Oslo Explosion II

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howeird beale

"1492

The teachers told the children that this was when their continent was discovered by human beings. Actually, millions of human beings were already living full and imaginative lives on the continent in 1492. That was simply the year in which sea pirates began to cheat and rob and kill them.

Here was another piece of nonsence which children were taught: that the sea pirates eventually created a government which became a beacon of freedom of human beings everywhere else. There were pictures and statues of this supposed imaginary beacon for children to see. It was sort of ice-cream cone on fire...

Actually, the sea pirates who had the most to do with the creation of the new government owned human slaves. They used human beings for machinery, and, even after slavery was eliminated, because it was so embarrassing, they and their descendants continued to think of ordinary human beings as machines.

The sea pirates were white. The people who were already on the continent when the pirates arrived were copper-colored. When slavery was introduced onto the continent, the slaves were black.
Color was everything.

Here is how the pirates were able to take whatever they wanted from anybody else: they had the best boats in the world, and they were meaner than anybody else, and they had gunpowder, which s a mixture of potassium nitrate, charcoal, and sulphur. They touched the seemingly listless powder with fire, and it turned violently into gas. This gas blew projectiles out of metal tubes at terrific velocities. The projectiles cut through meat and bone very easily; so the pirates could wreck the wiring or the bellows or the plumbing of a stubborn human being, even when he was far, far away.

The chief weapon of the sea pirates, however, was their capacity to astonish. Nobody else could believe, until it was much too late, how heartless and greedy they were."

-Kurt Vonnegut, Breakfast of the Champions

NDPP

The Rise of Knights Templar Europe

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/191066.html

"The ramifications of what the Norwegian anti-Muslim terrorist Anders Behring Breivik did are beginning to unravel to the horror of the international community..."

ps:

Freemasons Open Lodge At Buckingham Palace...But The Queen Isn't Amused

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-528751/Freemasons-open-lodge-Buc...

"The Duke of Kent, the Queen's cousin, is Grand Master..."

NDPP

After Oslo: Europe, Islam and the Mainstreaming Of Racism

http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index/2239/after-oslo_europe-islam-and-th...

"Perhaps the least convincing claim about Breivik has been the idea that he operated alone. Far from being a lone madman, Breivik seems to have been embedded in the activist networks of the European far-right.."

the question for Canadians is how long the right racist hate-network campaigners, like the JDL-EDL will be permitted to continue their dirty work here?

6079_Smith_W

@ NDPP #102

Perhaps she's not amused because their big clown shows leave scuff marks on the palace floor and all the empty seltzer bottles lying around.  Come on.... that article is from the Daily Mail. Of course they are going to point fingers at the Masons and the Templars. 

After all, Dan Brown conspiracy theory  politics is much easier to swallow than real politics.

And I think the racists and right wing extremists are just fine with that because it takes the public;s eye off of the EDL, The Progress Party and real extremists.

And they probably also love it because it inflames the public's tendency to find scapegoats, which is, after all, the extremists' best tool.

 

6079_Smith_W

I Never said we should ignore connections between real organizations. Quite the opposite.

My point is that stories about Masons and Templars is just as much a distraction as Hitler's Parzival and Norse imagery. 

Or who knows. Maybe I'll go get my brother in law drunk this weekend and he can spill their whole plot for world domination.

 

NDPP

it was a PS...

but the very real, declared alliance between the EDL and the JDL Canada is hardly a 'Dan Brown conspiracy theory' - as the 'real racists' JDL-Canada organized TDSB anti-Muslim demo just days ago clearly demonstrates...

NDPP

6079_Smith_W wrote:

I Never said we should ignore connections between real organizations. Quite the opposite.

NDPP

I agree. The thread concerns Breivik who self identified not only as a Zionist with connections to the EDL-JDL , but self identified as both a Mason and Templar - thus the PS. The intent is very much as you say NOT to ignore connections as seems to have been the case prior on this board with respect to the JDL-EDL hate networks' operation here. Those connections, as you will agree lead straight to the 'mainstream'.

6079_Smith_W

His homemade stripes and uniforms notwithstanding, there actually is no connection with the masons, and his self-identifying is about as relevant to his  as his self identifying as a right-handed person.

I might self-identify as Napoleon, but that does not make it so.

And I think in one early report he was identified as a former mason. That might mean something.

It's not like he is the first person to take masonic imagery (and even the masonic rituals)  and run with it, after all. 

Nor is this the first time people have blamed them for plots and conspiracies because they are so darned sneaky.

 

 

 

NDPP

apparently not, which the PS also demonstrated. In Breivik's case 'run with it' is a bit of an understatement, what?

6079_Smith_W

NDPP wrote:

apparently not, which the PS also demonstrated. In Breivik's case 'run with it' is a bit of an understatement, what?

Well I can thnk of one group which tried to set themselves up as their own brand of Masonry (until the neighbouring lodges put a stop to that), and who later committed the Mountain Meadows Massacre.

But anyway. Good that we agree that any hints that there is is a connection to Masonic lodges or anyone who is a member are completely unfounded, and a distraction.

 

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