Hello all,
I read this board frequently so I'm sure some of you might be keen on the idea of trying to go to CPC events, given the press it's getting now.
I suddenly feel like going to as many CPC events as I have time for! I'm at least going to register for as many as possible. I wanna see my PM!
How privileged I'll feel to get in. And how catered to when I get thrown out!
A local staff issue? I say, let's make those CPC bouncers earn their due.
Dear Moderators and Babblers,
My previous handle, "conservative contempt" is obviously too long, so I have re-registered as contempt4cpc.
It's an interesting idea. But if I have to change my Facebook profile pic to show me embracing Michael Ignatieff just in order to get kicked out, it might be too high a price to pay.
I could photoshop something for you Unionist, if that would work better.
Feeling a little nauseous. Just took a look at the Conservative website. Particularly appalling was the title "Ethnic media round table." What is the word "ethnic" supposed to distinguish? Who is NOT ethnic?
Almost as appalling is the video of the fuhrer with that little 10-year old "ethnic" girl with the great voice, wassername. What's appalling about the image and the video is that fuhrer is inside the frame.
For my next foray, I will go in and join "Tory Nation." But I have to wait for my stomach to settle down first.
For anyone who wants to do this, bring gravol.
P.S. I smell a something.
Amazing that this is NOT affecting the Reform Party's numbers...Amazing.
Basically they are proving that they are one of the MOST partisan governments in the history of Canada.
They are blatantly showcasing contempt to anyone who is not on board with them.
I think those of us at rabble are very much aware of how they banned dissenting views in the way of firing those or defunding organizations that were not on board with them or their agenda.
But now they are manhandling citizens who happen to MAYBE,possibly be in agreement with the opposition?
How are they getting away with this?
What we are witnessing is the death of Canada and 'Canadians' are willfully participating in it.
Check out my music video. Download it, link it, send it to whoever you like. We have to do something to help people understand what a menace this guy is and the danger our country is in if we don't rid ourselves of him while we have the opportunity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O0bb9slpD4
Check out my music video. Download it, link it, send it to whoever you like. We have to do something to help people understand what a menace this guy is and the danger our country is in if we dont' rid ourselves of him while we have the opportunity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O0bb9slpD4
Hey Unionist, and all, you see what I'm suggesting here?
If we all start showing up, or just registering, or just talking about registering and showing up at CPC events, it's going to give the CPC gestapo goons at the door more work to do. More facebook pages to stalk.
If people start doing this, I figure the gestapo will have two choices: work harder at being undemocratic (and hopefully being exposed more in the media), or let the rabble in to CPC events. I hope this raises their blood pressure.
They themselves have put themselves in this position. It's up to non-cons to take advantage of this weak situation Harper and the CPC have made for themselves. Take along your videocameras, batteries charged.
Are the common people allowed to see their great leader, and maybe ask a few questions from the heart?
RogueJustice, welcome to babble. Great song! Is that you singing? Great voice too.
alan, I agree. This is an appalling level of social control that should be freaking everyone the fuck out.
But now they are manhandling citizens who happen to MAYBE,possibly be in agreement with the opposition?
Who is the "opposition"???????
Canadians have to stop using this word to refer to any party that is not Conservative.
There is NO OPPOSITION during an election campaign!!!!!
There are four/five/three (something like that) major parties that legitimately want to form a GOVERNMENT during an election campaign. (I'm shouting at the Harper propaganda use of the word "opposition", not anyone on this board).
Please, let's stop using the word "opposition" to refer to parties that are not the CPC.
RogueJustice, welcome to babble. Great song! Is that you singing? Great voice too.
Yeah, no kidding - and I love the guitar work too! He has an older song up, "Like a Little Child", which is quite hauntingly lovely as well.
Now, back to stalking Stephen Harper...
Amazing that this is NOT affecting the Reform Party's numbers...Amazing.
I'm hoping that on the ground, it is going to start having an effect, regardless of what the polls say. Forget the polls, I say, just keep campaigning.
[P.S. Still silently hoping for a "welcome to babble" from Maysie, who is waiting to see if I turn out to be a troll. May my posts assure you that I am not!]
Hey contempt. Interesting thread.
I don't think there's any CPC rallies planned for Toronto, given the huge party they had here last June. Fuckers.
And I don't think I could stomach going to one, even for the dubious thrill of being thrown out because of my "Left Wing Pinko" button. And I ain't posting any pics of Iggy on FB either. Ick.
[P.S. Still silently hoping for a "welcome to babble" from Maysie, who is waiting to see if I turn out to be a troll. May my posts assure you that I am not!]
Welcome to babble!
Maysie, Unionist, thanks! Nice to be here. Sorry I didn't start in the introductions thread. Signing up was a spur of the moment thing.
