Libya 21: An Urgent Call for Humanitarian Intervention in Sirte and Bani Walid
Fri, 2011-10-07 13:02
#1
Libya 21: An Urgent Call for Humanitarian Intervention in Sirte and Bani Walid
Fri, 2011-10-07 13:09
#2
An Urgent Call for Humanitarian Intervention in Sirt and Bani Walid, Libya
http://www.algeria-isp.com/actualites/politique-libya/201110-A6347/urgen...
"Dear Sir/Madam
I am writing to you to inform you, irrespective of political interests, about the disastrous situations in the Libyan cities of Sirte and Bani Walid, which are facing genocide as well as the widespread devastation of their infrastructures..."
Please forward this to MPs, who after all, helped make this happen..
Sat, 2011-10-08 05:54
#3
Video: NATO Helicopters Engaged in Attack on Sirte
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/881...
Libya Revolutionaries Burn, Loot Village Homes
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/05/world/la-fg-libya-fighting-20111006
"...With a dispersed command structure, leaders of some Misurata brigades have been unable to control their men. Some said they feared even greater reprisals as Misurata militia's advance.."
Iraq Offers Its 'Experience' to Libya's NTC
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=iraq-offers-its-8216experience8...
"Prime Minister Maliki offered the experience of Iraq in rebuilding the state, writing a constitution and holding elections,' said Maliki's media advisor Al Mussawi. 'The two sides found similarities between the two regimes..."
no doubt...
Sat, 2011-10-08 06:13
#4
Libyan Fighters Demand Jews' Expulsion
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/203391.html
"Libyan revolutionaries have held a protest rally in Libya's second largest city, Benghazi, to demand the expulsion of immigrant Jews from the post-revolutionary North African country..."
Sat, 2011-10-08 07:27
#5
Battle for Libya 'Far From Over' (and vid)
http://rt.com/news/libya-far-from-end-345/
"The battle is far from over,' says activist and journalist Sukant Chandan. 'It is now clear to the world that civilians are being targeted in Sirte,' he says. of the AFP reports on civilian casualties. 'Nevertheless Sirte is still resisting.."
your tax dollars and your RCAF Lt. Gen Charles Bouchard, that chooses all targets, Canada...
Sat, 2011-10-08 22:22
#6
Bani Walid Can't Be Taken, So MSM Ignore It
http://www.luikkerland.com/luikkerlog/author/admin
"The Libyan War, as well as being a good demonstration of the out-and-out perversion of our criminal political elite (that's why I've dwelt upon it), also offers an opportunity to show how the media insists on double-think in its consumer-ship.
For instance, Al Qaeda is bad, but Al Qaeda is good. Kinetic military action is not war (therefore a nuclear warhead strike is not war). War itself is peace-keeping, [Canucklheads love that one!] Protecting civilians is bombing them...
Ethnic cleansing is not ethnic cleansing, and neither is systematic murder of black people a genocide. Holding some of Tripoli is to capture the capital city and Libya. It goes on and on.
NATO and their Al Qaeda associates can only execute this theatre of endless (but deadly) charades that is the Libyan War, because so many people...are able to do the double-thinking that their governments [and 'loyal' Opposition] require of them; That in itself is an indication of their slavery...
And now only the taking of Sirte is required for 'full liberation' to be declared...
What's so worrying is how this manipulation of the preception of reality through the corporate media is so blatant, and yet people cannot equate it with their own bondage; they cannot see (and they aren't interested in being told), that the systematic and widespread adherence to the perceived weight of corporate media is the first chain that needs to be cut loose..."
Mon, 2011-10-10 02:48
#7
NATO Bombing, Al Qaeda and the Arab Spring
http://www.shahidulnews.com/2011/10/invasion-of-libya-i/
"But why attack Libya? Is it the oil? Samir Amin thinks not, no, it's not oil that they are after - they already have that. Their goal is to put Libya under their tutelage to establish Africom. African countries had regretted its establishment in Africa.
What occurred in Libya was no popular uprising, but purely NATO's war. From the beginning the rebels depended completely on the military, political, diplomatic and media power of NATO, without which the de facto mercenaries would not have lasted a month, holed up in Benghazi.
