Chavez, Ortega, back Gaddafi oppression

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Aristotleded24

Bacchus wrote:
He has? Free and open ones? And not ones where if he didnt like the results like oh say ina referendum, he tried again until he got the results he wanted? Then started banning outlets for the opposition so they have no voice?

Free and fair elections as confirmed by none other than former US President Jimmy Carter.

A_J

Aristotleded24 wrote:

Bacchus wrote:
He has? Free and open ones? And not ones where if he didnt like the results like oh say ina referendum, he tried again until he got the results he wanted? Then started banning outlets for the opposition so they have no voice?

Free and fair elections as confirmed by none other than former US President Jimmy Carter.

The Carter Centre hasn't observed an election in Venezuela since 2006, when its report included this little caveat:

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Due to time and human resource constraints, the Carter Center mission has not produced a comprehensive evaluation of either the electoral process as a whole or of the integrity of the electronic voting system used in Venezuela.

Also, its election observation program, while very good for what it does, is very focused on the technicalities of the voting process - i.e. were the vosts cast, counted and reported properly?  There is no doubt that the results in Venezuela are quite reflective of the votes that are cast; the problem is in the lead-up to elections, when massive state resources - state media, government employees, PDVSA, the military, etc. - are conscripted to campaign on behalf of Chavez, dwarfing whatever resources the opposition might have.  Elections in Venezuela are accurate, but they're not free and fair.

 

But anyway, back to the topic of Libya . . .

MSNBC - Chavez says he won't condemn Libya's Gadhafi

 

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"We must be prudent. We know what our political line is: We don't support invasions, or massacres, or anything like that no matter who does it. A campaign of lies is being spun together regarding Libya," said Chavez, in a televised speech to a crowd of graduates who had just received diplomas from state universities.

"I'm not going to condemn him (Gadhafi)," he said. "I'd be a coward to condemn someone who has been my friend."

The U.S. government is behind the campaign to remove Gadhafi, he added.

"The United States has already said it's ready to invade Libya, don't you see? And almost all the countries of Europe are condemning Libya ... What do they want. They are rubbing their hands together. Oil is what's important to them," he said.

Chavez noted that numerous countries have condemned Gadhafi for cracking down on Libyans who have risen up against him.

"Maybe they have information that we don't have," he said.

 

Ghislaine

Maybe someone could be so kind to email Chavez some of that information on Gadhafi's atrocities?

NDPP

It could be, that it is not so much approval of Gadhafi's atrocities as an awareness of malevolent Western geopolitics, that informs these alignments. Clearly the imperialist jackals are now preparing to 'liberate' Libya from not only Gadhafi, but from its oil resources as well..

Bec.De.Corbin Bec.De.Corbin's picture

As I've said before, it really doesn't matter what Chavez or anybody else says, they are not keeping Gadhaffi in power.

Anyways some good news: Gadaffi forces were defeated in a major battle last night to retake Zawiya, a city west of Tripoli. This was a major fight that was building up for a few days involving tanks and other armored vehicles being used on both sides. This battle might be the death nail for Gadaffi. One key thing to note was the air force didn't show up to help the pro Gadaffi forces. This was the one fight I was thinking NATO and the west was going to use as an excuse to get their foot into Libya if it went badly for the anti Gadaffi forces. Well the anti Gadaffi forces won the fight so there is now no need for that.

Rebels win major battle

While we were in here cat fighting over who said what or who belongs where the people of Libya just won the most decisive battle of this revolution so far.

 

MegB

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