U.S. Presidential Race

116 posts / 0 new
Last post
M. Spector M. Spector's picture

A lot of liberals were taken in by the guy whose [url=http://users.stlcc.edu/rkalfus/PDFs/026.pdf]program[/url] called for total confiscation of all war profits, the nationalization of all corporate enterprises, profit-sharing in large enterprises,and the large-scale development of old-age pension schemes.

Still, at least he was honest, and he was saying a lot of important things. It was "a very good thing that he [was] in the race".

knownothing knownothing's picture

Yeah, yeah, Hitler wanted to take over the world, Paul wants to retreat from the world, big difference

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/10581-poll-gop-voter...

That is what I call progress

josh

Honesty is all well and good.  But I'd rather have a dishonest campaign that led to good policies than an honest one that led to bad policies.

In any event, very, very few progressives are supporting Paul.  Nearly all, while appreciative of many of his views on civil liberties and foreign policy, know that his view on the political economy are off the wall. 

ygtbk

M. Spector wrote:

A lot of liberals were taken in by the guy whose [url=http://users.stlcc.edu/rkalfus/PDFs/026.pdf]program[/url] called for total confiscation of all war profits, the nationalization of all corporate enterprises, profit-sharing in large enterprises,and the large-scale development of old-age pension schemes.

Still, at least he was honest, and he was saying a lot of important things. It was "a very good thing that he [was] in the race".

Not everyone you dislike is Hitler. Also, Godwin's Law.

josh

knownothing wrote:

Yeah, yeah, Hitler wanted to take over the world, Paul wants to retreat from the world, big difference

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/10581-poll-gop-voter...

That is what I call progress

Well, Paul did make the statement that he wanted to be able to say, "We are all Austrians now."

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

I didn't say Ron Paul is Hitler. The comparison I was making was between the liberal doofuses who praise Ron Paul because he says a couple of things they think they agree with, and the liberal doofuses from 90 years ago who had the same attitude towards the National Socialist German Workers Party.

knownothing knownothing's picture

Why wouldn't you praise someone who says something you agree with?

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

wage zombie wrote:

Yeah that's not going to happen, unfortunately.

And I could have said that when you wished for a debate between Obomba and Ron Paul.

At least my unlikely wishes make political sense. ETA: Let me rephrase that:

At least when I make wishes they are for something better, not something worse.

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

What's that whooshing sound?

NDPP

Silber is right. Paul hasn't a chance. Liberals will again be taken in by Obama.

ygtbk

M. Spector wrote:

I didn't say Ron Paul is Hitler. The comparison I was making was between the liberal doofuses who praise Ron Paul because he says a couple of things they think they agree with, and the liberal doofuses from 90 years ago who had the same attitude towards the National Socialist German Workers Party.

Got it. You weren't analogizing Ron Paul to Hitler, you were analogizing him to the NSDAP. I can't imagine how I got confused.

josh

NDPP wrote:

Liberals will again be taken in by Obama.

 

No, not taken in.  Fully aware not to expect much of anything from Obama, but using him to block a Republican congress from dismantling every federal social program, and every federal regulatory agency, in sight. 

6079_Smith_W

NDPP wrote:

Silber is right. Paul hasn't a chance. Liberals will again be taken in by Obama.

Again, is the fact that Obama is not the president of our dreams any reason why we should not take a critical look at Ron Paul and the complete range of his policies?

After all, how independent can he be if he is running for the nomination of the Republican Party? 

And for the sake of argument, even if he were, would you really want to make him the most powerful person in the world based on that, plus a bit of isolationism (which has always been the fallback position for the U.S.)?

 

NDPP

As between syphillis and gonorrhea I choose none of the above. Obama is an actually existing dangerous and  malevolent global catastrophe. Paul is a distraction not an alternative to that. As between syphilis and gonorrhea I choose none of the above. I don't vote. But a plague upon all their houses...

MegB

Too long.

Pages

Topic locked