The Afghan People Will Win Part 23

Military Changes Tune on Post 2011 Mission Again

http://embassymag.ca/page/view/kabul-03-02-2011

"The details of this new mission need to be spelled out clearly to the public by the government, not leaked out at a conference of defence lobbyists, said Stephen Staples. With the addition of Canadian trainers, the international training mission will comprise roughly 5,000 troops. Canada will become the second-largest contributor after the United States.

Defence critics have chastised the government for going back on its word to deploy no military forces in Afghanistan past 2011.."

RT: Foreign Forces Are Fighting Each Other in Afghanistan And Don't Want to Stop (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/us-nato-afghanistan-war/

"The west realized that the Taliban no longer did its bidding, they began ruling the country without asking for a go-ahead from those who had brought them into being. This is why, taking advantage of September 11, Washington decided to bomb Kandahar and topple the Taliban regime.

If we look closely at Afghanistan's history, we'll see that all armed movements here in some way or other are created solely by the Afghan people. They call the Taliban any people that pursue an armed struggle with the local Afghan authorities and with the international forces. This confrontation isn't confined to the Taliban alone. It may involve Al-Qaeda and Hekmatyar's people, and some regular forces. But since in this matter they have identical interests, namely, they fight against the coalition and the local government, everybody calls them the Taliban.."

MalalaiJoya.com, 2010 wrote:

The Afghan government has been in face-to-face peace talks with Taliban leaders, with NATO securing their passage to the capital. This is leaving many Afghans to wonder what kind of peace they can expect.

A group of around 350 clerics, who met in August this year to discuss reconciliation, called for Hamid Karzai to establish strict Islamic law with punishments similar to those implemented under the Taliban. In a 10-point resolution they said: “The lack of implementation of sharia hudud (punishment) has cast a negative impact on the peace process.”

Afghan clerics urging Karzai to implement sharia hudud in paving the way to sharing power with the USA's "former" proxies, the Taliban. Afghans afraid that the Taliban will be welcomed into Kabul with open arms by their brothers in creed in Kabul, the pro mujahideen government with a few "ex-Taliban" led by current US stooge Hamid Karzai.

Oh the Yanks have invested in too much real estate to leave now. Over 700 bases spread across Afghanistan. The Taliban are going to cause armies from 29 or 30 countries to suddenly run for the hills? A repeat of the emergency evacuation from Ho Chi Minh City? The Vietnamse were able to supply hundreds of thousands of fighters and were replaced as fast as they were mowed down by the invaders. The Afghan Taliban themselves number in the tens of thousands. Neither side in this phony war on terror will force surrender of the other. Not soon.

Here is another indication that the Brits and their American friends may be closing in on a power sharing deal with their old friends and business partners in murdering and oppressing Afghans, the Taliban.  [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefrontline/8355902/Britis... troops on front line in Afghanistan told they face the sack[/url] Almost the entire contingent of Britain’s 10,000 troops in Afghanistan have been told they could be sacked within months after ministers disclosed plans to get rid of one in 10 members of the Armed Forces.

Justice Remains Elusive for Many at US Prison in Afghanistan

http://warisacrime.org/content/justice-remains-elusive-many-us-prison-af...

"In the summer of 2008, the United States military captured a 16 year old Pakistani boy and imprisoned him at the Bagram air base in Afghanistan. According to his lawyers, for over a year his family had no idea where he was. The US military judges had admitted lacking any evidence against him and recommended he be returned home to his family in Pakistan. Months later he remains imprisoned at the US detention facility in Afghanistan. Hamidullah Khan is not alone.."

why we fight

AFP: The War is Killing Afghanistan's Children. Enough!

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/03/08-6?nocache=1

"Careful examination of numerous reports and images/video footage, along with eye-witness and victim testimonies, clarify that Afghan civilians are the main targets of deadly attacks by North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and International Security Assistance Force (ISAF). Although the Coalition forces claim that previous civilian massacres were accidental, Afghan-led peace movements believe that the killings are at best negligent to at worst intentional...

Foreign military presence and intevention in the past 10 years has worsened the Afghanistan situation while civilian casualties have increasingly created tension between the Coalition forces, the Afghan government, and the people of Afghanistan.

