand that if we do not have another moderate option then voter intention will just continue to get lower. We think we cannot wait for that moment. We must act now and embrace as many options as possible. Some people tell me that the Green party is following the traditions of the Progressive Conservative party and there are others who say they are a left wing party. After reading their platform I have come to the conclusion that they are a centrist party economically but many people will just assume they are mostly environmentalist and since they feel they are like that they will just dismiss the other policies and assume they are left wing. That is why another party is needed since people have to be told what exactly the party stands for and say where exactly in the spectrum the party.

Now, I will tell you where the party stands in the political spectrum. The old Progressive Conservative party and the British Tory party are both centre to centre-right. We feel that if we concentrated on that particular area mostly we could expect a lot of growth as a party. We think that for us to be mostly centrist to centre-right we can be the next big party and we are having many policies which lie between the two parties so if people lose faith in one of the two major parties then they do not have to go to any other party except us and we can let the people know that as a party we want to follow the traditions of Sir John A. MacDonald and the traditions of red toryism and blue liberalism. That is what we want to build as a party.

To find out information about the party we have a link that shows you exactly where we stand on the issues. The site is here for the issues: http://centristparty.piczo.com/issues?cr=5 if you want to find out more about the party.

Lastly, I think I have said all I want to say for now but I look forward to more comments about the party after you reply to this message I have left about this topic. The final thing I would like to say regarding the party is the party wants to be about middle grounds and compromise on pretty much all the issues and we need to set an example to the Canadian people and as the party of Sir John A. MacDonald and true toryism in the red tory sense we need to show Canadians that even though we disagree on something as little as ideology we can get along together because the most important thing as a society is to ensure our democracy is strong. Also, as a party we will always stand up for constituents and parliamentary democracy and we will always do everything possible to increase voter turnout and make sure democracy prevails in the end.

ottawaobserver

Good luck. I hope you and the Progressive Canadian Party and the United Party all peel off votes from both the Conservatives and Liberals, so we can elect a progressive social democratic government in Canada.

centristparty

No the party I wish to create will be bigger than those parties since the United Party and the Progressive Canadian party don't fall currently between the two major parties since the Liberals have all but taken over the old version of that party and a mixture between the two major parties and a new Progressive Conservative party with a new name the Centrist Party of Canada can and will be created. I have talked to so many people and they say a lot of good things about the party. This party would be liberal conservative which means a combination of those ideologies and that falls between the two parties. I think that is wanted in today's society which is a strong third moderate party.

centristparty

To see my site ottawaobserver just go to the one that you saw above which shows the link and then you can see the issues about where we stand and then all will be good. All I want to do is find out from others where Canadians stand on the idea of having a third party which wants to be precisely between the two major parties and follow in the tradition of the old Progressive Conservative party but the Progressive Canadian party is beligerant and they would never admit they have any problems and the United party is a terrible name and offer no real alternative. Everything around this party has been expressed by others as being a good name with good policies and seems to get a lot of favour by those I have talked to.

centristparty

The site is: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=538971775#!/group.php?gid=34708647457

if you wish to see our page on facebook about the Centrist Party of Canada.

Maysie Maysie's picture

centrist party wrote:
 This party wants to mainly be red tory and blue liberal in terms of ideology and this means be want to be liberal conservative and moderate conservative.

You're in the wrong place, dude. We're way too pink-pinko-left to take your political views seriously. 

I've alerted the moderators. Wink

Slumberjack

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Layton-Lovers to Harper-Harpies. Talk about it here.

Does this mean the stated allowable spectrum of this forum is no longer applicable?  Cause if you're throwin da bums out on sight, I'm going to start dancing a jig.

Maysie Maysie's picture

Slumberjack wrote:
 I'm going to start dancing a jig

Damn it centristparty! Why didn't you join babble 3 days ago?

Caissa

How can we take someone serious who capitalizes the d in Macdonald?

MegB

centristparty wrote:

The site is: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=538971775#!/group.php?gid=34708647457

if you wish to see our page on facebook about the Centrist Party of Canada.

 

Centristparty, what you are doing is referred to as spamming, and violates our policy. Additionally, you've basically tried to take out an ad for your party in this forum, another no-no. I'm going to close your duplicate thread, and keep an eye on what's happening in this one.

