In light of this week's events in which China once again pressured Nepal to foil attempts by refugee Tibetans to hold an election to choose a new Prime Minister for the government-in-exile (apparently democracy is seditious), I would like to ask a serious if naive question.
Why is there not on this board call for a BDS campaign against China for its treatment of Tibetans?
That's a great idea. Perhaps you could start up a campaign thread here in "Activism." Thanks for taking the initiative.
Do you have any idea how difficult a BDS campaign against China would be? Everything comes from China. The computer you're reading this missive on was probably made in China, at the very least the monitor was. Israel is easy. Some shoes and a few bottles of wine. Big deal. Activists don't have the required follow-through for truly difficult campaigns.
China is not actually bombing other countries right now. If you wanted to prioritize your campaigns, you might start with that.
Of course, then Canada should be subject to such a boycott. That might be a little tricky.
Imagine a world power using its diplomatic muscle to get Nepal on side instead of sending cruise missile strikes against the Tibetan separatists. You do realize it is rumoured they have been working with cells inside China to create more riots and destruction of Chinese Tibetans property. Get back to me when China funds Nepal to create an open air prison to deal with the Tibetan dissidents and I will be totally on side.
Imagine a world power using its diplomatic muscle to get Nepal on side instead of sending cruise missile strikes against the Tibetan separatists. You do realize it is rumoured they have been working with cells inside China to create more riots and destruction of Chinese Tibetans property. Get back to me when China funds Nepal to create an open air prison to deal with the Tibetan dissidents and I will be totally on side.
I'm curious, is this the prevailing view at babble around the Tibetan struggle? Tibetans are separatists, dissidents, and rumoured terrorists. Without getting into the history of Chinese occupation, massacres, and egregious human rights abuses, we find it acceptable that the Chinese use "diplomatic muscle" to coerce Nepal into using armed force to prevent Tibetan refugees from conducting democratic elections?
ovechkin, my understanding of international calls for BDS is that they are initiated by the people affected in the occupied/oppressed country/nation. I personally have a problem with activists from the West making these kinds of decisions or priorities.
That said, no, Northern Shoveler doesn't speak for all of babble. Nobody does.
Well, except for oldgoat. 
ovechkin, my understanding of international calls for BDS is that they are initiated by the people affected in the occupied/oppressed country/nation. I personally have a problem with activists from the West making these kinds of decisions or priorities.
Fair enough. I agree with you. Do we know that Tibetans haven't called on the international community for such measures of solidarity as BDS? Should we not be condemning China for its brutal, I would argue bordering on genocidal, treatment of Tibetans? How should we display our solidarity with Tibetans? How should we respond to China's actions of this past week?
That said, no, Northern Shoveler doesn't speak for all of babble. Nobody does.
Again fair enough. I'll rephrase. Are Northern Shoveler's sentiments prevalent at babble? Just curious if others share those views and why. I guess I'm drifting now from the intended topic but I was just struck this week by the events in Nepal. I was struck by the disproportionate response to beautiful peaceful people simply wanting to hold democratic elections, an act that was seen as seditious. As I learn more about the Tibetan struggle, I'm struck by some obvious similarities to the Palestinian struggle, yet it is hardly ever mentioned on the Left. I'm curious why that is. Anyway, I thought what happened in Nepal this week was newsworthy, but perhaps I should start a different topic.
I'm struck by some obvious similarities to the Palestinian struggle, yet it is hardly ever mentioned on the Left. I'm curious why that is.
We're Maoist antisemites?
What are you fishing for?
We're Maoist antisemites?
What are you fishing for?
If someone just cared about Tibetans, they'd be rallying support for Tibetans.
If someone cared about smearing babble and babblers, they'd call us hypocrites for supporting BDS against Israel.
I think you've got it, Al-Q.
Damn I fell for it.
I was struck by the disproportionate response to beautiful peaceful people simply wanting to hold democratic elections,
Yikes.
What makes a people "beautiful" and "peaceful"? And others, presumably, not? And are only "beautiful" and "peaceful" people entitled to freedom from oppressive regimes?
Double yikes.
I think there's been a lot of reading into my comments, perhaps expectedly given the acrimony that often erupts around this subject, perhaps unjustifiably. Let me try to be clearer. I neither disagree with the BDS campaign against Israel nor would I even want to challenge its hegemonic status around here. The situation in Gaza is much more timely and urgent. And yes the Palestinian people are beautiful and peaceful people too, something I'd like to hear around here more often.
