Democracy Incorporated: Managed Democracy and the Specter of Inverted Totalitarianism - Part II

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Democracy Incorporated: Managed Democracy and the Specter of Inverted Totalitarianism - Part II

Continued from here.

Slumberjack

Human Nature: Justice versus Power - Noam Chomsky debates with Michel Foucault - 1971

Foucault wrote:
If you like, I will be a little bit Nietzschean about this; in other words, it seems to me that the idea of justice in itself is an idea which in effect has been invented and put to work in different types of societies as an instrument of a certain political and economic power or as a weapon against that power. But it seems to me that, in any case, the notion of justice itself functions within a society of classes as a claim made by the oppressed class and as justification for it.

Chomsky wrote:
Well, here I really disagree. I think there is some sort of an absolute basis--if you press me too hard I'll be in trouble, because I can't sketch it out-ultimately residing in fundamental human qualities, in terms of which a "real" notion of justice is grounded.  I think it's too hasty to characterise our existing systems of justice as merely systems of class oppression; I don't think that they are that. I think that they embody systems of class oppression and elements of other kinds of oppression, but they also embody a kind of groping towards the true humanly, valuable concepts of justice and decency and love and kindness and sympathy, which I think are real.  And I think that in any future society, which will, of course, never be the perfect society, we'll have such concepts again, which we hope, will come closer to incorporating a defence of fundamental human needs, including such needs as those for solidarity and sympathy and whatever, but will probably still reflect in some manner the inequities and the elements of oppression of the existing society.

Foucault wrote:
finally this problem of human nature, when put simply in theoretical terms, hasn't led to an argument between us; ultimately we understand each other very well on these theoretical problems. On the other hand, when we discussed the problem of human nature and political problems, then differences arose between us. And contrary to what you think, you can't prevent me from believing that these notions of human nature, of justice, of the realisation of the essence of human beings, are all notions and concepts which have been formed within our civilisation, within our type of knowledge and our form of philosophy, and that as a result form part of our class system; and one can't, however regrettable it may be, put forward these notions to describe or justify a fight which should-and shall in principle--overthrow the very fundaments of our society. This is an extrapolation for which I can't find the historical justification. That's the point.

Gaian

Hedges refers to an apparently diverse group of "political philosophers" in the opening essay of The World As It Is, including Sheldon S.Wolin, as one who "saw it coming," who "rang the alarms bells."

Under inverted totalitarianism "Economics dominates politics - and with that domination comes different forms of ruthlessness." In conversation with Wolin, Hedges writes, the author of Democracy Incorporated said "I keep asking why and how and when this country became so conservative. This country once prided itself on its experimentation and flexibility. It has become rigid. It is probably the most conservative of all the advanced countries."

Wolin told Hedges that "if an extreme Right gains momentum,there will probably be very little organized resistance. The Left is amorphous," he said, continuing: "I despair over the Left. Left parties may be small in number in Europe, but they are a coherent organization that keep going. Here, except for Nader's efforts, we don't havve that. We have a few voices here, a magazine there, and that's about it. It goes nowhere."

Like the cacaphony of the chorus hereabouts, eh?

But if "economics dominates politics," and that certainly would seem to be the case, wouldn't talk of reform concern itself at some point with economics? Even a workable scheme for reostructuring at the end of the revolution? :)

Slumberjack

Gaian wrote:
We have a few voices here, a magazine there, and that's about it. It goes nowhere." Like the cacaphony of the chorus hereabouts, eh? But if "economics dominates politics," and that certainly would seem to be the case, wouldn't talk of reform concern itself at some point with economics? Even a workable scheme for reostructuring at the end of the revolution? :)

Here is where the cacophony should least concern us. It’s the daily regurgitation of nonsense from our political representatives that we’re being expected to re-consume is what should have us all bent over with nausea. Economics dominates politics in the same way a machine gunner employs that particular weapon of choice due to its effectiveness in performing the task it was designed to do. Politics is a hammer wielded by economy, a sleeve put to use by a conjurer intent on convincing the audience that something can be made to appear or disappear if they focus enough of their attention away from what is actually being done. If a cursory examination of capitalism reveals a system of wondrous bounty for some, a hand to mouth existence for others in exchange for labour, and for others still as a death sentence imposed at birth, then the logical and least destructive alternative would be to appropriate the excessive bounty in an attempt to sustain life for everyone.

