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Edward Snowden asylum in Russia

Snowden Granted 1-Year Asylum in Russia (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/snowden-entry-papers-russia-902/

"NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden has been granted temporary asylum in Russia and is allowed to enter the country's territory.

His present location has not been made public nor will it be disclosed..."

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ikosmos ikosmos's picture

The pathetic whining by the Yanqui Empire is touching. They had to explicitly state that they would not torture or summarily execute or have Snowden "shot while attempting to escape". Nobody believes them anyway.

Despite the fact that Putin relies on the political support of the homophobic Orthodox Church, he has the support of the majority of the Russian public in giving Snowden sanctuary. Furthermore, for some time now, the Putin government has come to the conclusion that they are not getting anything from their relationship with the USA.

They tried to have the Boston terrorist extradited ... but, since he was only killing Russians to that point, the Americans said no. Smart move, Uncle Sam. lol. Idiots. Their Russophobia  and Cold War bumbling is killing Americans. Then there is the placing of new missiles in Europe, aimed at ...? Nobody believes the American lies that they are not aimed at Russia. Then there is the matter of goading the sociopath in Georgia, Saakashvili, with a billion a year in military "aid" to attack Ossetia in 2008. And above it all, the unrelenting low boil campaign of attacking Putin as undemocratic, yadda yadda. Nobody serious denies that Putin still has strong support. 

However, for his own reasons, and because he can, and because by giving sanctuary the Putin government can exert some influence over Snowden, they're happy to urinate in Uncle Sam's face.

I must admit it's highly entertaining, worthy of emulation at every opportunity, and primae facie evidence that the Empire is in decline. Expect more of the same. 

 

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'No Plan to Leave Russia': Snowden Has Job Offer, Awaits Reunion With Family, Girlfriend (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/snowden-russia-kucherena-mills-914/

"Edward Snowden will be entitled to Russian citizenship after spending five years in the country.."

 

White House 'Extremely Disappointed' With Snowden Asylum

http://rt.com/usa/white-house-snowden-asylum-918/

"...US Senator John McCain expressed his outrage with Snowden's Russian asylum and demanded Washington re-examine its relations with Moscow and 'strip away the illusions that many Americans have had about Russia.'

"Russia's action today is a disgrace and a deliberate effort to embarass the United States,' he said. 'It is a slap in the face of all Americans. Now is the time to fundamentally rethink our relationship with Putin's Russia..."

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

McCain is most definately a war mongerer but also a blow hard....Let's rekindle the Cold War....Brilliant.

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Obama Cancels Moscow Meeting with Putin Over Snowden

http://rt.com/news/obama-putin-snowden-meeting-176/

"President Barack Obama has canceled a meeting with President Vladimir Putin in Moscow which was scheduled for September. The move comes after Russia's recent decision to grant temporary asylum to NSA leaker Edward Snowden..."

Rikardo

I don't  agree that we should celebrate this.  I'm glad Snowdon made his revelations.  I know that during the USSR almost any Russian could be welcomed to the USA, even Nazi war criminals.  But do we want to provoke the new Cold Warriers in the USA?

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Snowden Ready to Go to Germany Under Asylum As His Letter To Berlin Revealed

http://rt.com/news/snowden-letter-germany-asylum-091/

"NSA whistleblower, Edward Snowden, is ready to go to Germany and testify over US wiretapping of Angela Merkel's phone on condition of granting him political asylum, a German MP who met Snowden has said.

He also revealed the text of Snowden's letter..."

Noops

NDPP wrote:

Snowden Ready to Go to Germany Under Asylum As His Letter To Berlin Revealed

http://rt.com/news/snowden-letter-germany-asylum-091/.

 

Interesting new twist to the Snowden saga.

Many of the commenters to the article have got it right.

Although Germany might seem more alluring to Snowden than Russia right now, he could be making a grave mistake by going there.

 

cco

Yeah, I'm thinking going to a country with multiple American military bases and open borders that'd be easy to slip him across after a snatch-and-grab might not be a smart move for him.

6079_Smith_W

It's a tossup. In Russia he is there at Vladimir Putin's pleasure, and if that ever changes, he's done for. As well, I wouldn't say things are all that secure there either. If there was a strong desire to kill or kidnap someone, why would it be so much more difficult in Russia?

Noops

6079_Smith_W wrote:

It's a tossup. In Russia he is there at Vladimir Putin's pleasure, and if that ever changes, he's done for. As well, I wouldn't say things are all that secure there either. If there was a strong desire to kill or kidnap someone, why would it be so much more difficult in Russia?

 

As strange as it may seem, Russia is perhaps the safest country for Snowden to be in right now.

As long as he doesn't stir things up with the U.S., as stipulated by Putin, Snowden is in safe hands in Russia.

 

It seems he has made the right decision re: Germany.

According to the BBC:

"Mr Snowden's lawyer said there could be a meeting with German investigators in Moscow, but not Germany."

6079_Smith_W

Perhaps.

I'd still say it's a tossup, if that. And that's not saying that I think Germany is all that much safer.

Only that his survival in Russia depends entirely on how valuable he is to the current leader.

Remember the veiled threat Putin made when Snowden was first invited in?

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/hendrikhertzberg/2013/07/devilishl...

If things change just enough that he is more valuable as a bargaining chip, then that is what he will be.

And besides, remember the 2002 Moscow theatre hostage taking? If Chechen rebels can pull that off, I am sure the U.S. can do a good deal more.

And if they actually had to cause an international incident, whom do you think they'd care more about pissing off?

 

 

 

mmphosis
monty1

Always wondered if the Russians turned Snowden. When the US were the good guy they were successful in turning Russians but those days are gone. There has to be 'some' Americans who are turned for ideological reasons. Most of us understand why Americans would choose to do so. Snowden's final destination could have been Russia all along but it's in Russia's best interest to keep that undercover. Or at least try to, because this planned kidnapping of Snowden shows clearly that they are literally ------ their pants over it

kropotkin1951

monty1 wrote:

Always wondered if the Russians turned Snowden. When the US were the good guy they were successful in turning Russians but those days are gone.

Please elaborate on when in its history the US was the "good guy."

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Exclusive: Edward Snowden's Full Interview With France 24

https://youtu.be/e-5KFP-BKr8

New interview with Snowden. Cites Canada's Bill C-51 as major example of infringement on freedom of speech and privacy. Also explains why so little of his material has thus far been released. 'In the hands of journalists'.

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VIDEO: Interview with Edward Snowden on Silicon Valley Censorship, Biden, and Lurking Press Freedom Dangers

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/video-interview-with-edward-snowden

"On Monday I spoke with Snowden for a special episode of SYSTEM UPDATE, for roughly 40 minutes about the growing danger of Silicon Valley censorship, why a tech industry that never wanted the power of responsibililty to regulate discourse has had that obligation foisted upon them by politicians and journalists, the lurking dangers to press freedoms, and how a Biden/Harris administration may make all of this worse."

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Edward Snowden: The Insecurity Industry [MUST READ!]

https://edwardsnowden.substack.com/p/ns-oh-god-how-is-this-legal

"...In my infinite optimism, however, I can't help but regard the arrival of the Pegasus Project as a turning-point. An industry like this, whose sole purpose is the production of vulnerability, should be dismantled. Where there is no liability, there is no accountability. And this brings us to the State..."

Pegasus. What will they think of next? From Canada's friend Israel of course.