It'd be sickening if the Greens took Victoria. It would be a massive swing to the right and a mandate to do nothing about the sewage system. As far as I can see, the Greens made no positive promises in that riding at all.
Who knew Victoria residents would be this big on doing nothing about raw sewage?
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newest results put the NDP 1 vote ahead. Hopefully, that trend will hold and accelerate. The Greens are only running this close, I think, because the local Liberals voted for them strategically just to mess over the NDP.
Online Party Michael Nicula 104 0.4
Debater, you are wrong you offensive moron! By the way, you are loosing.
Actually the 3 non-progressive right-wing parties, the Libs, the Cons, and the Greens, are polling 67% of the vote in Durham.
Dear me, are you suggesting...the Liberal results...might be a pyrrhic victory?
Or perhaps an old NDP favourite; a moral victory?
So glad to see the Liberals' tender embrace of their third party status
Looks like the Conservatives are 20 points ahead in Durham.
If that stays like that, it may get called soon.
There is no contest in Calgary Centre, except in the minds of party spin doctors.
Conservative Joan Crockett is walking away with it now in Alberta.
Harper will sleep well tonite.
BREAKING: Canadian Press: Conservative candidate Erin O'Toole has won the federal byelection in the central Ontario riding of Durham.
https://twitter.com/CP24
Keep telling yourself that, North Report.
The big story of the night is that whereas the NDP didn't even come close to the Conservatives in Durham, the Liberals are likely going to finish a very close 2nd to the Conservatives in the heart of Western Canada. Meanwhile the NDP is down in the single digits in Calgary Centre.
Too soon to say for sure what it means for the next election, but it appears that the Liberals are back in the game and that Mulcair has not caught on fire yet.
DURHAM:
Party Votes %
Green Party Virginia Ervin 484 4.3
Liberal Grant Humes 1778 14.2
Christian Heritage Party Andrew Moriarity 181 1.5
NDP-New Democratic Party Larry O'Connor 3618 28.9
Conservative Erin O'Toole 6151 49.1
Total number of valid votes: 13,945
Polls reporting: 105/236Voter turnout: 13,945 of 95,296 registered electors (14.6%)
CALGARY CENTRE:
Candidate Party Votes %
Joan Crockatt Conservative 2308 36.9
Antoni Grochowski Independent 26 0.5
Harvey Locke Liberal 1981 31.8
Dan Meades NDP 357 5.7
Tony Prashad Libertarian 17 0.8
Chris Turner Green 1532 24.5
Total number of valid votes: 6,796 Polls reporting: 85/263Voter turnout: 6,796 of 93,984 registered electors (7.2%)
Gloater, you are such a jerk!
Arthur, you should apologize for that. That is name-calling, and really worthy of a moderator to tell you. I haven't called you names. And it's 'losing', by the way.
And if the Liberals finish a close 2nd to the CPC, that's almost as good as a win. It will be the NDP who have lost. Let's look at this objectively.
Do you actually have any friends Gloater?
The NDP is going to lose Durham. It's going to lose Durham badly. Yet with what's been learned (and achieved) in this byelection (the NDP vote went up by 10% for the second election in a row), the NDP is going to run much more effective campaign in dozens and dozens of previously Liberal-Conservative ridings. The NDP is literally going to push the Liberals off the (Ontario) electoral map. Just like they've done in much of Western Canada. The Liberals will be clinging to a few urban and suburban Ontario enclaves by the very skin of their teeth, while their poll numbers drop through the basement. Tonight the Liberals had their fun in Calgary but they will have hemorraghed even worse than the 2011pocalyse everywhere else.
You are so arrogant. You still haven't apologized to Jan for the abusive, demaning and patroning comments you aimed at here. You won't, because you aren't man enought to. I'll tell you what, you apologize to Jan and I'll apologize to you.
People in glass house much Debater?
In the real world Alberta belongs to the Cons.
And in the real world Ontario is required to defeat Harper and so far tonite the Liberals have failed miserably in that regard, as the NDP vote is almost double that of the Liberals in Durham, even with their next coronated leader Trudeau having visited the riding.
