Syria #7: Russia readies marines for Syria mission

Gulf of Tonkin Redux? - by Stephen Lendman

http://rickrozoff.wordpress.com/2012/06/23/gulf-of-tonkin-redux/

"Ankara acted provocatively. Perhaps it was at the behest of Washington?"

Syria Warns NATO of Conspiring Against Damascus

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/06/25/247914/syria-warns-nato-against-...

"Syria has warned NATO against conspiring with Turkey against Damascus in their upcoming meeting on the shooting down by Syria of a Turkish jet fighter..."

Details for the actual shot down here...

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Makdessi pointed out that official correspondence with Turkey on Sunday clarified the details of the incident in response to the Turkish allegations that what happened was a Syrian aggression against Turkey, with the correspondence stating that on 11.40 AM on June 22nd, Syrian radar systems detected a flying object heading towards Syrian territories that performed a left turn towards the northeast and climbed down to a low altitude where it disappeared from the radars, only to appear suddenly at an altitude of 100 meters, 1 to 2 kilometers from the beach and Syrian land, and became suddenly visible to the naked eye.

He added that later, it turned out that the object was an aircraft heading towards the beach and Syrian land at a speed of 700 to 800 kph, which engaged the rules of engagement employed in all sovereign countries, prompting Syrian anti-air defense to engage it.

Makdessi affirmed that the weapon used in repelling this violation of Syrian airspace was anti-aircraft artillery firing 23.57 rounds stationed on Syrian beaches, hitting the aircraft directly, adding that the aircraft was seen heading left afterwards and crashing in Syrian territorial waters.

If it was 23.57mm cannon rounds that brought the jet down then it was well within Syrian air space. The 23mm cannon has a maximum range of about 4,000 meters (again well within Syrian air space) and is fitted on the ZSU 23-4 which is operated by the Syrian army.

Here it is here... it has four 23mm cannons on it and the round thing on top is a fire control radar which would allow it to hit a target like a fast moving low flying jet. You just turn it on and it automaticly aims and shoots at the target, all you do is feed it ammo.

The first reports I read didn't mention the Russian base location.  If this was not a testing of the Syrian/Russian defense systems it is hard to figure what else it could be.  I expect that an Iranian plane on a training mission that took it into Bahrain airspace close to the US base would have met the same fate.

I feel sorry for the pilots whose lives someone in the command structure gambled with and lost.

Yes the Russian base was pretty close to where this happened as far as flight time goes. The shoot down was justifyed as far as where the jet was. It's a pity the crew is probably lost and the current state of tention in the region resulted in the Syrian units firing on the jet instead of interseping it or warning it off.

Furious Turkey Mobilizes Tanks, Troops to Syrian Border

http://www.timesofisrael.com/turkey-mobilizes-troops-to-syrian-border/

"...Erdogan closed his remarks with an especially harsh condemnation of Syrian President Bashar Assad. 'Turkey and the Turkish people will continue to provide all support until the people of Syria have been saved from this tyrannical, murderous, bloody dictator and his gang.' Erdogan said Syria shot down the unarmed plane in international airspace in a 'deliberate and hostile' act and without warning..

Footage Proves Turkish Jet Violated Syria Airspace (and vid)

http://youtu.be/0o20bM4mh_c

"Syrian Girl Partisan speaks to Dr Ali Mohamad, Editor in Chief of www.syria-tribune.com/en/ that can verify the authenticity of a video showing the moment the Turkish F-4 was shot down.."

Life's a beach...thanks Bec you're now the official technical advisor on this thread!

In CrossTalk on RT the view was expressed that the shooting down of the Turkish fighter over Syrian airspace was as much political as military. The idea being that the Syrian regime is aware that Turkey is allowing its territory to be used as a staging area for supplying weapons, logistics, etc., for the other side in the civil war .

Sorry Fidel but it is still called the Spanish Civil War despite the support given to the fascist side by Italy and Germany and the brave International Brigades that fought shoulder to shoulder with the people.

i do not doubt that there are foreign fighters in Syria but I also don't doubt that there are many Syrians fighting the brutal regime.  That to me is the very reason that our government should stay out of it.  The Syrian people need peace to have any chance of a transition to a more democratic society.  So far peace has proven illusive in all the countries NATO has intervened in so far in the new millennium and the people of those countries are suffering the consequences of NATO having armed everybody and their brother with an automatic rifle.  There is no normal civil society left in Iraq or Libya and Syria is sinking into the same bottomless pit of violence.  However just because NATO is stirring the pot does not mean the ingredients are all from abroad. Lets not forget that we used to send our citizens to Syria to be tortured.  i am sure a regime like that has lots of internal enemies as well as NATO supported interlopers.

late breaking reports are of Turkish troop movements towards the Syrian border and  also that Saudi Arabia's King has  put his military on 'high alert'...

