Obama to Announce the Death of Osama Bin Laden

Hiding in plain sight...

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The al-Qaida chief was living in a house in Abbottabad that a U.S. administration official said was "custom built to hide someone of significance." The city around 60 miles from the capital Islamabad is a far cry from the remote mountain caves along the Pakistan-Afghanistan tribal border where most intelligence assessments had put bin Laden in recent years.

Critics have long accused elements of Pakistan's security establishment of protecting bin Laden, though Islamabad has always denied this. Ties between the United States and Pakistan have hit a low point in recent months over the future of Afghanistan, and any hint of possible Pakistani collusion with bin Laden could hit them hard even amid the jubilation of getting American's No. 1 enemy.

That bin Laden could be in Abbottabad unknown to authorities "is a bit amazing" says Hamid Gul, a former Pakistani intelligence chief fiercely critical of America's presence in the region. Aside from the military "there is the local police, the Intelligence Bureau, Military Intelligence, the ISI, they all had a presence there."

Residents said the compound was around one kilometer (half a mile) away from the Kakul Military Academy, an army run institution for top officers and one of several military installations in the bustling, hill-ringed town of around 400,000 people.

Bin Laden killed in fiery raid in Pakistan

I wish i could concentrate the lunatic left found in this thread and email it to every NDP voter in the country, knowing the attitudes they are actually supporting with an NDP vote im sure Jack would be back into third in no time.

'I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.' - Twain

Our society is truly sick when we are celebrating the death of a living being, period. Especially one who was trained by the West and turned against us. It is obvious it will be a political boost to Obama who is getting way too much credit on this thread. The Democrats are just as much of a problem as the Liberals up here; they pretend to have leftist ideals but that is just their role in the two-party illusion.

Didn't anyone else feel creepy and scared watching the Americans celebrating outside the White House?

I'm wondering what new conspiracy theories this news will spawn.

It's bad form to celebrate anyone's death, but I'm not going to get overly critical when it's of a man who's responsible for killing thousands. The celebratory crowds are small (a couple thousand in all of Washington). I was in a bar in Boulder last night when this all went down, and it was mostly all of us staring at the TV in near disbelief.

Will this change anything? Maybe? Al-Qaeda is a hugely decentralized organization, almost a brand, so its hard to tell how much of an asset, outside of morally, Bin Laden was. In practical terms, it might give Obama an out for leaving Afghanistan ... eventually ... while claiming some kind of victory.

Now that the world's no.1 terror threat is no more, what are the chances of getting my stash of nail clippers and scissors back from the various airports where they were confiscated?

This death of one confused billionaire will change nothing, except, as oldgoat says, incite more violence. Ten years, two wars, millions dead or displaced, trillions spent, torture, illegal detention, the flouting of civil liberties and international law. This is no reason to celebrate.

ETA: nope, you're through. You will no longer hold this message board in contempt. Au revoir.

Did somebody just get whacked here?

NDPP wrote:

"NDP Leader Jack Layton thanked the men and women in uniform shortly after US President Obama announced that Osama Bin Laden was killed in a US raid.  I offer our deep appreciation to the women and men in uniform who work hard and sacrifice to make the world a safer place,' he said." 

Sniff.  As a uniformed man, it kinda gets me in the you know where, you know.

Dodger718 wrote:

Osama bin Laden tried to kill many of my friends and family. I'll raise a glass to his death.

OK, OK, we get it.  Maybe in that drunken haze of yours you'll knock back a ham sandwich too?

I've not a shred of pity for Osama Bin Laden. Still, the news of his murder and the violation of his corpse is sickening, really disgusting. Even the worthless fat fuck Harper saw fit to qualify his celebration with 'sober' - even that moral midget understands there is something deeply wrong with the way this has all gone down.

I wonder if the Americans will follow through on their promise from years ago that they'd wrap the corpse in bacon.

I'm pretty certain that the body has been desecrated in some sort of fashion.

All the talking heads have been saying that the U.S. will have to release photos of the body to prove his death.

But I heard he was shot in the head,so it's not likely he'd be recognized.

And I still find the timing of this to be a little suspect....But I'm going to steer clear of any conspiracies for the moment.

Anyway,in keeping score with 'key' figures who have been murdered since 2002 or 2003....We have Sadam Hussein,his sons and now (allegedly) Osama Bin Laden.

When do Cheney,Bush and Rumsfeld find themselves at the Gallow's?

When do their allies (including those in Ottawa) face a world tribunal?