The near total destruction of Libya, a secular regime with the highest standard of living in Africa, was meant to be a lesson. A message from the imperialists to the newly aroused masses of North Africa, Asia and Latin America. The fate of Libya awaits any regime which aspires to greater independence or questions the ascendancy of Euro-American power.
A bloody sight. NATO's leaders. Protecting to kill, killing to protect.."
Libyan Leader Muammar Qaddafi - October 6 Message:
http://mathaba.net/news/?x=628910
"...the NTC has no legitimacy because it hasn't been nominated or appointed by the people. How did it get its legitimacy? Did the Libyan people elect them? Did the Libyan people appoint them? If only the power of NATO fleets gives legitimacy, then let the rulers in the Third World be ready for a NATO invasion too...'
Mon, 2011-10-10 02:52
#8
Assange: Superpower Takeover of Libya a Lesson to World (vid)
Mon, 2011-10-10 15:12
#9
So, Khaddafy finally changed his mind and allowed Jews back in Libya and apologized for the 1970 expulsion, and now the "revolutionaries" are calling for their expulsion. I guess it's the fundamentalist Islamists' doing... Khaddafy's sworn enemies? It's truly dizzying to watch the wheel of fortune spin around and around. Where, I wonder, does Israel, who hated Khaddafy so, stand on all this?
First the Blacks were victimized en masse, now the Jews are being threatened. The Christians can't be far behind, judging from the situation of the Copts in Egypt.
Humanitarian intervention on their behalf, anyone?
Tue, 2011-10-11 12:23
#10
UN Silent Despite No Grounds for NATO War on Libya
http://mathaba.net/news/?x=628935
"Muammar Gaddafi is proven right yet again, when he observed years ago that the UN wouldn't have the moral courage to stand up to the powerful NATO nations...
The situation in Sirte is dire. Six weeks under siege after months of aerial attacks. Children and old people dead of hunger and thirst. Water supply hit. Hospitals without medical supplies to treat the ill and injured, and then bombed by NATO. The dead lying in the streets. Constant 'targeted' nightly aerial bombardment by NATO air forces. [All targeting decisions are approved by Canada's Lt. Gen Charles 'The Butcher' Bouchard, NATO Commander, Operation Unified Protector]
Constant 'fire at will' daytime attacks from ill-disciplined NTC rebels using tanks, rockets, mortars and howitzers..."
Wed, 2011-10-12 13:05
#11
Libya Update (and vids)
http://libyasos.blogspot.com/2011/10/libya-news-backup-libyasos-28-septe...
"every drop of Libyan blood shed is the responsibility of the West, especially NATO countries...The world stays silent while NATO and a group of village idiots destroy and force their will on Libya.."
http://mathaba.net/news/?x=628943
"young girls and older women are participating in the defense of Sirte against the gangs armed by NATO.."
Gaddafi Loyalists Put Up Fierce Resistance
http://www.thenational.ae/news/worldwide/africa/qaddafi-loyalists-put-up...
"In Brussels, a NATO spokesman called the resistance of Col Qaddafi's supporters 'surprising'. Colonel Roland Lavoie [This NATO mouthpiece is also Canadian!] said that instead of opting for a political solution, they have chosen to continue fighting and 'to inflict pain on the rest of the population in Libya. With no resupply possible, however, their cause is hopeless. It just does not make sense to see what those few remaining forces are doing,' Col Lavoie told reporters."
of course, as is amply documented, all such peace proposals have been rejected. Lvaoie, the Canadian NATO spokesman, lies as outrageously as the NATO Commander, Canadian Lt. Gen. Charles 'the Butcher' Bouchard. Canadian MPs remain silent.
Wed, 2011-10-12 14:03
#12
it's over after fierce Ghaddaffi resistance:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/10/2011101013186280505.html
good news, and let the Red Cross and others follow up after 41-year dictator and family fall ...
With Tripoli, the capital, and most of the country already under their control, NTC leaders have said that they will declare Libya "liberated" when Sirte falls.
Mustafa Abdul Jalil, the NTC chairman, visited fighters in Sirte on Tuesday, standing on the back of a truck as they shouted "Libya, Libya!" and fired their weapons into the air in celebration.
Wed, 2011-10-12 14:55
#13
NATO's slaughterfest "Victory" does not erase the mendacity of its cheerleaders, or the continuing atrocities:
August 31, 2011
A Victory for the Libyan People?
