Netanyahu: 'Take Off the Gloves' and 'Go All the Way' -- Israel attacks Gaza

Sun, 2014-07-27 11:35

Stockholm

Just a few short years ago Hamas was sending suicide bombers into Israel and killing hundreds of Israelis . The only reason they aren't still doing it is that Israel has built a wall and developed better intelligence to prevent such atrocities.

There is another thing people in Gaza could do. They could throw out Hamas and elect people who are willing to negotiate and then sit down and negotiate a peace treaty. OR Palestinians always have the so called nuclear option of demanding incorporation into Israel and the right to vote in. Israeli elections...which would be almost give Palestinians a majority in the Knesset

Sun, 2014-07-27 13:02

#103

bekayne

I'm curious, since there has been no response: are people here ok with what's written in Article 22?

Sun, 2014-07-27 13:10

#104

onlinediscountanvils

bekayne wrote:
I'm curious, since there has been no response: are people here ok with what's written in Article 22?

Article 22 of what?

Sun, 2014-07-27 14:27

#105

josh

Stockholm wrote:
Just a few short years ago Hamas was sending suicide bombers into Israel and killing hundreds of Israelis . The only reason they aren't still doing it is that Israel has built a wall and developed better intelligence to prevent such atrocities.

There is another thing people in Gaza could do. They could throw out Hamas and elect people who are willing to negotiate and then sit down and negotiate a peace treaty. OR Palestinians always have the so called nuclear option of demanding incorporation into Israel and the right to vote in. Israeli elections...which would be almost give Palestinians a majority in the Knesset

Hamas offered Israel a 10- year truce. Israel refused to reciprocate.

The Arab League offered Israel full recognition and peace in return for
going back to the '67 borders. Israel refused to reciprocate and sit down with them.

Israel is not interested in peace with justice, only the peace of continued occupation and submission to its dictates.

Mon, 2014-07-28 01:46

#106

NDPP

Gaza and 'Guernica' (photos)

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/gaza-and-guernica.html

Canada's New Democratic Party Supports Israeli War Crimes - by Carl Bronski

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/26/cana-j26.html

"As the death toll in Gaza continues to mount, Canada's social democratic New Democratic Party (NDP) has come under increasing criticism for its failure to denounce the murderous assault being carried out by the Israeli government.

Mulcair's stance earned him praise from the neo-conservative, rabidly pro-Zionist National Post.

'The current round of hostilities in Gaza suggest a New Democratic Party that has matured,' declared Post columnist John Ivison...."

Mon, 2014-07-28 10:48

#107

Stockholm

Hmmm...the President of the Green Party posts a ringing 100% endorsement of everything Isreal is doing in Gaza and in some ways sounds more pro-Israel than even Harper!

http://www.greenparty.ca/blogs/20430/2014-07-25/why-gaza-makes-me-sad

Mon, 2014-07-28 11:17

#108

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Stockholm wrote:

Hmmm...the President of the Green Party posts a ringing 100% endorsement of everything Isreal is doing in Gaza and in some ways sounds more pro-Israel than even Harper!

http://www.greenparty.ca/blogs/20430/2014-07-25/why-gaza-makes-me-sad

We don't have a federal political party that will criticize Israel.

The Israeli lobby is more powerful than our own governments.

Ottawa is simply an Israeli embassy.

Mon, 2014-07-28 12:31

#109

Stockholm

We should not preclude the possibility that the federal parties are saying what their leaders and leading figures personally believe and this has nothing to do with the so-called "Israel lobby"

Mon, 2014-07-28 12:34

#110

Mr.Tea

MegB wrote:

For every Israeli death there are dozens of Palestinian deaths. Not a battle of equals. Israel specifically targets children. Gaza, Hamas, does not.

Are you out of your fucking mind? Hamas and other Palestinian terrorist groups routinely launch rockets into Israeli civilian areas, including schools and residential neighbourhoods. They've also blown up buses, restaurants, religious services, etc. full of civilians including many children. Not to mention using PALESTINIAN children as human shields.

As for the disproportionate death toll, it is not a reflection of Hamas' restraint, just Israel's superior ability to defend itself. The STATED GOAL of Hamas is the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jewish people. That they're not particularly competent at achieving said goal hardly warrants a gold star for principled moral positioning. Make no mistake. THey'd kill every man, woman and child in Israel if they could.

Now, Israel actually IS capable of killing every man, woman and child in Gaza if it so desired. The fact that the population of Gaza has DOUBLED over the last couple decades and is expected to again double over the next couple decades either makes this a completely incompetent "genocide" or just exposes that blood libel as the dubious lie that it is.

Mon, 2014-07-28 12:38

#111

Slumberjack

So we'll mark you two schmuks down as supporters and defenders of genocidal collective punishment, as if we didn't know that to be the case already.