I waited at a rally for Mulroney once, but got tired of his being late, and got tired of hanging around the atmosphere created by his supporters, so I left. But I didn't have to pre-register or show ID at the door. I was free to see what he and his party were all about, and I was happy to be able to live in a democracy that allowed me to shop around like that. These days are different.
I just hope people see the logic of testing the CPC's democratic credentials (while stressing out their goons) by trying to get into their events. Even just by registering. Activism! Everyone do it at your local level!
CRIMINALS WANTED!!!
POSITIONS AVAILABLE IN:
MINIMUM FIVE CONVICTIONSOR ONE RCMP INVESTIGATION REQUIRED
BRING PROOF OF CONVICTIONSOR INVESTIGATION TO A RALLY NEAR YOU
You don't know what you're asking!
My Reform/Alliance/PCeaters (No way am i going to let them have the name of Dief's party!) candidate is Larry Miller. Did you find mayor Ford unlovable? You know nothing of fatheadedness till you've met our Larry.
The Cons are already making their own bad publicity, they don't need our help.
In my most humble opinion, there are many more productive venues for the left, or its reasonable facsimile the NDP, can and should be doing rather than wasting time "causing trouble" and "getting thrown out" of Conservative rallies. That ain't activism.
And I still smell something.
Having been inside several big Tory, Reform and Socred gatherings legitimately in a non-partisan capacity (including one time in Vancouver with a huge protest rally raging outside) it is not something I'd be interested in doing for spite or giggles.
Besides, after hearing Harper's response today about chucking people out, I would agree with Maysie that they are best left to hang themselves.
Besides, mobbing their rallies is a tactic they would certainly blame on their opposition conspiracy theory, and turn to their advantage.
They made the mess; best not to jump in there with them.
I've got no problem playing agent provocatuer at some Con rallies...Is the intent showing up to be kicked out, or doing the hyper support ala Colbert...like showing up at a "pro-life" rally with a sign that says "your body our choice, down with womans rights!"?
Stephen Harper's comment on restricting people from Tory rallies.
"I think it is better when you are turning people away than when you can't get people to come," Harper said. "But I don't want to comment on individual cases."
ARROGANT PRICK.
I agree Maysie that this smells a little off. It seems that promoting more people to pre-register than can fill the venues means they have their excuse for control and proof of their popularity.
But if you have to then sign up and wear a shirt that says, "Embrace the Rapture Nuke Iran" I think that would be appropriate and likely cause a moral dilemma for their security people.
....They are blatantly showcasing contempt to anyone who is not on board with them.
I think those of us at rabble are very much aware of how they banned dissenting views in the way of firing those or defunding organizations that were not on board with them or their agenda.
But now they are manhandling citizens who happen to MAYBE,possibly be in agreement with the opposition?
How are they getting away with this?
What we are witnessing is the death of Canada and 'Canadians' are willfully participating in it.
dear al, as a babbler do you not see a large dollop of irony in your claims?
I don't roscoe.
Rabble/babble is not a democracy, nor is it representing ALL Canadians.
Nor does it pretend to want to...
ETA: oh yeah, what I wanted to say was only a CONservative would come up with such a bone headed idea as to ask us to waste our time going to Harper's events.
I suspect the reason it is being asked here, is as someone indicated above, the Harper brain trust trying to justify their actions hind sightedly.
If this idea isn't getting any traction, fair enough. Anyway, I did take a foray into the neo-con website, so here for your info is what I wrote up earlier:
I'm in.....Tory Nation.....initial nausea overcome, getting quickly past the initial H---er images was key...fortunately I can scroll this next page down to hide the fuhrer's gaze...here I see my alias's "dashboard"...the Torynation website's macho gimmicky name for "profile page." (I suppose "profile" has other connotations in Torynation, that's why we need all those new prisons...)
Here on my "dashboard" is a thermometer to measure the funds that I've raised, exactly like the one the United Way uses. What kind of rewards do I get for raising money? It's reminiscent of a pyramid scheme, like I've just joined Amway or something...
To the right of the thermometer, a list quantifying all my activities. Hmm, numbers to build up and make me feel good about myself? Like a good little salesperson, or infantryman, or prosyletizer. Something to brag about to my Conservative comrades. A basis of comparison, of competition. I suppose it can work, once Torynation has your brain:
Friends 0
Events hosted 0
Letters to the editor sent 0
Money raised 0.00
Groups joined 0
Friends recruited 0
Support letters signed 0
...looked for Stephen Harper on the "find friends (within Torynation)" page...not listed. Damn! Well it's not surprising...wonder how hot my thermometer has to get before they'll let me closer to the fuhrer...
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Sorry to give you all the creeps with this look into "torynation." Just wanted to share with you what I encountered in there.