Gaian

Sj, the 1970s brought us an economic system (out of Chicago) that invites us to choose between playing ball or assuming the dynamics of a backwater. We have to bring the bastards back to a less larcenous game. And you have to be able to talk about current economic world events with your supporters out there to accomplish that - or just be written off as a threat to their jobs, income, savings invested in the corporate world.

We're talking about the need for reform, but we have to stop generalizing and philosophizing - we have to talk to working people at their level of understanding, or just wind up building little dream worlds to humour ourselves. Any attempt here to get people openly talking about where their retirement funds are invested would bring a pall of silence. Too many contradictions.

Slumberjack

Talk about pensions and the increasing demands on organized labour, the working poor and the environment in exchange for diminishing returns is all very well and good.  In order to carry such a conversation, I'm afraid one has to engage in the same pie in the sky discussion as someone attempting to more broadly situate the prevailing circumstances.  What leader has gone down to the occupy zones to say they've seen and heard, and as a result will promise to do better?  Instead riot police are arresting more and more people, while ultimatums are tabled elsewhere.  I would say that the reverse is true from the way you describe things.  Classic political engagement constitutes the various little dream worlds where at best, the steady state to oblivion is the best that can be hoped for.  You're trying to bring together enough shuffleboard players for a game aboard a sinking ship on auto cruise.

Gaian

I'm after coherence, Sj, for a message that working folks can understand. Nothing, above, points to a believable approach to changing the economic structure now in thrall to the powers that be. Pored over, it's a description of our situation, but contains no hint of a solution.

Slumberjack

There is only one obvious approach, which won't be found by applying to the existing structures. It is somewhat surprising, but not very much so if we're being up front about it, that despite the entire array of deliberations which appear as a specialty for today's crop of social democrats, in addition to their comprehensive if not exhaustive suggested reading lists, that the one last gasp solution never occurs, or if it does, such thoughts are subjected to a ritual which closely resembles confession and pennance. The only important consideration, for which I am more confident than ever of the answer, is the question of which will arrive first; solutions grounded in classic politics as it currently exists, or by another means grounded in politics of another sort entirely, and for which history has already furnished ample precedent.

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Gaian wrote:
I'm after coherence, Sj, for a message that working folks can understand. Nothing, above, points to a believable approach to changing the economic structure now in thrall to the powers that be. Pored over, it's a description of our situation, but contains no hint of a solution.

Great so am I.

Please tell us what you propose.  

Slumberjack

One has to suspect that what can be gained here is most likely to consist of an appreciation for the fact that reading and reading comprehension, observation and analysis, are entirely distinct disciplines for which not everyone is able to ascertain where the intersections are, let alone be expected to function effectively within them.

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Seems to me that popular uprisings are one method of getting change.  A message for working people is a good idea but when the people take to the streets the only chance for success is in non violent protest led by all of the community.  The people will rise when the daily struggle gets so bad that the caregivers take to the streets because they can't manage.  In Egypt there is a long tradition of ongoing strikes and protests with thousands of people on pretty much a weekly basis.  North America does not have types of factions of workers and illegal political parties that regularly took to the Cairo streets before the Arab spring. And when it comes to car burnings and running battles with the police they make our Black Bloc look like peacenics. That happened before and is still happening now even after the Arab Spring.  The Arab spring occurred because the women took to the streets and professional organizations like the lawyers and judges and teachers all joined in to demand reform. 

So the question is how to get to mass peaceful protest without a long history of illegal civil disobedience as they have in many countries.  China has more strikes these days than Canada.  Some of them are legal and others are in defiance of the Chinese labor laws.  The workers don't care they strike anyways.  In Canada the head of the CLC writes a tersely worded letter to the government when Local 6500 is on strike and under attack  and trying to defend a pension system without selling out their children in a two tiered scheme. Our government is preaching a neo-fascist labour policy that says the rights of workers should be subordinated to the business dictates of the economy and our cites go undisturbed.  The MSM does not address issues and without the disruptions there is no consciousness building among the people. 

The Occupy movements in North America and the protests across Europe are to me the beacon of hope. I have faith in the people of places like Greece, Spain and Italy because fascism is within living memory especially in Greece and Spain.  They have elders to tell them they have seen this shit before and it does not end well for the people. 

In Canada we are like the proverbial frog in the water. The pot was a nice cool temperature in the 1970's but it has been slowly heating since and now it is hot enough to boil us but we are so lethargic that we can't jump out. Maybe the Occupy movements will be the cold water required to wake up us dozing toads.  If nothing else they have forced the debate.