Mon, 2014-07-28 12:43

#112

Mr.Tea

I just exposed the "genocide" charge as being completely ridiculous. You, on the other hand, perhaps stand with Hamas, a true genocidal organization. If you're into simplistic bullshit and silly accusations, I'm happy to engage with you on that level. If you'd like a reasonable, level-headed discussion that actually values facts over rhetoric, I'd be happy to engage in that as well....

Mon, 2014-07-28 12:45

#113

Mr.Tea

Stockholm wrote:

We should not preclude the possibility that the federal parties are saying what their leaders and leading figures personally believe and this has nothing to do with the so-called "Israel lobby"

There really is no powerful "Israel lobby" in Canada. In the states, there certainly is where the nature of their legislative system makes courting individual representatives and senators a major endeavour and where money in politics has gotten out of hand and politicians will pander for money. Not the case in Canada.

Mon, 2014-07-28 12:45

#114

Mr.Tea

Stockholm wrote:

We should not preclude the possibility that the federal parties are saying what their leaders and leading figures personally believe and this has nothing to do with the so-called "Israel lobby"

There really is no powerful "Israel lobby" in Canada. In the states, there certainly is where the nature of their legislative system makes courting individual representatives and senators a major endeavour and where money in politics has gotten out of hand and politicians will pander for money. Not the case in Canada.

Mon, 2014-07-28 12:56

#115

Slumberjack

Mr.Tea wrote:
I just exposed the "genocide" charge as being completely ridiculous. You, on the other hand, perhaps stand with Hamas, a true genocidal organization. If you're into simplistic bullshit and silly accusations, I'm happy to engage with you on that level. If you'd like a reasonable, level-headed discussion that actually values facts over rhetoric, I'd be happy to engage in that as well....

Understand that you don't get to claim 'reasonable' while supporting the State of Israel in it's latest round of atrocities. Fact is, Gazans were herded into that concentration camp and have been locked up inside and surrounded ever since for objecting to the dispossession of their lands.

Mon, 2014-07-28 13:00

#116

Mr.Tea

When did I ever express "support" for what Israel is doing? My problem with debates on Israel in general (as you're proving) is that it's become next to impossible to have a reasonable discussion because extremists on both sides of the debate portray it in such a cartoonish way where the other side resemble comic book villains and the other are pure and heroic. It's a lot more complicated than that. Both sides have grievances. Both sides have committed atrocities. Most reasonable people want peace for both sides.

Mon, 2014-07-28 13:00

#117

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

I stand up for Palestine,not Hamas.

Over 1 000 Palestinian deaths so far compared with 45 (mostly soldiers) Israeli deaths.

Who should have the right to protect themselves?

Oh yeah,I forgot..Israel is the victim and any criticism is simply anti-semitism..Ooookay then.

Mon, 2014-07-28 13:09

#118

Slumberjack

Mr.Tea wrote:
When did I ever express "support" for what Israel is doing? My problem with debates on Israel in general (as you're proving) is that it's become next to impossible to have a reasonable discussion because extremists on both sides of the debate portray it in such a cartoonish way where the other side resemble comic book villains and the other are pure and heroic. It's a lot more complicated than that. Both sides have grievances. Both sides have committed atrocities. Most reasonable people want peace for both sides.

When we're talking about something completely unreasonable, which is to say the daily life of Palestinian civilians under the boot heel of a conqueror, unreasonable things are bound to be mentioned as they occur, which is daily life for the occupied in and of itself, punctuated by spikes in merciless violence against everyone living there under occupation. When you come here and use Hamas as the proxy for everything Israel is doing to the Palestinian population, as Israel itself does, then you are speaking from the same talking points sheet as an Israeli spokesperson would do.

Mon, 2014-07-28 13:10

#119

Slumberjack

Stockholm wrote:
We should not preclude the possibility that the federal parties are saying what their leaders and leading figures personally believe and this has nothing to do with the so-called "Israel lobby"

Which would make them all more as object of contempt, if any more were possible.

Mon, 2014-07-28 13:13

#120

Slumberjack

For the life of me I can't fathom how or why Holocaust survivors and their decendents could so easily come to terms with what has been wrought upon the non-Jewish residents of the lands in question.

Mon, 2014-07-28 13:15

#121

Slumberjack

Mr.Tea wrote:
When did I ever express "support" for what Israel is doing?

Then denounce it!

Mon, 2014-07-28 13:17

#122

josh

Stockholm wrote:

We should not preclude the possibility that the federal parties are saying what their leaders and leading figures personally believe and this has nothing to do with the so-called "Israel lobby"

LOL.

Good one.

Mon, 2014-07-28 13:19

#123

Mr.Tea

Slumberjack wrote:

Mr.Tea wrote:
When did I ever express "support" for what Israel is doing?

Then denounce it!

I'll denounce the occupation and the blockade and the humanitarian crisis. Now, how about you denounce the indiscriminate firing of rockets from Gaza into Israel?

And how about publicly SUPPORTING the right of Israel to exist in peace and security with its neighbours.