As a left-wing political forum, your choice of babble to promote your right-wing party is highly suspect.  Be warned, you're a heartbeat away from leaving this board for good.

 

Slumberjack

Rebecca West wrote:
  Centristparty, what you are doing is referred to as spamming, and violates our policy. Additionally, you've basically tried to take out an ad for your party in this forum, another no-no. I'm going to close your duplicate thread, and keep an eye on what's happening in this one.  As a left-wing political forum, your choice of babble to promote your right-wing party is highly suspect.  Be warned, you're a heartbeat away from leaving this board for good. 

What about the 'Harper Harpies' shingle on this forum.  It appears as an invitation to discuss 'progressive' politics along a spectrum from Layton to Harper.  You advertise this as a place to discuss anything up to and including Harper.  Party advertising is a "no-no?"  Every polling thread ever created here has essentially been one continuous ad for the NDP party.  Before your start making it up as you go along, a few policy revisions could stand a little examination.  Specificially, which political parties are banned from advertising here, and about that harpies shingle.  This is not to say that I support harpie style discussions from that point of view.  There needs to be consistency imv.

KenS

Maybe buddy will have seen the obvious, and decided of his own accord to go away massively unwanted.

Thes points have their own legs:

Slumberjack wrote:

You advertise this as a place to discuss anything up to and including Harper.  Party advertising is a "no-no?"  Every polling thread ever created here has essentially been one continuous ad for the NDP party.  Before your start making it up as you go along, a few policy revisions could stand a little examination.  Specificially, which political parties are banned from advertising here, and about that harpies shingle.  This is not to say that I support harpie style discussions from that point of view.  There needs to be consistency imv.

The polling threads are also an ad for people to dump on the NDP. That goes in waves, there happens to be not much now.

Strictly speaking you are right about the shingle hung out. Was it meant to be taken so literaly? But even if it was not meant, maybe it is an invitation to lost souls that no one thinks belongs here. If so, it doent happen often.

Maysie Maysie's picture

Rebecca, ignore Slumberjack. He never quotes babble policy.

This means the hazing has begun.

Cool

Caissa

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centristparty

The truth is I accidently hit post forum topic twice and that is why I ended up with the Centrist Party forum topic twice. I wanted all the people who would comment on these topics to ignore the higher of the two and then use just one.

Sorry for causing conflicts and making it seem as if I wanted to spam but I did not do it deliberately.

centristparty

I never meant to advertise if that is what you people think I did but I wanted to however see what the reaction was to a new political party that is between the Liberals and Conservatives. On other forums I have seen people proposing parties left of the NDP and even parties to the right of the Conservatives and even some between the NDP and Liberals and I got to say I have taken part in those discussions.

centristparty

I never knew this was a left wing forum but it is a party that accepts people who are conservative liberals and liberal minded conservatives so we are centrist to centre-right and our social policy is close to the liberals so i would hardly describe that as someone who could violate policy anyways i saw when i entered a party between layton and harper yup i think i fall in there.

centristparty

@Doug in the other forum since I want to use this forum - The liberals refer to themselves as the big red tent which means they want to be from rightist social democrats like Thomas Mulcair to red tories like Joe Clark but people in the party that I am a part of want the party to be from purple liberals to purple tories which means it could be people like your average every day moderate liberal to your moderate every day conservative so that is where we are. therefore we think we could get a huge base of support with those areas in the spectrum. the liberals are centre to centre-left and we want to be centre to centre-right.

centristparty

@Slumberjack - Well our party wants to be known as the party of middle grounds and compromise so we want to bring more people back to our democracy and back to voting who says the only way to get people to vote is to have a charismatic liberal who cares about inspiring in fact in Europe their conservative parties are like the one I am proposing now which are communitarian conservative parties which are moderate and want to find the balance to attract conservatives and progressives under one tent.

Arthur Cramer Arthur Cramer's picture

@centristparty:

You know this is a left wing blog,right? Really, why are you here? No one who is a regular to this blog would ever consider anything you are proposing; they go against what we all believe at our centers.

