Peaceful resolution for the St James Library yurt.
At least 3 arrests so far.
Occupy Toronto, part 2
Wed, 2011-11-23 13:05
#52
RevolutionPlease
Wed, 2011-11-23 13:50
#53
i turned on 'city' tv- the one with the guy wearing suspenders- this morning, and heard him say 'everything was 'peaceful' when the cops moved in to crush the resistance to law and order' or whatever...so angrily I called the station and said the police used obvious brute force to remove the Occupy protestors; it's plain thuggery, and a big lie to say it was peaceful! If someone showed YOU (a young lady answered ph, and said absolutely nothing, as if stunned by the criticism!)...showed YOU a weapon while telling you to move along, you'd think that was wrong, but because it's the wallstreet bullyboys' helpers, you call it 'peaceful? Nonsense....
Also, I have a brilliant idea on how to move things along to the Occupy movement's (we 99 percenters) benefit. Let's use Proxy' representation, or howver you say it. Example, I give one of the activists my name, phone number address etc, with sworn statement saying that THAT person 'represents' me on the streets, since i work and too busy/tired to rep myself ...there are tens of thousands, if not millions of supporters of OWS / Toronto etc who can only watch situation from a distance, powerless! If every activist thus represented a large number of citizens/voters, then mister pig would be even more gentle and reasonable to them, and the grinning stooges of fascism (the newsmedia) would be exposed as rightwing fraudsters for supporting the status quo! I betcha there are millions of unrepresented 'activists' who would love to help anyway possible! A good idea also would be to CHARGE a registry fee, say $10, in order to stop mister pig from exploiting the hole in this particular donut ( re false names, black bloc agents etc)....If someone could contact the Occupy movement and suggest making proxy representation using internet and a simple bank acc't (?)....the pig thinks he can kill the movement, and he can/will unless we use trickery that the bastards can't get around....
Wed, 2011-11-23 23:25
#54
I think your sponsorship/proxy protester idea is a very interesting one clandestiny. And unlike the ndp they won't vote to bomb Libya without your consent either...
Thu, 2011-11-24 13:57
#55
[I]If someone could contact the Occupy movement and suggest making proxy representation...
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Anyone - ie, you clandestiny, can contact Occupy Toronto through their facebook page or website. They have a credit union acct. You can simply contribute and then send them an email with your proxy vote. I wouldn't suggest putting your street address or even phone number on anything that might be public though, as there are right wing crazies out there who might harass you or worse.
Sat, 2011-11-26 15:31
#56
Nothing would be public. If ANYTHING i consider, when looking at planet earth, it's the reactionarkies and their sneaky conman tricks used to 'steal candy from the baby' (an electorate is a baby, in that it's very foolish and prone to extremes of emotions, iow an electorate quickly devolves into a brutish mob...that was part of why both Aristotle and Plato, the founding fathers of western political discourse, dismissed everyman democracy as unworkable and a pipedream) who fascinate in that they are, almost to a man, or woman, ignorant crybaby thugs with sissified personalities and vicious morals who rewrite everything after their predestined historical failures becomes obvious, and get away with it thanks to control of pigmedia. A classic example of this is the rightwing sympathy/aiding for fascism leading up to, causing, WW2, and how after war 'West' berlin was located 300 miles inside EAST GERMANY, and no one noticed USSR gave 2/3rd Berlin to west out of goodwill! and soon..) I will send a suggestion to 'Occupy' but ...the idea itself arises from the fact working 5 days week and only using internet week-ends limits any my effectiveness regards activism, and to be honest i don't care anymore about anything but effective activism...i did give cash at the 'logistics' tent, twice, and will glady give more, but, again, i'm nobody and if anything depend upon me, then it's a lost cause....
Sun, 2011-11-27 13:39
#57
A classic example of this is the rightwing sympathy/aiding for fascism leading up to, causing, WW2, and how after war 'West' berlin was located 300 miles inside EAST GERMANY, and no one noticed USSR gave 2/3rd Berlin to west out of goodwill! and soon..)
It wasn't goodwill at all. Do you remember the blockade and the airlift? They did everything they could do short of invasion to bring that city under soviet control.
