April 8-9: Libya Selected Articles, Analysis and News - by William Bowles
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24250
Libya XI
Sun, 2011-04-10 13:46
#102
Sun, 2011-04-10 16:48
#103
Wow!!! Talking about taking a quote out of context. You said "But babble is filled with all kinds of links to quotes from actual Holocaust promoters and participants, traitors and other scumbags" and I was referring to that, not whether the USA and its CIA used former 3rd Reich types. Given that my previous point was about that we should not use sources who are conspiracy theorists, etc that should have been clear.
I am referring to babble and who we should use as sources.
I am not sure if that is true ...
It's true. And then after the corporate sponsored war of annihilation against Soviet communism finally ended by 1945, the US and Brits essentially reconstructed Hitler's intel agency to run the spy ops out of West Germany, run false flag operations and commit acts of terrorism both sides of the iron curtain. Today Anglela Merkel and that government are trying to avoid the spotlight on former Nazis still lurking in Germany's BND -successors to Heinrich Himmler's SS. They were caught red-handed bombing an embassy in Kosovo three years ago at a time when NATO's role there in the eastern edge of Europe was questioned.
And that old Hollywood movie, Marathon Man, with Dustin Hoffman? It was a lot worse than that. Our cold war era political leaders welcomed THOUSANDS of Nazi war criminals into North America and Latin America with open arms knowing full well who they were.
Sun, 2011-04-10 17:27
#104
Wow!!! Talking about taking a quote out of context. You said "But babble is filled with all kinds of links to quotes from actual Holocaust promoters and participants, traitors and other scumbags" and I was referring to that, not whether the USA and its CIA used former 3rd Reich types. Given that my previous point was about that we should not use sources who are conspiracy theorists, etc that should have been clear.
I am referring to babble and who we should use as sources.
Tarpley's fine with me. He is an oligarchologist historian and critic of US policies. What's your real beef with political dissenters and dissidents alike? Should they be thrown in a gulag at Gitmo for speaking out against the CIA's secret prisons for illegal detention and torture dotting the globe?
The links between the American CIA and al-Qaeda are well established. Even the CIA admits they created and then aided and abetted al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups during their 1980s-90s war covert against secular socialism in Central Asia. This is historical fact not conspiracy theory. And it is no secret today that the American CIA and their gladio friends are training and arming al-Qaeda in Libya. Areas where the rebels come from in Libya are also well known Qaeda hotspots. Gadhafi thought that he was working with the west to fight a global war on terror. But the reality is that it's a phony war on terror. al-Qaeda - al-CIA'da all the while.
Sun, 2011-04-10 17:30
#105
No I am more than fine with criticism of the US so long as it comes from a good reputable source. Tarpley is a conspiracy theorist and using him makes any argument that much weaker and moreover he does not deserve promotion.
There should be a sharp distinction between institutional analysis (ie Chomsky, Shalom, Fisk, Finklestein, Herman, Albert) and conspiracy theorists (ie Alex Jones, Tarpley, LaRouche). The former encourages thinking, the latter passivity and incoherence.
Really, should I even have to bring this up here?
Sun, 2011-04-10 18:01
#106
Chomsky doesn't believe that GWOT is real either. He says he's not exactly sure why Canada's vicious toadies in Ottawa sent Canada's colonial troop force to Afghanistan. Chomsky does say that he believes it has nothing to do with pursuing al-Qaeda though.
And if you think that 9/11 was not an inside job, then you must be under the false impression that al-Qaeda represents a standalone foreign threat to US National Security since at least 9/11/01. The 9/11 Omission Cover-up made no mention of the US Government's various shady dealings with al-Qaeda terrorists in different parts of the world for many years leading up to 9/11 and even since then.
The CIA and Brits are aiding and abetting al-Qaeda in Libya today. They have admitted this as well.
[url=http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/76789,news-comment,news-politics,alexander... rebels: Gaddafi could be right about al-Qaeda[/url]
IOWs, there is more evidence pointing to the real possibility that 9/11 was another CIA-Military black operation, a covert intelligence operation that was basically designed as a sales job by the US Military and CIA for the benefit of Congress and US taxpayers who have been footing the bills for the nuclear-armed militarized state since the 1940s and 50s. They need enemies whether real or imaginary, and since 1991, the enemies have been mostly imaginary.
No I am more than fine with criticism of the US so long as it comes from a good reputable source. Tarpley is a conspiracy theorist and ...
The 9/11 Omission cover-up is pure conspiracy theory. Secret evidence and government secrecy is shit. This is the same logic that the Spanish and Catholic and then Roman-Catholic inquisitions were built on in order to prop-up corrupt and oppressive regimes in power for centuries at a time. It's kaka. Illegal renditions and tortured confessions are not considered legal evidence outside the realm of the American inquisition hiding behind their own military tribunals. They are hiding the truth about 9/11.
Sun, 2011-04-10 23:26
#107
The people of Iraq are protesting against the invader/illegitimate ruler.
A demonstration against the American invasion is held each April 9, the anniversary of the fall of Baghdad in 2003 and the date when Iraqis, with the help of American Marines, pulled down a statue of the dictator Saddam Hussein in Firdos Square in Baghdad.
Posters that proclaimed "Down with America" were distributed to the crowds, and some people burned American flags and chanted slogans like "Get out! Get out! America the great devil!" Others spoke of their "religious duty" to "expel the occupier."
But the event - an annual rite of the Shiite underclass loyal to Mr. Sadr - took on more political importance this year because it came amid the debate here and in Washington about whether American troops will leave on schedule by the end of the year or stay on in some capacity. The departure date was set by a security agreement that binds both countries.
"We want them to get out of the country," said Sheik Ahmed al-Hasnawi, one of the event's organizers. "It's the last year for them."
US warplanes, in their ever-vigilant campaign to bring democracy to the Middle East, are reportedly shooting themselves down in support of the Iraqis.
Mon, 2011-04-11 00:00
#108
Libya Rebels Had NATO Weapons From Day 1 (and vid)
http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2011/04/libya-rebels-had-nato-weapons-day-1
"Libyan 'rebels' from the Feb. 17 armed coup attempt to overthrow the Libyan government had brand new weapons since the first day of the uprising. These weapons were of non-Libyan origin and had already been secretly imported into Libya in advance of Feb. 17..."
Mon, 2011-04-11 02:46
#109
Gaddafi Accepts Ceasefire: AU Mediator
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/174157.html
"South African President Jacob Zuma says the embattled Libyan ruler Muammar Gaddafi has accepted the African Union's roadmap for a ceasefire to end the war in Libya. An AU mediation delegation held talks with Gaddafi's team on Sunday about a peace plan to put an end to the conflict, AFP reported.."
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