The Innocence of Muslims - by Layla Anwar
http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.it/2012/09/the-innocence-of-muslims.html
"It took me much courage to watch it - that 'famous' film..."
Libyan and Egyptian freedom fighters mark 9/11 anniversary
Mon, 2012-09-17 01:16
#52
Mon, 2012-09-17 01:41
#53
Finally The Truth: Muslim Protests About NATO Drone Strikes, Backing of Saudi Jihadists (and vids)
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/09/15/truth-finally-muslim-protest...
"In this interview the flash point for the violence is specifically identified as Saudi Arabia's Salafi Jihadists condemning a NATO drone assassination. Pro-NATO groups propel Arab protests, chaos plays into West's hands...
Anti-US Film Excuse for More US Boots on Ground: Analyst (and vid)
http://presstv.com/detail/2012/09/15/261762/us-film-pretext-to-kill-musl...
"An Amerian political analyst says the latest anti-Islam film and the deadly unrest following its release is a pretext for the US to wage more wars in the Middle East..."
A Night With the Fanatics - by Michael Coren
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/09/14/a-night-with-the-fanatics
"...so a night with the fanatics. Thank God they do not have the guns and bombs possessed by their friends in the Middle East. But they live among us and their hatred and anger knows no bounds.."
Michael Coren on the counter-protest to his JDL friends' anti-Khadr , Toronto 9/11 vigil
Mon, 2012-09-17 11:51
#54
The Innocence of Muslims - by Layla Anwar
http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.it/2012/09/the-innocence-of-muslims.html
"It took me much courage to watch it - that 'famous' film..."
What Clinton actually said was that the attack was carried out by "a small and savage group" - not "a small group of savages".
http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/09/12/usa-libya-clinton-statement-idI...
Strange that Anwar isn't the only one to mangle the statement (sometimes even IN quotes) in order to make it seem as if Clinton said something that she did not.
http://www.google.ca/search?q=%22a+small+group+of+savages%22&ie=utf-8&oe...
Mon, 2012-09-17 14:56
#55
From the deadly funny citation from Clinton in previous post:
"I ask myself, how could this happen? How could this happen in a country we helped liberate,["liberate" Libya's oil fields?] in a city we helped save from destruction?" Clinton said. "This question reflects just how complicated and, at times, how confounding the world can be."
Poor innocently bewildered Clinton, and poor bewildered Babblers who cheered for the Al Qaida/NATO "freedom fighter" alliance in Libya. Apparently no-one could have guessed--unless they paid attention before cheering.
As Greenwald noted:
US media angrily marvels at the lack of Muslim gratitude
NBC News, along with a leading US newspaper, insist that Egyptians should be grateful to the US for having 'freed' them
....
But it's also the case that such [Libyan] invasions produce extreme anger, as well: among the families of those killed by the invading forces, or who suffer from the resulting lawlessness and instability. Combine that with the fact that it was repeatedly noted that US involvement in Libya meant that anti-US extremists, including al-Qaida, were being armed and empowered by the US, it is far from mystifying, as Secretary Clinton insisted, that some people in Libya are deeply hostile to the US and want to do it harm...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/14/egypt-nbc
We are again (still) seeing the papering over of deep seated anger of continued Western imperialism, intervention, and the proping up of useful dictators that has been going on for a century. The US quickly changed its initial response to make it a mere matter of "spontaneously" crazy muslim fanatics and their hatred of free speech:
In the wake of Tuesday’s Benghazi Consulate attack, US officials marveled at the complexity of the attack, saying the attackers were “well-armed and seemingly well-informed” before launching the multi-hour siege on the consulate, killing the US Ambassador and several others.[ http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/09/12/senior_officials_reve... ]
That was the story, but now officials are telling something completely different, with US Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice calling the attack “spontaneous” and saying that the attackers were trying to “replicate” what happened in Cairo....
