Britain's Royal Wedding: A Celebration Of Dictatorship and Global Capitalism Over Democracy

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Fri, 2011-04-29 08:10

NDPP

Britain's Royal Wedding: A Big Day For The Global Oligarchy - by Finian Cunningham

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24538

"...But what should be appreciated from the display in Britain is the revelation - albeit unintended - of raw state power. Behind the translucent wedding veil, what can be seen is raw state power that blows away any vestige of illusions of parliamentary democracy,

illusions that are not just peculiar to Britain, but to all Western powers. In short, the empire of corporate and financial aristocracy that has emerged in late capitalism, is now asserting itself increasingly and more blatantly as a dictatorship of capital.

All political parties, whether Conservative, Liberal or Labour in Britain, or Republican, Democrat in the US, [Lib, Tory or NDP in Canada] are seen to be willing servants of this dictatorship..."

Fri, 2011-04-29 09:48

Snert

Sounds like [i]somebody[/i] didn't get an invite.

Fri, 2011-04-29 09:51

Caissa

LOL

Fri, 2011-04-29 10:08

N.Beltov

I really don't have the stomach for it but some of the long shots of Pall Mall, Trafalgar Square, the Palace, etc. are quite the spectacle of pomp and circumstance. The author of the GlobalResearch piece above made no effort to deconstruct the symbolism, advertising of Empire, and the imagination of Empire about itself and the image it wishes to project, etc. That would have been too much work, perhaps?

What an Englishly English event. Do I have to wait until Wimbledon to have Devon cream and strawberries or can I spoil myself today on account of Prince Whats-His-Name and (now) Princess Blah-blah, newly minted Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, and rum couple, and rich bastards?

Harumph. I'm hurt that I wasn't specifically rejected as an invite. They couldn't even bother to tell me not to come. It stings. Oh yes. Just there, where it hurts. There. Yes. My ass.

Fri, 2011-04-29 10:24

NDPP

Royal Family's Wealth Is From The Blood and Genocide of Indigneous Peoples

http://bsnorrell.blogspot.com/2011/04/royal-familys-wealth-is-from-blood...

"The media refuses to examine where England's 'Royal' family got their wealth: from the blood and resources of Indigenous Peoples. Instead, the media wants the world to celebrate this opulence, greed and genocide.."

invaded, occupied and despoiled sovereign Indigenous homelands and broke every treaty they ever made - welcome to Canada our home on stolen land. Fuck her evil, bloodstained Crown and all her agents, assigns and politicians pledged to uphold this ongoing empire of carnage, piracy and death.

Fri, 2011-04-29 10:25

humanity4all

Keep paying your taxes, loyal canadian subjects. Next time you travel internationally, read the first page of your passport. Guess what, it states the same thing as australian,new zealand,antiguan,fijian,papua new guinea,jamaican,british,etc passports. Again, keep paying your taxes...

Fri, 2011-04-29 10:38

N.Beltov

That piece on Censored News (story about Royal Family's Wealth, etc. ) must have taken all of 5 minutes to slap together. And there's too much contempt for those who aren't as "smart" as the author. And not one footnote.

It won't convince anyone who's already dazzled by the Royal bs.

Fri, 2011-04-29 10:44

NDPP

you must have me confused with somebody that give a f**k...

Fri, 2011-04-29 10:54

N.Beltov

NDPP wrote:
you must have me confused with somebody that give a f**k...

Don't bother to post on this thread then. Exposing institutions like the Royal Family, weddings, yadda yadda, takes more than swear words.

Fri, 2011-04-29 11:42

#10

NDPP

More Than 40 Arrested In London Along Wedding Route

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/royalfamily/royalwedding/article/98258...

"...earlier Friday, Metropolitan police also arrested 3 protesters who were planning to stage a fake execution outside Westminster Abbey during their royal wedding protest. Fellow activists insisted the protest would still go ahead. Posting on Facebook and Twitter, messages said the event, described as a 'right royal orgy' with 'rumpy-pumpy and guillotines' would go on without the 3 detainees.."

video - Arrested for Street Theatre

http://london.indymedia.org/videos/8919

Fri, 2011-04-29 12:10

#11

humanity4all

Thank you for posting this. I will be laughing all day!!! All you subjects are quite shocked. None of you have seen anything yet! What all of you support and authorise(since you all believe that you live in "democracies") your majesty's governments to send armies and kill the poorest people around the world, that behaviour, will eventually be turned against you and your children.

