Hoodeet (JW)I think DaveW is simply stating the well-known truth here, Hoodeet.
Yes, Unionist, and I did say I agreed with him, but I was reacting to the tone and attitude, which as in so many other posts seemed unreasonable, dismissive.
Massacre at Jewish School in France
Wed, 2012-03-21 20:01
#52
Wed, 2012-03-21 20:03
#53
Hoodeet (JW)They'll send this Qa'eda gunman to Guantanamo or back to Algiers for job re-training where they will prolly release him after a short while if he promises to go to Turkey-Syria or Chechnya and take up jihad full-time. And I think there's a new TV show called Al-CIA'duh's Got Talent, so his prospects look good.
That's pretty funny, Fidel. I guess the auditions are restricted?
Wed, 2012-03-21 20:14
#54
Yeah restricted to their expendable jihadi assets. Theyve been recruiting talent for that covert reality show called 'Holy Old Anticommunist Jihad' since the 80s, and it's being carried into the 99th season or so. It's big money behind a parade of stars, mercenaries, drug barons, established warlords, theocratic feudalists and more. It's a 30 year-long extravaganza.
Wed, 2012-03-21 20:21
#55
Hoodeet (JW)Yeah restricted to their expendable jihadi assets. Theyve been recruiting talent for that covert reality show called 'Holy Old Anticommunist Jihad' since the 80s, and it's being carried into the 99th season or so. It's big money behind a parade of stars, mercenaries, drug barons, established warlords, theocratic feudalists and more. It's a 30 year-long extravaganza.
Damn! Where have I been? Why haven't I figured out how to get a piece of the action... I mean the unmarked bills?
Wed, 2012-03-21 23:49
#56
Bec.De.Corbin
Well at least they have him cornered and now all he has to do is decide how this is going to end.
Thu, 2012-03-22 00:11
#57
Damn! Where have I been? Why haven't I figured out how to get a piece of the action... I mean the unmarked bills?
I think this guy must rival the Catholic Church for being a veritable BCCI cash machine with friends in high places. Fethullah Gulen brainwashes them early and produces above standard quality right wing extremists like so many uniform widgets. And later on in their careers they become disposable marionettes for Al-Qa'eda on the company's payroll. And all this would have been completely unnecessary had the Soviets not stabbed them in the back by ceding the cold war. They had to scramble to find another bogus enemy, and guess what they came up with? Yes, the invisible army of darkness is a fiction of the Gladio Gang's own creation.
Thu, 2012-03-22 00:39
#58
Bec.De.Corbin
And so, right before our very eyes, yet another hair brained conspiracy is born... is there no end to the madness? LOL
Thu, 2012-03-22 01:40
#59
Sarkozy: Killer Wanted To 'Bring France To Knees' (and vid)
http://www.euronews.com/2012/03/21/sarkozy-killer-wanted-to-bring-france...
"A solemn tribute has been paid to the three soldiers gunned down in the series of shootings in southern France.."
Thu, 2012-03-22 01:42
#60
And why do you feel the need to rise to the defence of the bipartisan war parties responsible, Bex? Is it because Sibel Edmonds is a renowned woman of repute for telling the truth? She has far more cred than the corrupt Washington stoogeaucrats she's blown the whistle on.
Thu, 2012-03-22 01:47
#61
It isn't either/or...and nobody was privileging THESE deaths.
Thank-you for injecting some sanity, Ken.
The deaths of children in one part of the world do nothing to justify the deaths of other children in another.
The condemnation of one set of killings does nothing to diminish the condemnation of another.
Thu, 2012-03-22 03:45
#62
French Police in Armed Standoff With Alleged Gunman - by Alex Lantier
http://wsws.org/articles/2012/mar2012/toul-m22.shtml
"...If these accounts are to be believed, however, a man closely watched by French intelligence and police was somehow left free to carry out a murderous rampage over 10 days in Toulouse and nearby Montauban. He was even apparently in contact with police sources in the run-up to the attack at the Ozar Hatoreh school.