I would say so far it is a very bad nite for the Liberals.
Moral victory
Candidate Party Votes %
Green Party Donald Galloway 24 18.9
Conservative Dale Gann 41 32.3
Libertarian Art Lowe 2 1.6
Christian Heritage Philip G. Ney 2 1.6
NDP Murray Rankin 35 27.6
LiberalPaul Summerville 23 18.1
Total number of valid votes: 127
Polls reporting: 1/256
Voter turnout: 127 of 88,886 registered electors (0.1%)
Liberals in last place in BC
Even though the Liberals are rising in most of the National polls and are poised to increase their level of support in the next election?
If Justin Trudeau becomes Liberal leader, he has the potential to do well. I'm not saying he will become Prime Minister yet, but Mulcair is unlikely to do so either. The Conservatives know Trudeau is a threat - that's why they released an old interview last week before the Calgary by-election. They've seen his rising poll numbers.
"Tories target Trudeau as poll suggests his popularity keeps growing"
Conservatives have launched their first concerted attack on Justin Trudeau — and a new poll may explain why.
The Canadian Press Harris-Decima survey suggests the Liberal leadership front-runner's popularity is not the fleeting celebrity phenomenon that the skeptics had assumed.
It's actually increasing and has the potential to siphon off votes from all parties, including the Tories.
The poll was released Thursday just as the Conservatives pounced on a two-year-old television interview to accuse Trudeau of being anti-Alberta.
Forty-two per cent of respondents said they'd be certain or likely to vote Liberal in the next election if Trudeau was at the helm — enough to form a comfortable Liberal majority government.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/tories-target-trudeau-as-poll-su...
What did I say to Jan? I don't remember saying anything offensive.
And that still doesn't excuse your name-calling. It's immature to say that you think it's okay to do it because of some slight I supposedly made to someone else once.
" And it's 'losing', by the way".
Does it make you feel better correcting my grammar Debater?
Insecure much?
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In the real world Alberta basically belongs to the Cons.
And in the real world Ontario is required to defeat Harper and so far tonite the Liberals have failed miserably in that regard, as the NDP vote is almost double that of the Liberals in Durham, even with their next coronated leader Trudeau having visited the riding.
So far it is a very bad nite for the Liberals and we haven't even got to BC yet.
Oh come on Debater, you really think I believe you don't remember. I'd be pretty careful about calling anyone immature if I were you.
Tories target Trudeau as poll suggests his popularity keeps growing
Conservatives have launched their first concerted attack on Justin Trudeau — and a new poll may explain why.
The Canadian Press Harris-Decima survey suggests the Liberal leadership front-runner's popularity is not the fleeting celebrity phenomenon that the skeptics had assumed.
It's actually increasing and has the potential to siphon off votes from all parties, including the Tories.
The poll was released Thursday just as the Conservatives pounced on a two-year-old television interview to accuse Trudeau of being anti-Alberta.
Forty-two per cent of respondents said they'd be certain or likely to vote Liberal in the next election if Trudeau was at the helm — enough to form a comfortable Liberal majority government.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/tories-target-trudeau-as-poll-su...
Spin it all you like but there is no evidence of any resurgence for the Liberals who are third or fourth in Ontario, losing in Alberta, and are getting absolutely crushed in BC. So much for the "Trudeau" mythology.
Calgary Centre is the story of the night.
Btw, I think the Liberals have moved back into the lead in Calgary Centre. I'm getting some ground reports from the riding.
My favourite line of your defence was: "are poised to increase their level of support in the next election"
Did Karl Rove send them to you? I hear Ohio hasn't been called yet.
Because I'm being objective and saying I don't yet know what is going to happen in the next election - none of us does.
But the above poll certainly shows the potential for Liberal gains, doesn't it?
DURHAM:
Party Votes %
Green Party Virginia Ervin 906 4.2
Liberal Grant Humes 3507 16.3
Christian Heritage Party Andrew Moriarity 275 1.2
NDP-New Democratic Party Larry O'Connor 6078 27.0
Conservative Erin O'Toole 11409 50.9
Polls reporting: 180/236Voter turnout: 24,247 of 95,296 registered electors (25.4%)The number of registered electors shown in this table does not include electors who registered on election day.