[ http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/ambassador-susan-rice-libya... ]
...
http://news.antiwar.com/2012/09/16/was-benghazi-attack-preplanned-libya-...
Antiwar also linked to the following mainstream stories:
An NPR interview with the Libyan President:
September 16, 2012
Libya's president says he believes al-Qaida is behind a deadly attack in eastern Libya that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other U.S. staffers.The ambush earlier this week gets at a deeper security problem in Libya: The government has no control over the heavy weaponry that proliferated during the days of the rebellion. There is no functioning justice system, and Megarif says extremist elements have infiltrated the security apparatus.
....
"The idea that this criminal and cowardly act was a spontaneous protest that just spun out of control is completely unfounded and preposterous," he says. "We firmly believe that this was a precalculated, preplanned attack that was carried out specifically to attack the U.S. Consulate."Megarif claims evidence shows that some elements of Ansar al-Sharia, an extremist group in eastern Benghazi, were used as tools by foreign citizens with ties to al-Qaida to attack the consulate and threaten Libya's stability....
See also:
War of words over deadly raid: Libya claims U.S. was warned THREE DAYS in advance of consulate attacks but America says assault was NOT plannedLibyan military official claims he met with U.S. diplomats to tell them about the deteriorating security situation
President Mohamed el-Megarif says the attacks were NOT sparked by anti-Islamic video, but by Al Qaeda-connected foreigners
But UN ambassador Susan Rice insists assault was 'spontaneous'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2204112/Libya-claims-US-warned-T...
Mon, 2012-09-17 15:52
#56
Bec.De.Corbin
Witness: Libyans tried to rescue US ambassador
Ambassador Chris Stevens was still breathing when Libyans stumbled across him inside a room in the American Consulate in Benghazi, cheering, "Alive, alive" and "God is great" when they discovered he was still breathing and then trying to rescue him after last week's deadly attack in the eastern Libyan city, witnesses told The Associated Press on Monday.
Fahd al-Bakoush, a freelance videographer, was among the Libyan civilians roaming freely through the consulate after gunmen and protesters rampaged through it last Tuesday night. Al-Bakoush said he heard someone call out that he had tripped over a dead body.
A group of people gathered as several men pulled the seemingly lifeless form from the room. They saw he was alive and a foreigner, though no one knew who he was, al-Bakoush said.
Mon, 2012-09-17 16:00
#57
Bec.De.Corbin
double post...
Tue, 2012-09-18 03:23
#58
Tens of Thousands March in Anti-US Rally in Beirut (Live)
http://rt.com/on-air/lebanon-anti-us-protest/
Hezbollah Sec-Gen Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah Speech on Offensive Film - 16 September, 2012 (and vid)
Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah - Sept 17, 2012. A rare public appearance and speech to 100,000 in Beirut (and vid)
http://shabbir.hassanally.net/2012/09/17/sayyed-hassan-nasrallah-septemb...
"O America, listen to us, you cannot humiliate our religion!"
Tue, 2012-09-18 12:53
#59
Further to: As Violent Protests Spread in Middle East, Canadian Hindu Group Screening Anti-Islam Film to Make a Point About Tolerance
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/09/13/as-violent-protest-spread-in-mid...
"...Mr Banerjee said the Toronto movie screening will be an inter-faith presentation and he is working with members of the Sikh, Jewish and Christian communities."
This is simply a provocation designed to make trouble Long time babblers will know of Mr Banerjee - joined at the hip to the Jewish Defence League Canada. For those that don't just put his name in babble's search box..
The Innocence of Muslims and the Dirty Conscience of Ron Banerjee
http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/09/14/the-innocence-of-muslims-and-the-dirt...
"Remember when I wrote about Ron Banerjee, the proud and out bigot heading the Canadian Hindu Advocacy? Well, he's back in the news again, not for protesting middle schools, or walking his dog around a Mosque in the name of freedom, but for declaring that he is going to screen that awful movie (not awfully offensive, just plain awful) right here at home. Why? 'To promote tolerance of different ideas and different viewpoints within Canada.."
