disgusted with NHL

Everybody needs to stop hyperventalating. Now.

The league made the right call. There is no evidence, none, that Chara had any intention or even awareness the fact he was running Paciorretty into the stanchon. The photo that RevolutionPlease posted is incredibly inconvienent to Chara. Looking at the video, its pretty clear the glove never came off the shoulder. 

Furthermore, Chara is not an Avery, Bertuzzi or Simon (and if you don't know those three names, go away now please. You're clearly too ignorant on hockey to discuss this). In 14 years of hockey, and over 850 games, he has never been suspended by the league. He has never pulled an action that has been seen as so questionable he might get suspended by the league. He is not a player that would do this. 

So with the lie directly thrown at Chara out of the way, let's get to the other one: The NHL is more violent today, than it was in yesteryears.

Wrong. The NHL was incredibly more violent back in the 70's than it was today, and more violent during the Original Six era than it was during the 70's. 

1925 - Billy Coutu bodyslams Eddie Shore, amputating Shore's ear. Worth pointing out these two were teammates who were playing together in practice at the time. 

1927 - Billy Coutu assaults one referee, tackles another, and starts a bench clearing brawl under the orders of coach Art Ross. Worth pointing out said coach has a trophy named after him.

1932 - Shore punches Ace Bailey from behind, knocking him unconcious and ending his career. Worth pointing out that Shore is now in the Hockey Hall of Fame. 

1955 - Maurice Richard knocks out a linesman. Worth pointing out that me simply mentioning this has probably given the BQ a one point bounce in the polls. 

1969 - Two NHL players engage in what is essentally a stick swinging sword fight in a preseason game, resulting in one player receiving a fractured skull and brain damage. 

1972 - Bobby Clarke slashes Soviet star player Valeri Kharlamov's ankle during the summit series, with the intent of breaking it, under the orders of coach John Ferguson (fun fact, Furguson is a great-uncle of mine). Move lauded as not only a display of tough hockey, but a display of great patriotism.

The 70's - The Broad Street Bullies. For a sample of their play, click here.

1999 - Eric Lindros attempts to crush Andreas Dackell's skull. Hit is not only considered clean, but by the rules of those days, is actually clean. Lindros goes unpenalized and unsuspended. 

West Coast Greeny wrote:

 The photo that RevolutionPlease posted is incredibly inconvienent to Chara. Looking at the video, its pretty clear the glove never came off the shoulder. 

Good grief.  Unless you have evidence it was photoshopped, it's clear it was a head shot in slow motion.

I'm a Laff fan, I have no reason to side with a fucking Hab.

FUCK!

Well then Chara shouldn't mind if he's suspended a few games in order to impress upon other NHLers to be careful not to RUN AN OPPOSING PLAYER'S HEAD UP AGAINST THE STANCHION or any other stationary objects not compatible with human health in general. Fair enough?

alan smithee wrote:

And isn't it funny that Colin Campbell's son Gregory plays for the B's?...And that Chara is a franchise player?

Yes it is funny now that you mention it.  [url=http://bruins.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8470169]Greg Campbell[/url], NHL "Player's Association" pres Colin Campbell's son.

[url=http://www.vancouversun.com/news/stars+Henrik+Sedin+Thornton+into+Zdeno+... stars Henrik Sedin, Joe Thornton rip into Zdeno Chara decision, Bruins[/url]
Canucks captain questions league’s logic, while ex-Boston captain wonders about his former team’s ‘horse shoe’

One 'frezze frame' does not tell the entire story. These guys are moving at 30k or faster. the whole hit fro start to him hitting the ice was only about 1 second.

alan smithee wrote:

Yeah...It was a clean hit.

 

Fuck off.

How polite. Such depth of thought and perspective. You talk to children with that attitude too?

politicalnick wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

Yeah...It was a clean hit.

 

Fuck off.

How polite. Such depth of thought and perspective. You talk to children with that attitude too?

You know what?