And that territory was not theirs to give in the first place. The allied powers agreed to separate regions of occupation in Germany and Austria, and in the two capitals, Berlin and Vienna.
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Actually that situation is still not engraved in stone. I remember when Helmut Kohl was chancellor there was a big stink about him not giving absolute recognition to the Oder-Neisse border between Germany and its former territories which are now part of Poland.
Mon, 2011-11-28 18:28
#58
Toronto the Good: Killing Us Softly - by David Ker Thompson
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/25/killing-us-softly/
"...the financial centers of Toronto still profit from the vast filth of the tar sands to the west, the whole tawdry financial structure is in cahoots with the nation's biggest trading partner to the south. The nation's still an eager-beaver bumboy to the sad cluster fuck that is American military aspiration, and on and on.
Too many reasons to resist, occupy and just say no.
But Occupy Toronto was goodcop'd out of St James Park while 98% of the populace sat and watched, unwilling to lift a hand in their own interests..."
Mon, 2011-12-05 13:08
#59
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It wasn't goodwill at all. Do you remember the blockade and the airlift? They did everything they could do short of invasion to bring that city under soviet control.
And that territory was not theirs to give in the first place. The allied powers agreed to separate regions of occupation in Germany and Austria, and in the two capitals, Berlin and Vienna.
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Actually that situation is still not engraved in stone. I remember when Helmut Kohl was chancellor there was a big stink about him not giving absolute recognition to the Oder-Neisse border between Germany and its former territories which are now part of Poland.
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by April 1945 the Red Army was way past Berlin, 300 miles past, and Berlin was totally under Soviet control. Indeed, the Dresden bombing (featured in Vonnegut's 'Slaughterhouse 5') occurred AFTER Soviet troops were already gone by- the city had no military value and its destruction, also see hiroshima/nagasaki - was a blatant effort by brit/amer fascists to frighten Soviets; which was successful in that the Soviets were unable to disband their vast military and rebuild their shattered country, with its 25 million dead. Some day, hopefully, the crazy human race wakes up to how ruthlessly and easy deftly it was defrauded on a massive scale leading to its own extinction; which will be, obvious to all within 100 years and a moot detail involving nothing in 500 years (though mister pig will decamp for space satelites, probably. The planet earth will die, and the cause is the neverending ability of rightwing fascism and its loudmouth pigmedia to lie about everything that mattered until too late to correct the misunderstandings. The Soviet Union was the revolution, the 'occupy wall street' of its day, only it was also a superpower, thanks to Joseph Stalin, who, despite his flaws, kept the revolution on track despite the vast energy spent demonising both him and USSR and the revolution... for example, fyi, william shirer blamed nazism on german race characteristics rather then on fascism. in his 'rise/fall 3rd reich'.....the 'berlin wall' was built in 1961, during JFK time, only 2 years before JFK killed by fascists...the USSR fell 20 years ago, and the true nature of fascism has since emerged in the 'democracies'. In britain a rightwing loudmouth recently called for mass murder of national strikers.... and the 'george dubia bush' institute ...louis freeh, karl rove... harper govmint ...arab spring started with overthrow of saddam... etc, ad nazism
Tue, 2011-12-27 10:21
#60
Hey remember Occupy Toronto. Whatever happened to that I wonder?
Tue, 2011-12-27 10:30
#61
Occupy Toronto - Bridge the Divide action
The Deets:
Sunday January 1, 2011
12:00 p.m. - 1:30 p.m.
Toronto bus will leave Toronto from City Hall at 9:00 a.m. and return from Niagara at about 3:00 p.m.
Niagara Falls
http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/krystalline-kraus/2011/12/activist-commu...
Thu, 2011-12-29 04:29
#62
But Occupy Toronto was goodcop'd out of St James Park while 98% of the populace sat and watched, unwilling to lift a hand in their own interests..."
I don't think that all that many people perceived the Toronto occupation as being in their own interests. That's probably true even for people who paid attention at all. I had the perception that the occupation had become less about activism and more about creating an alternative community. That's a defeatist strategy and one which historically hasn't proven very effective.
