Tobold if you really want to stir things up here tell the social democrats that symbolically breaking windows is effective. I'll guarantee you that idea would also earn you the same hazing treatment. The people on this board who feel the sense of seniority entitlement are primarily social democrats who honestly believe anyone who doesn't think like them is either a fool or a right wing plant. They are far from apathetic but quite narrow in their acceptance of minority opinions.
This whole thread has not had a single real argument but consists of a group mud wrestling contest. If Sean and the other attack dogs hadn't participated in this thread it would have been 5 post long at best. Go ahead keep feeding the cause (or troll as you claim) that has you so upset I find it hilarious. Instead of one short thread that died of APATHY it just goes on and on and on in a circle that has no end. Good defence. LOL