Comment:
'Thanks for finally exposing Ron Banerjee as a bigot. Now when is the media going to give Meir Weinstein of the Jewish Defence League the same treatment?' - D.G.
Tue, 2012-09-18 20:57
#60
Never mind all this conspiracy nonsense.
Ya! We wanna know which troops from which axes of evol countries and their Al CIA'da pals are in there putting locks on Libya's oil ... for whatever reasons. And that's without naming a single blood for Gladio member nation. Not a one.
Tue, 2012-09-18 22:21
#61
Bec.De.Corbin
Free speech, religion clash over anti-Muslim film
While the man behind an anti-Islam movie that ignited violence across the Middle East would likely face swift punishment in his native Egypt for making the film, in America the government is in the thorny position of protecting his free speech rights and looking out for his safety even while condemning his message.
It's a paradox that makes little sense to those protesting and calling for blood. To them, the movie dialogue denigrating the Prophet Muhammad is all the evidence needed to pursue justice — vigilante or otherwise — against Nakoula Bassely Nakoula, an American citizen originally from Egypt.
In America, there's nothing illegal about making a movie that disparages a religious figure. And that has the Obama administration walking a diplomatic tight rope less than two months before the election — how to express outrage over the movie's treatment of Islam without compromising the most basic American freedom.
"The thing that makes this particularly difficult for the United States is that ... we treat what most of us would refer to as hate speech as constitutionally protected speech and Americans don't appreciate, I think, how unusual this position seems in the rest of the world," said Lawrence Rosenthal, a professor at Chapman University's School of Law in Orange, Calif.
South Park would be the first to go if such laws were passed in the USA. Althought they do kind of back off when it comes to Islam South Park busts on religion all the time. It was probably wise for them to have done so.
Tue, 2012-09-18 22:23
#62
Bec.De.Corbin
and yet another double post...
Wed, 2012-09-19 00:12
#63
@ Bec
I see why you posted the article, but I found it pretty dumb nonetheless.There is no story there.
Of course the government is obliged to protect someone from assault, no matter what he or she does. I don't see how U.S. law or the principle of free speech is in any way confounded or threatened by this film. I don't think it is an issue at all. What diplomatic tightrope? What about the election? What clash between religion and free speech? One can condemn something without demanding that it be censored or criminalized, and there is a difference between something which is offensive, and hate speech.
Nobody's going after South Park any more than they are going after Birth of a Nation. For that matter, there are plenty of things in our society which truly are designed to incite hatred - racial, misogynist, homophobic, xenophobic, and yes, religious - and yet not too many people even recognize them for what they are.
Wed, 2012-09-19 12:36
#64
Is publishing, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" considered to be a free speech in America. Here and in Europe it will rightly get you jail time. Seems to me comparing this film to that disgusting and vile hate literature is the proper comparison.
Hate speech is not free. It costs the people who are the subject matter of it, dearly.
Wed, 2012-09-19 13:05
#65
Bec.De.Corbin
Is publishing, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" considered to be a free speech in America.
Yes. Our 1st Amendment befuddles outsiders like you (and even ourselves) at times. That is why I posted that article, not because I thought there was a chance we’ll (be forced to) change our laws over this.
You also have the right to protest it.
Wed, 2012-09-19 13:17
#66
I'll follow the protocol of rabble and be discrete about the link, but if you want a copy all you have to do is go to amazon.com. I expect you can get Mein Kampf there too. Apparently WalMart sold The Protocols until 2004, when they removed it voluntarily. I did read Will Eisner's fine book on the hoax, and it is very much alive and available.
No, hate speech is not free, and I think I made the point that wilful incitement of hatred is not exactly the same thing as offensive material.
