Continued from [url=http://rabble.ca/babble/international-news-and-politics/ongoing-zionist-...
The Ongoing Zionist Campaign to Suppress All Criticism of Israel Continues
Sat, 2011-03-12 17:40
#1
M. Spector
The Ongoing Zionist Campaign to Suppress All Criticism of Israel Continues
Sat, 2011-03-12 17:41
#2
M. Spector
[url=http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=211155]Israel Apartheid Week, and efforts to combat it, begin[/url]
In an interview with The Jerusalem Post, the group NGO Monitor has announced its efforts to combat Israeli Apartheid Week (IAW) with the "BDS Sewer System" which provides detailed information, in graphic form, on the sources of delegitimization campaigns against Israel....Copies of the Sewer System have been sent to students at Columbia, the University of Maryland, Rutgers, UCLA, University of California at Berkley, UC Santa Cruz, UC Irvine, and the University of Washington, as well as to the American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise, the Israel on Campus Coalition, Scholars for Peace in the Middle East, and others to distribute to their campus representatives.
Sun, 2011-03-13 20:11
#3
Israel Stands Alone - by Michael Coren
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/michael_coren/2011/03/11/17...
"I will defend all of my beliefs, but one of the ideas I am most proud of is Zionism. No apologies, no hiding, no doubts. Zionism is arguably the most successful examples of the restoration of an indigenous people to their rightful homeland in human history. It is a liberation struggle, a story of the creation of a light on the hill, that light being the Jewish state in the Middle East...
[on IAW] It's a lie, a blood libel, a politically motivated and blatantly dishonest campaign to use Soviet style propaganda to codemn Jews...a death-dark celebration of doublespeak and anti-intellectual posing.."
LOL!
Thu, 2011-03-24 21:21
#4
M. Spector
[url=http://www.queensjournal.ca/story/2011-03-11/news/rectors-actions-questi...'s University rector faces "impeachment" proceeding for supporting IAW.[/url]
[url=http://www.petitiononline.com/querect/petition.html]Online petition in support of Academic Freedom and Freedom of Speech at Queen's.[/url]
Update: Less than 27% of the eligible voters voted, but the vote was 72% to 28% in favour of impeaching the Rector for criticizing Ignatieff. As a result, the issue will be presented to the University Council on May 7, where a decision will be made whether to remove him. His term of office ends in May anyway, so it's really just a propaganda victory for the Zionists.
Wed, 2011-03-30 17:10
#5
there was a great letter to the editor today in the winnipeg free press.
they had published a few letters denouncing/supporting IAW, and have had editorials in the past that were anti IAW...
the letter said "since you've printed several letters and editorials about IAW, is it too much to ask for you to send a reporter down there and cover it?"
great point!
Thu, 2011-03-31 17:59
#6
M. Spector
Once again, Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle east is faced with a discriminatory attempt to force the cancellation of one of its events.
Late Friday, CJPME received an email from the YWCA in Hamilton cancelling a contract to rent an auditorium to CJPME for a lecture by William Parry on April 2nd. The YWCA claimed that the booking conflicted with a pre-scheduled YWCA booking, despite the fact that the availability of the auditorium had been repeatedly confirmed by YWCA staff since March 16th and that the $200 rental fee had been paid.
The cancellation took place the day after the YWCA received the following threatening email from a group purporting to represent Hamilton's Jewish community:
I see that you are holding a propaganda "art" display and I fail to see the logic of alienating an entire sector of the Hamilton community to put on what is essentially a blood libel against Jews/Israel.I am a member of the Never Again Group and we would like to know why you have chosen to highlight a controversial display of "art" that has no basis in truth and which vilifies and demonizes Israel. Surely you must know by now that this campaign against Israel ignores all the terrorism and totalitarianism in the region that makes security a top priority in Israel, a place that accepts people of all cultures, colour and religions unlike the dictatorships now killing their own people who are fighting to decide if some form of freedom or just more anarchy, hate and war will prevail in these troubled countries.
This art display would be more appropriate were it to reveal the unexplored tyranny in Muslim countries.
etc. etc. [i]ad nauseam[/i]
After receiving a letter from a CJPME lawyer on March 28th, the YWCA said that the scheduling conflict had been resolved, but that CJPME would have to pay $600 for police security to retain its booking. The move by the YWCA would effectively quadruple the cost of hosting the event.
