Toews a Twitter

Boom Boom wrote:

Saw Toews on QP yesterday. He clearly looks flustered and tired. I think he regrets some of the things he's been saying.

To whom? The media, or his wife?

https://twitter.com/#!/vikileaks30

Could we drop a "ter" and rename this thread to "Toews a Twit"?

I do hope that the person behind vikileaks30 is NOT an NDP staffer or MP.  I get the fun we have all had at the Honourable Blowhard's over-the-top rhetoric "with us or with the child pornographers" but I though Jack had tried to instill in us a higher standard.

I would hate to think that the Tories would be able to judo-flip us on something like this when clearly they are the ones who should have to be explaining their draconian thought-police bill.

I'm probably going to need more popcorn and booze.

All the info that's been posted on the Twitter feed is publically accessible information. Nobody hacked his records or violated his privacy. I say keep it up. If a guy wants to run on "traditional family values" and supports "traditional marriage" while carrying on an affair and fathering a love child with his mistress and run as a "fiscal conservative" while spending hundreds of taxpayers dollars at high-end restaurants, his hypocrisy deserves to be exposed.

Steve_Shutt wrote:

I do hope that the person behind vikileaks30 is NOT an NDP staffer or MP.  I get the fun we have all had at the Honourable Blowhard's over-the-top rhetoric "with us or with the child pornographers" but I though Jack had tried to instill in us a higher standard.

I would hate to think that the Tories would be able to judo-flip us on something like this when clearly they are the ones who should have to be explaining their draconian thought-police bill.

I agree.  It has the potential to become an unfortunate distraction from the actual issue.

existing thread on background

On March 4, 2010, sex columnist Dan Savage wrote:

Canada’s unofficial “Minister of Family Values”, member of parliament Toews—surprise!—doesn’t like the gays because we’re a threat to the family and the institution of marriage....

It turned out that Toews—who once warned that gay marriage could lead to polygamy—was cheating on his wife of 25 years. After getting a much younger woman pregnant, Toews wound up getting divorced. Another marriage destroyed not by gays stomping around in fabulous jackboots, but by another straight “Christian” shitfuck politician slamming his dick into someone who isn’t his wife.

Toews’s affair became public two years ago, but the scandal didn’t destroy him—he became minister of public safety this January—because the Canadian press sniffed that Toews’s affair and divorce were private.

Excuse me, Canadian-press pansies, but a politician who scares up votes attacking the private lives of others, a politician who insists that other people are out to destroy his marriage, can’t be allowed to hide behind “my private business!” when it turns out that the only threat to the politician’s marriage was the politician’s own greasy cock.

[url=http://www.straight.com/article-610386/vancouver/nobody-should-lose-thei... should lose their job for telling Canadians the truth about Vic Toews[/url]

Charlie Smith wrote:

"It's not journalists' job to keep politicians' secrets."

So tweeted my colleague, Stephen Hui, in response to the ongoing tempest over the 2008 divorce of Public Safety Minister Vic Toews.

Hui appears to be a rarity in the Canadian media. Apparently, the divorce was widely known in the Ottawa press gallery, but it wasn't deemed newsworthy by most of them, even though Toews allegedy fathered a child out of wedlock.

When Pierre Trudeau became a dad out of wedlock, it was reported across the country. But when that paragon of family values, Toews, allegedly did the same thing when he was in Stephen Harper's cabinet, it was suddenly a nonstory in the mainstream media.

Sooner or later, we're going to find out who created the @Vikileads30 Twitter account, which claimed to release the affidavits from the now-famous divorce involving Harper's senior cabinet minister from Manitoba.

The Ottawa Citizen has already revealed that the posts on the account came from a House of Commons computer.

I expect that some opposition-party caucus staffer or researcher will fess up, possibly lose his or her job, and the Conservatives will play this up as an awful breach of ethics.

[b]And the media cheerleaders, who value protecting politicians' privacy above telling the public about rank hypocrisy, will pile on with more criticism.[/b]

From my vantage point, it appears that all the Vikileaks revelations [b]came entirely from the public record[/b].

Toews and his ex-wife chose to slug it out in the courts, which are financed by taxpayers. Anytime anyone ventures into the courts, which are public venues, they should be prepared to have their affidavits publicized. Nobody should know this better than Toews, given his position in the government.

As for the other Vikileaks tweets, they appear to be entirely focused on how Toews spent tax dollars.

Mr Tea wrote:

spending hundreds of taxpayers dollars at high-end restaurants,

Last time I checked, Eggspectation wasn't a high end restaurant. How he spent $500 there is beyond me.

Comments are pouring in ...

Tories accuse NDP of ‘dirty, sleazy’ Twitter attack on e-snooping champion

Unionist wrote:

 He may have sponsored a reception for all his gfs and kids born in a headlock?

I'm sure there's a logical explanation.