I watched this video, and frankly I it seems to me the target audience was not those who would persecute Muslims, but rather Muslims themselves - specifically those who would rightly be offended. Did anyone even see this video before the arabic translation showed up? Frankly, it is like a very bad episode of South Park - to the point that it is absurd.Yes, I'd say it is in that grey area, and I'd say those who made and distributed it are trying to incite some violence. But I think there is some evidence that it may be a cover for some carefully-planned actions, rather than an explosion of outrage.
And the fact remains that it does not pose any philosophical threat in North American society, unless one is seriously considering imposing blasphemy laws. The White House condemned the film. The cops detained the guy for questioning - he was, after all, using an alias and had some prior convictions. But how is there any clash between free speech and religious freedom here, or any effect on the election, or any question of whether someone should be protected from violence?
Wed, 2012-09-19 13:20
#67
Never mind all this conspiracy nonsense.
Please correct me if i am wrong but I am not seeing anything that links Israel to this film, and without some soiid evidence it is inappropriate to do so.....
I agree with you about the crackpot Griffin, every time he opens his mouth I half-expect bats to fly out. I agree also there is zero evidence that the Israeli government was behind this particular hate film.
Exposing "Sam Bacile" as a Coptic Christian is often treated as "end of story" in the mainstream press.
Investigative journalist Bruce Wilson has dug a little deeper, following the money, and the relation to pro-Israel zealots including the secular and Christian Armageddonists:
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2012/9/16/12752/9534/Front_Page/Pamela_...
Mainstream media fear and complicity inherent in making the long-standing connection of rabid pro-Israeli supporters with much Muslim hate propaganda is generally ignored.
That is made crystal clear in this story in The Toronto Star, (which appeared after the easily known Banerjee facts displayed in the posts upthread).
Toronto Star:
A Canadian Hindu group is wrong to air the vile film that triggered a Muslim backlash
Published on Saturday September 15, 2012
....
At root, Canadian Hindu Advocacy [ie. Banerjee] is a militantly anti-Muslim organization. Banerjee is of the view that “Islam, the Islamic civilization, has invented and contributed less to human advancement than a pack of donkeys,” as he put it in a speech two years ago. That puts his grand claim of wanting to promote tolerance and respect into perspective. Banerjee has also associated with British, Dutch and other groups that are virulently anti-Muslim. And this isn’t his first provocative act. He was behind a dog-walking stunt outside a mosque on Friday to irritate some in the Muslim community who regard dogs as unclean...
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/article/1257183--a-canadian-hi...
The copywriter (or editor) above mentions Banerjee's association with "British, Dutch and other groups that are virulently anti-Muslim",
But the article carefully doesn't mention that the "other groups" include Canada's own prominent JDL.
According to the link from Banergee's site, his "donkeys" speech was "sponsored" by the JDL of Canada in support of Geert Wilders and introduced by Meir Weinstein http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj81QvbYpZg.
These little connections not worthy of mention? How so?
Wed, 2012-09-19 13:57
#68
And, if anyone wonders at what point does Canada's criminal anti-hate legislation kick in, it is largely a matter of careful assessment by those who have power.
The Royal Harperian Mounted Police obviously have their hands full thwarting more serious incitements to hate to get involved in such trifles:
http://rabble.ca/babble/national-news/plane-towing-anti-harper-banner-gr...
Wed, 2012-09-19 13:58
#69
Bec.De.Corbin
And this isn’t his first provocative act. He was behind a dog-walking stunt outside a mosque on Friday to irritate some in the Muslim community who regard dogs as unclean...
I was wondering about what that whole walking the dog thing was about when I read it up thread.
Wed, 2012-09-19 14:14
#70
But how is there any clash between free speech and religious freedom here, or any effect on the election, or any question of whether someone should be protected from violence?
