Protests against public sector union busting continue

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George Victor

You know, I was just  thinking about "Rae days" while waiting for your post to pop up.  In the early 90s, legislation passed by the one-term gov't iof Bob Rae gave workers much more power in organizing and building unions, but it was also a period of provincial deficits...the deepest recession since the 1930s and now the second deepest (after the Great Recession of 2008-2010).  But in asking provincial workers to work some unpaid time...share  the pain, in what were called "Rae days"..labour left the New Democrats in droves.

And of course, many of them were soon to experience "No Days", as government was shrunk by Mike Harris and his crew. It just goes on, along with the bellyaching, like an aching tooth. 

But since only Republican/Conservative elements can benefit from the internal backbiting among progressive people over such absence of understanding among the workers, the social democratic and purely democratic parties have to slog on, hoping for political growth out there:

March 11, 2011

Democrats See Wisconsin Loss as Galvanizing

 

By KATE ZERNIKE and MONICA DAVEY

 

Even as the Republican governor of Wisconsin was signing a bill Friday that all but ended collective bargaining for state employees, Democrats nationally had put out advertisements and letters to use his own success against him.

In a push to raise money for their candidates, Democrats hope Wisconsin will be for them what the health care overhaul was for Republicans in last year's midterm elections: a galvanizing force for their base, and an example of overreaching that will win them crucial independent voters, not just in Wisconsin but also in Congressional races and the presidential election next year.

They point to polls showing that the same level of intensity that helped Republicans campaigning against health care is now behind Democrats on the issue of collective bargaining. Gov. Scott Walker's refusal to compromise with Democrats has given them a vivid way to demonstrate the point they tried unsuccessfully to make during the midterms: that Republicans are motivated by ideology, not just budget balancing.

"This is one of the uglier examples of the tyranny of a temporary majority, and I think it's going to backfire badly," said Gov. Martin O'Malley of Maryland, the chairman of the Democratic Governors Association.

"Democratic governors are facing some of the same budget challenges, and we're asking for some of the same concessions, but we're staying at the table and working with our work force and their union representatives," he said. "The Republicans are taking advantage of the economic downturn to sharpen their ideological axes and settle old scores."

In a push to raise money for their candidates, Democrats hope Wisconsin will be for them what the health care overhaul was for Republicans in last year's midterm elections.

NDPP

The Last Hurdle for Corporate Capitalism in Deunionizing America  - by Pro Basel Saleh

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23665

"...What is at stake is the total control by the corporate sector over the US legislative process, especially in the general election of 2012 and afterward. Labor groups are a major funding source in federal and state elections that offset the power of corporate lobbying money.."

politicalnick

Boom Boom wrote:
Tax the rich. End of story.

I agree.

The best econmic growth ever seen in the US was when there was a 90% tax on the rich and almost no tax on the working calss. I belive it was from FDR but I could be wrong about that.

George Victor

Now you just have to make it a world-wide effort so that all the wealth does not shift to those states lacking such an over-arching ethic.

And tax the movement of capital at a rate of, say, 5 per cent (hell, let's say 10 per cent...no piddling around with those proposed Tobin tax rates at 0.25 per cent).

Why not?  That would be the moral thing to do in an immoral, capitalist setting...although your thoughts on taxation here vary so outrageously from your taxation ideas in the Ontario file that I'm wondering what you are smoking if you find no inconsistency, no fear of comparison. Have you speculated on what those workers in Wisconsin are being forced to give up just to retain their jobs?  That is the central concern of this thread, that and the demise of bargaining rights and freedoms...when you are through with your silly, contradictory offerings.

josh

Another large scale Saturday rally occurred in Madison, Wisconsin, protesting Republican Gov. Scott Walker's newly-passed law curtailing public employee unions -- and this time with some special guests, the 14 Democratic state Senators who had fled the state in an attempt to block the three-fifths budget quorum for the bill. And in all, their starring role likely helped boost attendance at this rally, held to demonstrate continued opposition to Walker's policies, to between 85,000 and 100,000 people as the largest crowd yet.

 

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/rally-in-madison-the-wisconsi...

George Victor

Yep. The NYTimes photo is great:

For Wisconsin Lawmakers, a Hero's Homecoming
By A. G. SULZBERGER

There was a warm reception for Democrats who had left in a failed effort to block a bill weakening public unions.

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

Yes, what heroes the Democrats are! They will save the workers from capitalism!