It looks like the Gladio Gang are trying to use their own act of war to justify escalating an attack on Syria. Threatening other countries with military attack is illegal since Nuremberg.

Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

Fidel wrote:

Imagine that Russia and China had supplied guerilla training and weapons to confederates in the American civil war.

The Confederates still would have lost. England, by the way, tried to support the Confederacy because of their dependency on cheap cotton but they backed down when Lincoln told them he'd deal with them AFTER he dealt with the civil war.

With the so called civil war in 1980's-90's Afghanistan, the CIA and Brits funded and armed mercenaries from over 40 countries to fight against secularist PDPA government forces.

Surely the confederates were outnumbered by northern Union soldiers. Surely the tables could have been turned on the North had the right incentives been offered to Mexicans and other nationals. 

Imagine the Klan and dozens of right wing militia groups running things today as a result. The FBI doesn't like to mention the numerous right wing groups there in the US and readyibng themselves for when the government goes bad. It wouldn't take much to destabilize America today imo.

Wow. What is this, a backdoor opportunity for NATO to start dropping bombs on Syria? I understand Turkey has a right to be pissed IF its` plane was in international waters, but massing troops on the border seems like an overreaction? So what now, a security council resolution to ''help'' our Turkish allies?

Only National Model Settles Syria Crisis: President Assad

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/06/29/248536/only-national-model-settl...

"...What took place in Libya is not the model to settle Syria.."

Propagandists Sell 'Vigilante' Solution for Syria  -  by Tony Cartalucci

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.ca/2012/06/propagandists-sell-vigilante-so...

"Bypassing the UN to 'end violence' of its own creation. West plumbs new depths of its own depravity.."

Time for Regime Change in USA  -  by Rodney Shakespeare

http://presstv.ir/detail/2012/06/29/248601/time-for-regime-change--the-usa/

"With breathtaking arrogance, the USA is opposing the presence of Iran at the discussions about Syria in Geneva.."

yeah, laugh aloud. What an interesting and diverse range of opinions.  It's all good.  

You know, I don't even think Al-CIA'da is a progressive organization. As far as I can tell they don't promote women's rights. Not at all.

Women Fight For Right To Join Al Qaeda 2009

And that was 2009. Nothing since so far. CIA'da is not a very transparent group by what I can tell. Do the women of CIA'da have upward mobility or opportunities for advancement? Are the C.I.A.'s female expendable jihadi assets even included in the pension plan? Something tells me that it simply isn't true. I think Syrian women will not do so well under a NATO-backed right wing theocracy. 

Israel's Stolen Palestinian Oil and Gas Reserves and Plans to Steal Syria's as well - Why We Fight: Canada as Accomplice

Struggle Over the Middle East: Gas Ranks First  - by Imad Fawzi Shueibi

http://www.voltairenet.org/Struggle-over-the-Middle-East-Gas

"...The media and military attack against Syria is directly related to the global competition for energy. It becomes clear that the key to economic success and political domination lies mainly in the control of the energy source of the century: gas. It is because she is at the heart of the most colossal gas reserves in the world that Syria is being targeted.

What we know about this issue is that the Mediterranean basin is the wealthiest in gas and that Syria would be the wealthiest state, according to the Washington Institute. Who controls Syria could control the Middle East, grip on the gateway to Asia, possess the key to Russia's House, as Catherine 2nd put it and could set foot on the Silk Road, according to China.

Most importantly they who could penetrate Syria for gas have the ability to dominate the world...Syria, undoubtedly would be the key to the coming epoch."

Canada Moves To Strengthen Energy Ties with Israel

http://www.cija.ca/jerusalem/canada-moves-to-strengthen-energy-ties-with...

"Canada is looking to strengthen energy ties with Israel in a move that could help the Jewish state alter the balance of oil power in the Middle East. Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver left for the country on Friday. His trip will be focused on pitching Canada to his counterparts in government, oil company executives and leading academics as an ideal partner to help Israel develop its newly discovered bounty of unconventional oil and gas...