I recently attended Judith Butler's talk in support of BDS and found it one of the most honest, cogent, nuanced and well-informed defences of the BDS campaign against Israel that I've heard. So I didn't come here to call you hypocrites, anti-Semites, nor Maoists (I hardly think the Left can retain any ideological affinity with today's Chinese Administration).
I guess what I'm fishing for is an understanding as to why there has been near complete silence by progressive leftists on the question of Tibet (worse when that silence has been broken the left has often not sympathized with Tibetans as shown above by Norther Shoveler, but there are more classic examples like Parenti).
I guess what I'm fishing for is a little condemnation of the Chinese government for their actions this week. I happen to think that the unnecessary use of armed force against people who are peacefully trying to hold an election is not only newsworthy, but also worthy of a little solidarity by progressives with Tibetans. I'd just like to see the Tibetan struggle somewhere on the agenda, even at the bottom of the agenda, as long as once in a while, when relevant, we could discuss the plight of Tibetans and how we might help. Sorry I brought it up.
Its as anatomic as the size of your steeple.
Capitalism has made it this way.
Old fashioned fascism will take it away.
overchkin, my critique of that phrase you used was not done in the interest of furthering your Orientalism by using it some more. It was to point out the problematic assumptions behind the use of the phrase (by someone in the West, I assume) towards folks who live in the racialized "east".
And only Slumberack could find an appropriate Marilyn Manson song for the occasion. 
And, overchkin, if you're serious?
I guess what I'm fishing for is an understanding as to why there has been near complete silence by progressive leftists on the question of Tibet
A relatively quick google search will net you all sorts of folks in the West, and in Canada specifically, who are fighting against the oppression of the Tibetan people. babble is not a gauge of what's going on in the Canadian left, just a small slice of it.
Speaking for one section of the Canadian left (me), Tibet is part of China. At least, that's what the world thinks. From what I read, the Chinese regime (like many others) mistreats all its people to one extent or another - I'm unaware of anything they do worse to Tibetans. I have no more interest in taking up whatever cause Tibetans imagine they have than of some beleaguered ethnic group elsewhere in China - or Chechnya - or Belgium.
I think my prime role is to fight against my own regime's mistreatment of its people and its imperial oppression of others around the world.
As for the Palestinian people, their lands are occupied by an alien regime which regularly commits war crimes and crimes against humanity against them. The entire world recognizes the illegality of these actions. Comparing the two leads me to wonder what the motivation might be.
Speaking for one section of the Canadian left (me), Tibet is part of China. At least, that's what the world thinks. From what I read, the Chinese regime (like many others) mistreats all its people to one extent or another - I'm unaware of anything they do worse to Tibetans.
Unionist, while your interests are your own, your lack of awareness is also your own. I've never known you to base your knowledge on "what the world thinks".
And you know my critique of China, more specifically PRC, isn't from an anti-China or anti-socialist perspective but from an anti-empire perspective.
The Tibetans (and others) are Chinese the same way the Ojibwa (and others) are Canadian.
Imagine a world power using its diplomatic muscle to get Nepal on side instead of sending cruise missile strikes against the Tibetan separatists. You do realize it is rumoured they have been working with cells inside China to create more riots and destruction of Chinese Tibetans property. Get back to me when China funds Nepal to create an open air prison to deal with the Tibetan dissidents and I will be totally on side.
Overchin that was a parody. Of course I would not advocate cruise missiles strikes or anything else. You should also note I said "rumours" because that is the kind of information regularly used to bomb countries that the west does not like. Just across the border from Tibet the US is using cruise strikes against villages in a country we are supposed to be allied with. I hear they are all terrorist in those mountains so I guess killing them is justified. That is the comparison I used in my parody. I also find your comparison of the Palestine people to the people of Tibet very disturbing and part of the reason I posted the parody is because it seemed to me your post was not only anti-Chinese but pro-Israel.
When are us do-gooders going to give the FN's back the land or at least let them run the country without any say from the majority of the people living in the area who are part of the settler culture. If I am not mistaken you don't have to be of a particular religion to get extra privilege in Tibet you only get the regular citizenship. Perhaps you think Tibet should have a a two tired democracy like Israel where the people from the right religious group have a special place in the constitution with special rights to ensure the "character" of Tibet stays religious with one religion having superiority.