William Parry is a photojournalist based in London and has lived and worked in the Middle East for many years. He has been published in The Guardian and The Independent and a number of other magazines and journals. He has also written for the Washington Review of Middle East Affairs, The Middle East, Times Higher Education Supplement, and several electronic news organizations.
This is the second time in two months that a Hamilton institution has bowed to pressure by an extreme and intolerant pro-Israel lobby group. In February, Mohawk College imposed onerous security costs at the last minute for a hall rented by CJPME for a lecture by US scholar Dr. Norman Finkelstein. The event had to be moved to a local church, where Finkelstein spoke to a crowd at event hosted without incident.
[url=http://www.cjpme.org/DisplayDocument.aspx?DocumentID=1512]Read the March 29 press release of CJPME[/url]
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Update March 31:
Dear friends of CJPME,
We would like to express our greatest appreciation to all of you who took the time to respond to CJPME's action alert on the YWCA's attempt to force the cancelation of CJPME's Parry event in Hamilton. Since yesterday scores of you emailed and called the YWCA in Hamilton to let them know that their demand for $600 in police security fees was unacceptable. We were strongly encouraged by your massive participation and your extraordinary support for this CJPME initiative and its overall work.You'll be happy to learn that, as a result of your efforts, [b]the YWCA has decided to waive the onerous security charges and let William Parry's lecture go ahead as planned on Saturday, April 2nd[/b]. Such a positive outcome would not have been possible without your participation and support. Many thanks again!
Thu, 2011-04-07 11:44
#7
Catchfire
Jenny Peto: Why the town of Markham is so concerned about Israeli Apartheid Week
The battle over Israeli Apartheid Week (IAW) has reached "the 905" as the Town of Markham, a suburb just north of Toronto, has decided to take its own swing at IAW. Councillor Howard Shore introduced a motion calling on the Town of Markham to ban IAW and to pressure York University to do the same. The motion was first debated in March 2011 and will be brought to council again on April 11, 2011.The motion itself is quite puzzling because no IAW events take place in Markham - IAW is campus-based and Markham has no universities. This begs the question of why the Town of Markham is making the move to ban an event that does not take place within its jurisdiction. The answers to this question, I believe, shed light not only on the situation in Markham, but also provide important context to the attacks on IAW and pro-Palestine activism across Canada....
While there is a compelling case to argue that this motion is simply a manoeuvre to pander to the pro-Israel base in Markham, there are certainly other factors at play. One central issue is economic ties between the Town of Markham and Israel. Shore has boasted of the plans for Markham to send a trade delegation to Israel in order to intensify their economic cooperation. This delegation is in partnership with York University, which is not surprisingly targeted by Shore's motion. It is no coincidence that as Markham is set to increase its trade relations with Israel, they are moving to silence any criticism of their important business partner. This tactic is not new or unique to Markham. In 2010, shortly after the condemnation of IAW, Premier Dalton McGuinty went on a highly-publicized trade mission to Israel. In Manitoba, a province with strong economic ties to Israel, attempts have been made to condemn IAW provincially and the University of Winnipeg administration has been trying harder than most to ban IAW through bureaucratic hurdles, including booking all rooms on campus during the March week of events this year. The Town of Markham's motion is simply the first attempt at the municipal level. Attacking Palestine solidarity activism has now become a key element of any efforts to strengthen trade with Israel - crush dissent so that you can carry out business as usual.
ETA: Gah! The spam filter will not let me post the link to this article for some reason. It's from the socialist project.ca
Thu, 2011-05-05 14:09
#8
Canadian Arab Federation
La Fédération Canado-Arabe
PRESS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Markham City Council bans criticism of Apartheid regimes
May 4, 2011
Yesterday, a majority of Councillors from Markham City Council adopted a motion to censor “Israeli Apartheid Week” that is organized each year in March by students on Canadian universities.
Israeli Apartheid Week (IAW) is a week of lectures and film screenings that takes place peacefully on campuses each year and hosts prominent academics and community leaders to very high-level political and academic discussions.
IAW condemns all forms of racism and discrimination. It explicitly condemns anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, anti-Arab racism, and homophobia. Many Jewish students are involved in organizing IAW.