You can kiss my ass....If I wanted to talk to children I'd continue to talk to the likes of you,Buckwheat.

Get off your high horse

Anyway,I'm withdrawing from this thread because I'm getting mad and I don't want to say anything that'll get me banned.

But now people are going to find excuses for images showing what they show?

I'm sure the next excuse will be that it was Pacioretty that guided Chara's hand and forearm into the back of his head.

There's just too much bias in this thread..Too many people who deny the world is round simply because they hate the person who proved it.

I don't recall a media frenzy over this, similar hit:

Hal Gill slams Jon Sim's head into a stanchion

Freedom 55 wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

 

If I wanted to talk to children I'd continue to talk to the likes of you,Buckwheat.

 

 

I don't know what you meant by this, but it comes across as racist.

I'm a racist?...lol

Smoke another rock.

'Buckwheat'...as in 'Buddy'

The racism is in your mind...I suppose next I'll be called a terrorist or a pinko.

But way to start attacking me for having a little outrage on an injustice.

You'd all make Harper very proud.

al-Qa'bong wrote:

I don't recall a media frenzy over this, similar hit:

Hal Gill slams Jon Sim's head into a stanchion

Very good point..That should have been taken up as an issue.

But atleast he didn't break the guy's neck.

BTW,I guarantee you that if Gill's hit resulted in the same scene and injury as Chara's hit and was not given a suspension that alot of people downplaying Chara's dirty hit would be taking up the same position as mine.

WCG..I guess Sedin and Thornton are just 2 whining over reacting Hab fans,eh?

After all,they said pretty much what I said.

And I take it you're from the West Coast...If the team was the Canucks instead of the Canadiens and the player was one of the twins and not Pacioretty,I'd love to hear the tune you'd be singing.

alan smithee wrote:

'Buckwheat'...as in 'Buddy'

The racism is in your mind...I suppose next I'll be called a terrorist or a pinko.

But way to start attacking me for having a little outrage on an injustice.

You'd all make Harper very proud.

I was kicked for 2 days for less of a direct racist comment without the personal attack attached. You were totally flaggged. Lets see how fair the Mods are...

Hey alan, I'm sure you didn't know this, but "Buckwheat" refers to a 1930s black character on the Little Rascals who was represented as a racial stereotype. So the term itself is a racist pejorative, and is frequently used as such. Again, I know this is not what you meant, but the word has a history. Please refrain from using it. I should also add that telling other babblers to "fuck off" isn't cool either. No fighting in the hockey thread!

Now, can we get back to hockey?

We have figure skating threads?

Thanks alan--I know you didn't mean it that way. And I enjoyed your posts, but we can't have you telling other babblers to fuck off. After all, as al-Q says, this ain't figure skating.

al-Qa'bong wrote:

You never see antics like this in the figure skating threads.

And that crook Alan Eagleson was safe from colonial administrative law in the Northern Puerto Rico. It took a court in Bean Town of all cities to try and convict the bastard. We should have more white males in Parliament and Senate making the laws governing women and their children, and for girly men on skates, too, apparently

Sensible post, milo.

Tonight my boys and I watched a CTV clip of that hit over and over, and we concluded that the Chara hit was nasty, but it wasn't a deliberate attempt to drive Pacioretty's head into the stanchion (I'm going back to my original opinion).  The problems are that Chara is monstrously huge and strong (Remember his fight with Bryan McCabe?  Chara threw McCabe around like a rag doll) and there is a structural fault in the design of the glass near the penalty boxes.

I blame le Centre Bell.

Gee,I wonder why Bettman was so militant in defending Chara and dismissing the hit.

Well,the cat's out of the bag.

Bettman was given a 5 year contract extension the day after the infamous verdict and the same day the NHL found the Kubina misplaced elbow worthy of a 3 game suspension.

Seems Gary received this contract with the strong recommendation of Jeremy Jacobs...Owner of the Boston Bruins and president of the NHL board of governors.