Dude, those restaurants aren't that big. Plus, those babies scream loudly.

Actually, all we need is a law enabling the autorities to identify the #vikileaks30 tweeter without having to go through messy and lengthy court procedures.

How's a man to defend his reputation when anonymous people are publishing the truth about him anyways????

Mr.Tea wrote:

All the info that's been posted on the Twitter feed is publically accessible information. Nobody hacked his records or violated his privacy.

I think this is an important point to highlight. Anyways, what's that expression again for people who demand investigations into "slander" against them and only end up having this information spread ten times as far? Is it the Streisand Effect or is that slightly different?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

I was reading the Vic Toews stuff on Twitter...and this was the comment of 
one of the posters...pretty funny..
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I want someone to introduce a bill called the 'Protecting Babysitters from 
Conservative Predators Act' ..... 

I was checking out the Globe comments section on this story, and some of them are pretty funny.

As much as I dislike this fool, its still harassment.

Although this does seem like karma....

Everybody seems to be getting nicely sucked into the Conservative strategy; focus on the identity of the so-called "leaker", so that he or she can be made into the bad guy.

In reality, there was no leak, except insofar as an informal press embargo on the Toews divorce had effectively squelched the story that was widely known among the sycophantic press gallery on the Hill. We should be demanding to know why this wasn't reported by the media years ago, instead of being left to be disseminated through twitter.

There are times when a politician's personal life is relevant and is the public's business.  This is one area where the American press is better than the Canadian press.

The Canadian press seems to have forgotten that when a conservative politician campaigns on a platform of family values and the sanctity of marriage, they deserve to be called out if they do not practice what they have been trying to legislate.  In 2005, Vic Towes was one of the biggest opponents of gay marriage on the House of Commons committee.  He went on and on for months about how gays would threaten the sanctity of marriage, and then he turns around and cheats on his wife and fathers a child with the woman he was cheating with.  Absolute and utter hypocrite and piece of garbage.

He is just like Newt Gingrich.

Apparently Toews has pissed off Anonymous...

And I agree with everyone else.  Even if they manage to pinpoint the person behind the vikileaks account, who cares?  They haven't broadcast anything except public information. 

I'm not a big fan of American-style reporting on personal lives of politicians.  I don't give a damn about people's marriages, I don't care if they're "cheating", and I think relationships are complicated things and people don't always make the best decisions, and often marriages end before the divorce happens, and all that stuff.  And I don't support societally enforced monogamy.  So in most cases, I DON'T want to hear about the private lives of politicians because I don't care, it's not relevant, and I don't want to know.

But Toew's political stands on "family values", his public stands in favour of "traditional marriage", his accusations that people who don't support this bill stand with the child pornographers, and his willingness to invade everyone else's privacy makes this protest legitimate.  This Twitter protest is a brilliant political strategy, and if it WAS someone in the NDP, then good on them!

radiorahim read me a hilarious tweet he saw a couple of days ago by someone telling Vic that he was trying to decide whether to pay the babysitter pre- or post-coitus, then asking Vic what he would do.  Ouch! 

If you type this into the Twitter search engine:

tellviceverything babysitter

You'll find at least 15 minutes of unwholesome entertainment!

It's too bad that the vikileaks account was taken down, but it did its job.

I agree with Heather Mallick. The real surprise in all of this is the revelation that there actually at least three women in the world who found a repulsive man like Toews attractive enough to want to have sex with him. Yeccchhhhh!

How old was this baby sitter that Toews got pregnant?

And I have never heard of Dan Savage before but I think he is my new favourite person. I just loved this:

"Excuse me, Canadian-press pansies, but a politician who scares up votes attacking the private lives of others, a politician who insists that other people are out to destroy his marriage, can't be allowed to hide behind "my private business!" when it turns out that the only threat to the politician's marriage was the politician's own greasy cock."

Dan Savage is a long-time gay rights activist.  He appears on both Canadian and American t.v.  He and his partner got married in Canada and they live in Washington State with their son.

Toews should be thrown out of cabinet, but Harper would never do that.  Conservatives are always hypocritical scumbags when it comes to family values.  They voted against our gay marriage bill on the grounds that it threatened the sanctity of the marriage institution, and then they end up being caught degrading their own marriages.

On CTV News about 20 minutes ago, Craig Oliver said "some people say the NDP is responsible for the posts about Toews", what is this, Fox News North? He knows that IP has been used by both Lib and Tory. I hate it when this guys do that. I would have expected a little better from him. Again, someone want to tell me why CTV is better then CBC?

I could, if there was enough butter and Syrup!

Mr.Tea wrote:

You're right. When I saw the dollar totals, I assumed he was going to Hy's Steakhouse in Ottawa and dining on prime rib and fine wines. Then I saw that he was actually dropping hundreds of dollars at Winnipeg House of Pancakes. Who the hell can eat that many fucking pancakes??

That made my day!!!