Canada officially hosted the Dali Lama, a divine representative of the Tibetan people's struggle. What more do you want, a no fly zone and an invasion of China? We're busy here with our anticipation of a similar invitation to a spiritual leader for the Palestinian struggle, whenever they get around to appointing one. Seems the last fellow was assassinated by an Israeli missile as he sat in his wheelchair.
In light of this week's events in which China once again pressured Nepal to foil attempts by refugee Tibetans to hold an election to choose a new Prime Minister for the government-in-exile (apparently democracy is seditious), I would like to ask a serious if naive question.
Why is there not on this board call for a BDS campaign against China for its treatment of Tibetans?
Probably because it's a bit hard to boycott 20% of the world. That's always the problem with China. It's a bit too big to deal with in that way. You'd have to be more selective.
Government in exile is quite provocative terminology. By definition it says the Chinese governments control of Tibet is illegal and that the majority of the people living in Tibet would choose independence if given the opportunity. There are interesting arguments on both sides of those debates, Since the last 60 years of intense settlement it is clear that the Tibetan's have already been displaced by a settler culture. Why are you concerned about this specific group that has been displaced by a settler culture? Between 1850 and 1910 Canada did exactly the same thing to the FN's on the Pacific Coast and the Chinese have at least as good a claim over Tibet as the British crown had over the west coast.
I know I don't have a solution but since you seem to have the easy solutions tell me what should the Tibetans do with the settlers who are now the majority? Are they to be given a vote in this "government" or will race and religion be the determining factors in who gets the "democratic" franchise. I am really hoping you have a good solution since the last hundred years have seen so many places overrun by settler cultures I am sure that any ideas on how the Tibetans get to reestablish control of their former territory would be appreciated by the Haida or Nisgha and maybe even the real Hawaiians.
I didn't realize that Orientalism referred to positive and generalized attributions applied to an oppressed group of people out of deep respect and solidarity with them. Did I generalize, yes. Don't all of us do it when we stand in solidarity with oppressed groups, be they workers, indigenous people, First Nations, Palestinians etc. My understanding of Orientalism, and its been a long time since, refers to a tendency to cast the East, the Non-West (I'm not sure which word I could use that wouldn't offend Maysie) in terms that help the West to affirm its own identity, fascinate itself, and primarily advance its colonial/imperial ambitions. Thus, the East, is often depicted as the irrational, terroristic, exotic, backward, feminized Other of the West. In the process, the West affirms its identity as the binary opposite of those things, the West titillates itself, and foremost the West legitimizes and advances colonial/imperial rule and domination.
I used the terms beautiful and peaceful as metonyms for suffering, as that at the heart of a wounded humanity which calls out for my response. And I will continue to refer to those suffering injustice (whether Western or non-Western as my beautiful, peaceful brothers and sisters). So I'm not quite sure how my phrasing contributes to Western hegemony, but I'm willing to learn if Maysie wishes to correct me.
As for Tibet and a rough comparison to Palestine.
1. Occupation by a foreign imperial power. One of Mao's first acts of "liberation" was the brutal and illegal occupation of Tibet. Tibet was an independent nation in 1949 when it was savagely taken by a foreign occupier. Tibetans, whether those living under Chinese rule or those in exile, just want to regain their independent home and nation, and an end to the atrocious violations of the Tibetan people's political, religious, cultural, social and economic rights by the Chinese government.
2. Use of settlers and settlements to attempt to disrupt and assimilate the occupied people. While exact figures may be debatable, there is no questions the Chinese have moved hundreds of thousands of settlers into Tibet. Lhasa is predominantly Chinese now. The economic and cultural implication of Chinese settlement in Tibet on the Tibetans is clear.
3. Apartheid: In 1991 the Dalai Lama claimed: "The new Chinese settlers have created an alternate society: a Chinese apartheid which, denying Tibetans equal social and economic status in our own land, threatens to finally overwhelm and absorb us."
If it were up to me, there would be an international BDS campaign against China as impractical, indeed impossible, as that would be. But isn't that what we demand: the impossible?
i started this topic mainly because it was topical. This was international news that I believe we should be cognizant of, and indeed contemptuous of. I don't need a no-fly zone over China. I don't need reassurance that the Dalai Lama has been welcomed by many heads of State...