Sadly,I know the answer...Never.

alan smithee wrote:

But I heard he was shot in the head,so it's not likely he'd be recognized.

That's not true; it depends on what he was shot in the head with... and how close. People who've seen the real photos (yet to be released) said there's no doubt its Bin Laden. From what I understand all the photos floating around the internet right now are fakes.

Also...

Islamic scholars criticize bin Laden's sea burial

I think this bit about DNA testing could be nonsense, too. The USA is world renowned for its criminal investigations. They've made it a science. But, oddly enough, they missed a chance to positively ID 9/11 hijackers at the Pentagon "crash" scene. There were body parts strewn everywhere around the rubble. Conspicuously absent were various jet engine parts and major sections of the plane said to have been vaporized by intense heat of the flames and explosion. And yet there were body parts which were preserved. And there was office furniture and other artifacts, highly combustible office furniture etc which survived incinerating temperatures.    

Like so much evidence from the JFK assassination locked away from the public until 2029, I highly doubt that the American people will be entrusted with evidence concerning Osama bin Laden, his life or death or much of anything else concerning the truth about 9/11 anytime soon. The USA's are the most secretive governments in world history. Secrecy in government and democracy are two different themes incompatible with the other as a general rule of thumb.

This story serves as a vindication for Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, and all the dozens of CIA torture camps spread throughout the world.

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Torture and interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Romania and Poland extracted the courier’s name from [Khaled Sheikh] Mohammed and his successor, Abu Faraj Al Libi, the Associated Press reported.

One can hardly be surprised that they would use this action for propaganda purposes, playing it as if this action justifies their mistreatment, torture, murder, etc. of countless people.

Also not surprising is that shortly after the death of one bogey man, they have another bogey man lined up to justify the continuation of their warmongering.  Nothing will change and the murder, torture and destruction will continue as before.

The celebrations are quite sickening.  I am most definitely not sad about OBL's demise but the gleeful jubilation is over the top - add a few cheerleaders and you might think you're watching the supporters of a Super Bowl winning team celebrating a big victory.

The death penalty is wrong in all cases with no exceptions, but even more so without a fair trial.  Most definitely a trial would have been problematic but an assassination is not justice.  However, stopping OBL from sharing information was more important to them than justice anyway.

As much as I despise Harper, "sober satisfaction" is right (even if I don't believe for a minute that he or any of the other members of the teeny weenie crowd didn't get a thrill from the news).

Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

Islamic scholars criticize bin Laden's sea burial

Boo hoo. My father in law was a rabbi in New York City in 2001 and presided over many burials of random body parts or miniscule scraps of DNA of people burned alive by Osama bin Laden.

Le T and others, please do not take Dodger seriously, even though I share all your feelings about his posts. He is a provocateur, pure and simple, and your reactions give him pleasure. Deny him pleasure. I suggest we either ignore him, or mercilessly ridicule him - preferably with witty lines. Anyway, just my 2 cents.

An eye for and eye leaves everyone blind. Dodger apparently has been living that code since he is blind to how full of hate his words are.  Hate breeds hate and violence breeds violence.  The only way to peace is by being peaceful not vengeful.

So can any scholars out there give me a cite for that line that vengeance belongs to the lord.  Nice to see the good People of the Book cheering murder in the streets.  No wonder I despise organized religions. 

Fidel (@29): I imagine that the charges of murder of US nationals outside the US are in reference to the bombing of the [i]USS Cole[/i] (which was apparently in Yemen when the bombing occurred), or perhaps to the 1998 bombings of the US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya.

There is no proof that Osama bin Laden orchestrated 9/11. Before she was assassinated, Benazir Bhutto reported that Osama bin Laden was murdered and that she knew the identity of his killer, the same person who claimed to have murdered Daniel Pearl, a Wall Street news journalist. Omar Saeed Sheikh was identified as a 9/11 paymaster a number of years ago. He's supposed to have been beheaded for his role in wiring tens of thousands of dollars to lead hijacker Mohamed Atta, but he is still there in a Pakistani prison, and no one knows why. And he almost started a war between India and Pakistan from his jail cell. Omar Saeed Sheikh has been linked to British and Pakistani intelligence. In fact, a number of high ranking "al-Qaeda" members have been working for the west all along.

There have been a number of other patsies since then. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is the latest "9/11 mastermind." KSM was, in fact, one of their own "freedom fighters" trained in terrorism and guerilla warfare before going to Afghanistan in the 1980s. al-Qa'eda is really al-CIA'da.

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