Ouellet confirms he is a piece of crap: Papal contender says issue of women in church 'secondary'
Pope Benedict resigns...this is NOT a joke...Pope Benedict resigns
BREAKING NEWS - new Pope elected!
At least his homilies will be silent.
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Canadian Cardinal Marc Ouellet is among the “Dirty Dozen” of cardinals who should not be considered for pope, according to the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP).
SNAP, the largest U.S. advocacy group representing abuse victims, said the dozen would be “the worst choices in terms of protecting kids, healing victims and exposing corruption.”
Meanwhile:
A spokesman for Cardinal Ouellet said SNAP’s allegations against the cardinal were inaccurate and misleading.
Ha! Fucker isn't infallible yet, so I'll take the accusations as well-founded.
I wonder if during the conclave he will use SNAP's allegations as a selling point with the other Cardinals?
In Italian, il Gabinetto di avvocati Di Destra, Omofobo e Misogino.... Has a certain ring to it, non è vero?
Other than Mr Bean playing Cardinal O'Brien, Michel Piccoli as an unwilling Pope in the commedia all'italiana "Habemos Papam"...
In which I discover that the English version has the title "We Have a Pope". (In French, they kept the Latin title).
Election of new pope will be 'very unpredictable,' as cardinals seek answers on corruption
excerpt:
The Vatican’s administrative shortcomings were thrust into stark relief last year with the publication of documents stolen from Benedict XVI’s desk, which exposed the petty infighting, turf battles and allegations of corruption, nepotism and cronyism in the highest echelons of the Catholic Church.
excerpt:
Yet the first day of discussion was rocked by new revelations of scandal after Scottish Cardinal Keith O’Brien admitted that his “sexual conduct has fallen below the standards expected of me as a priest, archbishop and cardinal.”
O’Brien last week resigned as archbishop of St. Andrews and Edinburgh and said he wouldn’t participate in the conclave after four men came forward with allegations that he had acted inappropriately with them — the first time a cardinal has stayed away from a conclave because of personal scandal.
excerpt:
At a briefing discussing the priorities for the future pontificate, George said the next pope will have to follow canon law and keep priests who molested children out of parishes.
(bunch of hypocrites - recent popes and bishops simply moved molesting priests around from parish to parish, and gave a few the protection of the Vatican from prosecution)
excerpt:
Vigano’s letters to the pope were the most explosive leaks of documents last year; in them, Vigano pleaded with Benedict not to be transferred after exposing alleged corruption in the awarding of Vatican contracts that cost the Holy See millions of euros (dollars).
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In his new book “The Crisis of the Vatican Empire,” Franco paints a portrait of a Vatican completely falling apart, with financial scandals at its bank, backstabbing among its ruling class and the sex abuse scandal discrediting the church on the global stage.
“In a way the pope decided to sacrifice himself because he couldn’t change anything,” Franco said.
I wonder if during the conclave he will use SNAP's allegations as a selling point with the other Cardinals?
More importantly, will any of the cardinals get exasperated at the mention of the group's name and shout "Oh SNAP!"?
(admit it, we all WANT that to happen).
I most definitely do NOT want our homeboy Ouellet to become pope, though there was a funny traditional-style song this morning about what a great business opportunity it would be for the backwoods region he hails from (including a factory making plastic Jesuses).
There could be a joual translation of
Well, I don't care if it rains or freezes,
Long as I have my plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
Through all trials and tribulations,
We will travel every nation,
With my plastic Jesus I'll go far.
{Refrain}
Plastic Jesus, plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
Through all trials and tribulations,
We will travel every nation,
With my plastic Jesus I'll go far.
Here is good comedy version of that John Prine song. The intro and commentary in the song is hilarious. Maybe the company in Quebec could use it for their advertising.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRVK1FzC_Wk&playnext=1&list=PL6F01C9E655...
That is great. Since country-rock singer (and environmental activist) Richard Desjardins hails from the same region as Ouellet, he'd be a natural doing an Abitibian version of the plastic Jeebus song for the hypothetical Plastic Jesus factory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Desjardins
Here is a youtube of a comic (but very grave) country song by Desjardins in the same vein, though the country/working-class Québec French might be difficult to understand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjP2YtnNUoc
Here is a transcription of the lyrics:
À pêche j’me suis perdu
dans des ch’mins d’compagnies
Pus d’arbres à perte de vue
« Belle job ! » que j’me sus dit.
