Babble needs a Forum: Peace/Anti-war Activism

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Rikardo
Babble needs a Forum: Peace/Anti-war Activism

 

Babble has a forum for Feminist Activism and other areas, but none for the anti-war activists.  The Anti-war movement in Canada is weak and divided between pro-NATO (Project Ploughshares) and anti-NATO

(Canadian Peace Alliance, COAT).  R2P justifies Afghanistan and Libya to many on the Left. The Liberals got us into Afghanistan and the Conservatives, Libya but both had all-party support as with Yugoslavia.

 

 (I've also posted this in Activist Toolkit with three positive replies)

mmphosis

Babble needs a Forum: Peace/Anti-war Activism

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Erik Redburn

And one negative.  This is one Babble.ca doesn't need.  How about trying to add more content to the existing international forums instead? 

Boom Boom Boom Boom's picture

With war against Syria and Iran sounding more inevitable according to the pricks in power, I'd say the need for an anti-war forum is getting urgent.

Catchfire Catchfire's picture

I'm reticent toward this idea despite being wholeheartedly for the disability issues forum and halfheartedly for the animal welfare forum. Here's why:

First of all, the feminism forum is not an "activist" forum--it is meant to stake out a space where feminist principles can be developed and discussed where everyone already has certain established first principles (starting from "R," so to speak) and to assert an ideology or perspective usually marginalized. Disability issues very much fit this kind of motive and need, and so it was an easy decision.

babble doesn't really have "category" forums--we have "light" categories like media, culture, science, etc--but they're not very specific. This changed (kind of) when we added the "Environmental Justice" forum, which was kind of (imo) a way to capitalize on a growing green movement and emphasize rabble's committment to stopping climate change. "Animal Welfare" is of this bent, although as we've seen, I'm still hoping for some more discussion. An "anti-war" forum might seem to fulfill this criteria as well--except I don't see what can be achieved that isn't already achieved in the existing "activism" and "international" forums.

babble is guaranteed to already have threads about worldwide conflicts, and we are (supposed) to have an anti-imperialist policy (which has proven difficult to enforce), so how would an extra forum add value to babble? I just don't see it. I'm open to being convinced, but it will be a tough slog.

Boom Boom Boom Boom's picture

Point taken. I'm sure anti-war stuff will start cropping up more frequently as we get closer to war with Iran and Syria and Harper drools at the prospect.

 

Erik Redburn

Suit yourself either way.  The reason I for one don't think an additional antiwar/peace forum is needed is because its already pretty much covered in the international sections, most of which are already focused on ME conflicts (too much IMO) but 'animal rights' OTOH doesn't fit so neatly into the environmental format (cruelty to pets hardly constitute an 'environmental' threat like habitat loss) and gets very little attention in comparison to others.  But maybe it is better to just post more material on what already exists, if someone sees the need.  Dividing Babble.ca further probably won't do much to get its traffic up again.

Unionist

Agree with post #4.

Rikardo

"International news and politics" is the forum where most anti-war comments are made but I think Babble needs a place specifically for anti-war (peace) discussion.  For example this last Sunday, CBC's Cross Country Check-up had Terry Glavin as the expert on Afghanistan.  He is very pro-war but considers himself on the Left.  How do we deal with the triumphant support of our heros over Lbyia?  This is all strategy.  Where to discuss it ?  Perhaps some less used forums could be phased out.

Catchfire Catchfire's picture

Maybe the CBC needs an anti-war forum!

Erik Redburn

Glavin hardly represents the left here, or anywhere, really --although at onetime he was a decent advocate for aboriginal rights and sometimes favoured the BC NDP over the old Socreds.  That would give him progressive 'creds' in some peoples eyes, and if he now favours Western imperialism I suppose it would make him the perfect 'counterbalance' to openly partisan neo-cons in the media.  The idea of unanimity of opinion among supposed political rivals reflecting an undeniable reality or necessity is actually a clever PR ploy for pushing open debate right off the dial.  I hope it doesn't ever get quite That far on babble.ca though.

Rikardo

I quiite agree with your take on Glavin  These are the kind of comments that need a forum. I've read the moderator's carefully expressed opinion.  But I feel that if Environment has its niche why wouldn't Peace/Anti-war.  "International news and politics" is for specific events outside of Canada.