From RDS -

Malgré toute la controverse des derniers jours entourant le cas Max Pacioretty, Gary Bettman ne risque pas de perdre son emploi de sitôt.

Selon ce que révèle le Globe and Mail, le commissaire de la Ligue nationale a reçu une prolongation de cinq ans.

C'est sous la forte recommandation du propriétaire des Bruins, Jeremy Jacobs, que Bettman a reçu ce vote de confiance.

Jacobs est également président du comité des gouverneurs de la LNH et son mandat consiste à nommer les principaux dirigeants de la ligue, dont le commissaire.

The NHL's discipinary committee is corrupt and in a blatant conflict of interest with Colin Campbell's son a member of the Boston Bruins and the president of the board of governors whose mandate includes naming the league's commisioner is also the owner of the Boston Bruins.

The NHL's governing body is colluded.

And Bettman is a little arrogant worm.

And with that,I have nothing else to say about this.

Make of that as you will.

alan smithee wrote:

The NHL's governing body is colluded.

And Bettman is a little arrogant worm.

 

You have only just realized this?

politicalnick wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

The NHL's governing body is colluded.

And Bettman is a little arrogant worm.

 

You have only just realized this?

Sorry..it wasn't directed at you,Bob McKenzie

Ah... glad to see this thread is almost over. Now I can safely give my opinion without being called a wimp, or a totalitarian, or a killjoy, or whatever (see the recreational sports deaths threads for more on this topic).

Body checking is banned in women's hockey.

Body checking is banned in children's hockey (below a certain age, varies by time and jurisdiction).

This is sexist and discriminatory.

Body checking should be banned in all hockey.

Don't like it? Watch boxing matches or WWII newsreels.

Hockey is possible without deliberate physical violence. It's a different game. It's a better game. And it's more respectful of human beings.

Cherry also spinned this to make it look like a Montreal 'conspiracy'...How predictable.

I've asked the question and I'll ask it again...What would an asshole like Don Cherry say if this involved the Leafs and the player was,say,Phil Kessel?

Cherry is a biased jackass..And he always has been.

I like the way Cherry ripped apart Geoff Molson and Air Canada for having their offices in Montreal and how,if he's going to bring up self interests,bias or collusion,he conveniently omits the elephant in the living room--Jeremy Jacobs is the owner of the Boston Bruins AND the president of the NHL board of governors and is the man who chooses the commissioner and approves his contract..Just like that nice 5 year extension Bettman was rewarded with right after finding Chara innnocent on all charges.

The NHL is corrupt and it has been proven and STILL people make excuses or look passed it becuase it involved an organization that SO many Canadians hate and for the league,a Canadian franchise that is not on the list of  priorities or fits the agenda the NHL is committed to.

Did Chara deserve to be arrested?...Absolutely not...Should he have been suspended for 10 games?..5 games?..NO...He SHOULD have got the typical 3 games evryone gets for a head shot..Should sponsors review their contracts with whatever company,event or individual they feel they do not want to associate themselves with?..Of course....And the talk of pulling sponsorship from the league is NOT unprecedented.

Sponsors do this type of thing all the time..The fact that Bettman dismissed that threat has everything to do with his arrogance,his ego and his contempt for Canadian sponsors..If that were Anheiser-Busch,you can bet your last dime that he'd take that very seriously.

I read that 60% of the NHL's revenue comes from the Canadian teams and Canadian sponsors and Canadian television...I wouldn't be surprised if that figure is much larger.

And out of that 60%, 2/3's of it come from 2 teams..The Canadiens and the Leafs..followed closely by the Canucks.

The NHL LOVES Canadian revenues but has nothing but contempt and disdain for our clubs and the fans.

And I'm sorry to say but this systematic condoning of a flagrant cheap shot and Quebec bashing is stemmed in bias and the worst case of Canadian contempt for the province of Quebec.

And it starts with that fuckin' huge gaping dirty asshole named Don Cherry all the way down the line.

You've been playing pro-NHL hockey since you could walk? Ron, Ron, sign him up!