Thu, 2012-01-05 07:35
#63
Activist Communiqué: Occupy Toronto - Regrouping Weekend
Occupy Toronto - Regrouping Weekend
The Deets:
Friday January 6 - Sunday January 8, 2011
Steelworker's Hall
25 Cecil Street
Toronto, ON
The Call Out and Schedule:
Retreat, Regroup, Reoccupy!
A weekend of reflection, coordination, structuring and regrouping for activists involved in Occupy Toronto committees.
http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/krystalline-kraus/2012/01/activist-commu...
Fri, 2012-02-17 02:06
#64
Occupy Toronto and Steelworker Flash Mob: BMO Help End Infinity Rubber Strike
The United Steelworkers (USW) and Occupy Toronto join forces to highlight the Bank of Montreal's role in prolonging one of the longest strikes in Toronto history.
The flash mob of dozens of demonstrators, including more than 25 Occupy Toronto dancers and singers, showed up at the main Bank of Montreal branch at King and Bay to challenge BMO to help end the 27-month strike at Infinity Rubber.
In a choreographed song and dance number set to the tune of "Moves Like Jagger" by Maroon 5, the group urged onlookers inside the branch, and later on the street, to "Move from BMO" because of the bank's role in funding an attack on workers.
Mon, 2012-04-02 14:01
#65
Occupy Toronto: Blockade in Response to Police Violence
video
Last Friday, Occupy Toronto was brutally evicted from their new encampment at Osgoode Hall at the Provincial Court buildings near City Hall. After holding their new home for four days, Toronto police moved in. Five Occupiers have been arrested and two required hospitalization after the unnecessary violent police attack. One person was arrested while delivering an explanation of the rights of protesters, and two more were arrested while filming. One woman was thrown to the ground and punched in the face by police in an incident being investigated for excessive force.
Yesterday, Occupy Toronto erected a blockade on Dundas Street in front of 52 Division for over eight hours beginning around 5:45pm. Today, they will continue. The blockaders are making four demands:
- Unconditional Release of three Occupiers still being held in Toronto Jails.
- All charges dropped against all those arrested on Friday.
- A Public Inquiry into Toronto Police Violence on Friday.
- The officers involved must be tried in civilian court.
Ways you can help:
- Come on down and join the blockade!
- Bring food and warm blankets, toques, gloves, drinks, & chairs, couches, tents, furniture, etc.
- Spread the word to your friends and via social media.
- Be creative! Police violence in Toronto has to end now!
UPDATE 1: What to Bring
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Wed, 2012-05-02 13:51
#66
Fri, 2013-07-19 13:24
#67
Pacifism and the Coma of Occupy
http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=2013071801383698
"Watching the heart-wrenching scenes of resistance, repression and mass rebellions in both Turkey and Brazil this month is a bittersweet, and in some ways shameful experience.
For an American [or Canadian], it can only bring to mind the Occupy Movement of two years ago - the movement that was torn away from us, and that failed to muster any similar courage to defend.
In Turkey, a comfortable and industrialized country like our own, the protesters' winning efforts have ranged from sit-ins, to street-fighting, to blissfully daring tactics like commandeering mechanical diggers to overpower police vehicles.
This is the epitome of a diversity of tactics that goes beyond dogmatic nonviolence..."
Sat, 2013-07-20 04:08
#68
TRN: Chris Hedges: 'America is a Tinderbox' (and vid)
"...We have to begin to make the power elite terrified of us. And Occupy did that, by the way. They were terrified of Occupy. And they had to destroy it. And let's not forget who destroyed it. It was Barack Obama..."
not Occupy Toronto obviously...
Sat, 2013-07-20 14:49
#69
For an American [or Canadian], it can only bring to mind the Occupy Movement of two years ago - the movement that was torn away from us, and that failed to muster any similar courage to defend.
I don't think the movement was "torn away from us" at Occupy Vancouver--I think the movement failed to find unity and therefore sputtered.
This is the epitome of a diversity of tactics that goes beyond dogmatic nonviolence..."
Perhaps this was successful in Turkey. In my experience, numbers at Occupy Vancouver dwindled once it became challenging to renew the commitment to non-violence.