The Obama Thread

An exciting prospective alternative president for the land of the challenged:

Barbour Slams Obama on Economy and Energy
By JEFF ZELENY

Waiting in the wings, ready to take up the reins of power:

Mormon Politicians From Utah Feel Tea Party Heat
By KIRK JOHNSON

Orrin G. Hatch, Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman Jr. are facing criticism for not being conservative enough.

Obama Even Worse Than Bush?  - by David Swanson

http://warisacrime.org/node/57094

"So why not impeach Obama? I clamored for the impeachment of Bush. I say Obama is as bad or worse.."

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The time has come for those who claim high regard for the U.S. Constitution to show that they mean what they say.  The time has come to begin impeachment proceedings against President Barack H. Obama for high crimes and misdemeanors.

[url=http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/03/impeach-barack-obama/]Impeach Barack Obama[/url]

Good one.

But I'd advise staying away from the Comments section at Dissident Voice. It's completely unmoderated and populated by toxic trolls.

Obama's North African War

http://blackagendareport.com/blog/101

"Obama hopes to 'stabilize' Libya under direct US dominion through a kind of protectorate involving various 'international' entities, on the Haitian model. The president's doctrine of 'humanitarian' warfare- like his rhetoric - is merely a sweetened derivative of George Bush's more crudely presented policies. In the final analysis, Euro-American hegemony means crushing the aspirations of all Arabs in the sand.."

'US Hides Iron Fist Under Velvet Glove' Says Union of Islamic Students Association

http://whirrd.com/us-hides-iron-fist-under-velvet-glove-says-union-of-is...

"The Union of Islamic Students Association has condemned President Barack Obama's motivated response to the recent turmoil in the Middle East and North African regions in an open letter. The following is the entire text of the letter.."

George Victor wrote:

Oh, if you read widely enough, you can distinguish between the GOP flavour and Democratic. You can even sense the depth of ignorance of an electorate that would buy into the Republicans denial of Climate Change:

Obama is far slicker than Bush ever was and he talks about the right things in glowing words.  I however judge him by his deeds not his words.  He says he is a man of peace and bombs numerous countries.  He says he is not in denial of climate change and then he okays drilling for oil in areas as potentially harmful as the Gulf. He understands how the banks destroyed the middle class housing market and he rewarded the players with billion dollar bailouts with no strings attached. He is the new face of corporate America, make no mistake about that.

http://www.cnsnews.com/node/63594

Bernie Sanders for President

A GOP government after Obama now taking shape, thanks to a "progressive" and "stunned" electorate...

Shutdown Looms as Talks on Stopgap Budget Fail
By JENNIFER STEINHAUER and CARL HULSE

As Congress and the White House veered toward fiscal collision, House Republicans unveiled a longer-range blueprint defining a new era of profoundly smaller government.

• Annotated Budget Proposal | More From budget.house.gov

G.O.P. Blueprint Would Remake Health Policy
By ROBERT PEAR

A plan to rein in Medicaid and Medicare costs represents a fundamental rethinking of how the two programs

The unions will be energized after the direct attack on collective bargaining.  In Canada the SCC has said it is a Charter right.  I think some Americans will fight to keep their right to association and for that they need to get out the state vote.  

My dream scenario (yes George some of us still dare to dream even if the odds are infinitesimal) is the unions getting out the vote and trouncing the Republicans at the state level and in both federal houses while backing an Independent Bernie Sanders for President.  Now that would be a message of hope and change for America.

Northern Shoveler wrote:

The unions will be energized after the direct attack on collective bargaining.  In Canada the SCC has said it is a Charter right.  I think some Americans will fight to keep their right to association and for that they need to get out the state vote.  

My dream scenario (yes George some of us still dare to dream even if the odds are infinitesimal) is the unions getting out the vote and trouncing the Republicans at the state level and in both federal houses while backing an Independent Bernie Sanders for President.  Now that would be a message of hope and change for America.

But in Canada it's "don't vote for the NDP because...(insert your radically correct reasoning here.)   Any sign of a more rational approach in good old "Merica, Shoveler? 

The "stupid leftie jab" is only an attempt to cut through the endless, keening note of criticism of a president under attack from the most conservative of elements in the U.S. while saying things like "

"Bernie Sanders for President." That, of course, would be nice.

I'm reminded of all the critics of the New Democratic Party in this oh-so-progressive site. Screw the party over - endlessly - throughout the year, maintain a demoralizing position just to flush your own psyche of poisons, and do nothing to attack the real enemies, the architects of a building fascist state.

By the way, the architects of this suddenly rebuilt site, should be shot with a ball of their own making. 

Whatever it is you think you are communicating all I'm receiving is pointless, ad homonym attacks.  If you want to discuss some issue fine but cryptic asides that make the most sense in your own head do nothing for me.