This year, for the seventh year, IAW was held in 95 cities and more than 75 universities on six continents, including 3 cities in Israel and 4 cities in the occupied West Bank and Gaza.
Ironically, the motion passed by Markham City Council aims to deny Canadian students and academics the rights of freedom of expression and academic freedom, rights that are enjoyed by Israeli students and academics. In addition it interferes in University affairs.
The motion creates the absurd situation where Canadian students and academics are allowed to freely criticize their own government but are banned from criticizing a foreign government.
The motion put forward by Councillor Shore is one of those several attempts currently being undertaken to censor and suppress public debate on this subject in order to shield Israel’s actions from scrutiny and criticism.
Such actions are an attack on free speech the likes of which we have not seen since the 1950s McCarthy witch hunts.
By its decision, Markham City Council ignored the comprehensive study undertaken by Toronto City staff that determined the use of the phrase “Israeli Apartheid” does not promote hatred or discrimination, and does not violate the Criminal Code or the Ontario Human Rights Code.
Markham City Council also ignored the compelling evidence introduced from the Human Sciences Research Council of South Africa, the Conference of Southern African Christian Churches, the Association of Civil Rights of Israel and the Legal Centre for Arab Minority Rights in Israel, that irrefutably proves Palestinian Arab citizens of Israel are systematically discriminated against and that the situation in the occupied West Bank and Gaza is reminiscent of apartheid in South Africa.
The spectrum of diversity was well-represented by those who spoke against the motion and in support of free speech and Palestinian rights. Those presenters included Jews, Christians and Muslims of all ages and gender, and from various ethnic and racial backgrounds.
Understandably, Councillor Shore’s motion placed the other Councillors in a corner. Markham City Council had unfortunately decided recently to send a trade mission to Israel. The rejection of Councillor Shore’s motion would have implied that they condone the labelling of Israel as an Apartheid state and would have placed them in the awkward position of doing business with an apartheid regime.
Regrettably, this politically expedient decision runs counter to the Town of Markham’s stated mission to recognize and accept the diversity of its residents, to respect the differences in all peoples and their right to hold different opinions, to promote the value of human rights, and to oppose racism and discrimination.
Thu, 2011-05-05 14:41
#9
In a rare move, the trustees of the City University of New York have voted to shelve an honorary degree that one of its campuses, John Jay College, planned to award to Tony Kushner, the Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright of "Angels in America." The vote on Monday evening came after a CUNY trustee said that Mr. Kushner had disparaged the State of Israel in past comments, a characterization that the writer attacked on Wednesday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/nyregion/cuny-blocks-honor-for-tony-ku...
Thu, 2011-05-05 16:51
#10
Catchfire
Bullshit.
Fri, 2011-05-06 00:49
#11
Al-Q 's quote from the article :
"Ironically, the motion passed by Markham City Council aims to deny Canadian students and academics the rights of freedom of expression and academic freedom, rights that are enjoyed by Israeli students and academics. In addition it interferes in University affairs.
"The motion creates the absurd situation where Canadian students and academics are allowed to freely criticize their own government but are banned from criticizing a foreign government."
And "where Canadian students and academics are allowed to freely criticize their own government..." But that's the rub, eh? This could be a situation - hardwon over centuries of protest and war - terribly foreshortened by such hugely ignorant acts.
Fri, 2011-05-06 16:21
#12
Catchfire
John Jay’s procedures for awarding honorary degrees are unusual; the selections are made by an elected committee of the Faculty Senate. At the time I was nominated for the award, the John Jay administration had recently caved in to outside political pressures to end the employment of an adjunct instructor. Because of my scholarship on academic freedom, the faculty committee hoped that by honoring my work, the college would be making a quasi-official statement that it would not allow such a violation of academic freedom to recur.And, it has not. The refusal to grant Tony Kushner the honorary degree John Jay’s faculty and administration wanted to give him is the doing of CUNY’s trustees who – officially at least – have the final say. But that action, though legal, is a violation of academic freedom. The trustees invoked illegitimate political factors to override a carefully considered decision by the John Jay faculty....
