NATO Attacks Ordinary Libyans At Petrol Pump (and vid)
So where's the NATO attack on the Petrol Pump (in the vid)?
Libya XIII
Wed, 2011-06-15 18:16
#102
Bec.De.Corbin
Wed, 2011-06-15 21:41
#103
NATO Attacks Ordinary Libyans At Petrol Pump (and vid)
So where's the NATO attack on the Petrol Pump (in the vid)?
Well if that's what you want what's stopping you from searching the 'net and finding one (a video that shows (a) NATO attack(s) on (a) fuel station(s))?
What the hell do you think?
That Gadhafi's planes bombed the gas station (just to piss Libyans off against the U.S. and NATO)?
If that's the case,
then we're either not doing too shit hot a job with the no-fly zone.
Or we're intentionally allowing Gadhafi's planes bomb gas stations with the ulterior motives of:
1. Shifting responsibility for such attacks away from ourselves so we look like the 'good guys' and
2. Shifting the blame for such attacks to Gadhafi to make it look like he's the 'bad guy' - evil and crazy to justify our attempt at (illegal) regime change and
3. A further attempt on our part to turn Libyans against Gadhafi.
Wed, 2011-06-15 23:36
#104
Bec.De.Corbin
Frmsldr, my point was there was not airstrike on a gas station in that video... but it's titled like there is.
Wed, 2011-06-15 23:42
#105
Well if that's what you want what's stopping you from searching the 'net and finding one (a video that shows (a) NATO attack(s) on (a) fuel station(s))?
Wed, 2011-06-15 23:52
#106
Northern Shoveler
Frmsldr, my point was there was not airstrike on a gas station in that video... but it's titled like there is.
Wow making babblers defend the title in an article. Your point is irrelevant given the reality that headlines seldom convey anything other than the headline writers bias.
New babble rule: no articles that have misleading titles. It should cut down considerable on the number of links but it will be hard to enforce.
Thu, 2011-06-16 01:15
#107
What the hell do you think?
That Gadhafi's planes bombed the gas station (just to piss Libyans off against the U.S. and NATO)?
If that's the case,
then we're either not doing too shit hot a job with the no-fly zone.
Or we're intentionally allowing Gadhafi's planes bomb gas stations with the ulterior motives of:
1. Shifting responsibility for such attacks away from ourselves so we look like the 'good guys' and
2. Shifting the blame for such attacks to Gadhafi to make it look like he's the 'bad guy' - evil and crazy to justify our attempt at (illegal) regime change and
3. A further attempt on our part to turn Libyans against Gadhafi.
The philosophical term for such a debate is tautology.
Circular argument.
Thu, 2011-06-16 07:50
#108
Bec.De.Corbin
Well it looks like your arguing with yourself...
Not that NATO has any business bombing anything in Libya but I seriously doubt they are bombing gas stations full of civilians... No, they bomb other important targets like government buildings that are apparently taxing for takeoff.
Thu, 2011-06-16 07:54
#109
Bec.De.Corbin
Well if that's what you want what's stopping you from searching the 'net and finding one (a video that shows (a) NATO attack(s) on (a) fuel station(s))?
Did that as well and all I got was links to that same article on several different web sites and a bunch of links to NATO fuel convoys being attacked in Pakistan; I found nothing that shows that NATO BOMBED A GAS STATION FULL OF CIVILIANS IN LIBYA.
@NS, no new rules are necessary, I'm not saying anything about or at NDPP; he merely copied the title from that web site. I was just commenting that there's no real attack on a filling station in that video like the title indicates. If anything I find the title a bit on the drama queen side; which is a pity as the story about the all women gas station was interesting enough and worthy of a place in the title. I love the line about how women don't have time to do stupid shit like get in fights or shoot guns in the air while waiting in line for gas... What was she trying to say about us guys? Am I the only one here that cought that? I think the ladies pulled on over on us men...
Thu, 2011-06-16 08:42
#110
I think its probably akin to one of our MSM writing that Canadians are being 'hit hard at the pump'.
Thu, 2011-06-16 08:57
#111
NATO Airstrike Reportedly Kills 12 in Libya
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-06/16/c_13932036.htm
"[a] NATO airstrike hit a bus loaded with passengers Wednesday evening in Kikla city, 120 km southwest of the capital Tripoli, killing 12 and wounding two others, Libya state TV reports.."
Canada's Charles 'the Butcher' Bouchard hard at work protecting Libyans from their evil dictator..
Thu, 2011-06-16 10:48
#112
Northern Shoveler
I think its probably akin to one of our MSM writing that Canadians are being 'hit hard at the pump'.
Of course it is.
I know that with the price of gas in Burnaby there are many people being killed by the cost. I thought the title was overblown rhetoric but showing how the NASTOP bombing has disrupted everything in the country. There is no daily life for people in Tripoli they are all trying to cope with living in a war zone.
Similar to this British headlines but without the context of Libya dropping bombs on London on a daily basis.
Gas prices are killing rest of the economy
or maybe the US version.
Will $200 oil kill the economy?
Thu, 2011-06-16 23:51
#113
The article was not talking about direct or literal attacks against gas stations with people at them.
The first few sentences explain that the direct attacks are against fuel trucks and the sanctions against Libya.
The given assumption of the article is that the U.S. and NATO believe that they can accomplish regime change in Libya through air power alone.
The article challenges that assumption by showing how ordinary Libyans living in and around Tripoli and Western Libya are coping with and getting around the hardships by our waging both an economic and a "shooting" war against them.
NATO believes this illegal and war crime/crime against humanity strategy will cause Libyans to turn against Gadhafi and they will either capture and execute him or he will resign and either successfully seek asylum in another country or be caught, put on trial and probably be executed by our hands at the ICC.
Again this article shows that the U.S. and NATO are (so far) failing in this regard as well as it seems most Libyans living in the Tripoli and/or Western Libya are not disposed against Gadhafi.
Fri, 2011-06-17 16:57
#114
IAC Libya: Behind the Phony 'Rape' Charges: Are NATO Forces Preparing A Ground Attack?
http://www.iacenter.org/africa/lybia-rape-charges061011/
"...The 'political rape' charge in this case makes no sense and has no basis beyond the US-NATO desire to justify expanding the war against Libya.."
especially in the face of growing international opposition to it.
Fri, 2011-06-17 17:18
#115
Should Canada be deploying forces to Libya?
It's too bad the same percentage of peacemongers don't show on election day to vote against the the same corrupt Canadian governments pandering to big oil companies and whatever Warshington instructs our WorstPastThePost stooges to do.
Sat, 2011-06-18 06:04
#116
perhaps they know, as does your own no difference bombs away libya party, that people like you and others of the ndp apologentsia will vote for them no matter what they do/don't do.
Sat, 2011-06-18 07:10
#117
Libya 13 Ends but Libya 14 Continues Here:
http://rabble.ca/babble/international-news-and-politics/libya-14
Sat, 2011-06-18 21:29
#118
Closed for length.
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