Now, as the media pin the blame on Merah, the leading parties have returned to stoking up anti-Muslim racism and promoting attacks on democratic rights under the rubric of anti-terrorist safety measures. The tragedy is this being exploited to defend the place of neo-fascist and anti-immigrant politics in France and in Europe.
It is developing as a major factor in the ongoing presidential race, the first round of which takes place next month..."
Thu, 2012-03-22 04:18
#63
Anything for the dead Afghans slaughtered or the latest dead kids bombed in Gaza? Obviously some dead are more worthwhile than others.
No but we can always count on holy revenge coming from that invisible army of lefties with social consciences fighting for theocratic feudalism sometimes referred to as Al-Qa'eda whenever politically advantageous. And it's our job to fear them that are invisible and whom never existed in the first place except whenever an inside job necessitates a convenient patsy. As a result our overseers will win elections by solemn promises to protect us from invisible armies of darknes which doth not actually exist. And all that is light and sweetness is not self-evident nor written on any parchment. Ours is not to question why only to trust and obey. It is the only way. And so it was from that infamous day forward.
Thu, 2012-03-22 04:39
#64
The answer is because unlike the dead kids in France, the unmentioned ones were murdered under the auspices of 'allies' whose causes the ndp supports. The unmentionables and uncondoled are regarded at best as collateral damage and at worst as 'enemy dead'. And as we all know, we don't count those, nor do we send them condolences.
Oh fer..., Which party is the only one in Ottawa that has consistently voted against Canada's combat participation in the imperial occupation of Afghanistan? I'll give you three guesses, and the first two don't count.
Thu, 2012-03-22 07:57
#65
A police siege in the French city of Toulouse has ended with a man suspected of killing seven people now dead, the French interior minister has said.
Police had entered the flat where Mohammed Merah was holed up shortly after 09:30 GMT, after a siege that had lasted 32 hours.
Merah fired at officers and was found dead after jumping from a window.
Thu, 2012-03-22 08:02
#66
It isn't either/or...and nobody was privileging THESE deaths.
Thank-you for injecting some sanity, Ken.
The deaths of children in one part of the world do nothing to justify the deaths of other children in another.
The condemnation of one set of killings does nothing to diminish the condemnation of another.
I agree
Thu, 2012-03-22 08:29
#67
Nobody is justifying anything, except none to discreetly through the pandering omissions of the kind we've come to anticipate from our political stooges. And such obvious confusion is referred to as 'sanity?'
Thu, 2012-03-22 11:14
#68
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Thu, 2012-03-22 13:02
#69
Toulouse Gunman Shot in Head, Falls To Death in Hail of Bullets (and vid, photos)
http://www.rt.com/news/assault-police-french-suspected-181/
"Mohamed Merah - the man behind the Toulouse killing spree - is dead after a 32 hour siege ended in grenade explosions and gunfire. He jumped out of his bathroom window, an automatic pistol blazing as police broke through, and was found dead where he fell. He admitted to the killing of seven people, saying he did it to take revenge for the French foreign interventions and 'killings of Palestinian children in the Middle East."
Thu, 2012-03-22 13:53
#70
Sarkozy Opens Poll Lead After France Shootings
http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16194033
"President Nicolas Sarkozy has surged into the lead in election polls following his handling of the crisis in Toulouse...Meanwhile, far right presidential candidate Marine Le Pen, who is number three in the polls, says her anti-Islam agenda has been vindicated because the chief suspect in the country's worst killing spree in years is a French Muslim who claims ties to al Qaeda.
France, she says must 'wipe out' the Islamist threat, arguing its corrupting the French culture and has not been taken seriously enough by the authorities."
Thu, 2012-03-22 15:51
#71
Now we know who the lucky benefactors are. Again.
Thu, 2012-03-22 23:01
#72
It probably WAS about rigging the election...perhaps we could even call it "Sarko's 'Reichstag Fire'".
