"To most of the world, we are the terrorists"

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"To most of the world, we are the terrorists"

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3oziRJ46k0&feature=player_embedded#at=450

Please watch all ten minutes before you comment.

humanity4all

I hope you are not expecting a reaction from one of the most violent society on the planet! Most people inhabiting this part of the world are more interested in shopping,hockey, were their next package holiday is coming form and which bottle of wine they are going to purchase, from their local alcholic outlet!

The fact that their armed forces are killing some of the most poorest people in the world is off their agenda. There are many other reasons why, this society, here in North America, is one of the most violent in the world. I can go on and on, however, most of the world knows the history of this continent!

I will give one example. When a people has been hit by an eathquake and most of its people are buried. The last thing such a society needs, I MEAN' THE LAST THING IT NEEDS, LET ME REPEAT IT' IN CASE YOU MISSED IT! I SAY AGAIN' THE LAST THING IT NEEDS: Two frigates, filled with marines, after two weeks of the earthquake. YOU HAVE TO BE QUITE PSYCHOLOGIACLLY SICK AS A SOCIETY TO RESPOND LIKE THIS!!!!!!!! At that moment, the people buried under the rubble need sniffer dogs,doctors,food,medicine and so on...

I could go on and on, however, what do you expect from a society, when its ancestors offered help to the owners of these lands in the form of blankets with smallpox! Violence is the culture of these new arrivals, although they think of themselves, that the whole world loves them. As I have said before, it would very funny, however, these societies in the west are killing many hundreds of peoples daily! The scariest thing is that they all think that they are nice people, spending their days at the mall.

You should be ashamed of your selves and your children. Most of us really know who you are!

By the way, for all you christians, happy easter.

humanity4all

Ah yes, I hope you loyal subjects enjoy the wedding.

RosaL

That's a pretty good video. I think maybe she's wrong to blame the entire American people. Most of them have very little say. Many of them are poor people struggling to survive. I suppose people are somewhat responsible if they're deluded by the propaganda or just don't care, preferring to spend their time - as you say - at the mall. But part of that is ignorance, a meaningless existence, and a fairly realistic sense of helplessness. Surely the people responsible are those who run things - the people who have wealth and power, who decide what happens and even what people perceive as reality. 

But it's a good video. 

humanity4all

In essence I agree with what you are saying, however, I have the following difficulties. Most people you speak too in the "free" countries believe that their societies are based on this concept, that is , freedom. Okay, if we accept this premise, these societies are accountable for what their wealthy and powerful do. One recent example to mind. When there is a manifestation against war in a canadian city of approximately three million people and approximately  two hundred people march against war, I have to conclude, that this "free" society is practically unamiously for killing other people. The other fact that supports what I am saying, this crowd of two hundred people were accompanied by twenty police cars. Please do not get me wrong, the twenty police cars were not part of the manifestation!

I can accept your argument in most places in the world, were people's lives are threatened if they protest, so they accept the status quo. However, I cannot accept that in the western countries, the socieites have no choice.  You cannot have it both ways.

Anyway, for me, what makes these socities more dispicable then the rest of the world, is the on going hippocracy of its population. It is not that they are  any better or worse as people, however, for most people looking at these countries or experiencing the citizens of these countries when they take their hoildays, we see this hippocracy and it is just very, very sad for humanity. It breaks our hearts. We all know that these societies in the west face the everyday problems that we all face, that is, worrying about the development of their children,health issues, anxieties about love with their partners, economic problems.

What we cannot understand, is why they give their permission and support to their armies to bomb to oblivion socities that none of you will ever come into contact with!

humanity4all

In essence I agree with what you are saying, however, I have the following difficulties. Most people you speak too in the "free" countries believe that their societies are based on this concept, that is , freedom. Okay, if we accept this premise, these societies are accountable for what their wealthy and powerful do. One recent example to mind. When there is a manifestation against war in a canadian city of approximately three million people and approximately  two hundred people march against war, I have to conclude, that this "free" society is practically unamiously for killing other people. The other fact that supports what I am saying, this crowd of two hundred people were accompanied by twenty police cars. Please do not get me wrong, the twenty police cars were not part of the manifestation!

I can accept your argument in most places in the world, were people's lives are threatened if they protest, so they accept the status quo. However, I cannot accept that in the western countries, the socieites have no choice.  You cannot have it both ways.

Anyway, for me, what makes these socities more dispicable then the rest of the world, is the on going hippocracy of its population. It is not that they are  any better or worse as people, however, for most people looking at these countries or experiencing the citizens of these countries when they take their hoildays, we see this hippocracy and it is just very, very sad for humanity. It breaks our hearts. We all know that these societies in the west face the everyday problems that we all face, that is, worrying about the development of their children,health issues, anxieties about love with their partners, economic problems.

What we cannot understand, is why they give their permission and support to their armies to bomb to oblivion socities that none of you will ever come into contact with!

RosaL

I pretty much agree with you, too. But I don't accept the premise you refer to although I realize most people in the societies we are talking about do. It's in the interest of those who rule that they believe that it is they (the people) who actually hold power. That doesn't make it true, though. And many people have some awareness that it's not true.

I don't understand either. I agree - they should protest. They should rise up. But I don't think we can conclude that support for the actions of the wealthy and the powerful is nearly unanimous. Many people disagree - I know this from talking to people - but they don't know what to do about it. I think we need to appeal to these people and try to convince them to join us against those who truly wield power in the world. We need to show them some possibilities of effective action. (I haven't noticed that demonstrations are particularly effective. Millions can demonstrate and it makes no difference. People know that.)

It breaks my heart, too. 

clandestiny

Well, if it's any consolation, they're members of a DOOMED species on a DYING planet. They lose by winning, and vice versa. And the 'passionately intense' are on a roll whilst the good lack all conviction! Too bad, but fact is facts. And...As out world dies about us, we lefties can savour the death of fascism- pop go the weasels! I know this is ridiculous, but ....GEEZUS h KERIST!

RosaL

clandestiny wrote:

Well, if it's any consolation, they're members of a DOOMED species on a DYING planet. They lose by winning, and vice versa. And the 'passionately intense' are on a roll whilst the good lack all conviction! Too bad, but fact is facts. And...As out world dies about us, we lefties can savour the death of fascism- pop go the weasels! I know this is ridiculous, but ....GEEZUS h KERIST!

I agree things look pretty bad. But I have to say your point eludes me.