Gaian

I love the frog in the pot analogy, NS, and particularly the dating ...from the 1970s. All political economy now uses the 1970s as a base line, when "things changed," ...the worker's standard of living stopped improving (and the credit economy appeared), unions came under threat, beginning with the move of industry to lower-wage areas in the south and abroad. And finance capital came to the fore as larger and larger pools of savings became available. And billionaires became a dime a dozen.

And the frequency of crashes increased from occasional to regular as clockwork. Greed was most evident in the last one, and got a dean from Mennonite country, writing. I still think deans of schools of management have consciences.

The dean of the Rotman School of Management at the U.of T. , Roger L. Martin points precisely to the moment when it all began to go "wrong" , the publication of a paper by two profesors at another school of business offering another theory of the firm. They said that shareholders are the ones who should be uppermost in the minds of the managers, not the customers buying the firm's products. Market crashes since then are largely attributable to acceptance of that idea.

Of course, Martin is only out to fix the market. He doesn't mention the parallel appearance of the Chicago School in that decade. That's the one dependent on the idea that, with maximization of stock values as the goal, industry shold simply take its little red wagon and play elsewhere if any political jurisdiction, state,province, country, didn't play ball...lower taxes etc. Moving away lowered the wages. And the people wielding all those pension funds went whereever the yearly gain was greatest.

Now that's all just a very rought idea of changes in the economic climate that brought us here. Hedges is more concerned about degradation of the accompanying social institutions, church "morality", etc., and I'm trying to find the "materialist' argument in an essay "The American Em;pire is Bankrupt" wrom June, 2008. But it's not there. This is not the work of an economist, a Jim Stanford, or a Naomi Klein (who Hedges praises as one of the prescient.)

In answer to your question,then, what do I propose, NS ? I guess I'm all for going backwards and re-working that Market as Martin proposes (he suggests five steps to accomplish that) and selling a restructuring of our society to folks as a rational process that isn't going to cause a 1930s scenario for all, and giving serious assistance to the marginalized throughout the process.

Pie in the sky? I can't find any proposals from political economy in Hedges' incredibly lucid explanations of how we got here. He has hopes for the Occupy movement, but it is not moving enough of the middle. It's mostly just demonstrating how bad things are on the jobs/income front, and how diverse the communities affected. There's mostly a hunkering down on mainstreet.

Slumberjack

Northern Shoveler wrote:
  A message for working people is a good idea but when the people take to the streets the only chance for success is in non violent protest led by all of the community.

Not the only chance, and as desirable as it might appear, it is questionable as to whether desirable is the right word.  Such a determined movement would have to at least steel itself for initial casualties as the state experiments with different methods of control.  It was enough for the security forces to fire into crowds of people in Winnipeg and Regina.  In essence, the movement would have to understand that certain sacrifices will have to be made up front, if not throughout, until the stench of state violence reaches the nostrils of everyone, including as a necessary pre-condition to an eventual success, the ones actually doing the shooting, to the extent that they throw down their arms and replace the demonstrators who have just been shot.  It is when you run out of people who are willing to fire into crowds of peaceful demonstrators that the days of the state become numbered.  Other questions here would need to be asked at this point, such as who would organize such a strategy, and if they are not to be found among the first victims, we would have to suspect their willingness to send other victims to other situations that might arise once they consolidate power as a new organization or 'organizers.'

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So the question is how to get to mass peaceful protest without a long history of illegal civil disobedience as they have in many countries.

Here it will have to await the spread of deprivation everywhere.  Comparatively speaking, we're far from that at the moment.  Elsewhere of course the conditions for mass organization of any sort couldn't be better.  For us however, at least in the memory of most people; these things have always taken place somewhere else, concerning people we do not know. 

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The MSM does not address issues and without the disruptions there is no consciousness building among the people. 

Most movements recognize early on that airways and other media sources have to be denied to the traditional sources of information.

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The Occupy movements in North America and the protests across Europe are to me the beacon of hope. I have faith in the people of places like Greece, Spain and Italy because fascism is within living memory especially in Greece and Spain.  They have elders to tell them they have seen this shit before and it does not end well for the people. In Canada we are like the proverbial frog in the water. The pot was a nice cool temperature in the 1970's but it has been slowly heating since and now it is hot enough to boil us but we are so lethargic that we can't jump out. Maybe the Occupy movements will be the cold water required to wake up us dozing toads.  If nothing else they have forced the debate.