You've posted two links so far, both to Tory-positive websites. Flowery leftist prose surrounding each link notwithstanding.
Hm.
Yeah, we have this thing around here where we already know what they're all about, without further need of visual reinforcement.
Actually I found it pretty interesting, in a creepy way (Harper I mean, not contempt4pc).
If s/he is a plant it's not like s/he's going to get many converts here. And if s/he were a plant I would think it was more to induce people to go troll the Harperist site. I think that would be a mistake because it's not something that would have any effect on the general public, and Harper would certainly blame it on the opposition. And if there were an online record pointing back here then he would have a bit of evidence of that "conspiracy".
But I think contempt4pc is legit, and I don't have a problem with any information being posted (unless it is clearly objectionable) so long as it is useful information . And seeing that Harper is using some sort of Amway brownie points system - and more importantly getting partisans to mob the press - is significant. I'm glad I didn't have to go sign up and give them my contact information to get it.
Although I might be accused of being overcautious myself, I think it is good to balance xenophobia with a critical look at opposition tactics.
One thing I find odd..... even though Harper's mug is up at the top of the page this seems to be the only thing they haven't re-branded. Maybe they thought "HarperNation" would be showing their hand a little too boldly.
On the other hand, our local candidate's literature starts off with "Stephen Harper has given familise *blah blah blah*". Why would they shy away from it on an internal website?
I've posted video from when I went to a CPC event to talk to my local candidate.
A terra1st sighting! How have you been?
I've been really well, al-Qa'bong.
PM me (or join the facebook group -link is on the video - and grab a sign) so we can chat in person sometime. It's only been, what, 5 years? :-) Or are you even in Saskatoon anymore?
And what did you think of the video?
I'm still here...and still spinning wax on the mighty and terrible CFCR.
The intro to the video was a bit long, but the interview was informative. Ms. Block sounds as phoney as a three-dollar bill, which you did a good job of bringing out.
Yeah, I wanted the library voices song in there, then had to work with that timeline. I also wanted to build the narrative of conservatives hiding during/before elections. I think that the best part of the interview was when she said "no, we can't talk during the election" and refused to give an answer in the meantime. What exactly is a voter supposed to base their decision on, right?
Nice that you're still at 90.5. I gave up doing my show years ago... it conflicted with my family life too much.
Dear Moderators and Babblers,
My previous handle, "conservative contempt" is obviously too long, so I have re-registered as contempt4cpc.
While you clearly disagree with the party, why would have "contempt" for a party that a huge number of Canadians vote for? Does that not mean you have contempt for those voters too?
And why would you want to disrupt cpc events? does that not demonstrate the same contempt, but for the democratic process itself? just wondering.
I think that the best part of the interview was when she said "no, we can't talk during the election" and refused to give an answer in the meantime. What exactly is a voter supposed to base their decision on, right?
I forwarded your video to a couple of friends who live in Caswell Hill, and who have been complaining about Kelly Block's Howard Hughes act for years. They liked it. Their Kelly Block impressions were pretty funny, too. After hearing Block speak, it's easy to see why Harper doesn't want her seen in public.
That leaves the question; how could such an airhead beat a solid, impressive candidate like Nettie Wiebe?
I wish I knew. Far too many lower income and lower middle class people in the riding seem absolutely determined to vote against their own socio-economic interests... it really has me baffled.
There's that, and there's also gerrymandering. It seems the city vote is swamped by rural voters, who for reasons of their own choose Conservatives.
The campaign signs I see on my 25-minute bike ride to work really illustrate how warped the electoral map is. I start in Blackstrap, go through Saskatoon Humboldt, and end up in Saskatoon-Rosetown-Biggar. I see a couple of Liberal signs, a few more Conservative signs, and a ton of NDP signs, yet we never have NDP representation. Why can't the area along my bike route all be in one riding? It would take me all day to ride out to Dafoe at one end of my riding (it's a two-hour drive; I've done my bike route in seven minutes by car), and another day to get to the other edges of Blackstrap. This makes no sense to me.
Yes the prairie seats have been gerrymandered to swamp the urban voices. If they had two Saskatoon seats at least one would be NDP but not when you put city voters into four seats as a minority in each. Do any of the parties talk about fixing that electoral problem?
I went to a Harper rally, just to prove I could. 
The party hacks needed repeated reminders that they could not touch me (must stop touching me, in fact), and a sidewise look to see where the closest police officers were, and a warning that if they continued to press up against me I would yell into the media mikes nearby. They finally got the message.
I don't get why people can be 'hustled out'. Do they actually let those creeps touch them and NOT call the cops?
Very strange that Harper is looking for more votes by invitation only.
Won't be able to get to them all as some Conservative events are secret and private, eh!
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