Mohammed Bismal, the brother of two boys killed, did not care for General Petraeus's apology but said, 'The only option I have is to pick up Kalashnikov, RPG or a suicide vest to fight. The father of two of the boys killed cried, 'They don't value humanity and don't care about our children!'

A global protest against the war in Afghanistan will be held this April 9, 10, 2011. "

Tell all political candidates you will not vote for them unless they resolve to end the war and bring ALL troops home. Their shameful acquiescence to this war's 10 year span is unforgiveable. Out of Afghanistan! Out of NATO! Now!

http://www.now.ca/ - for more info on the internnational Afghan solidarity demo near you

[url=http://www.ndp.ca/press/afghan-docs-committee-producing-no-documents][co...Afghan docs committee producing no documents[/color][/url] Liberals and Bloc failing to hold Harper to account – no documents yet released

The Effective Opposition NDP wrote:

OTTAWA – It has been one year to the day since Parliament reconvened after being prorogued to prevent the release of documents on Afghan detainee torture. Unfortunately, as predicted by New Democrats, the Committee has been silent and Canadians are no closer to finding the truth about these troubling allegations.

“The Conservatives prorogued Parliament to prevent MPs from gaining access to these documents. Exactly one year after Parliament reconvened, we are still in the dark,” said NDP Defence Critic Jack Harris, MP for St. John’s East. “The Committee hasn’t made a single document public, just like the Conservatives wanted. The Bloc and Liberals are taking part in a charade and making a mockery of the Speaker’s ruling – and Gilles Duceppe coming out with a toothless ultimatum now is laughable...

The four parties reached an agreement in principle in favour of a plan that would strike a fair balance between national security and the public’s right to know. However, the NDP refused to sign a deal after the Liberals and the Bloc agreed with the Conservatives to keep certain escape clauses in place. New Democrats warned these measures would allow the government to hijack the process and prevent necessary legal documents and Cabinet records from being made available to Parliament and the public.

Since then a cone of silence has descended on the process. “Our predictions are coming true,” said NDP Foreign Affairs Critic, Paul Dewar, MP for Ottawa Centre. “It is time for the Liberals and the Bloc to acknowledge that this committee has failed. A full public inquiry is the only way that we will ever know the truth.”

Liberals-Bloc-Harper coalition standing between Canadians and the truth about Afghan detainee torture.

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Duceppe says if the Bloc pulls out, the committee will lose credibility. He says the delay doesn't make sense because they were told it would be over by January. The committee's been meeting since last July.

NDP foreign affairs critic Paul Dewar says Duceppe is suffering buyer's remorse.

"They managed to play both the Liberals and the Bloc," he said.

Dewar says he doubts Canadians will see the documents any time soon.

"The Liberals huff and puff often and then they sit down, and I think that's what we're going to see again," Dewar said.

And it's no wonder the Liberals have hard time opposing the Harpers [url=http://news.sympatico.ctv.ca/home/liberal_mps_lead_in_absences_in_the_ho... they don't show up for work![/url]

New puppet for sure. Karzai is starting to get too independent

US Army 'Kill Team' in Afghanistan Posed with Pictures of Murdered Civilians

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/21/us-army-kill-team-afghanista...

"Commanders in Afghanistan are bracing themselves for possible riots and public fury triggered by the publication of 'trophy' photographs of defenceless Afghan civilians they killed. The case has already created shock around the world, particularly with the revelations that the men cut 'trophies' from the bodies of the people they killed. An investigation by Der Spiegel has unearthed approximately 4,000 photos and videos taken by the men.."

do the terms 'Sandtrap', 'JTF2' and 'improper killing' mean anything to you Canada? Maybe that's why it's being kept secret?

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/mar/30/kill-team... teams in Afghanistan: the truth[/url]

by Malalai Joya

The Guardian, Wednesday 30 March 2011

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The disgusting and heartbreaking photos published last week in the German media, and more recently in Rolling Stone magazine, are finally bringing the grisly truth about the war in Afghanistan to a wider public. All the PR about this war being about democracy and human rights melts into thin air with the pictures of US soldiers posing with the dead and mutilated bodies of innocent Afghan civilians.

I must report that Afghans do not believe this to be a story of a few rogue soldiers. We believe that the brutal actions of these "kill teams" reveal the aggression and racism which is part and parcel of the entire military occupation. While these photos are new, the murder of innocents is not. Such crimes have sparked many protests in Afghanistan and have sharply raised anti-American sentiment among ordinary Afghans.