Moreover, because more than 70 percent of all the instruction in American institutions of higher education is now in the hands of men and women with part-time or temporary positions, academic freedom is particularly at risk. These faculty members have no job security, and thus no academic freedom, whatsoever. Unless they are protected by a union contract, they can be fired at any time, for any reason, or for no reason at all. In addition, because their reappointments depend on student evaluations, few are tempted to raise controversial issues, challenge their students, or even give low grades.
Sat, 2011-05-07 13:57
#13
Catchfire
And (via Maysie): Barbara Ehrenreich returns honorary degree too!
Dear Trustees of CUNY,
In 2004 I was proud to receive an honorary degree from John Jay College in recognition, as I recall, for my work exposing poverty and promoting social justice. At the time, it did not occur to me to question John Jay’s qualifications for awarding such an honor. But today, having read of the Trustees’ vote to deny a similar honorary degree to playwright and activist Tony Kushner-- as well as Jeffrey Wiesenfeld’s comment in the New York Times suggesting that Palestinians “are not human”—I do have to question both your qualifications and the legitimacy of the honorary degree I was given.
Hence my decision to renounce my own honorary degree, which I will return to you if I can find it. Please expunge me from your record of past honorees.
Sincerely,
Mon, 2011-05-09 20:52
#14
Catchfire
Reversing an earlier vote, the board of the City University of New York decided tonight to award an honorary degree to the playwright Tony Kushner following a five-day debate about Israel and academia. That's according to various reports from the board meeting.The board last week blocked a proposed honor for Kushner after one member, Jeffrey Wiesenfeld, opposed the honor because of Kushner's critical statements about Israel and its policies toward the Palestinians. Wiesenfeld, a right-wing pro-Israel activist, later described Kushner as a "Jewish anti-Semite" and suggested Palestinians are "not human" because they "worship death for their children."
After the episode was publicized on Wednesday, the backlash began almost immediately. Prominent academics and literary figures weighed in in favor of Kushner, and several previous CUNY honorary degree recipients returned their honors, or threatened to do so, in protest of the move.
Kushner previously said he would not accept any honor from CUNY; it's unclear whether he will now change his mind.
This is the second time this year that CUNY has reversed itself in a controversy related to Israel. The previous incident involved an adjunct professor who lost his job after his syllabus for a Mideast politics course was criticized as not sufficiently favorable to Israel. (Wiesenfeld also played a role in that case.) The instructor, Kristofer Petersen-Overton, was rehired after widespread criticism of CUNY.
Mon, 2011-05-09 20:55
#15
Great news!! Thanks CF.
Mon, 2011-05-09 21:44
#16
I have never heard of this guy before but apparently this Jeffrey Weisenfeld guys is just loads on extremely racist toward, Palestinians like really, really obsessed. As in possibly worse that Horowittz or Dershowitz. Even a NY Times reporter took offense.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/06/nyregion/opponent-of-honor-for-tony-ku...
http://absurdbeats.wordpress.com/2011/05/06/jeffrey-wiesenfeld-go-fuck-y...
Sun, 2011-05-15 11:37
#17
Having stood on the wrong side of history during the Tunisian and then the Egyptian revolutions, supporting the despots and authoritarian regimes against the people, Israel has a lot to lose from the democratic winds of change in the region. When Hosni Mubarak was about to be overthrown by the people's revolution in Egypt Israel launched a diplomatic campaign to convince key Western capitals to support him lest stability is lost and Israel's other tyrannical friends in the region feel abandoned.
In Tunisia, as well, the vaunted electronic surveillance apparatus of the former dictator Ben-Ali was run in close cooperation with Israel, as exposed by Tunisian civil society organizations. With more of Israel's friends in the region being dethroned, it is becoming abundantly clear how much Israel and its Western partners have invested in safeguarding and buttressing the unelected, autocratic regimes in the Arab world, partially to make a self-fulfilling prophecy of Israel as the "villa in the midst of the jungle" -- the myth often repeated by AIPAC. The impact of debunking that myth cannot be overstated. Israel has, for decades, extracted billions of dollars, not to mention diplomatic, political, and scientific support from the U.S. and European states partially based on this misleading image of Israeli democracy, and despite all the evidence to the contrary
Sun, 2011-05-15 15:22
#18
AIPAC 101: What Every American Should Know - Anthony Lawson (vid)
Wed, 2011-05-25 13:50
#19
You have to see this video to believe it. AIPAC members being interviewed repeatedly deny that Palestinians are occupied. Their vitriol (we've seen the same tired "arguments" on babble for years) is matched only by their ignorance of basic facts; one AIPAC lobbyist doesn't even know that Pakistan and Palestine are two separate areas.