It will be interesting to see what kind of anti-immigrant,/vive Le Gendermarie ass-kissing Francois Hollande does, in a desperate attempt to "catch-up"
Thu, 2012-03-22 23:28
#73
The Return of Gladio And the Rebirth of Terror Under Tyrant Nicolas Sarkrazy
http://disquietreservations.blogspot.ca/2012/03/return-of-gladio-and-reb...
"Another day, another false-flag terrorist event in another advanced Western democracy. This time, the people of France are the target of Western state-sponsored terrorism and the strategy of terrorism. The patsy's name is Mohammed Merah...This is an ordinary state-run terrorist operation to increase tension, fear and hatred in Western society. This is what the fascist State does when it is free to write history on the spot and blow stuff up. It kills innocent children to make the submerged public gasp for air, hate the scapegoat, and demand security and steel nerve from the leader of the State. 'Gladio 2.0 is in motion.'..."
Thu, 2012-03-22 23:48
#74
Are you seriously suggesting this despicable atrocity was some sort of Sarkozy conspiracy? The English language (I assume the same goes for French) doesnt have adequate words to express the contempt that you deserve.
Thu, 2012-03-22 23:50
#75
Seriously, moderators, why the fuck is this bullshit allowed to be posted and why is a blatant anti-Semite allowed to continue here?
Fri, 2012-03-23 00:09
#76
Care to name this "blatant anti-Semite"? Or to provide evidence of their "blatency"?
Fri, 2012-03-23 02:38
#77
French Muslims Call For Protection Against Growing Islamophobia: Crimes Coincide With National Campaigns by Politicians..
http://muslimnews.co.uk/paper/index.php?article=5742
"Muslim leaders in France have called for stronger legislation and more government focus to tackle the surge in Islamophobic crimes in the country. Their plea came a week after a series of mosque vandalisms and an extremely controversial outburst by France's Interior Minister.
The most recent attack on a French mosque occurred in the Glonnieres district of Le Mans where the mosque walls were found covered with graffiti reading 'Islam Out of Europe,' 'No Islam' and 'France for the French' on January 31. On January 17, fascist graffiti was painted on the wall of a mosque that is under construction in Montigny en Ostrevent. The graffiti read, 'President Adolf' and 'Hei' in reference to the Nazi salute, 'Heil Hitler'.
Two days later on January 19, two pigs' heads were left at the site [where] a mosque is being built in Nanterre. One pig head was left outside the other inside. Most recently, a report released by the Paris-based Islamophobic Crime Monitoring Group indicated that the number of Islamophobic attacks in France increased by 34% in 2011 in comparison with the previous year.."
Fri, 2012-03-23 03:14
#78
Care to name this "blatant anti-Semite"? Or to provide evidence of their "blatency"?
One would assume Mr. Tea is referring to post #18 in this topic by Slumberjack, which makes reference to the imaginary state of "Zio-Land" and which Mr. Tea quoted in full at #19. I would also like to point out that I flagged this post as offensive (the reason category I used was "Other", if only because I wasn't sure that "Zio-Land" would be considered oppressive language) nearly thirty-three hours ago.
If one wants to go beyond posts in this particular topic, it would also be feasible to identify NDPP as the anti-Semite, since he has made references to "zio nukes" (itself quoted by Winston in the following post in-topic), the "zio songbook", "zio-dollars", and kissing "zio ass". None of which he was chastised for by a mod, since one would assume that a mod that chastised him for any one of those references would have either deleted that reference or made a post in the topic doing so.
(Corrected the link to the "zio songbook" comment.)
Fri, 2012-03-23 04:31
#79
I'm going to double post here (because it isn't as if the average babble topic doesn't include at least one instance of a babbler making consecutive posts consisting of the title of an article, possibly the article's author, a copy-pasted quote from the article, a link to the article and nothing else - and what I'm about to do is more substantive than that, if also more off-topic).
