Thomas Mulcair - Thread #7

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takeitslowly

i think all the provinice should break up with one another; at this rate, our society is experiencing a complete break down where everyone is out for their own short tem interest.

Now get out your phone and tweet and text some more for unity...

Hunky_Monkey

Stockholm wrote:

I don't see what the problem is with Mulcair's position. Step 1 - immediately ditch all the Tory mandatory minimum sentences for possession of small quantities of cannabis, Step 2 - have a commission report on a comprehensive policy approach on ALL currently illegal drugs - many of which i think should stay illegal (ie: heroin, crystal meth etc...) and some others should be decriiminalized.

Its not as if it was EVER NDP policy in the first place that if we won power - within the first 100 days people would start being able to buy pot at their nearest convenience story...the current policy is very vague and more of a statement of principles than anything else. If NDP members didn't think Mulcair went far enough in supporting instant legalization of drugs - they were free to elect someone else as leader. We elected Mulcair and he now has our mandate to develop actionable drug policies

I think that its also a very positive sign that Mulcair has appointed Francoise Boivin as Justice critic and Craig Scott as her deputy critic. They are both people with very socially liberal views on justice issues.

We have been down this road before, everytime the NDP takes a position that falls short of instant legalization of absolutely all drugs - we hear these Cassandras warning that 100% of young people will drop the NDP like a hot potato (of course this also smacks of this ageist stereotype that all young people only care about being able to do drugs). We were warned that when the NDP made it clear that Dana Larsen was "persona non grata" at the Halifax convention in 2009 - the NDP would pay some huge price. We paid a price all right - 103 seats and more support among younger age cohorts than ever before.!

I saw that pot use among young people is way down from a few years ago. Interesting.

The LeDain Commission was 40 years ago. Mulcair wants to UPDATE it for the 21st century and look at ALL recreational drugs. Makes sense to do it right than to do it rushed.

Jacob Two-Two

No it doesn't. There's no doubt at all about pot being harmless, especially relative to a host of other legal drugs. Aspirin is much more dangerous. Anyone who intended to do this would just do it. Mulcair's just stalling because he doesn't want to muddy his waters with a volatile issue like this. Like electoral reform, this is the kind of thing that will never get off the ground without a lot of public pressure.

JeffWells

Stockholm wrote:

We have been down this road before, everytime the NDP takes a position that falls short of instant legalization of absolutely all drugs - we hear these Cassandras warning that 100% of young people will drop the NDP like a hot potato (of course this also smacks of this ageist stereotype that all young people only care about being able to do drugs). We were warned that when the NDP made it clear that Dana Larsen was "persona non grata" at the Halifax convention in 2009 - the NDP would pay some huge price. We paid a price all right - 103 seats and more support among younger age cohorts than ever before.!

But we haven't been on the road to government before. I think Mulcair and the party need to be very careful about bait and switch messaging that could come with the huge price of alienating our already disinclined to vote supporters.

As well, it's infuriating to watch the Liberals potentially benefit by our misstep on this given their 40-years of foot dragging. I hope the lesson is learned, because Mulcair needs to protect his left flank as he projects the capital-calming image of "reliable manager."

KenS

And as a reminder of where that "relaible manager" narrative can lead you in steps alond the road: NS NDP Chooses Austerity Management as its Agenda

KenS

...and further in that same vein...

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When its all over "we" will presided over the cutting of social spending to fit playing along with cutting government revenues.

And do that when we had the political capital, and the choice, to do the much easier job of cutting social spending to fit levelled government revenues.

 

MegB

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