Wed, 2011-05-25 18:48
#20
Is it ignorance or is it an attempt to cloud and confuse? Most North Americans are woefully ignorant about these issues so you can get way with anything so long as it in some way seems to fit in with that column of being pro-Israeli. Years ago the Mossad used fake Canadian passports to carry out a kidnapping. Immediately afterward all sorts of echo chamber outlets spouted off fears about future Islamic/Arab terrorists using fake Canadian passports that it clouded the discussion of who did. Hillary Clinton even said the falsehood that the 9-11 hijackers used Canadian passports to get into the US (they did not). This is about who controls the discussion and in North American that is the Right and a subset of that is the pro-Israeli right. Look how many Rightist bots have invaded rabble lately.
Wed, 2011-06-08 16:19
#21
M. Spector
The Knesset House Committee has voted to strip MK Haneen Zoabi of her privileges as a Member of the Knesset, including the right to hold a diplomatic passport, in order to prevent her from participating in the second humanitarian Gaza aid flotilla next month.
- [url=http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=224107]Jerusalem Post[/url]
Thu, 2011-06-09 20:16
#22
Wow!!! Its as if she has secondary (or less) status as an MK or as a human being. Oh yeah! Another characteristic of apartheid.
The Knesset House Committee has voted to strip MK Haneen Zoabi of her privileges as a Member of the Knesset, including the right to hold a diplomatic passport, in order to prevent her from participating in the second humanitarian Gaza aid flotilla next month.
- [url=http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=224107]Jerusalem Post[/url]
Thu, 2011-06-09 20:46
#23
knownothing
Yesterday On Power and Politics Ian Capstick said the NDP should keep their mouths shut concerning Middle East Issues. He says there is nothing we can do as 4th party, official opposition or as the Government of Canada so it is smart to not say anything. Greg Weston said, "I hope not".
Man that Capstick is spineless.
Thu, 2011-06-30 23:31
#24
M. Spector
What will those modern-day McCarthys in the Israeli Knesset think up next?By now we’ve all become accustomed to the creepy, liberty-limiting laws emerging every few months or so from the right-wing (though hardly always right-wing) precincts of the Israeli Knesset. I’m thinking, of course, of the Nakba law, the Loyalty Oath law, the law requiring NGO’s to declare their sources of funding, and so on and so on and so on.
But the last few weeks have seen a flurry of anti-Democratic efforts that have been impressive even by the current Knesset’s standards. There was the bill proposed earlier this month by four right-wing members of Knesset that would give the government the power to disband existing NGOs and refuse to register new ones if they “deny the Jewish character of the State” – a clear jab at the country’s Arab population. More recently, on Sunday, two proposals were presented to the Ministerial Legislation Committee, each designed to limit the amount of money “political” NGOs can receive from foreign entities – and foreign entities, by the way, include the United Nations and the European Union.
Now there is “The Bill to Prevent Harm to the State of Israel Through Boycotts.” That’s right, a law that would make it a civil violation to call publicly for a boycott of the State of Israel.
[url=http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/knesset-committee-outdoes-itself-with-bill... on[/url]
Thu, 2011-06-30 23:34
#25
Boom Boom
Man that Capstick is spineless.
What is his official capacity in the NDP, if any?
Fri, 2011-07-01 08:54
#26
Northern Shoveler
Man that Capstick is spineless.
What is his official capacity in the NDP, if any?
Head sycophant although there are others giving him a run for the title.
ie. A servile self-seeker who attempts to win favor by flattering influential people
Fri, 2011-07-08 16:21
#27
Catchfire
Socred, please abstain from speculating about a person's character, intentions or integrity based on their (perceived) ethnicity, religion or race. And don't ever call someone a "damped Jew" again. This is your final warning.
Fri, 2011-07-08 16:45
#28
What does it mean to call somebody "damped", anyway? are Coren't socks wet or something?