I am not surprised that the mainstream media in the US has been reluctant to publish these images of the soldiers who made sport out of murdering Afghans. General Petraeus, now in charge of the American-led occupation, is said to place great importance on the "information war" for public opinion - and there is a concerted effort to keep the reality of Afghanistan out of sight in the US....

The "kill team" images will come as a shock to many outside Afghanistan but not to us. We have seen countless incidents of American and Nato forces killing innocent people like birds. For instance, they recently killed nine children in Kunar Province who were collecting firewood. In February this year they killed 65 innocent villagers, most of them women and children. In this case, as in many others, Nato claimed that they had only killed insurgents, even though local authorities acknowledged that the victims were civilians. To prevent the facts coming out they even arrested two journalists from al-Jazeera who attempted to visit and report from the site of the massacre....

Once you know all this, and once you have seen the "kill team" photos, you will understand more clearly why Afghans have turned against this occupation. The Karzai regime is more hated than ever: it only rules through intimidation, corruption, and with the help of the occupying armies. Afghans deserve much better than this.

However, this does not mean more Afghans are supporting the reactionary so-called resistance of the Taliban. Instead we are seeing the growth, under very difficult conditions, of another resistance led by students, women and the ordinary poor people of Afghanistan. They are taking to the streets to protest against the massacre of civilians and to demand an end to the war. Demonstrations like this were recently held in Kabul, Marzar-e-Sharif, Jalalabad and Farah.

This resistance is inspired by the movements in other countries like Egypt and Tunisia - we want to see "people power" in Afghanistan as well. And we need the support and solidarity of people in the Nato countries.

At least 12 people - including eight foreigners - are dead after demonstrators protesting the burning of the Muslim holy book by a U.S. pastor stormed a UN office in northern Afghanistan, opening fire on guards and setting fires inside the compound.

The topic of Qur'an burning stirred outrage among millions of Muslims and others worldwide after a small American church in Florida threatened to destroy the holy book last year. The Florida pastor had backed down but purportedly went through with the burning last month, prompting protests in three Afghan cities.

Munir Ahmad Farhad, a spokesman in Balkh province, said that the protest in Mazar-i-Sharif began peacefully Friday when several hundred demonstrators gathered outside the UN mission's compound to denounce the Qur'an's destruction.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/04/01/afghanistan.html

M. Spector wrote:

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/mar/30/kill-team... teams in Afghanistan: the truth[/url]

by Malalai Joya

The Guardian, Wednesday 30 March 2011

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The "kill team" images will come as a shock to many outside Afghanistan but not to us. We have seen countless incidents of American and Nato forces killing innocent people like birds. For instance, they recently killed nine children in Kunar Province who were collecting firewood. In February this year they killed 65 innocent villagers, most of them women and children. In this case, as in many others, Nato claimed that they had only killed insurgents, even though local authorities acknowledged that the victims were civilians. To prevent the facts coming out they even arrested two journalists from al-Jazeera who attempted to visit and report from the site of the massacre....

This brutal behaviour is very, very old.  The Governor of Massachusetts paid for the scalps of not only men but women and children when he proclaimed war against Acadia.  That kind of violence is deeply imbedded in the American psyche.  After all many young boys still growing up being taught Custer was a hero and the rapists in the Alamo didn't deserve what was coming to them.  Every era of American history has a "hero"with the blood of their "enemies" on their hands.  These guys probably thought they were just doing what they were supposed to do. 

Murdering In Afghanistan: Spiegel TV's 'Kill Team' Documentary

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,754554,00.html

"For months, the US Army kept the images compiled by the so-called 'kill team' under lock and key out of fear it could result in a scandal even greater than Abu Ghraib. Spiegel TV spent weeks researching the story behind the men of 5th Styker Brigade and how things could go so terribly wrong. Warning: this documentary contains extremely graphic content.."

your tax dollars at work Canada - your soldiers, who regularly operate with these soldiers, especially Special Ops, are likely into the same dark stuff. Please note the ongoing 'Sandbox' investigations, conducted in secrecy by DND, concern 'improper killing' by Canadian JTF2 personnel...

