To BB and all the others who think Horwath was cowardly by declining to force a new election, you absolutely do not get Ontario voters. Bob Rae became premier largely because David Peterson was seen by the voters as calling an unnecessary election out of political expediency. It would have been electoral suicide for the ONDP to force an election over this budget.
ONT NDP Leader Andrea Horwath will become Premier of Ontario
Fri, 2012-06-22 16:31
#102
Fri, 2012-06-22 22:02
#103
McGuinty may have a majority by the end of this year if the Kitchener-Waterloo byelection goes his way.
If McGuinty is strong enough to win that KW byelection then he wouldve been strong enough to get his majority back in a snap summer election and it would've been foolish for the NDP to call it.
Fri, 2012-06-22 23:15
#104
More to tyhe point, if the Liberals really thjought they could win the KW byelection, thery would have called the byelection by now while the other parties were asleep at the switch - by waiting until the Fall its obvious that the Liberals have now grand plan, they have no star candidate and the PCs and NDP now have all the time in the world to prepare for the byelection.
Sat, 2012-06-23 10:51
#105
McGuinty may have a majority by the end of this year if the Kitchener-Waterloo byelection goes his way.
I suspect it won't. If the PCs won it with the Liberals winning the election, they can certainly win it while they're ahead in the polls.
Sat, 2012-06-23 11:43
#106
except, Doug, both the Libs and Cons got dirty "together" when a staunch PC Witmer took the buyout from Lib leader McGuinty all using taxpayer money. Both parties got tarnished so don't think that there is going to be loving feelings for PCs - at the trough.
Sat, 2012-06-23 15:17
#107
autoworker
Since the silly season is upon us: Martha Hall Findlay would make as good a star by-election candidate as any, and an interesting prospect for eventual leadership, when McGuinty decides to step down. She may find it a gambit worth considering.
Sat, 2012-06-23 15:47
#108
If what you say is true then i guess the next Ontario election shoudl be a great opportiunity for the Communist Party to sweep to victory in ontario..what are you waiting for?
Here's another straw man for you to attack.
Sat, 2012-06-23 16:52
#109
Old conservative Ontario is a sticky wicket for sure.
Sat, 2012-06-23 22:05
#110
Since the silly season is upon us: Martha Hall Findlay would make as good a star by-election candidate as any, and an interesting prospect for eventual leadership, when McGuinty decides to step down. She may find it a gambit worth considering.
She seems to still have her eyes on the federal leadership for some reason, getting herself in the media with that article about supply management.
Sat, 2012-06-23 23:30
#111
Which Doug, I just have to add, what the hell is this urban want to be lib leader doing addressing agricultural issues - I'm sorry but she has just no credability - but yeah, so glad when the city folk come out and tell the country folk how to do agri business. 
Sun, 2012-06-24 10:20
#112
autoworker
@Doug & Jan: I think the paper Findlay presented addressed the regime of supply management, in its current application, as a trade impediment for other agricultural products (such as beef and pork), and as a consumer issue where prices of food staples are distorted and impact low income consumers with their particularly high prices. As Canada becomes more urban, and with the new allocation of seats in the Commons to reflect that reality, I think we need new definitions of rural to include natural resources as well as agriculture (which, themselves, are often at odds with each other) in their constituent interests. Still, Jan, I get your point. Perhaps it makes more sense to see agriculture in terms of food policy, as we seem to be losing the ability to feed ourselves, as we continue to outsource food production. Doug, you're right that Findlay has, so far, only indicated an interest in the federal leadership. I was, admittedly, being somewhat mischevious about her prospective provincial ambitions, which I personally think would prove more realistic.
Sun, 2012-06-24 11:08
#113
Closing
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