Ontario budget , 2012 - thread #3

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Tue, 2012-04-24 10:09

Freedom 55

Fidel wrote:

Meanwhile have labour groups said they would kick-in for round two seven months later? I don't know that they have. Does anyone?

http://rabble.ca/babble/ontario/ondp-convention-next-weekend-hamilton

M. Spector wrote:

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Sid Ryan, the fiery president of the Ontario Federation of Labour, who is pushing for the NDP to demand more concessions from Premier Dalton McGuinty, says [b]the OFL is ready to be a guarantor for some of the estimated $4 million or so the NDP would need to run a month-long campaign.[/b]

[b]The Ontario Public Service Employees Union (OPSEU) has also been mentioned as a co-signer of a bank loan.[/b]

Just as I said when the budget first came out, there are thousands of public service workers out there who would be willing to step up and contribute time and money to support an NDP election campaign if the party stuck up for them publicly and in its negotiations with McGuilty.

But Horwath is predictably committed to "making the minority government work", putting her in the same boat as McGuilty.

Tue, 2012-04-24 10:10

#103

Unionist

Rebecca West wrote:

Neither party had anything to gain by forcing an election.

That's a sad comment. Who cares about either party? The budget hurts workers and the poor.

Tue, 2012-04-24 11:27

#104

Grandpa_Bill

Fidel wrote:

In any event, this is good PR for the NDP. It is working to garner public attention to real issues. And it's a form of free alternative electioneering favouring the NDP. Shrewd of the NDP I think. But Horwath knows that the very next budget will require the NDP's support as well. Even more pressure on Horwath's NDP to strike when the iron should not be just hot but red hot. . . . Hopefully more Ontarians will be paying full and undivided attention next time when the NDP is in the spotlight again. And there will be a next time no doubt about it. A good stew takes some simmering. (emphasis GB)

An optimistic comment: certainly one about which many of us, even if we are not optimistic, are at least hopeful.

I wonder about those of us who are of another opinion: do you have hopes, too? are you optimistic about something else? or do you despair of anything good ever happening until . . . when?

Tue, 2012-04-24 11:51

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Life, the unive...

Unionist wrote:

Rebecca West wrote:

Neither party had anything to gain by forcing an election.

That's a sad comment. Who cares about either party? The budget hurts workers and the poor.

At least get your facts straight.

There is nothing in the actual budget about wage freezes. That was in the budget SPEECH. Big difference. That battle is coming and I expect the NDP to take the lead on that fight by supporting the demands of the labour movement.

Also the NDP has managed to turn back the freeze of disability and welfare rates. One obviously was the public face, the other a negotiating table demand. While I would love to see a large increase in these rates, in today's reality that wasn't possible. Fighting a campaign on that issue, while so many others are hurting, would have been a godsend to the Conservatives. For an object lesson in this see the Mike Harris campaign of 1995.

Tue, 2012-04-24 12:03

#106

Catchfire

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