I think what is interesting in the US is that they could elect Democratic majorities in both Houses and those same voters don't have to elect Obama or a Tea Bagger next time around.  Unlike in our system of course where you vote for an MP not a PM. 

Snert wrote:

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ad homonym attacks

 

The sweet irony is that "homonym" is practically a homonym of "hominem".

This site is a joke.

Not such a joke:

Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives' Sway
By JENNIFER STEINHAUER

The emergence of abortion as the most contentious issue holding up the budget deal highlighted the sway of social conservatives.

The NYTimes' Paul Krugman, April 10

"More broadly, Mr. Obama is conspicuously failing to mount any kind of challenge to the philosophy now dominating Washington discussion - a philosophy that says the poor must accept big cuts in Medicaid and food stamps; the middle class must accept big cuts in Medicare (actually a dismantling of the whole program); and corporations and the rich must accept big cuts in the taxes they have to pay. Shared sacrifice!

I'm not exaggerating. The House budget proposal that was unveiled last week - and was praised as "bold" and "serious" by all of Washington's Very Serious People - includes savage cuts in Medicaid and other programs that help the neediest, which would among other things deprive 34 million Americans of health insurance. It includes a plan to privatize and defund Medicare that would leave many if not most seniors unable to afford health care. And it includes a plan to sharply cut taxes on corporations and to bring the tax rate on high earners down to its lowest level since 1931.

The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center puts the revenue loss from these tax cuts at $2.9 trillion over the next decade. House Republicans claim that the tax cuts can be made "revenue neutral" by "broadening the tax base" - that is, by closing loopholes and ending exemptions. But you'd need to close a lot of loopholes to close a $3 trillion gap; for example, even completely eliminating one of the biggest exemptions, the mortgage interest deduction, wouldn't come close. And G.O.P. leaders have not, of course, called for anything that drastic. I haven't seen them name any significant exemptions they would end."

@tis

Let's stick to the Obama question for a bit...and perhaps you could spend a few minutes going over the many Obama threads of the last couple of years. Many dilettants have proclaimed this African/American Harvard man a fraud, even while he struggles to find means to preserve the remnants of - what passes for - a social welfare system that the Democrats managed to create in the post-war period and that was endangered as soon as the Democrats lost Dixie to a newly evangelical GOP.

What could YOU accomplish in a nation so dumbed-down, so open to perverted opinion that half its citizens believe he was not born in America and that he is a closet Muslim? No, it's like Britain's Miriam Margolyse told her New York audience at the end of her tour that followed in the footsteps of Charles Dickens' 1842 journey and produced the "travelogue" Dickens in America: "Religion seems to have you people by the balls." Dickens had gone desperately searching for a new humanity in the land of the free.  He found that it existed only for the white population, not the aboriginal or black. Ecclesiastes seems to have it about right.

I tend to agree with Fidel on this one.

I also agree (with George) that even if he did want to do something for the people (of which I am not certain) that the right wing and the extremely well capitalized, vested interests in the medical/pharmaceutical industries shut that door on him just as it was closed on Clinton.

Although, I do find you offensive George. I am sure you find my "stupid questions" equally obnoxious.

Obama is just the latest symptom of the pathogen we refer to as capitalism.  These threads have never been about attacking Obama, but instead have been about describing the prevailing condtions, causes and culprits.  Such nuances escape those who have yet to wipe the koolaid stains from their mouths.

Slumberjack wrote:

Obama is just the latest symptom of the pathogen we refer to as capitalism.  These threads have never been about attacking Obama, but instead have been about describing the prevailing condtions, causes and culprits.  Such nuances escape those who have yet to wipe the koolaid stains from their mouths.

Well said.  

Isn't it nice to know that he won a Nobel Peace Prize. I am sure the people of Tripoli are praising him as the bombs rain down on them and their country and they watch the infrastructure that has been built over forty years destroyed.  But only for their own good and don't you let anyone tell you different.  

We know that the whole world can benefit from American exceptionalism is Obama's line just like every other American President before him. That is the American responsibility and a heavy burden it is. I guess its good to see them finally taking their white man's burden seriously or how else could the poor people of the middle east ever advance.

 Obama has taken it too a new level and now has a new facade for American domination.  It is not the US liberating the people from their resources and money it is NATO. Because NATO is made up of all the ADVANCED democracies they have earned the right to decide other peoples fates.  It has nothing to do with the fact that its member countries spend more on weapons of mass destruction than any other alliance in the history of the planet.  It is not might makes right according to Obama it is we are right and have the duty to impose our superior world view on other countries because we are exceptional.

George does not stick his head in the sand.  But he does seem to spend a lot of time lapping up the NY Times revealed wisdom.   Obama only kills civilians for their own good and therefore he must be praised as a progressive with a only few minor blemishes on his halo.