The Top Ten Myths in the War Against Libyaby MAXIMILIAN C. FORTE
Since Colonel Gaddafi has lost his military hold in the war against NATO and the insurgents/rebels/new regime, numerous talking heads have taken to celebrating this war as a “success”. They believe this is a “victory of the Libyan people” and that we should all be celebrating. Others proclaim victory for the “responsibility to protect,” for “humanitarian interventionism,” and condemn the “anti-imperialist left”. Some of those who claim to be “revolutionaries,” or believe they support the “Arab revolution,” somehow find it possible to sideline NATO’s role in the war, instead extolling the democratic virtues of the insurgents, glorifying their martyrdom, and magnifying their role until everything else is pushed from view. I wish to dissent from this circle of acclamation, and remind readers of the role of ideologically-motivated fabrications of “truth” that were used to justify, enable, enhance, and motivate the war against Libya—and to emphasize how damaging the practical effects of those myths have been to Libyans, and to all those who favoured peaceful, non-militarist solutions.....
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/08/31/the-top-ten-myths-in-the-war-agai...
Wed, 2011-10-12 16:05
#14
It's amusing to see imperialists, who normally would avoid Al Jazeera like the plague, quote it on Libya with such relish.
But then Al Jazeera, in this instance, is making significant contibutions to imperial intervention:
Libya: * Who Are the Rebels? * WikiLeaksWASHINGTON - March 30 - VIJAY PRASHAD
....
In terms of sources of information, possibly the most dangerous aspect of what we are currently seeing has been the role of al-Jazeera. It played a very positive role in Egypt, but when things came to Libya it did a complete 180. The sheikdom of Qatar — which funds al-Jazeera — is the only nation in the Arab League that is actually participating in the military attacks. Also, it has signed an oil deal with the Libyan rebels. So if Gadafi wins, an oil deal for Qatar goes bad....
Thu, 2011-10-13 09:55
#15
[url=http://amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report/new-libya-%E2%80%99stained... Libya "stained" by detainee abuse[/url]
The new authorities in Libya must stamp out arbitrary detention and widespread abuse of detainees, Amnesty International said today in a new briefing paper.In Detention Abuses Staining the New Libya the organization reveals a pattern of beatings and ill-treatment of captured al-Gaddafi soldiers, suspected loyalists and alleged mercenaries in western Libya. In some cases there is clear evidence of torture in order to extract confessions or as a punishment.
The main difference so far between Gaddafi's thugs and the new gang of thugs is that the latter enjoy the military and financial support of our "democratically"-elected majority government.
Thu, 2011-10-13 11:05
#16
The main difference so far between Gaddafi's thugs and the new gang of thugs is that the latter enjoy the military and financial support of our "democratically"-elected majority government.
And the opposition as well. Apparently our involvement stops short at regime installation, and doesn't venture beyond by telling them how to behave otherwise once we've collectively opened Pandora's Box, like avoiding the indiscriminate slaughter of the old thugs, their families, and nearby villagers. There's just no consistency to be found with these selective imperial interventions.
Thu, 2011-10-13 13:30
#17
Northern Shoveler
Thu, 2011-10-13 13:31
#18
Pepe Escobar: NATO's Hypocrisy on Sirte is Cosmic (and vid)
http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=628956
"Imagining Sirte would 'fall' in hours or days he said, 'They [NATO and RATS] are assuming the problems are all solved then and they can set up a government in Tripoli and the TNC will be accepted by everybody as their rulers. This is not going to happen. The war is just beginning..."
Libya News, Oct. 13 (and vid)
http://libyasos.blogspot.com/p/news.html
"Moussa Ibrahim confirmed that the arrest of Mutassin al Gaddafi is a lie. The rumour of Mutassin's arrest is only to cover the massacre committed by NATO and NATO bandits..."
Fri, 2011-10-14 13:30
#19
The Rebellious Media Conference, London, Oct 8-9: A Reflection...
http://rebelgriot.blogspot.com/2011/10/rebellious-media-conference-londo...
"But there was another word that was missing - not only from the Occupy Wall Street programme, but from Chomsky's critique, the questions from his audience and indeed from almost the whole conference. Libya.