You are certainly entitled to do whatever you want, but really, what do you think you will accomplish here? Have a bit of maturity and accept the fact the ideas you propose are not welcome on this blog, nor embraced in any way.

Arthur Cramer, Winnipeg

centristparty

The red tories who dominated the Progressive Conservative party were people who wanted to unite Canadians and not divide them so to say that all conservatives want to be that way is false. We are one nation conservatives in this party and we want to follow the tradition of the British Tory party which wants to be about middle grounds and compromise and removing partisanship from politics. We even followed the Green party policies on democracy and wanting to have prop rep for the House of Commons and the Senate. That is what we are for and if we follow those strategies then we can succeed and offer a big tent from the centre to centre-right. Remember Obama is a centrist but he is treading right the Americans do not have a true centre to centre-left party like this country they have two parties which are centre-right ideologically since their country has lost all serious voter intention and we need to avoid this and that is why we in this party propose this party.

centristparty

@acramer - I just want to know what people think of the idea as a party to bring civility back to politics and be a party from the centre to centre-right. I want to know how people would genuinely feel about a party like this.

I thought no political ideology dominated these blogs and I fall between Harper and Layton ideologically so what does it matter!

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

centristparty, if you're forming a "moderate conservative" party, then it isn't centrist.  It's right of centre, and considerably so if it's right of the Liberal Party.  You can call it a centrist party, but it won't make it so.

centristparty

what are you talking about the red tory side of the party is extremely close to the liberals it is practically almost the same party. Remember we fall between layton and harper as a party so I cannot be punished remember I don't like Harper I want to make a party which is between them for civility so what is the problem. The red tory side of the old PC party was centrist so I think I know what I am talking about.

centristparty

The British Tory party is mainly head by people who are centrists but their other side which is neoliberal and slightly right of centre has no real power so what is the problem I want a similar party.

centristparty

Also nothing wrong with wanting to bridge the gap between Liberals and Conservatives some might call me a hero.

KenS

Some. But absolutely no one around here.

RosaL

Maybe you should be talking to David Orchard. For many reasons.

KenS

And while it is not my place to say.... even someone with different politics than people around here who thought you a hero- it would be evidence they need a life.

[And thats not a perspective anything to do with polictical orientation.]

KenS

Come to think of it...

...you wouldn't be David Orchard? Maybe in drag? Eh?

centristparty

@RosaL - Well I know Sinclair Stevens and a lot of old PCers since I was part of the Progressive Canadian party. I left in 2009

since the party kept getting weaker. The site is here: http://progressivecanadian.ca/. I feel the way to establish the party is to get people

from the Conservatives, old PCers, Liberals, Greens and that is how to build a successful party by uniting pragmatic and moderate

conservatives. That is how to build a strong coalition. I watched the videos and he said the takeover or merger between the Canadian Alliance

and the Progressive Conservative party was illegal and we won the case but we did not get "Conservative" back in the Progressive Canadian

party which means Harper does not play by the rules.

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

centristparty wrote:

The British Tory party is mainly head by people who are centrists but their other side which is neoliberal and slightly right of centre has no real power so what is the problem I want a similar party.

Well, that's nice.  We all want things.  Not that that generally matters in the big picture.

The first problem is that you're starting on a basis of false advertising - what you are describing isn't centrist, it's right-wing.  The second problem is that you've come to the wrong place - none of us are interested in taking part in forming another right-wing party (or for most people here, a centrist party - which yours wouldn't be). 

But hey, good luck.  The more you can split the vote on the right, the happier we'll all be.  All the best in your endeavour!

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

centristparty wrote:

Also nothing wrong with wanting to bridge the gap between Liberals and Conservatives some might call me a hero.

Others might call you a cuckoo-bird.  Your point?

Papal Bull

centristparty.

 

So, you're right of the liberals and slightly more purple than the Tories.

 

So, uh. Policies? What are your policies like? What groundwork and organization have you done?

 

Because I too have a party that is gaining ground The Popular Front For The Liberation Of Smokers (Markist-Absurdist). We're mostly a Meowist left of the up formation. Perhaps we could merge and form some sort of super joke?

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Canada already has a centrist party..They're called the Liberals.