CALGARY CENTRE:
Candidate Party Votes %
Joan Crockatt Conservative 3456 36.4
Antoni Grochowski Independent 54 0.4
Harvey Locke Liberal 3122 32.9
Dan Meades NDP 468 4.9
Tony Prashad Libertarian 53 0.5
Chris Turner Green 2730 25.9
Total number of valid votes: 10,555 Polls reporting: 121/263Voter turnout: 10,555 of 93,984 registered electors (11.2%
VICTORIA:
Candidate Party Votes %
Green Party Donald Galloway 432 35.1
Conservative Dale Gann 151 12.3
Libertarian Art Lowe 12 1.0
Christian Heritage Philip G. Ney 10 0.8
NDP Murray Rankin 476 38.7
LiberalPaul Summerville 153 12.2
Total number of valid votes: 1,231 Polls reporting: 11/256Voter turnout: 1,231 of 88,886 registered electors (1.4%)
Nope, unlike Karl Rove, I don't make things up. The people calling in data from polling stations are getting it before it goes on the Elections Canada website. So you should see the Conservative numbers narrow soon.
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aaronwherry
That Conservative lead in Calgary Centre is getting smaller:
https://twitter.com/aaronwherry/status/273273566814953472
"Because I'm being objective". Really Debater, you are a partisan and slanting it your way, how can you even make that kind of assertion?
Simple question: Why have the Trudeau Liberals failed so miserably in Ontario? And BC?
NDP numbers have shrunk somewhat in Durham, and Liberal numbers have grown slightly. Not particularly significant, but will affect the overall numbers. Conservatives over 50% there.
DURHAM [190/236]
Conservative - 50.6%
NDP - 26.7%
Liberal - 16.8%
http://enr.elections.ca/ElectoralDistricts_e.aspx
Greens doing better than expected in VICTORIA - now Tied with the NDP.
Liz May must be happy tonight!
GREENS narrowly ahead in VICTORIA !
Maybe Elizabeth May is going to be more successful than we previously thought. And the Greens are running a strong 3rd in Calgary Centre (and probably the reason Crockatt is narrowly ahead).
http://enr.elections.ca/ElectoralDistricts_e.aspx?ed=1245
Debater, http://rabble.ca/babble/canadian-politics/latest-polling-thread-june-18-.... Go look what you wrote about Jan. You know full well you wrote this.
Oh, and look at your posts above. Why should anyone treat you serioulsy. You love to gloat, don't you. Why are you even here?
Liberals tied with the Conservatives in VICTORIA.
LOL.
It does, but only if a handsome, unknown quantity becomes leader. To those that do know Jester Trudea, he is a gaffe-prone flake that thinks he can fake his way through all the speaking parts. I bid thee good luck Debator!
It'd be sickening if the Greens took Victoria. It would be a massive swing to the right and a mandate to do nothing about the sewage system. As far as I can see, the Greens made no positive promises in that riding at all.
Who knew Victoria residents would be this big on doing nothing about raw sewage?
I took a look - and guess what? I didn't call Jan any names or engage in any name-calling.
GREENS are having a big night - no doubt about it. Not in DURHAM, no, but they are having a major effect in both CALGARY CENTRE and VICTORIA. They are tied with the NDP in VICTORIA and may be throwing the election to the Conservatives in CALGARY CENTRE.
They may be emerging as a player whether the Liberals & NDP like it or not.
Not looking at all good for the Liberals as their vote has droped more than 50% in BC and is down in Ontatio as well.
Date / Event / Riding / NDP / Cons / Libs / Grns
2011 / GE / Durham / 21% / 55% / 18% / 5%
2012 / BY / Durham / 27% / 51% / 17% / 4%
2011 / GE / Calgary - Centre / 15% / 58% / 18% / 12%
2012 / BY / Calgary-Centre / 5% / 36% / 33% / 26%
2011 / GE / Victoria / 51% / 24% / 14% / 12%
2012 / BY / Victoria / 37% / 13% / 12% / 37%