Fallait qu’j’me sorte de là
j’ai app’lé la Sepaq.
J’avais du temps d’vant moi
fait qu’j’ai vidé un lac.
Qu’est-cé que j’vois, l’Indien.
Pas d’bonne humeur pantoute
’ec les oreilles dans l’crin.
Y m’dit : « Tu détruis toute. »
Quand même ça s’ra ma faute,
qu’est-cé qu’tu veux qu’ça m’fasse ?
Si c’est pas moi c’t’un aut’
qui va l’faire à ma place.
Moi itou j’ai des enfants.
J’leu’ laisse des beaux restants.
Pis si sont pas contents
leu’ reste l’Agonistan.
« Pis toé, t’encore vivant ? »
Dis-toi qu’c’est mieux que rien.
Pis si t’es pas content
r’tourn donc d’où c’est que tu viens.
J’pille, j’pille, j’pille
Ben correct, ben correct.
J’pile, j’pile, j’pile.
Me d’mande quoi faire avec.
Moi j’en vois pas d’problème :
skidoo, seadoo, quat’roues
Chu dans « l’club des ben d’même ».
Des fioumes pis ben d’la broue.
C’est pas dans mes talents
d’expliquer l’existence.
Un cerveau à deux temps
ça pense pas, ça dépense.
Chu fier d’êt’ignorant,
c’est comme un droit acquis.
Pas besoin d’êt’ savant
quand t’as un’carte de crédit.
Pas d’farce moi j’ai deux bacs :
un bac vert, un bac bleu,
un pour les faces à claques
dans l’aut’ j’mets des quêteux.
Pis laisse-moi pas tout seul
avec un écolo.
Une coup’ de claques su’à yeule
pis ça va faire d’l’écho.
Y toff’ra pas une ronde.
Avec ses beaux discours
y voudrait sauver l’monde ? (ben)
Y va s’sauver tout court.
J’pille, j’pille, j’pille
Ben correct, ben correct.
J’pile, j’pile, j’pile.
Ché pus quoi faire avec.
Le développement durable
c’est pour ma grosse bedaine
Pis chu même pus capable
de m’voir le boute d’la graine.
***
Richard Desjardins, Auteur-compositeur-interprète
Well, I don't care if it rains or freezes,
Long as I have my plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
We grew up with a more gender-equal version. Right after the above-cited portion, we sang:
Went to the drive-in, it was scaryBut I had Magnetic Mary,
Stuck on to the dashboard of my car.
Ours was similar:
I don't care if it's dark and scary
'Cause I've got my Virgin Mary...
"Magnetic Mary" was in the full set of lyrics that I quoted the stanza from...it's just that I didn't want to quote the entire freaking song.
Ours was similar:
I don't care if it's dark and scary
'Cause I've got my Virgin Mary...
Drive-in movie theatres were banned in Québec for decades - not sure when the ban was lifted, but it was certainly sometime after the Quiet Revolution - because the Catholic Church had correctly divined what went on there... And being the guardians of virtue, they weren't taking a back seat to anyone!
That's probably why you didn't have the drive-in reference in your version.
If they abolished celibacy, would the Pope still be inphallible?
I have Tom Lehrer's greatest hits, with the Vatican Rag. It's an oldie but goodie.
Jason Kenney on QP this morning praising Ouellet to the skies. Big surprise.
Yes I feel the love coming from Jason all the time. He is a great role model for catholic youth everywhere. So is his hero Cardinal Aloysius Stepinac.
I'm sure Kenney has leadership aspirations. He says the election of Ouellet will result in a religious earthquake in Canada, driving the church back into relevance.
Pope Ouellet will probably be the death of the church, and Conservative Leader Kenney will probably kill the Conservatives. One can only hope.
I see an odds maker has Richard Dawkins 666 to 1
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics-and-election/next-pope/winner
If they abolished celibacy, would the Pope still be inphallible?
not sure about that...but he'd probably be impregnable.
Least Popular Pope Names(from The Onion) :
http://www.theonion.com/articles/least-popular-pope-names,31563/
Thousands of Dutch Girls Abused by Priests Since 1945: Report
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/03/11/293085/priests-abused-thousands...
"Thousands of Dutch girls have suffered sexual and physical abuse by Roman Catholic Church officials since 1945, a report says..."