I would share your optimism were it not for the fact that all of these outbursts, at least in North America, share the common characteristic of obeying local ordinances almost to a tee, and have collectively done very little in response to the ongoing campaign of state violence, beatings, mass arrests etc, ordered up by their democratically elected representatives.  Unless these challenges are met I'm afraid we can't entirely avoid the sensation that comes from witnessing a farce being played out.

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Don't get me wrong SLumberjack I have no delusion that the Occupy movement is about to over turn the status quo.  I see it more as the beginning of the awakening of the generation that is being screwed the most.  I'm 60 years old with bad knees so engaging in running battles with police is no longer in my realm of potential protest styles.

Canada's economy will get meaner and nastier very quickly if the global system does a repeat of 1934.  We already have the greatest disparity in Canada since the Great Depression Era so when it goes bad now it is going to really hurt people especially young families trying to make it on retail and service jobs. The Occupy Movements are now in the consciousness of the people in that demographic and that to me is the start of something positive.

Slumberjack

I should be clear as well that I don't think the answer is to summon everyone to oil up their machine guns and head out into the streets.  I would just say that in considering the totality of the levels of violence routinely employed by corporatist states, one could at least begin to understand why people might be driven to those particular means of response.  I would also argue that there is more understanding to be acquired here, objections aside, than there is for people who label rock throwers and molotov cocktail slingers as troublemakers and assholes, as if they were the final arbitrators of what constitues proper decorum in a corporatist world that stinks for a lack of it, and where its rule is felt more directly in so many areas.

Gaian

The folks in the streets don't have machine guns to oil for sure. They tend to find even BB guns nasty. And only people in black hoodies and masks hurl rocks.

The occupier folks are the apolitical Lillies of the Field in Distress, hoping that some people somewhere have some suggestions. We all look forward to suggestions.

Slumberjack

Gaian wrote:
I'm after coherence, Sj, for a message that working folks can understand. Nothing, above, points to a believable approach to changing the economic structure now in thrall to the powers that be. Pored over, it's a description of our situation, but contains no hint of a solution.

The same could be said of the occupy movements, as you suggest. I think if we were to examine the effectiveness of parliamentary politics in terms of its potential to effect change to the existing economic structures, similar descriptions could apply. It seems to me that with the question you keep repeating in terms of solutions, you are looking for an answer that is quite similar to that which has already been given ample space for on this board alone, and which you have already provided it seems on more than one occasion; one where if its maximum effectiveness were deployed within the existing avenues provided to it, would in the best case scenario amount to preserving in the short term, a matter of a few decades if we were to draw a little further on optimism, what there is to preserve in the wake of neo-liberalism’s passage.

To envision a major shift to the way in which things are structured from within the order, to me appears as a question without an answer that one might apply to the long term. On the other hand, if the scope of the discussion with all of its implications is too broad to contemplate, because it might be just as well not to look too far, or perhaps for some other reason, then we are essentially reduced to the present and to short term preservation at best. We’re talking then about a combination of today’s creature comforts, pensions, day to day sustenance, health care in all of its precariousness these days, what have you.

When European and North American austerity measures and bail out arrangements only serves to temporarily shore up the daily drama played out in the market, we should already know the answer as to where future growth is coming from. In any event, I think it is possible to see these near term examinations as having just as much work cut out for it as any utopian opinion.

Gaian

Gaian wrote:

The folks in the streets don't have machine guns to oil for sure. They tend to find even BB guns nasty. And only people in black hoodies and masks hurl rocks.

The occupier folks are the apolitical Lillies of the Field in Distress, hoping that some people somewhere have some suggestions. We all look forward to suggestions.

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When a leading McGill economist can get away with this (in the Globe and Mail), you know that Hedges ideas of the role of the MSM are right on. Here we see the well-paid prof. lecturing the Occupiers to sort of think about the starving children of China while they agitate against the marvelous mysteries of free trade (and foreign invesment saves the ass of all on the market).
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/occupy-this-truth-w...

Can you believe?

Gaian

You probably read the comments from the Globe readers, Sj. I could not find one that did not find the good professor moronic.

Not only is this NOT " a rehash of the same trickle down mumbo jumbo from the 80s...and a half assed re-stirring at that of the same crock of leftover shit that people are still being forced fed."

"What we have here" is an indication of the complete bankruptcy of ideas within the intellectual core of Capitalism, the university that gave us the Chicago School - so confidently - just three decades ago. We even have the dean of the Rotman School of Maqnagement Studies at U of T talking about reo-writing the rules of the firm and the market. Head for the friggin hills.