Centrist politics always make me laugh...Sitting on the fence means doing nothing....Which is basically the Liberal platform of the last 20 something years.

MegB

centristparty wrote:

I never knew this was a left wing forum but it is a party that accepts people who are conservative liberals and liberal minded conservatives so we are centrist to centre-right and our social policy is close to the liberals so i would hardly describe that as someone who could violate policy anyways i saw when i entered a party between layton and harper yup i think i fall in there.

Bringing forward the idea and movement to form a right-centre political party that falls between the current Harper/Reform conservatives and the Liberal party is certainly something you can do here on babble, especially when it sparks lively debate.  When we censure such threads or posts, it's mainly because we have dealt with many members who would use this forum as a venue for spreading discontent and malice for its own sake.  Surely you can understand why posting your potential party's platform in a venue as left-wing and progressive as rabble, might be construed as such.

Still, when you post duplicate threads with links to a site advocating your party, product, personal or religious beliefs, it's looked upon as spam. That it may be accidental is immaterial.  We get a huge volumn of spam here, and moderators don't have time to do an indepth analysis of each potential spammer.

Please keep in mind that, while we encourage diversity and do not especially expect all babblers to "tow the party line" so to speak, many or most of us have spent a good chunk of our lives fighting for social justice, human rights, and progressive politics.  We don't need to refight our battles, because our time is better spent debating for the progressive advancement of our mutual goals and ideals.

That said, please let babble policy be your guide, and continue to post here within our guidelines.

Thanks for your anticipated understanding.

 

 

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

My final 2 cents.

The Liberals promised to kill the GST and NAFTA back in 1993...They did nothing.

The Liberals promised to decriminalize marijuana after a Senate committee (for the THIRD time since 1972) recommended it..The Liberals did nothing.

The Reform Party has been in power since 2006,running the government in an undemocratic and sociopathic fashion and the Liberals have done nothing.

Kim Campbell ran an attack ad back in '93 making fun of Chretien's appearance...He paid her back by giving her a cushy job in Los Angeles.

Chretien dismissed protesters who were systematically attacked by the RCMP without provocation with FIRE EXTINGUISHERS filled with pepper spray and cotton swabs to rub pepper spray in their eyes with the famous quip, 'To me,pepper is something I put on my plate'

Centrist parties are generally cowards that turtle anytime they face an opposition...Case in point,the hopelessly Centrist Barack Obama.

And when a Centrist government is forced to choose a side, 99.9999% of the time they fall feet first into the Right.

So Centrist governments do nothing and are traditionally enamoured with the Right and terrified of the Left.

Canada does not need another Centrist or right wing party...We'd sooner be better off with another hole in our heads.

Fidel

alan smithee wrote:
The Liberals promised to kill the GST and NAFTA back in 1993...They did nothing.

The Liberals promises to renegotiate NAFTA, the expanded FTA drafted up by a Mulroney regime on its last legs by 1992.

They were elected in 1993, and the Liberals did more than nothing. They signed NAFTA "as is" in 1994. And they flip-flopped on GST, too. The American negotiator "Carrot Top" and dozens of Washington lawyers took our stooges in Ottawa for a big ride with the stupidest trade deal in the history of the planet.

milo204

Fellow babblers, regardless of what you think of this persons ideas or new party can we stop the "what are YOU doing here?" crap and engage in a discussion?  

This is why the our ideas here never get anywhere.  As soon as someone we don't agree with engages us, we tell them to piss off rather than engage in a substantive discussion of ideas.  telling this person "your ideas are not welcome here" sounds very exclusionary and is almost mocking, in my opinion.

Also, the idea of "conservatism" isn't that foreign to the left, and in fact the old style conservatism has much in common with the left.  In fact, ask Chomsky.  He even compares his ideas to those of early  US conservatives, and actually says his views are more reflective of real conservatism than the extremists in washington.

milo204

@centristparty

thanks for the detailed reply.  Have to admit, big problems with the union policy, since you haven't mentioned any opposition to the reverse, corporate unions like the CCCE and other lobbying organizations.  Why shouldn't workers organize and defend their interests (and in this age, the attack on workers basic rights) as the richest and most powerful corporations?  Even with unions, it's a pretty modest counterpoint, especially in the private sector.  Seems like a good example of a conservative principle, the right to organize to influence things that affect you in a major way, which employment certainly qualifies. 