It is about the clash between hate speech and free speech not religion. Hate speech is illegal in Canada and I am glad that we don't allow people like this asshole to deliberately spread hate towards a defined group that could in actual fact lead to racist Islamomophobes taking "revenge" on real people in the streets of the US. I fell free in saying that violence will happen since it seems to be a regular occurrence. Hell the racists even shoot Sikh's in the US because they are subjected to so much hate speech about Islam.
Wed, 2012-09-19 14:44
#71
@ k
I agree that the real question has to do with free speech and hate speech. It is not such a clear-cut question though.
The free-speech/freedom of religion false dichotomy was what that article was trying to sell. I have a problem with that, just as I have a problem with blasphemy as a justification for censorship.
@ Bec
I also read that he is an anti-choice activist.
Wed, 2012-09-19 16:35
#72
Bec.De.Corbin
that could in actual fact lead to racist Islamomophobes taking "revenge" on real people in the streets of the US. I fell free in saying that violence will happen since it seems to be a regular occurrence. Hell the racists even shoot Sikh's in the US because they are subjected to so much hate speech about Islam.
Are you talking about this stupid YouTube video and the protests world wide over it provoking us in to violent attacks on Muslims in the USA?
Oh please.
Please keep in mine there are almost 380 million of us down here south of you and we're armed to the teeth. There's always going to be idiots in a group that big and the attack on the Sikh(s) was done by an idiot whom couldn't think past his next six pack. I know you pretty much hate the USA and never miss an opportunity to bash it but considering our numbers I think we're being quit well behaved over this.
Wed, 2012-09-19 20:53
#73
that could in actual fact lead to racist Islamomophobes taking "revenge" on real people in the streets of the US. I fell free in saying that violence will happen since it seems to be a regular occurrence. Hell the racists even shoot Sikh's in the US because they are subjected to so much hate speech about Islam.
Are you talking about this stupid YouTube video and the protests world wide over it provoking us in to violent attacks on Muslims in the USA?
Oh please.
Please keep in mine there are almost 380 million of us down here south of you and we're armed to the teeth. There's always going to be idiots in a group that big and the attack on the Sikh(s) was done by an idiot whom couldn't think past his next six pack. I know you pretty much hate the USA and never miss an opportunity to bash it but considering our numbers I think we're being quit well behaved over this.
I also think it's rather quaint to imagine that hate-speech laws are going to stop anyone from viewing the material in question.
Anyone who hears the phrase "Danish cartoons" can do a quick google and be immediately directed to the wikipedia page, which contains the full catalogue with accompanying descriptions.
Furthermore, even without the internet, good luck finding a judge anywhere in North America or Europe who's gonna rule that caricatures of an historical figure constitute hate speech. France and the Scandinavian countries all have hate-speech laws, but that didn't stop the Danish cartoons from being widely disseminated in those places. Heck, Charlie Hebdo just gleefully tossed another log onto the fire, while they were already under police protection for their last round of cartoons.
Thu, 2012-09-20 12:58
#74
BEC you are right. America is the guiding light in the world and its Benevolent Exceptionalism is on display for the world to see.
I am glad you can dismiss hate crimes in your country so easily.
Where are the MSM articles talking about the religious nuts in your country inflicting violence against people because of their religion. Where is the outrage against the Xian fanatics who run your country and regularly call for murder and mayhem to be rained down on Islamic countries or over the people who get riled after listening to Republican demagogues and go out and firebomb a mosque, to show their patriotism.
I don't hate the USA, I hate your countries crimes against humanity. Stop doing those and I can assure you my views on your country will instantly change.
Unfortunately, the targeting of Islamic places of worship is becoming expected. Earlier this year, the Southern Poverty Law Center reported, “The number of anti-Muslim groups tripled in 2011, jumping from 10 groups in 2010 to 30 last year.”i According to the FBI there were 107 anti- Muslim hate crimes in 2009 to 160 in 2010, the last year for which numbers are available.ii
Incidents in Illinois included shots fired at a mosque in Morton Grove and an acid bomb thrown at an Islamic school in Lombard. In other states, a mosque was burned to the ground in Joplin, Mo., vandals sprayed an Oklahoma mosque with paintballs, pigs legs were thrown at a mosque- site in California, and a firebomb was thrown at a Muslim family's home in Panama City, Fla.