It just would have been cool not to have been immediately attacked and it would have been cool to have had one person say what China did last week was totally uncool. And if a discussion and debate ensued that would have been cool too.
As for Canada and a rough comparison to Palestine.
1. Occupation by a foreign imperial power. One of King's first acts of "liberation" was the brutal and illegal occupation of Turtle Isalnd. The Salsih Nations where independent nations when they were savagely taken by a foreign occupier. The FN's whether those living under Canadian rule or those in exile, just want to regain their independent home and nation, and an end to the atrocious violations of the FN's people's political, religious, cultural, social and economic rights by the Canadian government.
2. Use of settlers and settlements to attempt to disrupt and assimilate the occupied people. While exact figures may be debatable, there is no questions the Canadians have moved millionss of settlers into the Salish Sea heartland. The Salish Nations' territory is predominantly Canadian now. The economic and cultural implication of Canadian settlement in the Salish territory on the various FN's is clear.
3. Apartheid: A term created by racists trying to recreate the Canadian model.
I have as much empathy for the Tibetan refugees as I have for Iraqi refugees in Syria and Afghan internal refugees. I am merely wondering why this particular injustice is so important to you and not other injustices caused by our own society and its governments over the years.
Thanks at least for engaging Northern Shoveler. I came on here originally to highlight the Tibetan struggle for autonomy and freedom from Chinese abuse and torture and killing, which continues to be a reality today for two simple reasons.
It was topical international news.
Secondly, I think there is not one but there are two imperial superpowers that we need to challenge fiercely: the US and China. I would like to see a little more exposure of the Chinese government's massive and reckless abuses. What is being perpetrated under the name of Marxist Leninism in places like Nepal, for instance, is an egregious effrontery to Marx, to Lenin, to democracy, and basic human dignity.
I am in solidarity with all of the injustices you mentioned, perhaps I have a little more concern for this one because of reasons stated above and also because I know many Tibetans, and I've come to know their stories, their histories, their suffering. And I have to admit that based on the responses here, the general apathy, the mischaracterizations, this cause has just become a little more important to me.
Yeah ovechkin:
1. I have never heard anything about Marx or Lenin from China - which media releases are you reading?
2. Equating the U.S. with China is way over the top. China attacks, occupies, and threatens no foreign country. The day we can say the same for the U.S., we will agree that they are both big nasty capitalist regimes and systems whose own people must deal with them in their way and in their time. In the meantime, I see Canada as a greater threat to the security and sovereignty of the world's people than China.
ovechkin, I think that part of the suspicious response you've received here comes from the fact that one of the most frequently used propaganda lines of Israeli government apologists is "what about Tibet?" (sometimes, they break up the monotony by saying "Sri Lanka" instead).
This probably has a lot to do with the degree to which posters in this thread have distrusted your motivations.
Ken, I don't think I could have been clearer throughout this thread about my support for the Palestinian people and the international BDS campaign against Israel. As I said also, I'm not looking to reprioritize causes around here.
My motivation was to share news that was topical, that seemingly few people were aware of, and that should outrage those working for social justice. What the Nepalese government (a coalition made of up Maoists, various Marxist Leninist parties) and armed authorities (funded by China) are currently doing to the Tibetan people there is a travesty of justice. Tibetans are undocumented, considered neither citizens, nor refugees nor stateless persons, and thus in a state of legal suspension, unable to leave. They are routinely subjected to exploitation, abuse, torture, and sometimes death.
With a simple google search you can check out what the Nepalese authorities did this past 10th of March to the 3000 or so Tibetan refugees in Kathmandu as they gathered to commemorate the uprising of 1959 when thousands were massacred by communist government forces. Then last week the Nepalese authorities forcefully foiled any attempt by the Tibetan people there to hold elections for their democratic government-in-exile.
Unionist, I'm not equating US and China, other than their status as world superpowers with imperial desire. I think China will prove to be a much worse humanitarian, economic and ecological threat to world security than the US. Anyway, I see you choose your words carefully- in 1949, Tibet wasn't a "country" (although it was an independent nation with its own language, government, currency, legal system,...). How would you characterize the Chinese invasion of Tibet and the more than one million Tibetans that have lost their lives as a result of the occupation?
I've said all I have to say on this. Curious to read what others might have to say.
I'm not equating US and China, other than their status as world superpowers with imperial desire. I think China will prove to be a much worse humanitarian, economic and ecological threat to world security than the US.