Also, the tax policy seems a bit jumbled.  I get the idea, just don't see much care in the implementation.  If you lower taxes when things are good (like in the platform) AND lower them when things are bad, pretty soon we have too little tax revenue.  I think a tax break would be better applies by creating more brackets or something to that effect, rebates for low income people etc.  Why not create a higher exemption in bad times, and finally get around to creating proper brackets at the top to account for the bigger incomes of the richest canadians?

And on the website, what do you mean about the domain?  can't you just buy a domain name like anyone else?  i was referring more to the layout, unless you mean you're putting off a proper design/layout until you get the proper domain name?  Why not get the ball rolling an improve the site and just move it to the new domain?

 

Sean in Ottawa

Milo has a fair point

So Centrist can you identify where the party would differ philosophically from both the Cons and the Liberals because I have trouble seeing enough daylight between the two for a party to exist.

And by this question-- I am asking what change from those parties could you do that a leadership change within either of them would not. I am able to see differences in shades of right to left in both of those parties by leadership changes-- Look at Dion to Ignatieff. I have not heard a difference greater than that from you. In fact the most left the cons could go is likely more left than the most rightwing the Liberals could go. Both parties have a range. I am having some difficulty imagining what he new party brings other than another place for a competing leader to find space.

psmith

milo204 wrote:

Fellow babblers, regardless of what you think of this persons ideas or new party can we stop the "what are YOU doing here?" crap and engage in a discussion?  

This is why the our ideas here never get anywhere.  As soon as someone we don't agree with engages us, we tell them to piss off rather than engage in a substantive discussion of ideas.  telling this person "your ideas are not welcome here" sounds very exclusionary and is almost mocking, in my opinion.

 

Milo, Milo, Milo. What are you doing? Saying something entirely reasonable like that won't make you any friends. It even sounds like you're urging understanding and tolerance. Not accpetable in groupthink forums, especially when the initiative being introduced has foreign ideas in it.

As noted, the Moderator has been advised to the introduction of foreign ideals and he's been given a warning. His attempts to discuss a new political party has already been lablelled as "spamming" and as you know we won't tolerate that kind of behaviour around here. He's been duly dumped on by the party faithful already, and it will only be a matter of time before he's run out of town. We'll soon be able to get back to our 15% level of support nationally and that's just the way we like it, having yet again narrowly avoided any chance at broadening our base. Whew, close one!

Sp please don't rock the boat.

KenS

Its not a question of tolerance.

Fail to get the point of dude being here. How do you discuss with a bunch of lefties why there is a need for a party between the Conservatives and the Liberals?

[And a different wording of where that 'between' is makes no difference.]

KenS

psmith wrote:

We'll soon be able to get back to our 15% level of support nationally and that's just the way we like it, having yet again narrowly avoided any chance at broadening our base. Whew, close one!

I am trying to think when I've heard you talk about something that would broaden the NDP's support base.

Roscoe

psmith wrote:

milo204 wrote:

Fellow babblers, regardless of what you think of this persons ideas or new party can we stop the "what are YOU doing here?" crap and engage in a discussion?  

This is why the our ideas here never get anywhere.  As soon as someone we don't agree with engages us, we tell them to piss off rather than engage in a substantive discussion of ideas.  telling this person "your ideas are not welcome here" sounds very exclusionary and is almost mocking, in my opinion.

 

Milo, Milo, Milo. What are you doing? Saying something entirely reasonable like that won't make you any friends. It even sounds like you're urging understanding and tolerance. Not accpetable in groupthink forums, especially when the initiative being introduced has foreign ideas in it.

As noted, the Moderator has been advised to the introduction of foreign ideals and he's been given a warning. His attempts to discuss a new political party has already been lablelled as "spamming" and as you know we won't tolerate that kind of behaviour around here. He's been duly dumped on by the party faithful already, and it will only be a matter of time before he's run out of town. We'll soon be able to get back to our 15% level of support nationally and that's just the way we like it, having yet again narrowly avoided any chance at broadening our base. Whew, close one!