It occurs to me that we have been caught in a media trap, albeit an unintentional one of our own making, borne of our own prejudices. Almost all of Gaddafi's claims - of Al Qaeda involvement in the uprising, of systematic racist atrocities carried out by rebel forces, of the rebels being in the pay of foreign interests aiming to destabilise and conquer the country have been proven correct.
And we, including a large number on the left, have been caught lying - that the uprising was essentially a liberal democratic one, that the rebels were a nonviolent protest movement, that Gaddafi was a genocidal rapist and so on..."
Libya's NTC: Holding, Abusing Thousands Without Charges
http://news.antiwar.com/2011/10/12/libyas-ntc-holding-abusing-thousands-...
"Guards admit to viciously beating detainees. Amnesty International has found the group is holding more than 2,500 detainees in makeshift prisons without charges in the wake of their conquest of much of western Libya.."
Sun, 2011-10-16 03:59
#20
Sirte - Urgent Call to the Global Community (and vid)
http://libya360.wordpress.com/2011/10/15/sirte-urgent-call-to-the-global...
"Update on Sirte and Khamis Gaddafi's death. Massive uprising in Tripoli. NATO bombed civilian protesters. NATO Chinook helicopter shot down..."
Intense Fighting Erupts in Tripoli
http://libya360.wordpress.com/2011/10/14/intense-fighting-erupts-in-tripoli
"NATO claims of 'Victory' in Libya up in smoke as fighting erupts in Tripoli and 'Rebel final-assault' of Sirte drags on past one week. Protracted resistance to NATO's campaign has begun across Libya, even in areas thought to be 'secured' including Tripoli itself.."
Video: Demonstration in Tripoli Against NATO and the 'Rebels'
http://www.newsfrommiddleeast.com/?xstart=b&new=82288
and once again one must point out, that even though this NATO campaign is led by a Canadian General, Charles Bouchard, and even though Canada's 'heavy lifting' consists of heavy bombing Libyan civilians - just behind France and the UK, Canadian media hardly mention Libya and simply keep repeating 'the final assault on Sirte' as they have for more than a week.."
Humanitarian War in Libya? There is No Evidence (and vid)
http://www.laguerrehumanitaire.fr/english
the rotten and corrupt 'Human Rights' collaborators
Sun, 2011-10-16 19:14
#21
Libya: Loyalists Fight On While Oil Vultures Circle
http://www.newworker.org/archive2011/nw20111014/libya_loyalists_fight_on...
"Fierce fighting continues in Sirte as loyalist forces continue to repel Libyan rebels attempts to take over the only Mediterranean port still held by the Gaddafi government. Col Gaddafi has called on the people to rise up in mass resistance to the puppet regime and their NATO masters.
And on the streets of the capital rival rebel gangs fight it out for control of the banks while the growing underground resistance spreads terror amongst the rebel ranks..."
Libya Loyalists Fight NATO, Rebels and Propaganda - by Stephen Lendman
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Libyan-Loyalists-Resist-NA-by-Stephen-L...
"...In other words believe nothing on Wstern media and Al Jazeera. No matter how often the lie, new ones follow regularly. NSNBC's Christoff Lehman also calls TNC officials notorious liars 'and the Libyan people know it..'"
Mon, 2011-10-17 00:31
#22
Israel and Libya: Preparing Africa for the 'Clash of Civilizations'
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29407.htm
"As disarray and turmoil are once again uprooting Africa with external intervention, Israel sits silently in the background. Tel Aviv has actually been deeply involved in the new cycle of turmoil..."
Mon, 2011-10-17 03:49
#23
Tripoli Cut Off From Fresh Water
http://rt.com/news/line/2011-10-17/#id20371
"The supply of fresh water to private homes in the Libyan capital Tripoli was suddenly suspended and NTC officials have been unable to say when they will manage to turn the tap back on. Fresh water irregularities started on Friday when forces loyal to deposed leader Muammar Gaddafi resumed street fights with NTC forces in the capital."
sounds just like when democracy also came to Baghdad...Could even have been Canada's forces that participated in this warcrime. In any case we know that RCAF Commander Lt. Gen. Charles 'the Butcher' Bouchard has final approval authority over all targeting in Libya. Thanks again to all who voted 'YEA' and thanks to all for their silence thereafter..."
NATO Bombs the Great Man-Made River
http://libya360.wordpress.com/2011/07/27/nato-bombs-the-great-man-made-r...