The discovery last year of a field 30 kilometres southwest of Jerusalem estimated by the London-based World Energy Council to contain up to 250 billion barrels of shale oil, together with 16 trillion cubic feet of natural gas found offshore [Gaza!] have suddenly put Israel's name on the energy map. The oil find rivals global oil superpower Saudi Arabia's 260 billion barrels in proven conventional reserves and was publicly dubbed 'the equivalent of Saudi extra-light' by Harold Vinegar, former chief scientist for Royal Dutch Shell.

Bob Schulz, professor of petroleum land management at the University of Calgary's Haskayne School of Business, said the possibility of Canadian technology and investment going to Israel 'would certainly change the political dynamics of the Middle East, in that energy revenue would give it the means to finance much of its own defence instead of continuing to rely on Western support."

As in Libya and the controlled detonation of that country - Canada's involvement in Syria is consistent with our usual role as satan's little helper. As always few get it and even fewer care.

NATO, US, Israel Know They Have Met Their Match with Syria (and vid)

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07/01/248847/removing-assad-will-add-t...

"Press TV interviewed James Fetzer, professor and philosopher, Madison, about the strength of the Syrian position on its own and in partnership with Russia, China and Iran.."

US has Sinister Plan for World: Analyst (and vid)

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07/02/24892/us-has-sinister-plan-for-w...

Interview with Dr Webster Griffin Tarpley...

Her Majesty's BBC's Syria Coverage: "Sorry for the Lies"...

Felicity Arbuthnot wrote:

"Creativity is the lifeblood of our organisation." (BBC Mission statement.)

As the sabre rattling towards Iran and the ongoing tragedy in Syria become increasingly hard to unravel, "media errors" or perhaps even "obfuscation" create their own navigational complexities.

One example: on Sunday July 1st, BBC news programmes repeatedly stated that Syrian troops had fired at mourners at a funeral in or near Damascus (i.) Para 4:

"...Meanwhile, activists said a funeral procession in a suburb of Damascus came under mortar attack and 30 people died.

"The UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights released amateur video footage claiming to show the explosion in Zamalka, a town 10km (six miles) east of the Syrian capital.

"There has been no independent confirmation of the incident."

However the Los Angeles Times had an entirely different take on exactly the same event (ii.) A car bomb, rather than mortar attacks by Syrian forces, had killed up to eighty five mourners or members of the public:

"The car bomb went off as the procession passed a mosque. Hazy video clouded by dust in the first moments after the explosion showed dozens of mangled bodies lying on the road and the stretcher carrying Halabi's body on the ground nearby.

‘ "I can't describe my feelings, because I am still numb right now given what I saw today," said Abu Omar, whose cousin was killed and father and uncle injured. "No one can withstand what we saw ..." ‘

Car bomb?

See History of the Car Bomb New-generation car bombers are graduates of CIA terrorism schools

When it comes to car and truck bombs, "improvised explosive devices", training schools for hijacking planes etc. the Gladio Gang have all the bases covered since waging holy anticommunist jihad in the 1980's and 90's.

Bodies of Two Turkish Pilots Found

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/249332.html

According to Turkish sources the bodies of Captain Gokhyin Ertan and Lieutenant Hasan Huseyin Aksoy were found on the Eastern Mediterranean sea bed by a US deep sea exploration vessel on Wednesday. The bodies were located at a depth of 1,260 meters..."

And in other news...

WikiLeaks has data from 2.4 million Syrian emails

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The secret-spilling group WikiLeaks said Thursday it was in the process of publishing material from 2.4 million Syrian emails - many of which it said came from official government accounts.

But they're not going to allow everyone access to them all....

Baird blames Russia for UN ‘losing its relevance' in Syrian crisis

Putin should be as vicious a toadie as Baird. God help us.

Fidel wrote:

Baird blames Russia for UN ‘losing its relevance' in Syrian crisis

Putin should be as vicious a toadie as Baird. God help us.

Actually, that should read "Baird parrots U.S. SOS Clinton". The Cons have no opinion until and unless they are told to have one by the U.S. I root for Putin, not to say he is an ideal, but at this point at least he's not a lapdog of the U.S.

Yes that's all Baird is, a squawking parrot perched on uncle whiskers' shoulder. 

And I hope Putin is not a toadie. Lots of friends of the west in the Kremlin and Moscow apparently. They are no strangers to Russian style gladio themselves. Some real bad bastards there in Spetsnaz and KGB-"FSB." Dirty as you want. "Russian gladio" sounds absurd, I know. But I believe they, too, have been guilty of false flag treachery in the past.

Assad won't flee anywhere. Russia may be crafty but it's not stupid. Assad will meet a NATO inspired end in Syria.