Libya 22: Aftermath

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M. Spector M. Spector's picture

... or the same definition of "assets".

NDPP

Testimony Of a Libyan Man Who Has Filed a Lawsuit Against NATO for Killing his Family

http://www.spyghana.com/international-news/africa-news/testimony-of-a-li...

"NATO bombing of this kind has not just targeted my family, but hundreds of other families now in Libya, in what is clearly an illegal war waged by NATO that is not protecting civilians but murdering them in their hundreds. This NATO aggression must cease and I am seeking justice through international courts against NATO for these crimes..."

Forward to your MP - they share responsibility for these murders - and the results below

Libya Dispatch: Are the Rebel 'Good Guys' Turning Bad

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/887...

"When they said Libya Free, they meant the cars, the refrigerators and the flat-screen television sets,' runs one joke doing the rounds in Tripoli's cafes..."

 

NDPP

The 'Rebel' Assassination of Muammar Gaddafi: A NATO Operation From A to Z

http://empirestrikesblack.com/2011/10/did-nato-special-forces-assassinat...

"...a picture is emerging as to the actual circumstances of his death, one that puts NATO special forces - likely the British SAS - in the centre of the frame..."

Obama: 'Libya Mission Underscores NATO's Effectiveness'

http://www.defense.gov//news/newsarticle.aspx?id=65965

"The Operation Unified Protector mission in Libya demonstrated that NATO remains the world's most effective alliance, President Barack Obama said today as he and French President Nicolas Sarkozy praised the men and women who carried it out...:

NDPP

US Sniper in Libya!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANWG_dCAXII

"At 1:30 in position with sniper rifle targeting Libyan house. Again at 3:07 and shooting at 3:24.."

Can't wait to hear what JTF2 was doing over there...

NDPP

Last Canadian Pilots, Aircrew Return from Libya

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1082029--last-canadian-pilots...

"The Aurora was part of OPERATION MOBILE, CANADA"S CONTRIBUTION to the NATO-led mission to protect civilians in Libya. Defence Minister Peter MacKay was on hand for the welcome home ceremony at 14 Wing.

'Canada once again punched above its weight as part of an international coalition,' MacKay said in a statement. 'The men and women of the Canadian Forces confirmed their leadership position at NATO.'.."

 

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UN Report Offers 'Smoking Gun' Proof of US-NATO Lies About Libya

http://sott.net/articles/show/236961-UN-Report-Offers-Smoking-Gun-Proof-...

"...Here is 'smoking gun' proof that NATO and the US have been operating through a smokescreen of lies, as well as intimidation. Please read the following January 4, 2011 report of the 16th Session of the UN General Assembly Human Rights Council, Universal Periodic Review.."

NDPP

The Law Case of the Century: Indictment Against NATO Military and Political Leaders

http://english.pravda.ru//opinion/columnists/06-11-2011/119534-indictmen...

"Indictment against NATO military and political leaders.."

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

They forgot to include an indictment against Russia for failing to stop the passage of Resolution 1973 in the Security Council.

NDPP

good point - China too..

Unionist

And while we're at it - I would have liked to see Stephen Harper's name there, not just Claude Bouchard. Just a point of national pride.

NDPP

yes - and all  MPS who voted to bomb Libya as well. They too were part of this joint criminal enterprise. I guess, as always, some highly placed state accomplices can get away with murder...in our name too. And even be voted back into office. So obviously as far as Canada goes, there's more than enough complicity to go around...

NDPP

The Government, Parliament and Military Forces of Sweden Reported for War Crimes in Libya

http://highcrimes.org/en

Just change Sweden to Canada - a Canadian version could and should be produced...

instead we vote for them...

Make Money, Make War (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/profit-libya-companies-british-067/

"NATO may have ended its operations in LIbya but the Western presence is far from over, with big companies replacing the warplanes. The countries that bombed the oil-rich state are now getting lucrative contracts to rebuild it..

So far the conflict in Libya looks like an excellent investment: $500 million to oust a dictator, with a return of US $300 Billion in business contracts when it is all over. Now that humanitarian goals no longer need to be touted, war suddenly makes good business sense..."

NDPP

Seif al Islam Gadhafi: 'We Are Not Happy with Canada'

http://archive.libyaalmostakbal.net/libyaInMedia/theGlobe111204a.htm

"Gadhafi's powerful son has one grudge still to settle. He is angry with Canada. And he wants payback...