Fidel

Tom Velk wrote:
The idea that the rich are getting richer, etc., is profoundly incorrect for the world at large. It is the sad ideological remnant of the Fabian (and worse) fable. Low-income folks, especially in Asia, no longer die by the millions at the hands of Communist "leaders"; they do not starve by the millions in famines, floods and pandemics. They do have a real chance to leave their children a patrimony that includes a decent quantity of leisure, better government, and improved education.

That might be true in communist China and even India to some extent, but it is woefully untrue of most of the third world capitalist hell holes where neoliberalism ensures that millions of human beings live in abject poverty and despair. They are still desperately poor just a few day's drive from Texas. Counries following Washington consensus for neoliberal ideology, like Pakistan and Thailand and Haiti etc, will not be transformed into rich countries with widespread prosperity anytime soon by trickle-down Reaganomics or Thatherite policies. Those countries should probably take pointers from the likes of Singapore and China than countries where Washington consensus has been followed to a tee and still mired in poverty and suffering from corruption at the highest levels.

Gaian

And a professor of economics not understanding - or pretending not to understand - that. Just imagine.

Slumberjack

Gaian wrote:
You probably read the comments from the Globe readers, Sj. 

I don't read the Globe and Mail.

Slumberjack

What you have there is a rehash of the same trickle down mumbo jumbo from the 80s...and a half assed re-stirring at that of the same crock of leftover shit that people are still being forced fed, with the analytical assistance of what has to be seen today by any nincompoop as coming from a half assed academic discipline without a shred of credibility. Africa is once again being re-engaged with neo-slavery in mind as corporatism's latest ‘on the cheap' frontier.  If that weren't bad enough; without the ability to look into the mirror while fooling ourselves with notions of an eventual rescue from somewhere within the current paradigm, we'd be better off facing the reality of there being absolutely nothing in the domain of politics as we know it that is capable of representing itself as a solution and an alternative, and there likely never will be.  It's a bitter pill to swallow there's no doubt about that.  What you see is all we're ever going to get as a species from it...and then some in the years ahead.

Gaian

.....be right back with an "unbroken web" link.....I hope

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/occupy-this-truth-w...

And then there's this kind of academic comprador/prostituting his profession for a tidy pay packet and pension .

Posted yesterday in a political thread. The Globe reader comments following it do not fit your idea of a Globe reader...if you can bring yourself to take a peek

Fidel

Boomerang! Is the Pentagon Field-Testing 'Son of Stuxnet'?

Antifascist wrote:
As part of Washington's on-going commitment to the rule of law and human rights, as the recent due process-free drone assassination of American citizen Anwar Al-Awlaki, followed by that of his teenage son and the revenge killing of former Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi by--surprise!--Al Qaeda-linked militias funded by the CIA clearly demonstrate, the "use of any cyber-weapon would have to be proportional to the threat, not inflict undue collateral damage and avoid civilian casualties.

Anthrax gladio, 9/11 gladio, panty and shoe bomber gladios, now al-Duqu puter gladio?

Full spectrum fascism is no longer on the backburner. It's what we currently have in the here and now.

 

Gaian

I think you just flew past Hedges and Wolin and J.R.Saul, Naomi Klein et. al. there navigator..

Slumberjack

Gaian wrote:
And then there's this kind of academic comprador/prostituting his profession for a tidy pay packet and pension.  Posted yesterday in a political thread. The Globe reader comments following it do not fit your idea of a Globe reader...

If there's any justice...they'd be his present and former students carrying on with their revolt outside of the lecture hall.

Slumberjack

Here's a vacation package better suited to your interests.  I assume you're already quite familiar with the entertaining lineup aboard the slow boat to oblivion.

Slumberjack

I normally don't link to this website because of some of the reader comments which often accompany the articles, but I suppose if CBCNewz.ca articles keep getting linked on the board, and in considering the peanut gallery of comments there...I suppose it should be ok this one time.