That is why most around the world are curious to know, when will humanitarian intervention take place in the mafia family of nations?

Fri, 2011-04-29 12:19

#12

N.Beltov

Yea, that's better. "Arrested for pre-crime" - I think a lot of people understand that very well. The Royal Family will not be made fun of, it seems.

Fri, 2011-04-29 12:58

#13

remind

My partner, in agreement with the opening piece, has stated that the 'royal family' and those that support this act of imperialism and inequality, have shown a; "blatent disregard for the reality at hand, which by passes even sociopathic cognition by a long shot. Peoples the world over are struggling from oppressive tyranny launched, for the most part, by the British and they have the audacity to spend millions, if not billions on this travesty of display which in reality is funded by the blood of The Indigenous the world over".

Fri, 2011-04-29 13:13

#14

N.Beltov

You can do better than overblown rhetoric like that, remind.

Fri, 2011-04-29 13:28

#15

takeitslowly

People like fairy tales and traditions, even if its fake and oppressive in reality. Simple as that.

Fri, 2011-04-29 13:45

#16

N.Beltov

That's why I mentioned the imagination of Empire, the image that is projected, and so on. From a left point of view it's useful for US to deconstruct all this crap ... maybe have some fun too ... and then juxtapose the image with the terrible reality and history that other contributors to this thread have clumsily (my view) added.

Fri, 2011-04-29 13:49

#17

remind

nbeltov, as I stated in my post, those 'overblown rhetorical' words are my partner's rant of this am, to me. As I had watched the display myself. I asked him if I could reproduce them, and he gave me permission, which he not often does.

And furthermore, he has every right to feel that type of emotion, and you have no right to disregard and disparage it, given you are not First Nation peoples who faced destruction by British imperialism.

Fri, 2011-04-29 13:52

#18

takeitslowly

and i cant help but bring race to it...the royal family is white and in my mind at least, i've always associated whiteness with royalty..my prince charming would be white, and powerful..i grew up in Hong Kong, a british colony and i've always think like that..sometimes its hard to let go of those image association...even now, when i think of someone powerful, in the army or from YET ANOTHER failed job interviews, its the same white faces that both attract me and reject me at the same time..is that racist for me to say? anyways. yeah.

Fri, 2011-04-29 14:30

#19

Pogo

I once ran for student council president at Malaspina College and my main plank was that I would boycott the Queen when she came for a visit that year (leaving a gap in the receiving line). I still boycotted the visit, but no one noticed or cared.

Fri, 2011-04-29 16:23

#20

N.Beltov

remind wrote:
My partner, in agreement with the opening piece, has stated that the 'royal family' and those that support this act of imperialism and inequality, have shown a; "blatent disregard for the reality at hand, which by passes even sociopathic cognition by a long shot. Peoples the world over are struggling from oppressive tyranny launched, for the most part, by the British and they have the audacity to spend millions, if not billions on this travesty of display which in reality is funded by the blood of The Indigenous the world over".

Which "act of imperialism" ? The Royal Wedding? So when the Queen takes a shit is that also an "act of imperialism" ? Or is this some rhetorical device for describing the institution of the Monarchy? Who knows what you mean here. But it's clear that if I criticize this clumsy expresssion then I have "no right to disregard and disparage it" ?

I also ask if you are saying that everything associated with the Monarchy a bad thing. To you and/or your partner. Because you probably know very well that First Nation leaders from Canada, over a century ago and ever since, have made USE of the connection to the Crown/Royal institution to make their case for First Nations rights OVER THE HEADS OF THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT AT THE TIME AND MANAGED TO HELP THEIR CASE IN THE PUBLIC MIND IN THIS COUNTRY AND IN THE UK.

Don't think so? In 1906 Delegation of BC chiefs meet with King Edward to discuss the Indian Land Question. Again in 1909 a Petition was made by Cowichan Tribes to the King of England. It was referred back to Canada but not before a great deal of sympathetic publicity was done for the Tribes. The fact is, First Nation people in Canada were quite capable of playing off one group of overlords against another.