'And for quite a long time we have regarded Canada as an enemy to Libya and as just a follower of the Americans..'

blast from the past - true then true now

NDPP

Removing Gaddafi Was Always NATO's Goal  -  by Thabo Mbeki

http://www.thenewage.co.za/blogdetail.aspx?mid=186&blog_id=1547

"It is clear to many on our continent that what has happened in Libya has established a very dangerous precedent. The question has therefore been raised - which African country will be next?"

NDPP

NATO Worried Over Possible Libya War Crimes Probe

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/11/11/nato-war-crimes-libya-un.html

"The possibility of an ICC probe is already causing friction within the alliance, officials said. At a meeting last week of NATO ambassadors and their counterparts from partner countries, the Russian ambassador Dimitry Rogozin, noted a number of airstrikes could be considered potential war crimes..."

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

An important contribution to the assessment of the war on Libya by Hugh Roberts, in the [url=http://www.lrb.co.uk/v33/n22/hugh-roberts/who-said-gaddafi-had-to-go]London Review of Books[/url]:

[excerpt - with emphasis added]

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Many critics of Nato’s intervention have complained that it departed from the terms of Resolution 1973 and was for that reason illegal; that the resolution authorised neither regime change nor the introduction of troops on the ground. This is a misreading. Article 4 ruled out the introduction of an occupying force. But Article 42 of the 1907 Hague Regulations states that ‘territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army,’ a definition conserved by the 1949 Geneva Conventions. What Resolution 1973 ruled out was the introduction of a force intended to take full political and legal responsibility for the place, but that was never the intention; ground forces were indeed eventually introduced, but they have at no point accepted political or legal responsibility for anything and so fall short of the conventional definition of an occupying force. It may be that this misreading of the resolution was connived at by the governments that drafted it in order to secure the best (or least bad) tally of votes in favour on 17 March; this would of course be only one instance of the sophistry to which the metteurs en scène of intervention have resorted. And regime change was tacitly covered by the phrase ‘all necessary measures’. That this was the right way to read the resolution had already been made clear by the stentorian rhetoric of Cameron and Hague, Sarkozy and Juppé, and Obama and Clinton in advance of the Security Council vote. Since the issue was defined from the outset as protecting civilians from Gaddafi’s murderous onslaught ‘on his own people’, it followed that effective protection required the elimination of the threat, which was Gaddafi himself for as long as he was in power (subsequently revised to ‘for as long as he is in Libya’ before finally becoming ‘for as long as he is alive’). From the attitudes struck by the Western powers in the run-up to the Security Council debate, [b]it was evident that the cleverly drafted resolution tacitly authorised a war to effect regime change. Those who subsequently said that they did not know that regime change had been authorised either did not understand the logic of events or were pretending to misunderstand in order to excuse their failure to oppose it.[/b] By inserting ‘all necessary measures’ into the resolution, London, Paris and Washington licensed themselves, with Nato as their proxy, to do whatever they wanted whenever they wanted in the full knowledge that they would never be held to account, since as permanent veto-holding members of the Security Council they are above all laws.

NDPP

Good one MS. Yes. Absolutely so and good that the UN escape hatch of the  war's international supporting political cast has been nailed so well shut here. Of course they knew what they were doing and did it anyway...A fixed game, as are so many nowdays including 'voting' them all in...

NDPP

NATO'S Law of the Jungle in Libya  -  by Peter Dyer

http://consortiumnews.com/2011/11/11/natos-law-of-the-jungle-in-libya/

"If there is one thing the 'humanitarian' intervention in Libya as convincingly demonstrated it is this: the only real international law is the law of brute force...

As US Rep Dennis Kucinich, D Ohio said: 'NATO's top commanders may have acted under color of international law but they are not exempt from international law. If members of the Gaddafi regime are to be held accountable, NATO's top commanders must also be held accountable through the ICC for all civilian deaths resulting from bombing. Otherwise we will have witnessed [and made no effort to stop!] the triumph of a new international gangsterism."

Terror and Revenge Engulf NATO's Libya  -  by Franklin Lamb

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/11/terror-and-revenge-engulfs-natos-...

"The 'New Libya' has entered its own 'Terror' which is spreading inexorably, aided by NATO member states including American, French and British SAS units known locally as 'disappearance squads'. This is one of thle rapidly developing consequences of the UN's rush to 'protect Libya's civilian population' last spring...