That sentiment came out loud and clear in your posts and it is my fundamental disagreement with you. You place China's misdeeds in the same category or worse than a country that is currently bombing numerous countries with drone technology. Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, sorry I can't keep track so I might have missed a couple. That is not to mention the dozens of countries they have standing garrisons in and the fact that its fleets patrol every ocean and sea on the planet to enforce their power.
One regime will murder and invade to gain resources the other uses arm twisting diplomacy and economic clout. While they both are using imperial means to get their ends one is far bloodier than the other. Americans kill for gain and have in every decade somewhere on the planet since the "Indian Wars."
I think that what you seem confused about, as a few people have pointed out, is that the BDS campaign against Israel and their corpororat supporters was CALLED FOR BY PALESTINIAN PEOPLE, not some left-winger who thought that the peaceful and beautiful people of Palestine needed help from the white knight.
If Tibetans called for a BDS campaign i would support it. It has nothing to do with how difficult it is (or whatever) to not buy products from China. It has to do with solidarity and autonomy.
Le T your sarcasm and capital letters notwithstanding, your point is well taken. I agreed with Maysie when the same point was made above. While to my knowledge the Tibetan people have not asked for a concerted BDS campaign against China, they are suffering grave injustices and have repeatedly reached out to the international community for solidarity. The topic was introduced as a question, admittedly naively but with good will.
Given that the Tibetan people would likely never ask for a BDS campaign against their oppressor and given your point about respect for autonomy of the oppressed (and we shouldn't discount what others said about impracticality), it seems that a BDS campaign against China is inappropriate -even if personally I would like to be part of a BDS campaign against China for its egregious humanitarian abuses.
So the next question would be how do we show solidarity with the despicable injustices faced by the Tibetan people at the hands of the Chinese and Nepalese authorities, injustices that persist and that made news as recently as last week? After all, it seems that only in Nepal is holding democratic elections considered seditious. No other country in the world prevented Tibetans in exile from holding their elections.
Gee how about those NATO strikes on Tripoli being conducted by Canadian forces?
Yes, i understand that following the bombardment, whoever is left alive will be allowed to vote.
I can't see for the life of me why all of you are deriding ovechkin for bringing this topic up! It is important and timely and of course important to a large segment of canadians because it is an important human rights issue that we are partly involved in (we support china just as much--probably more--than even israel making it an issue for canadian activists just the same), also there are many canadians who were at one time chinese or tibetan.
And while i agree that BDS is to be initiated by the people in the country that is the target, that doesn't preclude discussing it on a messageboard.
Sorry I thought I was discussing the issue. But since you disagree I guess I should shut up and allow the concensus. You would have done well in the Puritan town hall system.
Yes the people of Tripoli will get an election just like the Afghans and Iraqi's had last year. I would laugh if that wasn't the true and pathetic reality of what the lives of the citizens of Tripoli will buy. A choice between vicious warlords and corrupt fanatics to lead a goverment under the complete control of the IMF and NATO. I would not trade the life of one person for that vote.
Canada Canada how many kids have we killed today. Human rights in my view includes the right not to bombed during regime changes but I know that is way to radical to discuss in the Canada. Lets talk about how Nepal will not allow an election on their territory for a government in exile. That is far more germane and relevant at this moment in history?
I agree there is no comparison between the Chinese actions in Nepal and the actions of NATO and it R2P doctrine. One is evil and the other is democracy in action. Rah rah all hail western homogeny. Boycott all non-NATO countries we know they all have human rights issues.
As atrocities go, what happened last week in Nepal was at the low end of the scale.
China prevailed upon a friendly government (Nepal) to stop some 20,000 Tibetans resident there from voting in an unofficial election for a prime-minister-in-exile of a shadow foreign government that Nepal does not recognize as legitimate.
Nepal didn't throw them in jail, the way Stephen Harper wants to do with refugees in Canada.
In any event, the right of non-citizen residents to participate in an unofficial vote for a shadow government of a foreign country is hardly a fundamental human right. What Nepal did pales in comparison, for example, to Florida's disenfranchisement of tens of thousands of African-Americans in 2000 in the election for their own president.