Sp please don't rock the boat.

@psmith and milo204. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. It is so sad that any effort to engage the 'party faithful' in any sort of discussion other than 'the Afghan people will win part 365' or 'how big a majority government can the NDP form without help from the center while staying true to leftist principles' is met with hostility and acute discomfort.

The left will never get anywhere except its traditional 15% without engaging the center.

KenS

Pray tell me the connection between engaging the centre and this discussion of a new additional party for the centre.

Roscoe

The discussion of a new party for the center is occuring because the stodgy old line parties refuse to engage anything outside their comfort zones and the voter is refusing to buy in to the status quo.

Jack Layton should run as leader of a centerist party. He is an awesome individual and leader but he is held back by the same, lame party ideology as is presented by the 'party faithful' here. Try as he might, he can't break either the mold (or should I say mould) or 20% for the NDP while enjoying huge personal popularity.

Michael Ignatieff and the Liberals represent nothing other than assuming as entitlement as the 'natural governing party' but they have lost any respect the Canadian people held for the 'brand', such as it was.

Steven Harper contols the governing party in minority. Mostly due to the fact that he is considered a capable administrator by the very voters who loathe his government's secrecy and heavyhandedness.

A new party in the center will not have the ideological baggage of the old parties and be more attractive to disgruntled voters  than either the Liberals or NDP.

Its 2011, not 1960. The NDP has to engage the center or doom itself to irrelevancy. Personally, I don't hold much hope that it will occur and would love to see a new centerist party.

 

psmith

KenS wrote:

Pray tell me the connection between engaging the centre and this discussion of a new additional party for the centre.

 

Whether there is a connection or there isn't: should we make sure the person knows they are unwelcome, and chase them away? Welcome to the NDP Central Politburo mindset, I guess. Your years of insider service have left their mark.

 

KenS wrote:

I am trying to think when I've heard you talk about something that would broaden the NDP's support base.

 

What about this current thread? But this isn't about me, KenS. It's about comments like yours that act to shut out other voices, just because they are different.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Currently in Canada we have 4 political parties in the House of Commons.

The Reform Party which is straight up and far to the right.

The Liberal Party which mostly sits at the center with gusts to the right.

The Bloc which is probably THE centre party in Ottawa

and the NDP who lean to the left but,apparently lean away from the left as a provincial party.

So why...WHY would anyone think we need a new Centrist Party?..Why would we need a new party that would just sit on the fence and provide ZERO alternative?

What the hell would a Centrist party offer to Canadians?..And why would it be any different from what we already have since Centre politics in Canada and the U.S. are parties which immediately fall to the right anytime someone gives them a nudge (See LPC and the American Democrats)

centristparty

Too bad you people on here don't understand the point of this party since I speak a lot of law and order is to give a strong alternative to the Conservatives in Western Canada and Atlantic Canada. Remember the Liberal name is toxic in Alberta and Saskatchewan so by uniting the centre to centre-right we in the party feel we can make sure we have a strong progressive conservative alternative in those regions and eat away Conservative votes. Remember we are progressive-conservatives they in the Conservative party are neoconservatives and we want to show them what true conservatism really is. We also know that Quebec and Atlantic Canada are old bastions of progressive-conservatism therefore we want to get votes away from the Conservatives in Atlantic Canada and Quebec as well as Western Canada. When Joe Clark was leader he proved Harper is out of touch with the need of Atlantic Canadians and if parlay that message Harper will be decimated in Quebec, Alberta, Saskatchewan and the Atlantic provinces and they will have to think about someone else to infiltrate a party to win more votes. We old PCers undertand their strategy and it was all a way to win votes.

We are Progressive Conservatives and we want a pragmatic party in the centre and we feel people will reject the crap conservatism if we are around.

centristparty

Well Sean in Ottawa I would like to answer your question about where we stand but I need to know exactly what you want answered and when we get the pdf ready for the party then you should know exactly where we stand on all the issues and then each of you can be sent something to say where we stand on the issues because not everything is between the Liberals and Conservatives that is most things. Some of the things we got from the Green party like democratic policy and certain environmental policy.

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