The violence against religion during this period was not limited to Muslim targets. In what was by far the worst incident, six Sikhs were gunned down by a white supremacist in Wisconsin. A security guard at the Family Research Council, a right-wing Christian organization, was shot in the arm as he heroically barred a gunman from the group’s office. The windows of an Arab Christian church in Detroit were broken by vandals.
http://www.islamophobia-watch.com/islamophobia-watch/category/usa
Thu, 2012-09-20 13:39
#75
I'm as guilty as any in adding my 2 cent on matters of the hate flick, but is easy to get distracted from the actual facts of the central Benghazi consulate raid.
It had little, or nothing, to do with the video, despite the US Government wanting us to believe it.
See my post #55
http://rabble.ca/babble/international-news-and-politics/libyan-and-egypt...
Glenn Greenwald has now presented a masterful summing up of the changing narrative and the obvious reasons why the Obama Government has pursued this disinformation campaign:
Obama officials' spin on Benghazi attack mirrors Bin Laden raid untruthsIn a familiar pattern, White House claims about what motivated the killing of the US ambassador in Libya are now contradicted
....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/20/obama-officials-spin...
Thu, 2012-09-20 23:15
#76
Gwynne Dyer's take: The Christian fanatics and the Muslim extremists are, in the old Marxist phrase, “objective allies”.
http://www.straight.com/article-780521/vancouver/gwynne-dyer-outrage-ove...
Oh, and don't forget to scroll down and read HellSlayerAndy's rebuttal.
Fri, 2012-09-21 00:11
#77
Bec.De.Corbin
BEC you are right. America is the guiding light in the world and its Benevolent Exceptionalism is on display for the world to see.
I am glad you can dismiss hate crimes in your country so easily.
I never said we don't have problems, and I'm not dismissing them.
There will always be hate and ignorance amoungst humans and people who will act on those emotions. There isn't one nation on this planet thats got zero hate crimes of one form or another.
Here's what I get out of this exchange with you: you point out incidents that have happened in the USA (fair enough), I don't dispute that they happened and I agree they show some of the bigger flaws in US society. Where I disagree with you on is the amount of support you claim those actions get by the US population as a whole. for one reason or another I think your exaggerating the extent of support these crimes have. I mean come on, you did notice most all those incidents, especially the vandalizing, happened at night when nobody was around and not done to a cheering mob of people. There’s a reason for that and it’s not because they are afraid of the Muslims. They are afraid of being arrested by us, the people. Just because some of them get away with it don't mean everyone approves of what they did.
If we were as bad as I perceive you to making us out to be there shouldn’t be a mosque left in the USA since 9-11. That’s what I disagree with you about and it doesn’t mean I support or ignore what has happened. To be honest with you accusing me of that is pretty messed up. Now if I’m wrong about that then I apologize.
I’ll let you have the last shot and then I’m moving on. Fire away...
Fri, 2012-09-21 12:00
#78
If we were as bad as I perceive you to making us out to be there shouldn’t be a mosque left in the USA since 9-11. That’s what I disagree with you about and it doesn’t mean I support or ignore what has happened. To be honest with you accusing me of that is pretty messed up. Now if I’m wrong about that then I apologize.
I’ll let you have the last shot and then I’m moving on. Fire away...
So you get to perceive insights from my posts that I have not actually stated but it is pretty messed up for me to perceive anything from your posts.
Sounds fair to me.
Fri, 2012-09-21 13:58
#79
Berets Only: French Far-Right Leader Demands Ban on Muslim, Jewish Headwear
http://rt.com/news/france-muslim-jewish-headwear-ban-674/
"France's far-right leader and former presidential hopeful Marine LePen has called for a ban on wearing Muslim veils and Jewish skullcaps in public, leading to fears of an increase in religious tensions sparked by cartoons of the Prophet Momammed.."