Argentina:  Why President Fernandez Wins and Obama Loses

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Between 1998 - 2002, Argentina experienced the worse socio-economic crises in its history....The economy nose-dived from recession to full scale depression, culminating in double digit negative growth in 2001 - 2002. Unemployment reached over 25% and in many working class neighborhoods, over 50%. Tens of thousands of impoverished middle class professional lined up to receive bread and soup only blocks away from the Presidential palace. Hundreds of thousands of unemployed workers, ‘piqueteros' (picketers), blocked major highways and some raided trains shipping cattle and grain overseas. Banks closed depriving millions of depositors of their savings. Millions of middle class protestors organized radical neighborhood councils and linked up with unemployed assemblies. The country was heavily indebted, the people deeply impoverished. The popular mood was moving toward a revolutionary uprising. Incumbent President Fernando De la Rua was overthrown (2001) scores of protestors were killed and wounded, as a popular rebellion threatened to seize the Presidential palace. By the end of 2002, hundreds of bankrupt factories were ‘occupied', taken over and run by workers.....The most popular slogan, of the multitudinous movements occupying the financial districts, factories, public buildings and the streets was "Que se vayan todos" ("All politicians get out'). The entire political class, parties and leaders, Congress and presidents were rejected outright. But while the movements were vast, militant and united in what they rejected, they had no coherent program for taking state power, nor national political leadership to lead them. After two years of turmoil, the populace turned to the ballot box and elected Kirchner with a mandate to produce or perish. Kirchner heard the message, at least the part which demanded growth with equity.

Today of course represents a vastly different picture for Argentina.  What it says about today's circumstances in 2011 and heading into 2012 is that in the absence of a traditional line of coherence that the elite typically ignores every other day at any rate.....just like every well thought out and well sourced academic argument put to them these days about poverty, inequity and the environment....they appear instead to react more quickly when directly confronted by their own fear, which is a far more effective motivational message....at least it would appear to be the case in Argentina.  Fear = coherence.  The Argentineans provided a coherent message to power after all.  And so in North America we witness these polite attempts to find the ways and means of making power understand the predicament....with the boot heels of the corporate police never positioned very far from the people's necks...and we still have people who have never read enough to understand the reality staring them in the face, challenging others about answers and solutions which would otherwise never occur to them.

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SJ It occurs to me that the people in the streets of Greece probably understand the Argentinean experience.  Both had fascist governments in the 70's which is well within living memory.  To me that societal memory is a very important ingredient in the mix that brings people out to fight in the streets.  

In Canada we have not had the open coup and the rule of Generals.  The slow boil we have been subjected too has left us lethargic and ill prepared for the police state tactics like the ones employed at the G20 summit.  Despite the abuse of thousands of peaceful protestors the general population did not see themselves in the demonstrators shoes enough to even make it a serious election issue in Toronto itself.  People who grew up under overt totalitarian governments seem to be able to see the current liberal democracy game for what it is.  They've been coup'ed before and will not be cowed again.

Slumberjack

Yes, the 'in living memory' point is the issue here.  Slightly beyond that however we do have instances of police firing into crowds of demonstrators in Winnipeg and Regina, and where coincidentally and after the fact, the government of the day placed a few popular demands on the agenda for consideration.  The motivation to enact some structural reforms seem to flow from deliberating whether to continue shooting people in the streets and how long such a strategy could be sustained, or trying something else.

Gaian

Watched Hedges break out in tears in a long interview with him at the Wall St. site on Oct.15. He had just said that turning around the corporate/state apparatus of control was not going to be accomplished in his time, but there were his children, particularly his three-year-old...I used to think of Canada in isolation from events in Greece and Argentina, but now this grandad can't. Not in a democracy riddled with fear, ignorance and greed. Chris Hedges' tears are so very understandable.

And yet in Oct. '62 we were waiting for nuclear bombs to rain down eh? There, needed that bit of rationalization from a relativist's backpack. What a sad species we are.

Slumberjack

Lessons from the Crackdown

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Even respectable Left-media reports on the OWS movement reflexively resort to this crude dichotomy, identifying protestors as either "peaceful," and therefore legitimate, or "violent" and therefore not. Chris Hedges, an outspoken supporter of the movement and a reasonably good journalist, is a case in point. In his column from yesterday, he offers a vigorous denunciation of the American capitalist-imperialist system. But then, advancing his own completely ahistorical understanding of the process through which the security apparatuses of the state begin to internally dissolve and switch sides, he advances the following argument, which relies on a complete non sequitur: "The process of defection among the ruling class and security forces is slow and often imperceptible. These defections are advanced through a rigid adherence to nonviolence [sic], a refusal to respond to police provocation and a verbal respect for the blue-uniformed police, no matter how awful they can be while wading into a crowd and using batons as battering rams against human bodies."