It is clear that the current period is cascading into paroxysmal revenge attacks and political cleansing..."

this must be what is meant when our pols refer to Canada's 'heavy-lifting in Libya'...other than that, of course, their continuing silence on this joint criminal enterprise tells you everything you need to know about their own complicity. Don't be surprised either if JTF2's name pops up at some point as involved with the activities of the 'disappearance squads' mentioned above...

NDPP

Cynthia McKinney on NATO and Libya (and vid)

http://warisacrime.org/content/cynthia-mckinney-nato-and-libya

"I was just contacted by someone saying that yet another prominent Libyan -- a nice man whom I met--had been tortured and killed by the 'rebels' who are now recognized by the US and other governments as the legitimate government of Libya. I recall those who were vociferous in their support of NATO's assault on Libya and those who were SILENT...'

On The Gadaffi Assassination...

http://www.panafricanistinternational.org/?p=1400

"...Without the participation of NATO, no force in Libya could have overthrown Gaddafi, let alone assassinate him. How did a No Fly Zone turn into a license to obliterate a country? When did it become OK for [North] America to simply invade a sovereign nation, kill thousands of civilians, destroy all its infrastructure, steal its wealth and murder its leader?

Where is the international OUTRAGE and CONDEMNATION?"

NDPP

Invading Libya Brings UK Government $200 Billion

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/210073.html

"The British government announced that its role in invading Libya would bring it profits of around $200 billion winning contracts for rebuilding the country.."

NDPP

Jibril Turns Against Foreign Powers That Aided Qaddafi Overthrow

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-14/jibril-turns-against-foreign-po...

"...He also has a 'hunch' Qaddafi was 'killed based on a request by a certain foreign power,' that wanted the dictator to be 'silent forever.' Jibril said he regrets that Qaddafi wasn't kept alive to face trial and suspects foul play. One or more 'foreign powers' he declined to name had an interest in ensuring Qaddafi stayed quiet.

'Too many secrets could have been discovered...He was the black box of the whole country. He had too many wheelings and dealings with too many leaders in the world. With him, unfortunately, a lot of information is gone..."

'Green Resistance is Strong': LIzzie Phelan Interviews a young Libyan

http://eccleza.net/2011/11/14/libyan-man-the-green-resistance-is-strong/

"The young Libyan man confirms that since November 11 there are clashes between Green Resistance fighters and NATO-rebels on the ground in the entire western Libya. The biggest clashes have been in Zawiyeh, where 3,000 prisoners were freed by the Green Resistance. He says there are Green Flags and pictures of Muammar Qaddafi going up everywhere in Libya."

End of Operation MOBILE: National Defence and Canadian Forces Response to the Situation in Libya

http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/feature-vedette/2011/02/libya-libye-eng.asp

"As Minister of National Defence, I again reiterate how proud I am, and how proud I believe Canadians are, of our country's military contribution to the mission in Libya. Our men and women in uniform are playing a key role in the enforcement of the international community's will through their significant contribution to the NATO mission..."

this Canadian isn't at all proud Mr Minister. Arguably, you are now an unindicted warcriminal for what you have done to Libya:

[email protected]

NDPP

NATO War Crimes: Libyan Humanitarian Activist Vs NATO (and vid)

http://www.voltairenet.org/Libyan-humanitarian-activist-vs

"...Khaled El Hamedi brings us his personal testimony of the barbarism that destroyed his loved ones, his life and his entire country..."

 

Libya Media Blackout Why?  - by Timothy Bancroft Hinchey

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29703.htm

"Has anyone noticed the virtual silence on Libya among western news agencies? However, in the case of Libya, the story is far from over..."

NDPP

Heritage Oil Recruits Former Tory Candidate for Access to Libya's Resources

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/nov/13/oil-commodities?newsfeed=...

"Tony Buckingham, the British former soldier of forture [Executive Outcomes, Sandline International] who heads Heritage Oil [ on TSE] the exploration firm, appears to have sought assistance from a would-be Conservative MP to get a foothold in Libya, following the role of UK forces there in installing the new regime.."

NDPP

Ruin and Rebuild: Warfare Worth $300B Libya Windfall (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/libya-rebuild-contracts-uk-385/

"...Now the NTC delegation is in London to hold talks with top business executives on 'the massive opportunities to rebuild Libya'. With hundreds of billions of dollars in contracts up for grabs, Libya's bombardment looks like an excellent investment from any perspective..

Sukant Chandan a spokesman for British Citizens for Peace in Libya however is convinced the fighting will not stop. There are tribes within the country who are strongly against selling the natural resources of Libya to the former colonial powers.."