Fri, 2012-09-21 14:28
#80
Bec.De.Corbin
I guess it's never going to stop now...... an ad in the NYC transit system.
Fri, 2012-09-21 15:06
#81
@ bec.
These ads pre-date the anti-muslim film though they likely originate from the same cess-pit as indicated by the link in post #66.
====
Berets Only: French Far-Right Leader Demands Ban on Muslim, Jewish Headwear
http://rt.com/news/france-muslim-jewish-headwear-ban-674/
....
I see the RT story cluelessly perpetuates the US Government/media disinformation that the anti-muslim film provoked "the killing of the US envoy to Libya".
It shows once again that the propaganda strategy that saturates the first wave of a news cycle is the one that successfully persists in the public (and media!) mind despite any unavoidable allowances for reality that are acknowledged at a later date. See post #74
Fri, 2012-09-21 17:02
#82
Bec.De.Corbin
Probably are but I think they are re-posting them then becouse the story I got the picture from said they were being put up again after a judge ruled they can't be blocked.
Fri, 2012-09-21 18:56
#83
Yes, they made their debut in San Francisco a few weeks ago. Now they're heading to the NYC subway system starting next week.
Here's how San Francisco dealt with some of them:
Fri, 2012-09-21 19:22
#84
@ onlinediscountanvils
Love it!
That's the way to hack those haters.
Fri, 2012-09-21 23:55
#85
Benghazi Attack and the NATO Cover-Up
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/09/21/262767/benghazi-attack-and-the-...
"...The Green Resistance lives, and furthermore it is only getting started..."
Sat, 2012-09-22 00:52
#86
Bec.De.Corbin
Libyans storm Islamist militia base in Benghazi
Pro-government demonstrators stormed the headquarters of the Islamist Ansar al-Sharia militia in the Libyan city of Benghazi on Friday, aiming to evict fighters from the site, Reuters witnesses said. Ansar al-Sharia has been linked to the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi last week in which the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans died. It denies involvement.
Friday's action against the group appeared to be part of a coordinated sweep of militia headquarters buildings by police, government troops and activists following a mass public demonstration against militia units earlier in the day.
Chanting "Libya, Libya", hundreds of demonstrators entered, pulling down militia flags and torching a vehicle inside the compound, the group's main base in Benghazi.
Last post for the weekend. We'll see how this hashes out by Monday.
Sun, 2012-09-23 03:45
#87
omit
Sun, 2012-09-23 13:27
#88
Obama Speech Presaged Tumult - by Ezra Levant
http://torontosun.com/2012/09/21/obama-speech-presaged-tumult
"American foreign policy is in a shambles, but Obama remains unperturbed. Why? The answer lies in his keynote foreign affairs speech delivered in the spring of 2009 in Cairo, Egypt..."
As predicted, here is yet another iteration of where Zionism intends going with this developing anti-Islam provocation...
and another member of the same choir singing a similar tune...
Sun, 2012-09-23 17:47
#89
Ezra Levant - such a credible source. 
Sun, 2012-09-23 20:35
#90
as the mouthpiece he is - credible enough
Mon, 2012-09-24 20:54
#91
Who Killed Ambassador Stevens?
http://www.blacklistednews.com/Who_killed_Ambassador_Stevens%3F/21669/0/...
"Why was our ambassador to Tripoli in Benghazi on the eve of the 9/11 anniversary? Who decided to delay posting US Marine embassy security guards at our Libyan diplomatic missions?..."
So, Really, Why Do They Hate Us? - by Paul Atwood
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/21/so-really-why-do-they-hate-us/
"Recent attacks on American embassies and consulates in numerous Muslim countries are claimed to be irrational and undue reactions to a film..."