Huh? Aside from failing to provide an accurate description of how this process has actually unfolded historically- in Russia, China, Cuba, Vietnam, etc.- there is absolutely no logical reason why the henchman of the powerful will begin to switch sides only if they see protestors endlessly enduring punishing cop brutality. One could just as well say, and much more plausibly, that cops, soldiers, and sailors will be inspired by revolutionaries scoring there own victories, refusing to sit back passively, and showing the ruthless security apparatuses of the state that they're prepared to fight for victory by any means necessary. But there's no logical connection either way.

It is understandable that Americans have such a strange fixation with non-violence. Every schoolchild grows up hearing about Gandhi and Dr. King and peaceful protest. For many, images of Dr. King speaking at the Washington monument represent the high water mark of American protest politics. These historical images, worthy in and of themselves of course, have infected the consciousness of many American political movements, and hampered the Left, forcing it to abide by an old, completely ahistorical American political myth, that non-violent protest is the sine qua non of protest movements, or a panacea applicable to all political situations. This plays right into the hands of the media-spectacle and the interests of the power-elite. The inherently unstable and imprecise definition of violence makes it possible for almost any behavior to be called violent, and, conversely, for any obviously violent act perpetrated by the state to be declared nonviolent. Again, witness Berkeley: it is apparently sometimes violent to hold hands.

Where does this guy get off referring to those gentrified elements of the left as tools of the power-elite.

Slumberjack

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Chris Hedges, an outspoken supporter of the movement and a reasonably good journalist, is a case in point.....advancing his own completely ahistorical understanding of the process through which the security apparatuses of the state begin to internally dissolve and switch sides, he advances the following argument, which relies on a complete non sequitur: "The process of defection among the ruling class and security forces is slow and often imperceptible. These defections are advanced through a rigid adherence to nonviolence [sic], a refusal to respond to police provocation and a verbal respect for the blue-uniformed police, no matter how awful they can be while wading into a crowd and using batons as battering rams against human bodies."

Huh? Aside from failing to provide an accurate description of how this process has actually unfolded historically- in Russia, China, Cuba, Vietnam, etc.- there is absolutely no logical reason why the henchman of the powerful will begin to switch sides only if they see protestors endlessly enduring punishing cop brutality.

The Centurian from Mark 15:39!!  No wonder about his failure to provide an example! Laughing

Fidel

Phone surveillance software maker tries to silence whistleblower

wired.com wrote:
A data-logging software company is seeking to squash an Android developer's critical research into its software that is secretly installed on millions of phones, but Trevor Eckhart is refusing to publicly apologize for his research and remove the company's training manuals from his website.

Though the software is installed on millions of Android, BlackBerry and Nokia phones, Carrier IQ was virtually unknown until the 25-year-old Eckhart analyzed its workings, recently revealing that the software secretly chronicles a user's phone experience, from its apps, battery life and texts. Some carriers prevent users who actually find the software from controlling what information is sent.

The Stasi never dreamed of possessing the technical capabilities for surveilling millions of peoples' personal lives like this. It's hyperfascism run amok.

Alas, Emannuel Goldstein is slain from the foundations of the netherworld. It's a nightmare, and you're in it.

Northern Shoveler Northern Shoveler's picture

The government has some checks on its actions.  Corporations have no such restraints.  Look at the World News Murdoch story and imagine that the boardrooms of many major corporations are filled with people with the same distain for democracy and peoples rights.  

Slumberjack

There is no collective 'us' on one side, and a relatively smaller collective of 'them' on the other, although it certainly cannot appear that way when inhaling pepper spray, or when tasting a swing of the riot baton from other 99%ers. The fate of the hypothetical 99% and 1% are bound together, and only the 99% has the inherent power to cut the bindings. Neither can perish if the other is to maintain its current consistency. If the one percent were to be strung up on the lamp posts, and as desirable an outcome as that might be for some, the 99% would briefly disappear to become the 100%, until such a time, and in short order I would argue, as a newly reconstituted 1% emerges within the existing structures of governance, or within the potential variants which are required to support and direct governance.

With the way humanity typically engages in the political, new cycles of repression and revolt are inevitable and historical facts. Even as Marxism summoned people to appropriate the means of their subjectivity, namely the mechanisms and structures of work, such occurrences to date have only ever resulted at best in maintaining people as subjects within a system of quotas, surpluses and shortages, supervised by loyal individuals better 'suited' to such tasks; while being pandered to with recognition by supervisors and the political class alike as the best industrial furnace worker, or the most prolific widget maker, even if it means your poster adorning the factory wall...is in itself essentially nothing but another means of control.