Fri, 2011-07-08 16:48
#29
....their homeland" is the biggest lie perpetrated in the course of humanity in my opinion.
Well, perhaps the second biggest.
Is anyone else waiting for the other foot to drop and later read what the biggest lie ever perpetrated is in Socred's opinion?
Fri, 2011-07-08 21:21
#30
Need I remind Socred that many Jews do not support Israel and feel absolutely no attachment to it. Israel is Not representative of Jewish people the world over, and the practices of said state are protested as well by caring Jews who reside there.
Fri, 2011-07-08 22:06
#31
M. Spector
What does it mean to call somebody "damped", anyway? are Coren't socks wet or something?
It's a reference to Christian baptism - a suggestion that the person is trying to pass as a Christian, or at least a non-Jew. The term is clearly not appropriate in Coren's case, quite apart from any question of its offensiveness.
Sat, 2011-07-09 09:07
#32
Need I remind Socred that many Jews do not support Israel and feel absolutely no attachment to it. Israel is Not representative of Jewish people the world over, and the practices of said state are protested as well by caring Jews who reside there.
No, absolutely not. There are Jews who oppose Zionism. Norman Finklestein, Jews Against Zionism, and even Karl Marx as well as many others.
Unfortunately, these Jews are labelled "self-hating Jews", or in the ultimate irony "anti-Semitic" Jews, by Zionists.
There is a powerful lobby attempting to stifle all criticism of Zionism.
Sat, 2011-07-09 11:02
#33
M. Spector
What does it mean to call somebody "damped", anyway? are Coren't socks wet or something?
It's a reference to Christian baptism - a suggestion that the person is trying to pass as a Christian, or at least a non-Jew. The term is clearly not appropriate in Coren's case, quite apart from any question of its offensiveness.
Are you claiming that Mr. Coren's name does not come from "Cohen"?
Are you claiming to be older than twelve?
Sat, 2011-07-09 13:17
#34
Socred - does that come from Redsox? What are you trying to pitch here?
Sat, 2011-07-09 13:22
#35
Catchfire
I wasn't speculating on Mr. Coren's character or integrity based upon his race. I was merely pointing out the fact that his name is actually Jewish because it's a derivation of the name "Cohen".
Michael "Coren" is a damped Jew.Coren derives from the Jewish name Cohen.
Is there any wonder why he's pro-Zionist?
Like I said, don't draw conclusions based on a person's presumed ethnicity.
I apologize for using the above term, but it was meant to be a statement of fact, not a derogatory term. The term is used in books published by the Judaic publishing company, and distributed by Amazon.com
I don't know what your link is supposed to prove, but your term is neither a statement of fact nor non-derogatory. It is a hateful term with a hateful history. Use it on Stormfront, not here.
You don't need to refer to someone's race or religion at all in such a context. "Zionist" does just fine.
Now that this is settled, back to the discussion please.
Sat, 2011-07-09 13:59
#36
What does it mean to call somebody "damped", anyway? are Coren't socks wet or something?
It's a reference to Christian baptism - a suggestion that the person is trying to pass as a Christian, or at least a non-Jew. The term is clearly not appropriate in Coren's case, quite apart from any question of its offensiveness.
Are you claiming that Mr. Coren's name does not come from "Cohen"?
Are you claiming to be older than twelve?
Is that the best argument that you have?
Sat, 2011-07-09 14:25
#37
Socred - does that come from Redsox? What are you trying to pitch here?
The truth.
Sat, 2011-07-09 14:34
#38
Does a person's name have any connection to a person's religious beliefs?
Sat, 2011-07-09 14:38
#39
Does a person's name have any connection to a person's religious beliefs?
Are Jews a religion or a race?
Sat, 2011-07-09 14:52
#40
I believe it's a religion.
Given those two choices.
Sat, 2011-07-09 14:57
#41
I just found this reply by Mr. Coren to my comments.
http://blogs.canoe.ca/corenscomment/consider-this/im-a-damped-jew/
I guess the media is hurting for news stories.
Of course, the resorts to ad-hominem are to be expected when you question Zionist motives.
My comment was "screaming" - lmao!
Then he makes the claim that "this sort of racism is common of the left", implying that I have anything to do with the "left" because I happened to post a comment on Rabble.ca And implying that my statements were "racist" because I pointed out the fact that he is Jewish in relation to his article on Zionism.