Thu, 2012-09-27 14:57
#92
The US administration has predictable altered its initial, unsustainable, propaganda line that the embassy killings were a "spontaneous" response to the anti-Islamic video (see above) rather than a carefully planned assault by one of the jihadist militias which they and their allies armed.
Clinton made the statement at a special US meeting on the security situation in North Africa. “Now, with a larger safe haven and increased freedom to maneuver, terrorists are seeking to extend their reach and their networks in multiple directions,” she told world leaders at the meeting....
http://news.antiwar.com/2012/09/26/clinton-admits-attack-on-consulate-in...
The response of the the babbling cheerleaders for intervention:
"Support the Libyan freedom fighters, yahoo!"
uhhh, nevermind....
o yeah,
"Support the Syrian freedom fighters, yahoo!"
Fri, 2012-09-28 03:28
#93
Mugabe: Humanitarian Imperialism, R2P, the Murder of Gaddafi and the Destruction of Libya
http://zeroanthropology.net/2012/09/27/mugabe-humanitarian-imperialism-r...
"As we in spirit join the United States in condemning the death of Christopher Stevens, shall the US also join us in condemning the barbaric death of the Head of State of Libya, Gaddafi?..."
Fri, 2012-09-28 14:01
#94
GRTV: Islam and the Politics of Hegemony - by Dr Chandra Muzaffar (and vid)
http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2012/09/islam-and-politics-hegemony
"Muslim response to 'The Innocence of Muslims' film and its relationship to Western hegemony."
Sun, 2012-09-30 23:29
#95
White House Knew Benghazi Attack Was a Terrorist Attack From Day One
http://rt.com/usa/news/clinton-al-qaeda-benghazi-attack-130/
"...For some time, al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and other groups have launched attacks and kidnappings from northern Mali into neighboring countries,' Clinton told the [UN] crowd this week. Now, with a large safe haven and increased freedom to maneuver, terrorists are seeking to extend their reach and their networks in multiple directions. And they are working with other violent extremists to undermine the democratic transitions underway in North Africa, and as we tragically saw in Benghazi.'
Secretary Clinton's address was delivered at a United Nation's meeting on instability in the Sahel, the region of Africa that includes Mali and, apparently, terrorist operatives committing assaults on America for al-Qaeda.."
CIA Fingerprints All Over Benghazi 'Innocence' Psyop
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/09/24/cia-fingerprints-all-over-ben...
"As a result of the reported death of Amb Stevens, the CIA now gets to use more dones in Libya in full public view to bomb and murder various opposition leaders, the rank and file of the Green Resistance adn their familyu members as well...So when one asks 'Who benefits from the 'Innocence of the Muslims' psyop, the answer firmly comes back, the CIA..."
Thu, 2013-05-16 18:23
#96
Benghazi and the Deepening Crisis of the Obama Administration
Some 100 pages of emails released by the White House Wednesday in an attempt to quash the controversy show that the CIA, the State Department, the Pentagon, the FBI, the National Security Council and the White House all intervened in the editing of Rice’s script, with the [u]State Department exerting the greatest pressure to remove references to Al Qaeda and Libyan Islamist militias[/u] that were present in its first drafts. ...For over a decade now, Washington under both Bush and Obama has sought to justify its military interventions abroad and its attacks on democratic rights at home in the name of a never-ending global war on terror, and specifically a supposed struggle to eradicate Al Qaeda.
The reality, however, is that the US and its intelligence agencies have long had a far more complex relationship with these forces than anyone in the US government cares to admit.
Al-Qaeda does not now nor has it ever existed.
Fri, 2013-05-17 02:41
#97
US Smuggling Weapons to Syrian Rebels: The Real Benghazi Story
http://asiantribune.com/node/62584
"...And the 'real show' is US Ambassador Stevens playing a major role in the process of shipping arms to Syrian rebels to topple Bashar al Assad's regime."