"It is a war crime to attack essential civilian infrastructure. NATO has admitted that its jets attacked the pipe factory on 22 July..."
"...the factory was hit after the water-supply network was destroyed on Friday. If NATO's contribution to protecting civilians is bombing their water supply then the international community will respond to this heinous war crime, whether or not the politicians do.."
More good questions for NDP leadership candidates who all voted for this
http://libyancivilwar.blogspot.com/2011/07/great-man-made-river-being-un...
Mon, 2011-10-17 11:49
#24
M. Spector
it's over after fierce Ghaddaffi resistance:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/10/2011101013186280505.html
good news, and let the Red Cross and others follow up after 41-year dictator and family fall ...
Yeah. Right.
This is good news like Fallujah was good news.
Tue, 2011-10-18 06:38
#25
Sirte Bombed and Shelled to Smithereens (pics)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049108/Libya-wars-stand-Sirte-P...
Death , Destruction in Sirte (and vid)
http://english.cntv.cn/program/newsupdate/20111016/103114.shtml
The Legend of Sirte
http://www.palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details.php?id=17183
"...In all the weeks Sirte was being devastated from the air, where was the UN Security Council; which opened the door to the attack on Libya with its 'no fly' zone resolution but has taken no responsibility for the consequences? Where was the EU, where was the OIC, where was the Arab League, where was the outrage in the media, where were all the governments upholding a 'responsibility to protect' which had turned into a license to kill?
They were all mute. Not a word of condemnation or even of concern passed their lips.
How many civilians have been killed we don't know, but the estimates being made for the country as a whole suggest a death toll running into the tens of thousands. Such is the cost of 'humanitarian intervention.' Such is the price the Libyans have had to pay for their own 'liberation.'
They did not want this war. It was the governments of the US, Britain and France who wanted this war, for reasons of their own, and used the rising in Benghazi as their leverage. A country which was stable is now in turmoil.
The news agencies refer to the government in Tripoli but there is no government in Tripoli. The 'National Transitional Council' has still not got its act together. Uncertainty, turbulence and possibly a spreading war of resistance lie ahead as the implications of what has been done sink in.."
Lizzie Phelan: My Experience in Libya During NATO Attacks [ RCAF Lt. Gen. Charles 'The Butcher' as NATO Commander, approves all targeting in Libya] (and vid)
http://mathaba.net/news/?x=629018
"From a young Englishwoman who was in Libya during the invasion of Tripoli by armed terrorists [RATS] supported by European and American military forces [maybe JTF2].."
Wed, 2011-10-19 04:54
#26
Libyan War Sp(OIL)s In the Hands of British Mercenaries
http://mathaba.net/news/?x=629037
"Independent oil and gas explorer Heritage Oil PLC, Tuesday, became the first new foreign firm to strike a deal to enter the Libyan oil sector following the war, through its acquisition of a Benghazi-based oil services company. Heritage is listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange since 1999. In the 1990s Anthony Buckingham was a 'security consultant' and a partner of private military provider Executive Outcomes..."
Wed, 2011-10-19 05:48
#27
'US Want Share of Libya Success' (and vid)
http://rt.com/news/us-libya-clinton-gaddafi-127/
"US Secretary of State Hilary Clinton says Washington wants to see the former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi captured or killed. Professor Paul Sheldon Foote says that the Obama administration believes this killing would be a justified one...
see interview with Keith Harmon Snow
Wed, 2011-10-19 06:42
#28
Sirte Destroyed by NTC-NATO Offensive - by Chris Marsden
http://www.countercurrents.org/marsden181011.htm
"The Libyan town of Sirte has been all but destroyed and its inhabitants turned into homeless refugees..."
Thu, 2011-10-20 05:48
#29
'Unworthy Victims' (and vid)
http://libyasos.blogspot.com/2011/10/afghanistan-iraq-and-libya-worthy.html
John Pilger on the bombing of Sirte
Thu, 2011-10-20 07:30
#30
Bec.De.Corbin
CNN is special reporting Gaddafi has been captured... (round 1)
Thu, 2011-10-20 07:47
#31
BBC as well.
Commanders for Libya's transitional authorities say they have captured ousted leader Col Muammar Gaddafi.
Thu, 2011-10-20 08:42
#32
Bec.De.Corbin
Looks like they got him. Just seen a digital capture picture of what is alleged to be Gaddafi (looks like him) and it looks like he's dead or seriously wounded (beaten?).