Honestly, George, you need to put down that right-wing rag called the New York Times and read something at least a teeny bit more liberal, if you can't stomach actual leftist opinion.

NDPP

Do or Die in Wisconsin: Where Are the Union Leaders?  - by Lee Sustar

http://www.counterpunch.org/sustar03102011.html

"So the unions are faced with a do or die proposition. The repeated mass mobilizations which exceeded 100,000 on February 26 -- have failed to deter Walker. Now labor must go beyond demonstrations to take actions that will force Walker and his business backers to retreat. Without such escalation, the public-sector unions in Wisconsin may well cease to exist as effective worker organizations.

Whether or not the anger of the union rank and file will push union officials into action is unclear. Labor has already shown it has the power to stop Walker's union-busting. But do union leaders have the will to use it?"

George Victor

M. Spector wrote:

Yes, what heroes the Democrats are! They will save the workers from capitalism!

Honestly, George, you need to put down that right-wing rag called the New York Times and read something at least a teeny bit more liberal, if you can't stomach actual leftist opinion.

MS, you wouldn't recognize a liberal if you tripped over one.  And "actual leftist opinion" doesn't mean diddly squat to those folks fighting out there.  That farmer in the picture with his arm raised  wouldn't know what in hell you were talking about.  Come down off your revolutionary cloud and try to see what's at work in all this. (But of course, you will never see the farmer with his arm raised, bucause the NYTimes does not represent your narrow opinion, only the mainstream.

Slumberjack

George Victor wrote:
(But of course, you will never see the farmer with his arm raised, bucause the NYTimes does not represent your narrow opinion, only the mainstream.

So you're merely trying to introduce the unbeknownst mainstream opinion to the great unread, in the form of repeated links to the NY Times, out of an altruistic sense of civic mindedness?  How thoughtful.

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

George Victor wrote:

 (But of course, you will never see the farmer with his arm raised, bucause the NYTimes does not represent your narrow opinion, only the mainstream.

 

Don't you see what you did and admitted there George?

 

C'mon brother, I know some of us lean too far to the left for your liking but perhaps you should consider that the world I hear you speak of, the same world I want for our children, won't come from the literary style of the NY Times.  You are a fabulous ally at times, just asking you to take a step back and think about it.  We won't save our grandchildren the way we're going.  Much as my moniker suggests, I'm more for a mind Revolution than a physical one.  That's the battle we need to win.

 

Solidarity.

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

It is a hypocrisy George will have to explain Jack!  ;)

 

Do these great unread read nothing?  Is the NY Times really avoided by the great unread?  That must mean they don't read nuthin' George.

 

Is the NY Times really this bastion of the almighty "Read"

 

Slumberjack

Well, I'd like to believe it's avoided here for the most part, at least as the basis of an opinion shaping medium.

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

I hate it that the only things I contribute here are from the mainstream.  But that's where folks around me are firing from.   But I don't use them as how I act.  My friends are fairly impressed by the stuff I've gathered from here and can knock their softballs out of the park.  If only I could make more friends.  :)

 

Keep it up people, we're making a difference.

Slumberjack

Is anyone really making a difference in the wider sense RP?  We're staring three potential nuclear meltdowns in the face, while here in North America it was and still will form a key part of the corporate clean energy strategy of the future, where the message will continue to enjoy nods from a receptive population and influential backers, no matter how many people die, are stricken, or are born deformed from the effects of radiation.  Everything continues to remain possible in an era of 'clean coal' and 'enviro-friendly' oil sands extraction.

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

Thanks for putting it in plain words that need to be seen 'Jack!  We need to step it up.

George Victor

Slumberjack wrote:

Is anyone really making a difference in the wider sense RP?  We're staring three potential nuclear meltdowns in the face, while here in North America it was and still will form a key part of the corporate clean energy strategy of the future, where the message will continue to enjoy nods from a receptive population and influential backers, no matter how many people die, are stricken, or are born deformed from the effects of radiation.  Everything continues to remain possible in an era of 'clean coal' and 'enviro-friendly' oil sands extraction.

ANd now you write off nuclear (not to vary too far off course in a thread about public workers  under attack in an ongoing reaction by capitalism to the gains made by progressives in the post-war period) and demonstrate concern for the burning of fossil fuels ...having given up driving, yourself.

Way to go, revolutionary. Hope burns eternal. Why don't you hand out shovels for digging our graves while you are at your pettyfogging, all-embracing, mind-numbing, nihilistic meanderings?

MegB

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