Michele Bachmann: And you thought Bush was bad?!?

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Sven wrote:

Northern Shoveler wrote:

The big oil and military establishment will provide her with enough money to be a serious candidate if she appears to be able to delude the voters with libertarian drivel. I think she has little chance of winning the nomination and zero change of beating Obama.  I have never liked Obama but I don't see him being defeated by any "tea bagger" no matter how media savvy.

Libertarians will not like Bachmann.

Is this a semantics thing?  I am equating the tea bag movement with right wing libertarian views.  Since she gave the Tea Bag response to Obama I presume she has the support of good libertarians like the Koch brothers.  Is there a sub set of libertarians you are referring to that would vote for Obama over her?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fRxO_Yx99I

Anyone remember Dan Quayle?  He was the Sarah Palin of my generation.

I think that some libertarians will like her just fine.  She may not be your ideal libertarian but that doesn't mean her tea bag rhetoric and anti government mime will not appeal to libertarians other than Jason. 

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All in all, however, a decent coming out, significantly better than Mr. Huntsman’s in terms of energy and excitement.  Jason Lewis, who did the introduction, will no doubt have an enjoyable second career for a while as crowd-whipper in chief.  Based on this event, the new Iowa poll and her widely praised performance in the New Hampshire debate, Ms. Bachmann has clearly been on a roll in the last couple of weeks.

http://www.fontcraft.com/liberty/?p=9645

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=2278261

Did you see the Rolling Stone article on Bachmann by Matt Taibbi, Sven?

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/michele-bachmanns-holy-war-201...

Sven wrote:

Northern Shoveler wrote:

I think that some libertarians will like her just fine.

And some Marxists no doubt voted for Obama.  That doesn't make Obama a Marxist.

I posted links to Libertarians who call her one.  I am not a Marxist but I would listen to a Marxist views on whether someone was a Marxist.  No Marxists claimed Obama was a Marxist, even if they voted for him.  You can't say that about Libertarians and Bachmann.  Some of them claim that she is and since I am not a libertarian who am I to disagree.

Late night comics will have a field day with Bachmann if (heaven forbid) she becomes the GOP candidate. But could America survive her?

i read on democracy now that she thinks bush was a communist....A COMMUNIST!  

she also hangs out with convicted money launderers like Franklin Vennes, white supremacists like John Eidsmoe, etc, etc...

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/6/28/a_perfect_product_of_the_religious

Oh gosh ya, I broke out laughing today, its so funny.

Here are a few one liners:

"This is not Michele Bachmann being a kook. This is our treasury secretary on tape and on camera."

"We are working on the light bulb bill. If the Democrats can hose up a light bulb don't trust them with the country."

"That's what the Bill of Rights is all about-to secure our individual liberties from an overweening huge bureaucratic large big government."

"this is where the shot was heard around the world in Lexington and Concord."

"we need to have carbon dioxide as part of the fundamental lifecycle of Earth."

"Where in the Constitution does it say the federal government should regulate potatoes in school lunches? It doesn't."

"it didn't matter whether they descended from known royalty or whether they were of a higher class"

"the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States."

Of John McCain - "He is not my man," she said. "Our candidate was chosen by the media. But there are other races out there."

Those are mostly from here> http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/151439/psycho_talk%3A_the_32_craziest_t...

re: "we need to have carbon dioxide as part of the fundamental lifecycle of Earth."

uh, that is true

that is a second question;

but on the issue of the plain meaning of the statement above, yes it is true

"Bachmann stands by claims that 'Founding Fathers' ended slavery"

Rep. Michele Bachmann, who officially announced yesterday in Iowa that she is running for president, appeared on "Good Morning America" Monday, where George Stephanopoulos attempted to clarify some of her previous statements.

Among them: Bachmann's claim that "the Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence worked tirelessly to end slavery.

"Now with respect, Congresswoman, that's just not true," Stephanopoulos said. "Many of them including Jefferson and Washington were actually slave holders and slavery didn't end until the Civil War."

Bachmann dodged the question, answering, "Well, you know what's marvelous is that in this country and under our Constitution, we have the ability when we recognize that something is wrong to change it. And that's what we did in our country. We changed it. We no longer have slavery. That's a good thing. And what our Constitution has done for our nation, is to give us the basis of freedom unparalleled in the rest of the world."

She goes on to claim that John Quincy Adams, who was a small boy during the Revolutionary War and did indeed eventually work to abolish slavery, should be counted as a "Founding Father."

Watch the visibly distraught Stephanopoulos' interview with the tea party candidate, in which she discusses eliminating the minimum wage entirely, Sarah Palin and her foster children.

(video embedded at the link)

comment from a friend on the video: The best part of that clip is George Stephanopoulos's face...it's great...you know he is thinking "where did this bone head just come in from?"

babble formatting took me 15 minutes to correct this post.

In the last two days, Bachmann has

• Pledged to use a serial killer as a role model, and
• Defied a recording artist's request to stop using his music at her rallies.

Clearly the former was mere stupidity.  In one Iowa town she pledged to look to the example of the town's own John Wayne.  Except that John Wayne the actor never lived in that town - but John Wayne Gacy had.

Tom Petty's lawyers presented the Bachmann campaign with a cease and desist order over her use of American Girl.  The next day the song played for 28 seconds before suddenly stopping. 

....or Letterman and Leno!

Gary Johnson Condemns FAMiLY Leader Pledge As ‘Promise To Discriminate’

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Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson

Republican presidential candidate and former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson spoke out over the weekend against the FAMiLY LEADER’s “marriage vow” that rivals Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) and former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) have already signed. Arguing that “government should not be involved in the bedrooms of consenting adults,” Johnson condemned the pledge as “unRepublican” and a “promise to discriminate“

The Republicans will never nominate him of course--but I think he's the only Republican running who would have a chance at beating Obama.

CNN iss reporting today that the Bachmann family business - a "Christian Counselling Centre' - counsels gays to make them straight. Hopefully this investigation will knock her off the lead in Iowa, but I doubt it.

I predict she gets the nomination. And then its 50/50 as to whether she wins.

I think she's the frontrunner right now, but I do not think she will get the nomination.  It's still very early, so if she's got momentum now it may be hard for her to keep it.  Rick Perry might enter the race which would cut into her support.  If the GOP starts getting viewed as too extreme Romney will get a boost.

I think Bachmann's the most likely of those declared to get the nomination, but not better than even chance.

I really doubt she could win if she gets the nomination.

Michele Bachmann Supports View That Slavery Wasn't So Bad After All

Heard this on CNN a few hours ago: "If Sarah Palin decides to contest the nomination, she will attract dump trucks full of money".

There was also a short segment on CNN on the topic "Obama will be a one-term President". In the GOP, commentators last night said if Palin contests the nomination, she will be the instant front-runner of the pack.