Thu, 2011-10-20 09:31
#33
a trial would have been more satisfying for the rebels and the Libyan general population...
but the issue of legitimacy is now settled, his 42-year dictatorship is over and cannot return, a great relief for the people
Thu, 2011-10-20 09:56
#34
They are now reporting he might have been killed.
Ousted Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi has been reported captured, and possibly killed, as his hometown of Sirte fell to revolutionary fighters.
"He's captured. He's wounded in both legs....He's been taken away by ambulance," Abdel Majid, a National Transitional Council, initially told Reuters.
The news agency also reported, based on an NTC source, that Gadhafi had died of his wounds.
Jalal al-Gallal, a spokesman for Libya's transitional government, and military spokesman Abdul-Rahman Busin both said the reports have not been confirmed.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/10/20/libya-gadhafi-capture.html
Thu, 2011-10-20 10:07
#35
Maysie
Colonel Ahmed Bani, the military spokesman of the National Transition Council, has confirmed to Al Jazeera that Muammar Gaddafi has been killed.
Abdul Hakim Belhaj, an NTC military chief, said Gaddafi had died of his wounds after being captured near his hometown Sirte.
The body of the former Libyan leader was taken to a location which is being kept secret for security reasons, an NTC official said.
..........
NATO and the US state department said they could not confirm any reports. Meanwhile in Benghazi, crowds gathered in the streets to start celebrating the reports of Gaddafi's death.
Edited to add: But the Guardian has photos and videos.
Thu, 2011-10-20 10:52
#36
M. Spector
but the issue of legitimacy is now settled...
What the FUCK does that mean? Because Qaddafi is dead we can't dispute the legitimacy of - of what? The NATO bombing campaign? The NTC "government"? The imperialist meddling? The destruction of Sirte/Guernica?
Why was this war launched? The Gaddafi who has now been dislodged is the same old Gaddafi who arrived in Rome a couple of years ago with photos of Umar al Mukhtar pinned to his tunic as he stepped off the plane. He is the same Gaddafi who was embraced in Paris by Sarkozy and, according to Saif al Islam, gave generously to Sarkozy's election campaign. He is the same Gaddafi who was embraced by the ever-smiling Tony Blair in Tripoli. He was the same Gaddafi with whom Shell was very happy to do business. Between those occasions and now he didn't change. Years ago it was the 'stray dogs' – Libyan dissidents – he wanted to hunt down. This year it was the 'greasy rats' he vowed to pursue street to street – zenga zenga – and house to house. This was what gave the US, Britain and France their justification for taking military action. This was not supposed to be about regime change, but that is how it ended and if it was not planned from the start it was inevitable once these three powers intervened.
[url=http://www.palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details.php?id=17183]The Legend of Sirte[/url]
Thu, 2011-10-20 11:33
#37
but the issue of legitimacy is now settled...
What the FUCK does that mean? Because Qaddafi is dead we can't dispute the legitimacy of - of what? The NATO bombing campaign? The NTC "government"? The imperialist meddling? The destruction of Sirte/Guernica?
Don't expect even an attempt to explain the inexplicable.
The nature of drive-by trolling is to drop a turd and creep out nof the room.
Thu, 2011-10-20 12:08
#38
Northern Shoveler
All I want to know is during the 42 years of his brutal regime who the fuck built all the public infrastructure that the RCAF has destroyed. Who was responsible for building the hospitals and universities and apartment buildings The fucking tooth fairy? Or maybe benevolent corporations?
Thu, 2011-10-20 13:00
#39
dacckon
Don't use the argument of the economy. Hitler had a nice economy as well. Its time to stop quoting infowars and celebrate the end of the reign of Gaddafi.
Its a shame he was killed, he should have been dragged to the ICC. And he's lucky he didn't face the same punishment as Mussolini
Thu, 2011-10-20 13:44
#40
Rumours of Muammar Qaddafi Spread by NTC for Hilary Clinton
http://mathaba.net/news/?x=629064
"..Green Committees have confirmed that the leader is alive and that the enemy is seeking to take advantage of his being currently out of communication. The aim is to please Hilary Clinton who barked at her Arab slaves that she wanted Muammar Qaddafi 'dead or alive'..."