So spare me your racialized rhetoric. Being entitled to our opinions doesn't mean being entitled to say any sort of b.s.. And just because someone that you care greatly about says something doesn't mean that you're entitled to crap on anyone who disagrees with the claims made. Smarten up.

Reference: Union of BC Indian Chiefs Historical Timeline (showing 1906, 1909)

Fri, 2011-04-29 16:38

#21

6079_Smith_W

Anyone catch the piece on CBC The National - Wednesday night I believe it was - interviewing people from the neighbourhood where the bride's mother grew up, and the big party they were throwing in celebration ?

I don't think there was one white person interviewed in that entire piece, and they were talking about applying an Indian tradition of claiming the bride as one of their community's own.

Of course it was a puff piece, and of course Imperialism, is a very complex thing.

I guess my point is that as staged, and as naive as those sentiments are, I think they are still more legitimate than the first-year political science tirade we are getting here.

Fri, 2011-04-29 16:55

#22

N.Beltov

I have no wish to offend remind nor put down her FN partner but it's really disturbing to me to read a fellow babbler use something like bait and switch tactics (from a clumsy denunciation of the Monarchy to the right to feel certain emotions) to end debate and discussion.

Fri, 2011-04-29 17:55

#23

remind

Oh you went well beyond offensive and right into a ugly and blatent display of racism and sexism nbeltov.

Fri, 2011-04-29 18:24

#24

Sven

takeitslowly wrote:

People like fairy tales and traditions, even if its fake and oppressive in reality. Simple as that.

That's about right.

Fri, 2011-04-29 18:43

#25

George Victor

Tradition and lies in the form of fairy tales helps them (us) to forget what came before, the (usually nasty, blood-covered) "beginnings" , which destroys any sense of empathy for the people still experiencing the pain. Empathy is the only emotion from which real social change can emerge, since it demands understanding the real world. This thread is turning out to be a beautiful example of this loss of empathy. But then, it started out with a silly premise, as though "dictatorship" had anything to do with it. That's just nonsense, sociologically. And bad history.

Fri, 2011-04-29 18:46

#26

MegB

remind wrote:

Oh you went well beyond offensive and right into a ugly and blatent display of racism and sexism nbeltov.

I looked really hard for nbeltov's "ugly and blatant display or racism and sexism" and found none. If you insist on employing identity politics as a weapon against those you disagree with, we'll just call it what it is - a personal attack. You have two choices here: change the way you interact with other babblers to conform to our policy of inclusiveness and tolerance, or take an extended vacation from babble. Your choice.

Fri, 2011-04-29 19:15

#27

remind

'kay fair enough...just never knew that adomishments to "smarten up" was inclusive and tolerant, just as I never knew that a white man telling a Mic Mac to adhere to BC Indian Chiefs opinions was A okay.

Sorry, will remember those positions from now on, my apologies nbeltov, carry on....

Fri, 2011-04-29 21:16

#28

6079_Smith_W

Not to get swept away by the chauvanistic subject matter, but here's yet another reason why I am proud to be from WInnipeg:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Tactical-squad-at-standoff...

Fri, 2011-04-29 22:30

#29

N.Beltov

I love my Winnipeg too, I'm proud of my time there, and no matter how many times people who don't know shit about the Peg put her down I shall never tire of saying good things about her.

eta - 25 years ago I lived near the corner of William and Furby. That's 2 blocks from William and Kate. The old hood. I shit you not. My corner grocer, an ex-communist, had a sidearm under the counter. Just in case. hah. Tough neighbourhood. Beltovian stomping grounds. heh.

Here's a funny story from the hood. Some guy robbed the local sevey (7-11). The cops arrive. Ask questions. What did the thief look like? blah blah. Anyway, eventually, the staff says to the cop: "Look, if you want to catch the thief .. .he's there waiting for the bus."

Not a word of a lie. The thief was too poor for a getaway vehicle. He had to take the bus. lol.

