Parliament is compromised of the Monarch, Senate and House of Commons. No, I didn't endorse this one. So what?
I didn't endorse this Parliament. Did you?
Wed, 2011-05-04 07:25
#102
Wed, 2011-05-04 07:41
#103
I just wish that the people who engage in (and endorse) these little head games could come to realize the damage they do to real people by giving free rein to a freewheeling capitalist ethic.
Wed, 2011-05-04 07:42
#104
There's a valid argument which suggests that if things had miraculously gone the other way toward a NDP majority, such an occurrence would only serve to temporarily decelerate the inexorable advance of neo-liberalism. An island surrounded by a lake filled with crocodiles wouldn't be a safe haven for long before they'd begin crawling out onto the shore. Neo-liberalism is merciless with its punishment of those who do not follow along with the program. It wouldn't be long before an electorate would thrash about about in desperation for saviors. They'll thank the corporate media for always being at the ready with a few rescue heroes.
Wed, 2011-05-04 07:45
#105
In a system where 39% of the people can elect a majority government that the majority of the people of Canada can't stand, I get why Tobold figures there's no point in voting. I often feel that way myself. After working hard to try to get proportional representation in Ontario and being thwarted by the Ontario Liberal government who pretended to give a damn, but then sabotaged the process by refusing to distribute the report of the Citizens' Assembly to Ontarians before asking them to vote for or against it, I think electoral politics is basically a waste of time, although I do still go and waste my time marking my X on the ballot.
Wake me up when the NDP starts giving a damn about PR, and actually doing something about it in places where they have the opportunity to do so (you know, in those provinces where they get phony majorities and always find some reason or other not to bother with PR, which I'm sure has nothing to do with the fact that they benefit from FPTP in those places.)
The reason why we're screwed is the system, observer, not because "no one on the right boycotts voting". You have no idea how those other 38.6% would have voted, had they voted.
I voted this time, and it didn't make a damn bit of difference. I voted with the majority, and yet I'm still going to ruled by a fascist dictator who is going to screw us over for four or five years now, and there isn't a thing that the NDP is going to be able to do about it. Not one thing. Some victory.
Wed, 2011-05-04 07:47
#106
Hey TR, back for another marathon workout with the electoral fixed-game losers I see. They voted once again for cats to run mouseland. So now the no difference party can leverage the people's pain into victory when the same ndp cuckolds submit themselves to the same game again 4 years hence. Sorry, not I. There's a sucker born every minute I guess. What a joke. Have fun!
And to make this silly argument, you have to ignore a century of social democratic work, first to bring universal sufferage (women too, by golly) and then the gains made for those without any means of support.
Really selective history. And using the Tommy Douglas Mouseland story gives it a revolting anti-democratic taint.
Wed, 2011-05-04 08:02
#107
To expect anything other than disaster and disappointment from this wretched system would require engaging in solitary head games of pure delusion. Why would we expect to fare any better in Canada when the global apparatus of which it belongs to has snatched away all sense of dignity and countless lives from the majority on this planet. A moment that might have ordinarily stood as a resounding triumph for social democrats in this country has been rendered all but meaningless, and thus it will always be so long as we're forced to drag along these dead weight parasites toward their artificially created oblivion.
Wed, 2011-05-04 08:10
#108
And to make this silly argument, you have to ignore a century of social democratic work, first to bring universal sufferage (women too, by golly) and then the gains made for those without any means of support. Really selective history. And using the Tommy Douglas Mouseland story gives it a revolting anti-democratic taint.
Just keep thinking those happy thoughts from yesteryear. Is that the solution for getting by day to day?
Wed, 2011-05-04 08:17
#109
Anti-fascist is better than fascist. Its less about getting what one wants, than slowing down what we don't want. Its called being realistic.
Wed, 2011-05-04 08:35
#110
No one is talking about fascism, except perhaps as one description among many for the contemporary circumstances. If we're being realistic, and I mean down to the brass tacks of the matter, the larger question is how much longer should people be expected to tolerate the intolerable, or should we just simply consign ourselves and try to enjoy whatever is left, maybe grow some backyard ganja.
Wed, 2011-05-04 08:55
#111
Sj: "...or should we just simply consign ourselves and try to enjoy whatever is left, maybe grow some backyard ganja."
The lesson in Nevil Shute's "On the Beach." Unfortunately, those unable to "enjoy" a goddam thing, penniless, can't join in your mournful copout. Leaving your message just a pile a hedonistic horseshit.
Wed, 2011-05-04 08:59
#112
At least we're back to normal. I was getting worried there.
Wed, 2011-05-04 09:08
#113
The only hope is for progressives to use social media to organize and act.
Boycotts, support good movements, etc. Block Ads from sites like the Globe and Mail, for shilling for Harper, etc. It can help.
Being a pain in the ass to power can work. Even the G20 was terrible, but at the same time, a few people standing up can work.
Sadly, Harper won't go power-mad and start by banning abortions, he will start with other stuff, and then try social engineering for 10 years first using his media system he now controls like Putin, as critical journalists will get fired.
Wed, 2011-05-04 09:28
#114
The only hope is for progressives to use social media to organize and act. Boycotts, support good movements, etc. Block Ads from sites like the Globe and Mail, for shilling for Harper, etc. It can help. Being a pain in the ass to power can work. Even the G20 was terrible, but at the same time, a few people standing up can work.
It will take a little more convincing than that I'm afraid. Something which resonates in tandem with the traditional approach to politics from the left, something that they can't easily write off as the griping of a few troublemakers. Instead of vote mobs which are cued up for specific occasions every few years, we'd need mobs period. There's too much institutionalized 'couthness' which persuades against any such entanglements. It's no surprise that it first comes from institutionalized media spokespersons, and subsequently from those who perpetually allow themselves to be unmotivated by the pronouncements.
Wed, 2011-05-04 10:01
#115
Catchfire
Closing for length.
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