Talk about prejudiced conclusions!
He also points out that the people who own this place are "French Canadians", and a "German/Baltic" guy who runs it.
Talk about racism!!!
Sat, 2011-07-09 14:59
#42
I believe it's a religion.
Given those two choices.
I happen to agree with you.
But that's not the "textbook" definition.
A person can be "Jewish" by birth.
Sat, 2011-07-09 15:03
#43
I was a catholic by birth or shortly thereafter. Didn't really take with me but the church still counts me as one. I wasnt trying to disrupt the thread just wanted some context on some of the drift.
Sat, 2011-07-09 16:40
#44
Catchfire
Socred, I am not arguing with you. I am not discussing this with you. I made my position clear: don't use the term again, or you'll be banned from the site. And stop derailing this thread, or you'll be suspended.
Sat, 2011-07-09 16:49
#45
I haven't used the term again as per your request.
And I wasn't trying to disrupt the thread with any "drift".
I made my point in more ways than one.
Sat, 2011-07-09 16:53
#46
Are you claiming that Mr. Coren's name does not come from "Cohen"?
I am. Because I actually know what I'm talking about.
They key root in "Coren" is "or" which is Hebrew for "light". "Cohen" is an anglocization of the word "Kohain" which means "priest" and is a common last name for descendents of Aaron, the first "kohain gadol" or "high priest".
Further, Michael Coren's father is Jewish, his mother is not. Given that Judaism is matrilineal, Coren is NO type of Jew. But, hey, way to not let easily verifiable facts get in the way of your Jew-baiting conspiracy theories.
I, on the other hand just went for an evening swim and THIS Jew is still a bit "damped". So let your diatribes begin...
Sat, 2011-07-09 16:53
#47
Hey Socred, could you do yourself a favour, do rabble.ca a favour, and for the clarification to the rest of the world and go to Coren's blog and actually point out that you are a proponent of the Social Credit movement, of Douglas, and so forth? That might help your cause and help rabble.ca point out what an awful distorter of reality that Coren continues to be in his realm and in Canada generally.
It is just one of a whole host of facts that Coren has ignored for his own agenda, just on this particular point alone.
I just found this reply by Mr. Coren to my comments.
http://blogs.canoe.ca/corenscomment/consider-this/im-a-damped-jew/
I guess the media is hurting for news stories.
Of course, the resorts to ad-hominem are to be expected when you question Zionist motives.
My comment was "screaming" - lmao!
Then he makes the claim that "this sort of racism is common of the left", implying that I have anything to do with the "left" because I happened to post a comment on Rabble.ca And implying that my statements were "racist" because I pointed out the fact that he is Jewish in relation to his article on Zionism.
Talk about prejudiced conclusions!
He also points out that the people who own this place are "French Canadians", and a "German/Baltic" guy who runs it.
Talk about racism!!!
Sat, 2011-07-09 19:15
#48
M. Spector
What does it mean to call somebody "damped", anyway? are Coren't socks wet or something?
It's a reference to Christian baptism - a suggestion that the person is trying to pass as a Christian, or at least a non-Jew. The term is clearly not appropriate in Coren's case, quite apart from any question of its offensiveness.
Are you claiming that Mr. Coren's name does not come from "Cohen"?
Are you claiming to be older than twelve?
Is that the best argument that you have?
I'll take that as a "no".
Sat, 2011-07-09 20:03
#49
I'll take that as a "no".
Give it a rest. I'm probably older than you are, and certainly much older than 12.
Weak attempt to try to get me kicked of this message board because you disagree with my statements.
Sat, 2011-07-09 20:56
#50
Northern Shoveler
I actually thought about it, but in order to post on his blog, I have to leave my email address, and I don't want any harassment by him or anyone he knows.
Hopefully, someone will send him this reply.
I guess you just don't understand how easy it is to get many e-mail addresses. Otherwise I might think you were being purposely disingenuous.
First week learning how to run a computer?
Sun, 2011-07-10 00:55
#51
It is just one of a whole host of facts that Coren has ignored for his own agenda, just on this particular point alone.
I can't believe that he has to look at posts on some website for "news".