Also: in 2010, NDPP made a post, in the style I describe in my parenthetical above, linking to an article such that the quote pasted into the post could be paraphrased as "Israel had a hand in 9/11" and was temporarily suspended in 2011 (link goes to a Catchfire post) for continuing to use the phrase "Zio-Nazi" and its assorted variants with respect to uppercase letters and hyphenation after he was told by the moderators to cease using it.
(Edit: rephrased the lead-in to link #1.)
Fri, 2012-03-23 05:18
#80
Of course we know now that Israeli intel provided Warshington with all kinds of warnings about impending terrorist attacks. Eventually there were warnings from intel agencies around the world. And when Warshington did nothing about the warnings, the Israelis appealed to the Russians to alert Warshington as if the Russians might gain their attention, and still the neocons did nothing.
Fri, 2012-03-23 05:54
#81
I find the interruption by 'threads' and 'Mr. T" on behalf of the Zionist occupation authorities to be offensive, and an obvious scripted ploy to silence criticism of the zionist State of Israel as it exists in the West Bank, and as it continues as we speak to surround and strangle and to kill at random with impunity the people of Gaza. Here in utterly disgusting fashion they spare their only concern for three letter prefixes.
Fri, 2012-03-23 06:45
#82
Anti-Semitism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism
Zionism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
Enough is enough. I am labelled a jew hater because they don't like my materials, or anti-zionist point of view. It is not their right to make such disgusting defamatory slanders no matter how powerful they think their little club is here. I shall require apologies and retractions from both. I do not slander, silence or interfere in their activities here and I expect to be accorded the same courtesy. As for 'Zio-Nazis' this is an entirely accurate description of the Zionist JDL and the formal and public alliance with the English Defence League (EDL) Nazi-boys. Hence Zio-Nazis. How else would you say it?
Fri, 2012-03-23 06:47
#83
Gilad Atzmon, an Israeli political activist thinks it might be a false flag:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/03/22/tolouse-another-israeli-false-fl...
Fri, 2012-03-23 06:50
#84
Slumberjack, a few things:
(1) I would like to know why you used "Zio-Land" in post #18. It takes more keystrokes to type than, say, "Israel" does. Moreover, there are only about 1300 websites on the whole of the Internet which include the term "Zio-Land" (quotes included), according to Google; I include the quotes because if I do not Google for whatever reason will return any page that contains "Zio" and then later on in the page "land", as well as any page that includes the phrase "Zion land". A quick perusal of said results indicates that "Zio-Land" is most likely used as a synonym for Israel. Furthermore, some of the first results returned by Google for the term "Zio-Land" include a portmanteau differing by a single letter from "Ku Klux Klan" (it's the first letter) and references to being ruled by "ZOG". I imagine you will find similar results, either in terms of the number (for example, the songbook phrase only appears on babble) or the content of the results (the nukes phrase), if you search on Google for any of the other "zio [noun]" phrases I've previously quoted.
(2) I am not doing anything "on behalf of the Zionist occupation authorities". I am not following any sort of script as part of a ploy to "silence criticism of the zionist State of Israel". I am objecting to the use of a three-letter prefix, which seemingly adds sentiments of either Zionism or Israel, used by you in this topic which:
(a) when affixed to the noun you affixed it to, is rarely used outside of babble in non-anti-Semitic contexts;
(b) is most commonly found on babble in the phrase "Zio-Nazi", which the moderators have deemed unacceptable, and in that context most often by a babbler who once uncritically quoted text which identified Israel as the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks; and
(c) when not used in the phrase "Zio-Nazi" on babble, is typically used redundantly and/or gratuitously ("Zio nukes" is, in full, "Israel's actually existing zio nukes"; the kissing "zio ass" comment) or used provocatively when a phrasing that does not involve the prefix is perfectly usable (as I previously mentioned, you could have avoided all this by using "Israel" instead of "Zio-Land").