Clergy Sexual Misconduct
http://www.baylor.edu/clergysexualmisconduct/index.php?id=64401
"Largest national (US) study of clergy, sexual misconduct with adults: More common than previously thought, occurs across denominations and religions..."
A tweet recently posted:
Pink smoke coming from the Sistine Chapel, "It's Raining Men" heard blaring from Vatican cassette player
Here is cartoon in much the same vein.
Habemus Papem!
They say that if it were a quick election, that likely points to Cardinal Angelo Scola of Milan, who was seen as the safe, consensus pick.
Say what you will against the Vatican, they've got one helluva costume department.
Pope Francis, formerly Jorge Mario Bergoglio, of Argentina.
Seems like another conservative, in the Ratzinger mold. And at 76, probably another short termer.
Are there any Cardinals that aren't conservative especially on issues like abortion and homosexuality? I like the fact that he actually seems to have lived a modest existence even after being elevated to Cardinal.
He's the first Jesuit Pope, apparently, they being arguably the most liberal order(not at all beloved by the late JPII). He seems pretty personally conservative, though, from what I've just been reading.
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The new Vatican theme song.
Say what you will against the Vatican, they've got one helluva costume department.
Time to dust this off gain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYzRL9YIswQ
The sins of the Argentinian church http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2011/jan/04/argenitina-vi...
Meet the new pope. Same as the old pope.
I love the fact that the new Pope from the New World is a son of Italian immigrants. If you had to get an "non-European" an Italian settler seems like a logical choice.
Is it true he had to pass a "no Indigenous blood" test?
Pass it on.
Hey, I heard they elected a liberation theologian who supports gay marriage and women in the priesthood!
Oh wait, no, that was in an alternate universe.
The obvious question about a pope from Argentina is...what was he up to during the fascist "Dirty War"?
Here's at least a partial answer. He sure wasn't an Oscar Romero. I'm sure more will come out over the next few weeks.
Romero started out as a very conservative Bishop but he had his eyes opened and was murdered because he refused to be silent after his epiphany. Pope Francis either never had his eyes opened or he was so bereft of the Holy Spirit that he said nothing preferring silence to risking his own well being.
"Brothers, you came from our own people. You are killing your own brothers. Any human order to kill must be subordinate to the law of God, which says, 'Thou shalt not kill'. No soldier is obliged to obey an order contrary to the law of God. No one has to obey an immoral law. It is high time you obeyed your consciences rather than sinful orders. The church cannot remain silent before such an abomination. ...In the name of God, in the name of this suffering people whose cry rises to heaven more loudly each day, I implore you, I beg you, I order you: stop the repression"
- Oscar Romero March 23, 1980
Holocaust survivors denounce pope’s Croatia statement 2011
BELGRADE, WASHINGTON — The American Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors on June 6 blasted Pope Benedict XVI over his statement about WW2 Croatian Cardinal Alojzije Stepinac.
The spiritual leader of the Roman Catholics claimed during his visit to Zagreb that Stepinac – tried and found guilty of collaboration with the fascist Ustasha regime of the Independent State of Croatia (NDH) – was a defender of Jews, Orthodox Christians and anyone under persecution.
That regime ran death camps, including the largest – Jasenovac, where Serbs, but also Jews and Roma, were slaughtered.
Stepinac, beatified by Pope John Paul II in 1998, is an “adored personage in Croatia”, according to a Beta report, citing AFP.
He was another good Pope. Good for nothing.
Pope Francis I: Bergoglio Has Ties To A Dark Period For The Catholic Church
Bergoglio contended to writer Sergio Rubin that he hid these people to keep them from the violent military junta, not the Human Rights Commission — even as his Jesuit order and Church leaders publicly endorsed the dictatorship.
He later said the endorsement was one of political pragmatism, which is understandable in the face of certain death, if not exactly righteous, according to the AP.
Bergoglio also faced criticism from human rights lawyer Myriam Bregman, who tried to bring the Catholic leader to court for allegedly turning over two priests to Argentine death squads — charges which others have denied.
In any case Bregman sees evidence in Bergoglio’s statements that he knew of the dictatorship’s crimes. “The dictatorship could not have operated this way without this key support,” she said, according to the AP.
Where do they get these fascist motherfuckers?
Historically, its often been the case that questions such as 'what did he know and when did he know it,' surface nearer toward the end of a person's tenure.