NDPP

Will The ICC Act? Indictment Against NATO

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/16-11-2011/119646-indictment...

"...the hidden goal was a regime change in Libya.."

 

Libyan Mission Canadian Forces to be Honoured

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/11/16/pol-mackay-libya.html

"Canadian Forces members who served in Libya are getting a special ceremony to honour them later this month, Defence Minister Peter MacKay said Wednesday.

The ceremony will be Nov 24 on Parliament Hill and will honour Lieut. Gen. Charles Bouchard, who led the mission.."

protests are certainly in order

Northern Shoveler Northern Shoveler's picture

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Libyan Mission Canadian Forces to be Honoured

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/11/16/pol-mackay-libya.html

"Canadian Forces members who served in Libya are getting a special ceremony to honour them later this month, Defence Minister Peter MacKay said Wednesday.

The ceremony will be Nov 24 on Parliament Hill and will honour Lieut. Gen. Charles Bouchard, who led the mission.."

protests are certainly in order

So which NDP MP's will stand shoulder to shoulder with the Conservatives and commend our brave RCAF Condor Squad for dropping thousands of bombs on cities still inhabited by civilians.  Maybe all the leadership candidates can come together and jointly praise the bravest our society has to offer.

NDPP

It's such a disgusting celebration one hardly knows where to begin...they have totally destroyed a country's excellent infrastructure, murdered its head of state, and many of its people, blindly stolen the resources, installed brutal puppets as leaders...and we're going to 'honour' the warcriminals while NOT ONE OF OUR'REPRESENTATIVES'  expresses a word of criticism.

yet many here support them and urge that all do as they. Always the same reason: 'the others are worse'.

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

NDPP wrote:

Libyan Mission Canadian Forces to be Honoured

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/11/16/pol-mackay-libya.html

"Canadian Forces members who served in Libya are getting a special ceremony to honour them later this month, Defence Minister Peter MacKay said Wednesday.

The ceremony will be Nov 24 on Parliament Hill and will honour Lieut. Gen. Charles Bouchard, who led the mission.."

protests are certainly in order

 

It made me nauseous to hear this news. The government didn't even dare do anything like this with Afghanistan, which they have declared as official over or won.

The damage done in Libya and Iraq, two countries that had solid infrastructure and services that rivaled their regional neighbours, is disgusting. all those lives lost to for regime change just  underscores how depraved these military interventions were.

NDPP

I heartily agree LL: Here's part of the problem

Midweek Bleat: The UN is Merely a Zombie to the US

http://www.thenewage.co.za/blogdetail.aspx?mid=186&blog_id=1578

"...There is an urgent need at this time to question the relevance of the United Nations as a platform to bring peace in the world. If the world body can so blatantly flout its own decisions as it did in the case of Resolution 1973 over the enforcement of a no-fly zone in Libya, can it be trusted as a peacemaker?

It is my fervent view that the Libyan situation has exposed for all to see how this body is no longer relevant as a mediator on behalf of vulnerable nations.

The question is, can the UN be made to account for the 50,000 plus deaths because of the war led by [a Canadian led] NATO? This is a urgent task for the body has become the zombie of the US and its allies."

The same could be asked/said of Canada's parliament..

Bec.De.Corbin Bec.De.Corbin's picture

Just head on the news Saif al-Islam Kadhafi has been captured.  

 

That is all...

NDPP

Gadhafi's Son Saif-al-Islam Captured in Southern Libya - NTC (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/saif-gaddafi-arrested-libya-755/

"It remains to be seen if the NTC will comply with UN Resolution 1970 and hand Saif over to the Hague Tribunal.."

 

Capture of Gadhafi's Son Sets Up Libyan Legal Wrangle (and vids)

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20111119/gadhafi-son-caught-111119/

"As a matter of national pride, Libyans will very much place a premium on trying him in Libya. They'll try in many respects to replicate what the Iraqis did with the trial of Saddam Hussein.."

Fidel

 Al-Qa'eda Hoist Jolly Roger Over Benghazi Court House  Sword Gang Complicit in Libya's 9/11

NDPP

"Yes, there are plenty of Al Qaeda  among us. And I want to add that each AQ fighter is worth 100 of us during battles. They are very well trained and very expert with explosives. I don't know how they can do what they do with simple devices, plus they are not afraid to die. But they are not in control in Libya. Whether they will be eventually, time will tell.

http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com/2011/11/bad-moon-rising-over-gr...