(Corrected "already" to "actually".)
Fri, 2012-03-23 06:58
#85
The term Zion or Zionist was adopted by some people in Europe, Zionists, who felt that Jews didn't belong in the countries they were born in. The project of Zionism as far as i know to this point involves the annexation of Palestinian territory in the West Bank and parts of Jordan and other surrounding countries. Hence Zio-Land. Land and territories coveted by Zionists.
Fri, 2012-03-23 07:08
#86
Slumberjack, some of the first Google search results for "Zio-Land" - and I repeat there are only about 1300 of them - make reference to the "Ju Klux Klan" and the "Zionist Occupation Government". In other words, some of the most trafficked pages that include the phrase "Zio-Land" - and here I reiterate that there aren't many pages that do that in the first place - include patently anti-Semitic phraseology. (And you know, some of the results for "Zio-Land" include results where zio- is not a prefix.)
Do you understand what's wrong with you using "Zio-Land" now?
Fri, 2012-03-23 07:13
#87
That doesn't make Slumberjack an antisemite, though.
Fri, 2012-03-23 07:41
#88
Do you understand what's wrong with you using "Zio-Land" now?
I understand what you're on about here. Maybe you should practice entertaining yourself in a corner someplace before trying it out in public. This routine of yours isn't very engaging I have to say.
Fri, 2012-03-23 07:58
#89
As for 'Zio-Nazis' this is an entirely accurate description of the Zionist JDL and the formal and public alliance with the English Defence League (EDL) Nazi-boys. Hence Zio-Nazis. How else would you say it?
It seems to be a pattern rooted in history, relating to the coincidence between the European Zionist view of where Jews didn't belong, and similar thought patterns as exemplified by the Thule Society and the like.
Fri, 2012-03-23 10:05
#90
Seriously, what the fuck? You have people linking in a thread about murdered Jewish children to articles by Gilad Atzmon, a notorious Jew-hater who has been denounced by even the biggest Israel-haters.
NDPP is posting scurilous bullshit that this was massacre was some sort of "false flag" operation (with zero evidence) and that this despicable killer was a "patsy" set up to take the fall. This is the same guy who after the Norway massacre posted a bullshit article speculating that the mass murder of teenagers there was actually an ISRAELI plot.
When people express their contempt, we're labelled as acting on behalf of the "zionist occupational authorities" and WE are the assholes? This thread isn't about Israel. This is about 4 people, three of them little kids, murdered in cold blood. Because they were Jews. And some assholes here want to use it as a pretext to attack Israel and label this sick, twisted, sub-human murder of children as the victim here. This discussion is an embarassment. Time for the left to grow up and purge the lunatics from its ranks.
Fri, 2012-03-23 10:34
#91
And some assholes here want to use it as a pretext to attack Israel and label this sick, twisted, sub-human murder of children as the victim here.
All the various sub-human species went extinct thousands of years ago Mr. T. But if this thread is really about focusing on the sick, twisted murder of children, limiting ourselves to one sided descriptions in that regard is suspect in my view. A little balance is what we're striving for here, to wit:
Fri, 2012-03-23 10:43
#92
Really, slumberjack? You're looking for "balance"? 4 people gunned down outside a school in cold blood? What "other side" would you like to see presented?
It's really unbelievable we can't have a thread about murdered kids without some people posting anti-Semitic filth.
Fri, 2012-03-23 10:49
#93
You have people linking in a thread about murdered Jewish children to articles by Gilad Atzmon, a notorious Jew-hater....
Doesn't he identify as...well...Jewish? And isn't the term 'self-hating' as it pertains to people who identify as Jewish, but who also deplore the oppressive actions of Israel, quite often used in the context of providing support to Israeli policies while denouncing such criticisms? Knowing the answers to such questions, and the peculiar use of the term 'Jew-hater' for a Jew who happens to object to Zionist expansionism, leads us some way toward understanding why you started this thread in the first instance. I contend that you are not interested in the murder of children at all, but were resolved to use the murder of children in this example to further a reprehensible political agenda. I further contend that 'thread-bare' is now along for the ride.