The NTC has issued so many false reports of kills and captures of Qaddafi members, instead of cheering on yet another supposed victory of imperialist aggression, best wait a bit to see. What Canadians should be far more concerned with, are the warcrimes committed by NATO in Libya, commanded by an RCAF General and Canada's substantial contribution to the bombing of civilians there...
Thu, 2011-10-20 13:54
#41
Its a shame he was killed, he should have been dragged to the ICC.
Sure why not, but who would you suggest drag him there? The triumphal creators of black concentration camps, or the NATO bombers of hospitals and homes?
Edited to Add:
I suppose its logical to go with those who have the most practical experience with "dragging":
Amnesty International investigators have also witnessed abuses at the Central Tripoli Hospital, “including men being dragged from hospital beds and detained,” while also witnessing unidentified dead bodies of black men being transported to the morgue....
http://www.prisonplanet.com/libyan-rebels-round-up-blacks-put-them-in-pr...
Thu, 2011-10-20 14:31
#42
There is no reason I can see, as of yet, to trust the propaganda on either side. He may well be dead, or he may not (based on the large number of false kills and captures reported by the anti-Gaddaffi forces in the past ).
Most likely NATO or its ground surrogates will kill or capture him, if they haven't already.
Regardless, the atrocities are likely to continue.
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Hurrah for revolution and more cannon-shot!
A beggar upon horseback lashes a beggar on foot.
Hurrah for revolution and cannon come again!
The beggars have changed places, but the lash goes on.
--WB Yeats
Thu, 2011-10-20 14:41
#43
Don't use the argument of the economy. Hitler had a nice economy as well. Its time to stop quoting infowars and celebrate the end of the reign of Gaddafi.
Its a shame he was killed, he should have been dragged to the ICC. And he's lucky he didn't face the same punishment as Mussolini
Look out there is a dark skinned Boogerman underneath your bed.
It's ok though because Blond Haired, blue eyed jesus and his army of righteous assassins is here to save you.
Thu, 2011-10-20 15:00
#44
In other news, Halliburton Inc. expects Libyan operations to contribute positively to their bottom line in 2012. Perhaps this will provide enough tax revenue for oBOMBa to wage war on another country after Uganda.
Thu, 2011-10-20 15:11
#45
Canada's combat mission in Libya will end in the next two weeks.
Sources tell CBC News that the timing will be discussed with Canada's allies in days ahead.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/10/20/pol-libya-mission-end-t...
Thu, 2011-10-20 15:20
#46
It's peculiar to see the Rabble home page news linkng today almost exclusively to Al Jazeera stories on Libya, given what we know of their total dependence on the interests of their Qatar owners:
W. RANDY SHORT… In terms of sources of information, possibly the most dangerous aspect of what we are currently seeing has been the role of al-Jazeera. It played a very positive role in Egypt, but when things came to Libya it did a complete 180. The sheikdom of Qatar — which funds al-Jazeera — is the only nation in the Arab League that is actually participating in the military attacks. Also, it has signed an oil deal with the Libyan rebels. So if Gadafi wins, an oil deal for Qatar goes bad.”
Thu, 2011-10-20 15:47
#47
And the Libyan people lived happily ever after....
Next?
Thu, 2011-10-20 18:29
#48
Bec.De.Corbin
At least he stood his ground with his men to the end...
Gaddafi's death - who pulled the trigger?
Shortly before dawn prayers on Thursday, Gaddafi, surrounded by a few dozen loyal bodyguards and accompanied by the head of his now non-existent army Abu Bakr Younis Jabr, broke out of the two-month siege of Sirte and made a break for the west.
But they did not get far.
France said its aircraft struck military vehicles belonging to Gaddafi forces near Sirte at about 8:30 a.m. (0630 GMT) on Thursday, but said it was unsure whether the strikes had killed Gaddafi.
Some two miles west of Sirte, 15 pick-up trucks mounted with heavy machine guns lay burned out, smashed and smoldering next to an electricity sub station some 20 meters from the main road.
They had clearly been hit by a force far beyond anything the motley army the former rebels has assembled during eight months of revolt to overthrow the once feared leader.
But there was no bomb crater, indicating the strike may have been carried out by a helicopter gunship, or that it had been strafed by a fighter jet.