NDPP

'Gaddafi Son Knows Too Much' (vid)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvk4yxLlSug

'will be silenced'

Bec.De.Corbin Bec.De.Corbin's picture

NDPP wrote:

"Yes, there are plenty of Al Qaeda  among us. And I want to add that each AQ fighter is worth 100 of us during battles. They are very well trained and very expert with explosives. I don't know how they can do what they do with simple devices, plus they are not afraid to die. But they are not in control in Libya. Whether they will be eventually, time will tell.

http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com/2011/11/bad-moon-rising-over-gr...

It's a good read but please have you firewall and any anti-malware programs you have turned on... this web site set off mine several times while I was there exploring around.

NDPP

thanks Bec, haven't noticed any problems,

Bec.De.Corbin Bec.De.Corbin's picture

  

It wasn't anything too wild; it just set off my anti-malware program's IP blocker several times while I was there. No install attempts were detected.

NDPP

Here is an alternative URL, for those who may have been frightened off the posted one:

http://www.countercurrents.org/lamb191111.htm

 

NDPP

Gadhafi's Son Faces Death Penalty

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Gadhafi+faces+death+penalty/5747002/st...

"Libya officials have made it clear they will seek the death penalty for Saif al Islam Gadhafi, as the former dictator's son demanded a lawyer Monday.."

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

Funny how the story doesn't even mention the crime(s) he's charged with.

I guess that doesn't matter. The important thing is to see that he's killed.

Northern Shoveler Northern Shoveler's picture

M. Spector wrote:

Funny how the story doesn't even mention the crime(s) he's charged with.

I guess that doesn't matter. The important thing is to see that he's killed.

His name is Gaddafi is any other proof required to impose the death penalty?  Unlike his father he will get to be in a a room with kangaroos before he is executed.

NDPP

Short Report From Bani Walid Clash This Morning

http://sonsofmalcolm.blogspot.com/2011/11/short-report-from-bani-walid-c...

"...NATO rebels came to arrest some people in the city, they came with about 20 armed cars...local residents resisted as people feel they are being targeted and ethnically cleansed for their stand against the NATO intervention in Libya. The fighting resulted in the martyrdom of 4 civilians and the death of 8 NATO rebels...

Please, we need help and support for our families who are being slaughtered in Bani Walid and other parts of our beloved Libya under the so called Libyan revolution - who terrorize anyone who criticizes them.

The media is not reporting this..."

NDPP

Were Saif Gaddafi's Fingers Chopped Off by Libyan Rebels?

http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/251277

Tripoli (ANI): A doctor who examined Saif al Islam Gaddfi's wounds has fuelled speculation that his fingers were chopped off by the rebels..."

'Very impressive' - John Baird on rebels

Secrets Not Saif: Death Penalty Threat for Gaddafi's Son (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/saif-islam-death-penalty-097/

"...The International Criminal Court in the Hague says it is not going to call for his extradition, instead allowing Libya to try him on home soil. His future might indeed by bleak in the hands of Libya's new rulers. Libya officials are already calling for the death penalty in what many fear is a tactic to keep those dirty secrets hidden forever.

British Labour MP Jeremy Corbyn told RT he believes the ICC's willingness to allow Saif Gaddafi to be tried at home all but guarantees that any inconvenient truths he carries will be buried forever.."

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

NDPP wrote:

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British Labour MP Jeremy Corbyn told RT he believes the ICC's willingness to allow Saif Gaddafi to be tried at home all but guarantees that any inconvenient truths he carries will be buried forever.."

This may be so, but in principle Qaddafi should not be sent to the ICC. His crimes, if any, are a domestic matter and the ICC should keep its fucking imperialist nose out of the case. Every time someone is extradited to the ICC to face charges that have nothing to do with international law, the illegitimate ICC is given [i]de facto[/i] wider jurisdiction to interfere in internal affairs of countries.

Until the ICC is prepared to try the real international criminals, we should oppose any attepts to confer legitimacy upon it.

NDPP

I entirely agree:

'Rapist' Ocampo Lies About Saif-al-Islam?

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2011/10/rapist-ocampo-lies-about-saif-al-i...

"Ocampo cannot be trusted to speak the truth. The International Criminal Court (ICC) would appear to be a tool of the CIA. The ICC chief prosecutor Luis Moreno Ocampo has no credibility.."

NDPP

New Libyan Foreign Minister Has Canadian Connection

http://blogs.canada.com/2011/11/23/new-libyan-foreign-minister-has-canad...