Fri, 2012-03-23 10:52
#94
This is Atzmon. I John Lewis writes that Atzmon's anti-Jewish rhetoric has created many foes for Atzmon,[4] even among people once associates. Some Palestinian activists see his statements as discrediting their cause,[74] while the British Socialist Workers Party, which at one time regularly invited him to their annual Marxism event, now distances itself from Atzmon.[4]
Several of Atzmon's statements regarding Jews and Judaism have led to allegations of antisemitism. In 2004 the Board of Deputies of British Jews criticized Atzmon for saying, "I'm not going to say whether it is right or not to burn down a synagogue, I can see that it is a rational act."[75] Atzmon responded in a letter to The Observer that "since Israel presents itself as the 'state of the Jewish people' ... any form of anti-Jewish activity may be seen as political retaliation. This does not make it right."[76]
In a 2005 opinion piece David Aaronovitch criticized Atzmon for writing in his essay "On Anti-Semitism"[77] that "We must begin to take the accusation that the Jewish people are trying to control the world very seriously." and "American Jewry makes any debate on whether the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion' are an authentic document or rather a forged irrelevant. American Jews do control the world, by proxy. So far they are doing pretty well for themselves at least"; Aaronovitch said Atzmon was "a silly boy advancing slightly dangerous arguments."[78] Aaronovitch also criticized Atzmon for circulating an essay by Paul Eisen defending Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel and supporting many aspects of Zündel's Holocaust denial theories.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Atzmon
Fri, 2012-03-23 10:55
#95
I contend that you are not interested in the murder of children at all, but were resolved to use the murder of children in this example to further a reprehensible political agenda.
You know what? Fuck you. I'm a father. I have two little kids, one of whom I dropped off at a Jewish school this morning. Just like a father did in Toulouse last week. Don't tell me I don't care about Jewish children being murdered outside of their school.
If that's your what you "contend", I may very well have to infer that you take some sort of pleasure in seeing these dead kids.
Fri, 2012-03-23 11:12
#96
I've seen dead kids. It ain't no pleasure in any circumstance, and I was the first to describe the situation outlined in this thread as terrible.
Fri, 2012-03-23 11:19
#97
Gilad Atzmon, an Israeli political activist thinks it might be a false flag:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/03/22/tolouse-another-israeli-false-fl...
Gilad Atzmon is an anti-semitic propagandist. The fact that he claims to be Jewish, and that he quite properly condemns Zionism, doesn't rescue his filthy characterizations of the Jewish people. I don't know if he needs therapy or a long time-out somewhere, but I wouldn't advise anyone to believe a single thing this bizarrely confused person writes. Just one Jew's opinion.
Fri, 2012-03-23 11:34
#98
Also, while he was born in Israel, I'm not sure Atzmon self-identifies as Israeli, for whatever that's worth.
Fri, 2012-03-23 11:41
#99
Anti-Semitism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism
Zionism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
Enough is enough. I am labelled a jew hater because they don't like my materials, or anti-zionist point of view. It is not their right to make such disgusting defamatory slanders no matter how powerful they think their little club is here. I shall require apologies and retractions from both. I do not slander, silence or interfere in their activities here and I expect to be accorded the same courtesy. As for 'Zio-Nazis' this is an entirely accurate description of the Zionist JDL and the formal and public alliance with the English Defence League (EDL) Nazi-boys. Hence Zio-Nazis. How else would you say it?
NDPP, you have had the offensive nature of the term "Zio-Nazis" explained to you repeatedly. You have been warned numerous times to stop using the term. Clearly, you have no respect for this board and its guidelines, or for the people you insult and offend here. You are suspended pending consultation with the moderation team.
ETA: This discussion is degenerating rapidly. Besides, it is pretty much at its posting limit. Closing.