Tom Mulcair will be PM #5

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Michelle

Winston wrote:

Don`t you find those tactics crass and patronizing?  Sure, I have seem them used, but I cringed every time.

Yes, actually, I do find those tactics crass and patronizing, and it's too bad that that might be the only way to get a good shot of a broad cross-section of the population in NDP publicity photos. 

I think arguments can be made on both sides of such an issue.  For instance, think of the business section (or any section, really) of your local paper.  How many racialized people do you see in that section?  Newspapers for years have been making the excuse that the reason there are so few stories featuring racialized people, or columnists or reporters who are racialized, is because there are so few racialized people who become big players in the financial industry.

However, this perception that racialized people aren't in finance (along with the unspoken and perhaps subconscious belief that they don't want to be in it and don't really belong in it) becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy when the only thing the general public sees in their media are white people in finance and business.

Should the NDP strive to ensure that their publicity shots include more racialized people in them when their candid shots show that there really isn't much attention paid to ensuring that racialized people are included on the stage at a leadership rally?  Would it be just patronizing tokenism to portray the inclusion that isn't actually happening on the ground all that often?  Or would it be an attempt to encourage and welcome racialized people to the party, and to normalize the idea and the image of the party as one where everyone is represented?

I don't know the answer to that question.  I'm sure there are arguments on both sides.  But I don't think it's just the luck of the draw that there were no racialized candidates in the leadership race, and that the one Aboriginal candidate ended up dropping out early because it became clear by lack of funding and support that he would be unable to win.  And whether that picture on the splash page simply reflects this lack of inclusion in the party, or contributes to it by normalizing such a lack of inclusion by proudly displaying it in publicity shots, the outcome is still that racialized people still aren't running for top leadership positions in the party.  And they probably don't end up as candidates in winnable or relatively safe ridings very often either.

Would a deliberate photo shoot with a good mix of people in it change things?  I don't know.  Tokenism doesn't work if that's all you do.  But pictures of a sea of white, mostly male supporters on the splash page probably doesn't help either.

NorthReport

Why don't we put this stuff in a provincial thread where it belongs.

KenS

I missed this story yesterday. Good to see that our NS government's doings are transparent to at least some journalists. Most of them are falling all over Dexter and Co.

Brutal Education Cuts Stock Up the Jobs Buying Election Buying Fund

Read the whole column. But here's one gem:

We know the arguments that are routinely used to defend government grants to NewPage Port Hawkesbury, Michelin, the owners of Bowater Mersey and so on. We heard them again the other day when the government announced $304 million in financing for Irving Shipbuilding, most of which will be a straight grant if certain conditions are met.

What we never hear from government at budget time, or election time, is the cost of taking money from other productive social uses - in this case, education - and handing it to companies like Irving Shipbuilding that don't need our money at all.

Not only did I miss this story, but she caught a 'little' line item in the budget of $70 million- the education cuts were $60 million. A vastly expanded sluch fund to dole out money from now to the election.

Thats on top of the Irving money, etc.

Like I said, phoney and sick industrial strategy- buying expensive jobs with money from cutting servises and the jobs of workers, many of whom will feel compelled to leave Nova Scotia.

And if you havent seen it already and want to get more into this cautionary tale for Canada's NDP- this thread.

KenS

You wouldnt care about tidyness. Its burial you want.

There's a new cheerleading thread, and this one is nearing the end of its life, so what's to worry?

But the answer to your question is that its relevant to the national NDP as a very fresh cautionary tale bearing on choices about direction that Cananda's NDP now faces. If you dont think its relevant, dont read it.

NorthReport

So the leadership campaign didn't turn out the way you professed it would, day after day, week after week, month after month. But it is now time to get over it.  

KenS

Sad you think this is about the leadership campaign. But then you've always been a 'with or against us' guy.

And for the record, I didnt strictly speaking profess how the leadership campaign would turn out. But I was possibly the first to call Mulcair the front runner, and started saying a long way back that it was his to lose.

Further for the record, I want Mulcair to do well. I'm glad the first part is going quite well, as unchallenging as that may be. If he doesnt do well, what WE make of it is pretty much moot.

But that isnt all of it.

howeird beale

Yeah, I wrestle with this too, Winston and Michelle.

I'm reminded of GOP conventions in the states, where there tends to be a lineup of reporters waiting to interview the few attendees who aren't fat old white guys.

But would it be tokenism to, say, have a photo taken with Anne Minh thu Quach, Hoang Mai, Paulina Ayala, Tyrone Benskin, Jose Nunes-Melo, Manon Perreault, Romeo Saganash, Laurin Liu, Djaouida Sellah, Tarik Brahmi, Sadia Groguhé, Sana Hassainia, Rathika Sitsabaiesan, Olivia Chow, Jinny Jogendera Sims, and Jasbir Sandhu?

If only one could find a photo-op with this diverse roster of NDP leaders, say, if they were all sitting in the same place togetherLaughing

Winston

Tom just rocked TLMEP.  The crowd seemed as energized and sympathetic as they were for Jack.

Brachina

KenS wrote:

I missed this story yesterday. Good to see that our NS government's doings are transparent to at least some journalists. Most of them are falling all over Dexter and Co.

Brutal Education Cuts Stock Up the Jobs Buying Election Buying Fund

Read the whole column. But here's one gem:

We know the arguments that are routinely used to defend government grants to NewPage Port Hawkesbury, Michelin, the owners of Bowater Mersey and so on. We heard them again the other day when the government announced $304 million in financing for Irving Shipbuilding, most of which will be a straight grant if certain conditions are met.

What we never hear from government at budget time, or election time, is the cost of taking money from other productive social uses - in this case, education - and handing it to companies like Irving Shipbuilding that don't need our money at all.

Not only did I miss this story, but she caught a 'little' line item in the budget of $70 million- the education cuts were $60 million. A vastly expanded sluch fund to dole out money from now to the election.

Thats on top of the Irving money, etc.

Like I said, phoney and sick industrial strategy- buying expensive jobs with money from cutting servises and the jobs of workers, many of whom will feel compelled to leave Nova Scotia.

And if you havent seen it already and want to get more into this cautionary tale for Canada's NDP- this thread.

You and your wife have my condolences. Dexter's actions are inexcusable and I hope that party members in NS make it clear that attacking education and healthcare is inexcusable.

Away I don't think Mulcair is so inclined, his speech shows that and his attack on Harper for using a rusty machete instead of a scapel tells me that Mulcair wouldn't care for Dexter's sloppy approach to healthcare and education either.

American Leftis...

NDPP wrote:

Tony Blair's 'New Labour' Offers Blueprint for Thomas Mulcair

http://www.thestar.com/ipinion/editorialopinion/article/1157615--tony-bl...

"Can Thomas Mulcair be the NDP's Tony Blair...?"

Oh, the corporate media sure wishes he were.  

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