The collective 100%, at least in the western context, has done nothing but build, support, maintain, widen and deepen everything that some have otherwise managed to be convinced and rightly so, to despise. The 99% and the 1% remain fused into one of several available paradigms, which for a significant percentage of them includes varying degrees, depending on ones relative position or station, of remaining unconvinced against all evidence of the system's detrimental effects, at least enough to despise it in the same way as the more politically astute say they do. Another alternative involves coming around enough to view Capitalism's unchangeably destructive nature, and seeing no viable way out except through cyclical and ritualized processes which are designed to promptly dispose of the applicant back to square one without ever making substantive progress; the fact of which remains oblivious to those who insist that another turn of the mouse wheel will make all the difference in the world if we would only apply ourselves within the system to the desired outcome. Then there are people who ditch out completely, having recognized the game for what it is, but who are nonetheless mired in the collective muck.

Expecting a pension from government for instance, within any conceivable modern economic construct, and having them provide one on the basis of ensuring the very bare essentials of survival, against the threat of an ‘or else' from the populace [and wasn't that the original purpose of social safety nets?...a stipend from the appointed managers of society...where in return the rest of the population would leave them in peace to continue their supposed work on our behalf?] on today's globalized terrain means supporting the ever widening and deepening processes of Capitalism and its attendant environmental effects, along with easy choices it seems these days between the exigencies of profit and the welfare of populations in general.

NDPP

good one SJ...

NDPP

The New Authoritarianism: From Decaying Democracies To Technocratic Dictatorships and Beyond

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2011/11/28/the-new-author...

"This essay explores major ongoing regime changes that have a profound impact on governance, the class structures, economic institutions, political freedom and national sovereignty.

We delineate a two-stage process of political regression. The first stage involves the transition from a decaying democracy to an oligarchical democracy; the second stage currently unfolding in Europe, involves the transition from oligarchic democracy to colonial-technocratic dictatorship.

The penultimate section will highlight the reasons why the imperial ruling classes and their national collaborators have overturned the pre-existing 'democratic' oligarchical ruling formulas of 'indirect rule' in favor of a naked power grab. The turn to direct colonial rule (a coup by any other name) was consummated by the major financial ruling classes of Europe and the US.

We will evaluate the socio-economic impact of rule by imperial, appointed colonial technocrats, the reason for rule by fiat and force over the previous process of persuasion, manipulation and co-optation.

What is at stake goes beyond the current regime changes to identifying the most basic institutional configurations which will define the life choices, personal and political freedoms of future generations for decades to come.."

Gaian

Be really great if the author had spelled out the driving force of all that change...the co-optation of the masses by FINANCE capital, beginning in the 1960s. Pension funds and all. :)

Slumberjack

I think Chomsky had mentioned something about human nature, a slightly optimistic and perhaps mythical elaboration of which having been recorded long ago, comparatively speaking, in the Foucault debate up thread.  But pensions and social spending can hardly be described as a co-optation by Capital.  It seemed as though these things were the preferred choice of the planners in society, from that of continuing to shoot desperate people in the streets who might have otherwise been persuaded by Soviet style communism.  They were calming devices more than anything else.  Nowadays though control is nearly complete, and alternate repressive measures are available.  You just have to make people go away with a few arrests, bloody noses or lacerated spleens, and in any event there is no alternate theory or viable practice to experiment with, or indeed permitted to be entertained within contemporary corporate politics.

Gaian

Sj: "But pensions and social spending can hardly be described as a co-optation by Capital."

Dangling a decent end of life (with good wine) in front of the Greek worker when she/he reached 50-55 was not co-optatiion? Turning all those retired autowaorkers in Oshawa into follopwers of the market and voters of Wee Jimmie and his clan, was not a product of co-optation by capital? Heck, finance capital was crowing about it a half century back, as one can read in Richard Parker's bio on John Kenneth Galbraith.

You might say they made up your mysterious "planners in society."

It's a marvelous essay and takes me back to the days of my Brit marxist sociologists. Heavy slogging, but if you analyze it carefully, you'll find the co-optation by capital...not unexpectedly in marxist analysis, of course. :)

Fidel

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"Ask the American public if they want an FBI wiretap and they'll say, 'no.' If you ask them do they want a feature on their phone that helps the FBI find their missing child they'll say, 'Yes.'" --Louis Freeh, former FBI Director