The head of the shadow government, the Dalai Lama, reacted through a representative: "We believe that we should follow the law of the land where we have sought refuge." No call for a BDS campaign, or a no-fly zone. Just a recognition that when you seek refuge in a country that is friendly with the government of your home country, you might not be permitted to engage in activities that tend to undermine the legitimacy of the government in your homeland.
I'm not saying what Nepal did was right, but it's hardly worth trying to equate it with Israel's treatment of the Palestinians.
i don't think anyone is equating it, but just saying if you can see why israels treatment of palestinians is wrong, you can also see injustice in the way china has treated tibetans. personally, i'm more concerned about israel/palestine, but if someone else is focusing on tibet, i'll support that.
Quoting the Dalai Lama actually only serves to make the Nepalese authorities look worse, since Tibetans had given their assurance that they would follow the law and not hold elections. Despite this, the Nepalese army closed down their monasteries and placed Tibetans under house arrest on the days of the elections. Tibetans in Nepal have no right to vote, no right to work, no right to an education and, worst of all, no right to leave the country. I know its not as sexy as dropping bombs on them, but as part of an overall pattern of the systematic genocide of the Tibetan people, it might be newsworthy.
"Just a recognition that when you seek refuge in a country that is friendly with the government of your home country, you might not be permitted to engage in activities that tend to undermine the legitimacy of the government in your homeland."
M. Spector, would you deny a refugee in this country the freedom of assembly, or the right to protest, or commemorate atrocities in his/her history on the grounds that it delegitimizes the authority of place from which they are fleeing?
I'm really amazed by the ignorance around and the (mis)characterization of the Tibetan struggle in this thread.
The Tibetan people have been called separatists and dissidents (I wonder if we would ever discuss our First Nations peoples this way).
China's funding of and influence over an army that routinely uses bullies, intimidates and uses its force against the Tibetan people is referred to a "diplomatic muscle" or my favourite as "prevailing upon".
"Oh say there old chap", says China. "May I prevail upon you to assist me in my genocidal ambitions?"
I mean if this isn't yet sexy enough for you, I could start going through the history of massacre and atrocity. But I won't. I'll finish with a story by the Dalai Lama. A monk friend of his had been imprisoned in a Chinese gulag and after 16 years was reunited with the Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama asked him to recount his experiences there and the monk revealed that there were some really scary and dangerous moments. The Dalai Lama imagines scenes of torture, of malnutrition, of disease only to hear the monk say that there were a couple of times when her feared allowing himself to feel hate for his captors. This is called compassion.
M. Spector, would you deny a refugee in this country the freedom of assembly, or the right to protest, or commemorate atrocities in his/her history on the grounds that it delegitimizes the authority of place from which they are fleeing?
I doubt if M.Spector would but Canada sure does just ask Tamil refugees or Chinese migrants fleeing the same regime as the Tibetans did. Hell in Australia their gulags for Tamils were off shore.
The Tibetan people have been called separatists and dissidents (I wonder if we would ever discuss our First Nations peoples this way).
You are now getting disingenuous. I parodied your post and told you that. Quite frankly I said nothing about the Tibetan people themselves. You are talking about the treatment of Nepalese Tibetans if you use Canadian settler culture terminology. Many of the people demanding the right to chose a government for Tibet have never set foot in the country. Some of the young people were raised by parents who themselves have never been in Tibet. I wonder how the Tibetans fell about their expat cousins' supporters calling for a BDS campaign.
I think gulags are wrong whether they are in China or Guantanamo or Kingston. Locking people up without a proper trial where the "evidence" against them is not discoverable by the defence and accusers can't be cross examined is tyranny. I agree and will support your campaign against that continuing in Canada.
China's funding of and influence over an army that routinely uses bullies, intimidates and uses its force against the Tibetan people is referred to a "diplomatic muscle" or my favourite as "prevailing upon".
Who funds and influences the Honduran army, the Columbian army, the Egyptian army, the Saudi army, the Israeli army, the Jordanian army, the Iraqi army, the Pakistani army, the Indian army, the Yemen army. Should we start campaigns against heir backers since it is clear they all routinely bully, intimidate and use force against their own people.
I think calling for economic warfare against a country is a very big step and the Nepalese treatment of its Tibetan refugees is nasty but pretty much the norm around the world.
No rights!!! Tell me about the rights of temporary workers in oil rich states. I would welcome a BDS campaign against Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and Qatar and Bahrain for their treatment of of foreign workers from third world countries but alas they are our allies and can do no wrong.