The Kill Team  -  by Mark Boal

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-kill-team-20110327

 Der Spiegel was the first to release a few of the 'kill team  photos last week. Now Rolling Stone has released more of the photos, uncensored, as well as clips from videos shared by members of the 'kill team'.

How US soldiers in Afghanistan murdered innocent civilians and mutilated their corpses - and how their officers failed to stop them.

Plus an exclusive look at the war crimes photos censored by the Pentagon"

The 'Deep State' Behind US Democracy - Interview with Peter Dale Scott

http://www.voltairenet.org/article169316.html

"After almost 2 years of the Obama presidency, I have to conclude, regretfully that the influence of the deep state, or what in my new book I call the American war machine, has continued to increase, just as it has under every US president since Kennedy.."

much much more poetry please...

Afghan Training Mission Headed for Volatile Area

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Afghan+training+mission+headed+volatil...

"Canada's troops going to city where UN workers killed

Canadian soldiers have already been on the ground in the area conducting reconnaissance for their mission. The Harper government had announced the training mission, to begin in the summer, not involve combat and would be centered in the capital city of Kabul. Defense Minister Peter MacKay approved the Mazar-i-Sharif deployment before the federal election was called..."

Judges' Panel Says Detainee Transfer Documents Won't Be Released In Campaign [therefore] Tories Open To Release

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/04/14/cv-election-afghan-detain...

"...The two judges at the centre of the documents screening process sent a letter to the three party leaders involved to inform them the records cannot be released when Parliament is not sitting...The documents are at teh centre of accusations that prisoners were tortured by Afghan authorities after being handed over by Canadian troops..."

how predictable, how convenient - and what about 'Sandtrap', JTF2 Special Forces and 'improper killings'? Back to sleep canucklheads..zzzz...

So far this weekend:

[url=http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2011/04/17/suicide_bombin... bombing on Afghan military base kills 10[/url]

[url=http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/bomb-kills-three-nato-soldiers-in-a... kills three NATO soldiers in southern Afghanistan[/url]

[url=http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/975562--suicide-bomber-hugs-th... bomber hugs, then kills, Kandahar police chief[/url]

We'd Be Smart To Start Listening To The Turks  -  by Scott Taylor

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Opinion/1238918.html

"...For those familiar with the deadly reality of Afghan insurgent tactics, it is already obvious that there is no such thing as a safe zone behind the wire. As for the proposed location of the new Canadian mission, word has leaked out that most of our personnel will be in the northern city of Mazar-e-Sharif, not Kabul..."

Hedging, Delusion and Dishonesty in Afghanistan - by John Grant

http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/571

"The Americans have not been honest about this, even among themnselves. Not being in Afghanistan has become unimaginable.."

'You Have To Show Up At Their Door...And Start Killing People' US/NATO Officer

http://www.answercoalition.org/national/news/us-surge-in-afghanistan.html

"You can't just convince them through projects and goodwill,' another Marine officer said. 'You have to show up at their door with two companies of Marines and start killing people. That's how you start convincing them..'

a little advice from our nato-nazi allies on winning hearts and minds in Afghanistan. Note to mujihideen - more IEDs for these ones please..

NATO is us.  We are collectively responsible.  Not even the NDP will raise this as a serious issue.  Will no one say that a role in training collaborators is a role in occupying a country?    

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He’s the universal soldier 
And he really is the blame
But his orders comes from 
far away no more.

They come from him. 
And you and me.
Oh, brothers can’t you see. 
This is not the way we put an end to war 

Hundreds of Taliban in Jail Tunnel Escape

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2011/04/201142525410649746.html

"Military commanders were among more than 500 Taliban fighters broken out of jail via a 320 metre long tunnel. A Taliban official on Monday also confirmed the overnight escape. 'They all made it safe to our centres and there was no fighting,' Yousuf Ahmadi, a Taliban spokesman said. Kandahar prison was also the scene of a mass hunger strike by hundreds of inmates in May 2008 during which 47 inmates sewed their lips shut after complaining they had been tortured and denied fair trials.."

Canada itself committed war crimes by knowingly handing over some of these Afghan POWs for torture. A coverup is ongoing and the issue is invisible in the campaigns of all parties this election.

saw the movie - but jailbreak stories are some of my favourites... I agree - invincible...now those 500 can get back to digging that big hole to bury this empire in...