Fri, 2011-04-29 23:39

#30

Frmrsldr

N.Beltov wrote:

... but it's really disturbing to me to read a fellow babbler use something like bait and switch tactics (from a clumsy denunciation of the Monarchy...

I have read remind's other posts on monarchy

and I can tell you that she is genuinely opposed to monarchy.

Fri, 2011-04-29 23:54

#31

Boom Boom

Just watched about half of the wedding on CBC... wow. And those hats!!!!

Sat, 2011-04-30 00:14

#32

Frmrsldr

Besides, y'all shouldn't be saying such bad things about monarchy - it gets some people real uptight around here.

(Yeah right, Frmrsldr. O.K. returning to my usual serious discourse:) Canadians who are (pro) monarchists betray their lack of understanding what the monarchy truly represents (to Canada and its history) both symbolically and actually: colonialism, merchantilist then capitalist exploitation of all "colonials", oppression, exploitation and genocide of Indigenous peoples.

Consider this, Canada's head of state is a foreign government (head of state): The British Crown. Canada is not even a fully sovereign and independent nation state. This is contrary to the Treaty of Westphalia, the Statute of Westminster and all other relevant international laws, treaties, statutes, resolutions, protocols & etc., since then to the present that establish the principle of sovereignty among nations.

Monarchy ain't no good for nobody.

Sat, 2011-04-30 00:48

#33

Fidel

N.Beltov wrote:
Don't think so? In 1906 Delegation of BC chiefs meet with King Edward to discuss the Indian Land Question.

Eddie the Seventh was illegit. They were all illegit bastards since Edward the IV in the 15th century. His mum ran around with an archer for five weeks while the last real king was off fighting a war. Illegit from Eddie IV and the bastard Henrys and Elizabeths on down through the House of "Windsor".

So the only legit leaders at that meeting would have been the delegation of BC Chiefs I'm afraid. Meet [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Abney-Hastings,_14th_Earl_of_Loudou... real King of England[/url], Mike Hastings. He lives in a bungalow in Australia.

Sat, 2011-04-30 03:35

#34

NDPP

The Indigenous delegation to London in 1906 went to advise the Imperial Crown that it was in breach of its own Royal Proclamation of 1763 which, as a matter of settled and binding constitutional and international law, prohibited any disturbance or molestation of the 'Several Nations or Tribes of Indians with which We are connected and who live under our protection', by the Crown or its assigns. Given that the Crown colony of BC was acting as if it owned the place, contrary to the Imperial Crown's solemn commitment, the delgation went to find out if the 'Honour of the Crown' meant anything. It didn't. Nonetheless the law still stands and neither the governments of BC or Canada have any legal basis to assume jurisdiction over lands 'beyond the treaty frontier' - at least 70% of Canadian title and jurisdiction is arguably null and void. Put another way by a wise Shuswap elder the only 'soil' the canuckleheads can claim as theirs is that left under their fingernails when they scratch their settler asses.

Sat, 2011-04-30 03:40

#35

NDPP

Fuck The Royal Family (and vid)

http://www.true-equality.net/archive/2011/04/29/fuck-the-royal-family.aspx

Citizens NOT Subjects: Stuff the Royal Wedding!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/street-life-images/

Sat, 2011-04-30 23:24

#36

NDPP

British Royals Hosted World's Despots

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/177570.html

Sun, 2011-05-01 00:59

#37

Frmrsldr

NDPP wrote:

British Royals Hosted World's Despots

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/177570.html

It may not be good PR,

but it's perfectly logical:

With its tide receeding and monarchy being besieged and besotted worldwide,

it is logical for the remaining monarchies to stick together.

If ever you were uncertain about the true nature of monarchy, the guest list of royal who's whos at the wedding makes it crystal clear.

Sun, 2011-05-01 09:26

#38

A_J

remind wrote:

Peoples the world over are struggling from oppressive tyranny launched, for the most part, by the British and they have the audacity to spend millions, if not billions on this travesty of display which in reality is funded by the blood of The Indigenous the world over".

It certainly didn't cost billions of pounds, and I believe the state "only" paid for security (which was still some 90% of the 20 million pound bill) - the families covered the rest out of their own funds, which for the Queen and Prince Charles is derived from the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster - extensive property investments in the UK.