"Agence France Presse says Ashar Bin Hayal actually served as Libya's ambassador to Canada before joining the anti-Gadhafi regime in the 1990s. Could the connection help Canadian companies make inroads into the new Libya?"

SUNCOR Heading Back to Libya

http://blogs.canada.com/2011/11/23/suncor-heading-back-to-libya/

"Embassy newspaper is reporting that Canadian oil giant SUNCOR is preparing to head back to Libya..."

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

I guess that's part of Harper's New Economic Stimulus Plan :-(

Forget about creating jobs in Canada but help corporations rake in the $$$ from reconstruction and resource exploitation contracts in war torn countries. Canada probably doesn't even collect much taxes on those chunks of change.

NDPP

Libya's New Government for 2012

http://libyancivilwar.blogspot.com/2011/11/libyas-new-government-for-201...

"On November 22, 2011, a new government of Libya, with new ministers who will matter in coming months, was announced by the Interim NTC. 'Gadhafi hunters' get key posts..."

NDPP

The Troubling Case of Saif Gadhafi  - by Franklin Lamb [* Must Read*]

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/25/the-troubling-case-of-saif-gadhafi/

"...On the question of Saif's health there is increasing concern also because his guards claim they cannot take him to Zintan's only hospital because someone would likely kill him in order to collect on the substantial rumored Qatar/NATO offered cash reward for whoever assassinates him, thus presumably helping 'the new Libya' and its allies avoid a messy trial.

Meanwhile, after what he claims is a change of heart, the International Criminal Court (ICC) Prosecutor, Luis Moreno-Ocampo, now professes that Libya, not the Hague, is the best place after all for Saif al Islam and his trial.."

Urgent Action: Petition Campaign for Saif Gaddafi

http://libya360.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/urgent-action-petition-campaign...

"Saif Al Islam Gaddafi was taken capitive by the Zintan rebels over one month ago. He has developed gangrene in his injured hand where his fingers were severed and bones shattered and requires immediate surgery.

Further, he is denied access to his legal council. The ICRC refuse to discuss his condition with either his immediate family or his legal council. These are clear violations of International law. Saif al Islam is at immanent risk of execution.

The following document is the Gaddafi family's initial response to the ICC charges against Saif Al Islam and Abdullah Al Senussi. I implore readers to assist us by submitting appeals for compassionate intervention to the following..."

Fresh UK - Saif Gaddafi Links Revealed

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/212614.html

"...The revelations are a source of fresh embarrassment for the British government as it has already come under scathing criticism after its hypocritical side was revealed when British officials welcomed Saif's arrest despite earlier considering him an agent for democracy. When the British officials sensed they could exert military control over oil-rich Libya and have full access to its resources, they decided not to hammer out a deal with Saif, with whom they had been in close contact for months to find a way out of the Libyan conflict..."

contrarianna

NDPP wrote:

The Troubling Case of Saif Gadhafi  - by Franklin Lamb [* Must Read*]

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/25/the-troubling-case-of-saif-gadhafi/

"...On the question of Saif's health there is increasing concern also because his guards claim they cannot take him to Zintan's only hospital because someone would likely kill him in order to collect on the substantial rumored Qatar/NATO offered cash reward for whoever assassinates him, thus presumably helping 'the new Libya' and its allies avoid a messy trial.

Meanwhile, after what he claims is a change of heart, the International Criminal Court (ICC) Prosecutor, Luis Moreno-Ocampo, now professes that Libya, not the Hague, is the best place after all for Saif al Islam and his trial.."

As primarily the figleaf for Western interests and "justice", do not expect the ICC to press the case. as they know any unlikely co-operation with Libya on this issue could highlight other embarrassing questions for the parties involved.

Especially, the NTC's increasingly close relations with Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir,  wanted by the ICC for genocide in Darfur:

Quote:
Omar al-Bashir and Chairman of Libya's ruling ...(NTC) Mustafa Abdul-Jalil on Friday held joint talks in Khartoum, which focused on bilateral ties and issues of mutual concern....
[al-Bashir]: "It has been agreed on the establishment of a real integration between Sudan and Libya....

see China.org: "Sudan, Libya agree on political, economic integration between Sudan and Libya"
http://www.china.org.cn/world/2011-11/26/content_24010999.htm

 see also Reuters: "Libya leader in Khartoum thanks Sudan for weapons"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/25/us-sudan-libya-weapons-idUSTRE...

 

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