"MY MASTER IS HERE"
Inside the trucks still in their seats sat the charred skeletal remains of drivers and passengers killed instantly by the strike. Other bodies lay mutilated and contorted strewn across the grass. Some 50 bodies in all.
Gaddafi himself and a handful of his men escaped death and appeared to have run through a stand of trees toward the main road and hid in the two drainage pipes.
But a group of government fighters were on their tail.
"At first we fired at them with anti-aircraft guns, but it was no use," said Salem Bakeer, while being feted by his comrades near the road. "Then we went in on foot.
"One of Gaddafi's men came out waving his rifle in the air and shouting surrender, but as soon as he saw my face he started shooting at me," he told Reuters.
"Then I think Gaddafi must have told them to stop. 'My master is here, my master is here', he said, 'Muammar Gaddafi is here and he is wounded'," said Bakeer.
"We went in and brought Gaddafi out. He was saying 'what's wrong? What's wrong? What's going on?'. Then we took him and put him in the car," Bakeer said.
At the time of capture, Gaddafi was already wounded with gunshots to his leg and to his back, Bakeer said.
Other government fighters who said they took part in Gaddafi's capture, separately confirmed Bakeer's version of events, though one said the man who ruled Libya for 42 years was shot and wounded at the last minute by one of his own men.
"One of Muammar Gaddafi's guards shot him in the chest," said Omran Jouma Shawan.
Another of the fighters who said he took part in the capture toted a heavily engraved a golden pistol he said he took from Gaddafi as he was hoisted on the shoulders of his comrades.
Army chief Jabr was also captured alive, Bakeer said. NTC officials later announced he was dead.
Fallen electricity cables partially covered the entrance to the pipes and the bodies of three men, apparently Gaddafi bodyguards lay at the entrance to one end, one in shorts probably due to a bandaged wound on his leg.
Four more bodies lay at the other end of the pipes. All black men, one had his brains blown out, another man had been decapitated, his dreadlocked head lying beside his torso.
Joyous government fighters fired their weapons in the air, shouted "Allahu Akbar" and posed for pictures. Others wrote graffiti on the concrete parapets of the highway.
"Gaddafi was captured here," said one simply.
"THEY BEAT HIM, THEN THEY KILLED HIM"
From there Gaddafi was taken to Sirte where he and his dwindling band of die-hard supporters had made a last stand under a rain of missile and artillery fire in a desperate two-month siege.
Video footage showed Gaddafi, dazed and wounded, but still clearly alive and as he was dragged from the front of a pick-up truck by a crowd of angry jostling government soldiers who hit him and pulled his hair to drag him to the ground.
He then appeared to fall to the ground and was enveloped by the crowd. NTC officials later announced Gaddafi had died of his wounds after capture.
Someone in the crowd shouted "keep him alive, keep him alive," but another fighter cried out in a high pitched crazed scream. Gaddafi then goes out of view and gunshots are heard.
Further television footage showed what appeared to be Gaddafi's lifeless body being loaded into an ambulance in Sirte.
An NTC spokesman in Benghazi, Jalal al-Galal, said a doctor who examined Gaddafi when he arrived in Misrata found he had been shot in the head and abdomen.
Thu, 2011-10-20 18:37
#49
Sven
Its a shame he was killed, he should have been dragged to the ICC. And he's lucky he didn't face the same punishment as Mussolini
It is a shame.
That said, given the mobs of people surrounding him after his capture (per the videos on the web), it doesn't surprise me that someone popped a cap in his ass.
Thu, 2011-10-20 18:37
#50
Gaddafi is dead, and there he lies,
Nobody laughs, and nobody cries.
Where his soul is, and how it fares,
Nobody knows, and nobody cares.
Thu, 2011-10-20 19:50
#51
Gaddafi is dead, and there he lies,
Nobody laughs, and nobody cries.
Where his soul is, and how it fares,
Nobody knows, and nobody cares.
Yeah, well, notwithstanding the koolaid-drinking halfwits, its just more blood on Canadian hands, and personally, I hang my head in shame and disgust. Not a person on this board knows the first thing about Libya, but how ready we are to line up with the most rightwing government in modern Canadian history and applaud its latest extra-legal butchery. Right out of the 19th century, this, spears against Maxim guns.
Good work Nato. Well done Canada.
The days of 'soft power' are over. Stupid power is king,