Deal?

Mon, 2014-07-28 13:21

#124

josh

Mr.Tea wrote:

MegB wrote:

For every Israeli death there are dozens of Palestinian deaths. Not a battle of equals. Israel specifically targets children. Gaza, Hamas, does not.

Are you out of your fucking mind? Hamas and other Palestinian terrorist groups routinely launch rockets into Israeli civilian areas, including schools and residential neighbourhoods. They've also blown up buses, restaurants, religious services, etc. full of civilians including many children. Not to mention using PALESTINIAN children as human shields.

As for the disproportionate death toll, it is not a reflection of Hamas' restraint, just Israel's superior ability to defend itself. The STATED GOAL of Hamas is the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jewish people. That they're not particularly competent at achieving said goal hardly warrants a gold star for principled moral positioning. Make no mistake. THey'd kill every man, woman and child in Israel if they could.

Now, Israel actually IS capable of killing every man, woman and child in Gaza if it so desired. The fact that the population of Gaza has DOUBLED over the last couple decades and is expected to again double over the next couple decades either makes this a completely incompetent "genocide" or just exposes that blood libel as the dubious lie that it is.

The only blood libel is the shit pouring out of your post.

Israel hasn't killed every resident of Gaza? Wonderful. Human shields? So if Hamas were to move its weapons to non-civilian areas, would Israel promise not to attackk them? Genocide of the Jewish people? Another lie. Hamas has offered Israel a 10-year truce. Which, like the Arab League peace inititative of 2002, Israel has not responded to.

Mon, 2014-07-28 13:32

#125

Slumberjack

I'm not one to so casually place that cart before the horse. There shouldn't be any rockets flying in any direction, but the issue of occupation and autonomy and the lack of desire for a proper and comprehensive peace settlement informs actions such as this. They certainly do not occur in a vacuum as if it is being done for kicks, like it's often described to us. Your requirement for a pre-condition before you will acknowledge right and wrong is a bit more nuanced than the Israeli demand for full and unconditional subjugation, but at bottom it does mirror elements of the Israeli international propaganda compaign, in that it expects full subjugation of the Palestianian population to their fate as its determined by the occupier. Why is it that you fools never like to talk about occupation, land dispossession, expansion of settlements, and the daily heel of the conqueror?

Mon, 2014-07-28 13:34

#126

Mr.Tea

Hamas' own charter explicitly rejects the concept of peaceful coexistence or even negotiation. So, they can make all the phony ceasefire proposals they wish. It rings pretty hollow when they also say things like: "“There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”

Mon, 2014-07-28 13:43

#127

Slumberjack

Mr.Tea wrote:
Hamas' own charter explicitly rejects the concept of peaceful coexistence or even negotiation. So, they can make all the phony ceasefire proposals they wish. It rings pretty hollow when they also say things like: "“There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”

From history we learn that many people turn ever more to religion in their most desperate and perilous hours. Jihad has many meanings apart from the one you seem to have taken from the western media stenography. It could simply refer to the will to endure the unendurable. And I suppose from their perspective, with peace talks and concurrent settlement expansion and blockade, that international conferences are in fact a dead end cover while all of that continues unabated. You are just talking jibberish as if it made any sense at all, and expect that it be taken as reason.

Mon, 2014-07-28 13:43

#128

josh

Gee, Likud's charter has never recognized the right of a Palestinian state.

And yes, every offer from the other side is phony. Can't trust those Arabs.

And still waiting for your answer on the Hamas weapons question.

Mon, 2014-07-28 13:45

#129

Mr.Tea

josh wrote:

Gee, Likud's charter has never recognized the right of a Palestinian state.

And when Israelis reject Likud and Palestinians reject Hamas, we'll be closer to peace.

I've been to both Israel and the Palestinian territories. I've met and drank tea and smoked hookah and had very thoughtful discussions with wonderful people on both sides of the conflict. I think the average person on both sides wants the same thing most of us want: to be able to live in peace and security, have a career, raise a family, etc. Unfortunately, the debate (and policy) is being driven by extremists on both sides who seek to cement power by fostering conflict.

Mon, 2014-07-28 13:53

#130

Slumberjack

Mr.Tea wrote:
Unfortunately, the debate (and policy) is being driven by extremists on both sides who seek to cement power by fostering conflict.

Occupation is the 'fostering' of conflict. Everything that follows is resistance, as Georges Guingouin and Marek Edelman believed.

Mon, 2014-07-28 14:07

#131

Stockholm

alan smithee wrote:

I stand up for Palestine,not Hamas.

I stand up for the existence of Israel - not for Netanyahu or his horrible Likud party.

Mon, 2014-07-28 14:13

#132

josh

5 Israeli talking points. Debunked.

http://m.thenation.com/article/180783-five-israeli-talking-points-gaza-debunked

Mon, 2014-07-28 14:20

#133

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Stockholm wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

I stand up for Palestine,not Hamas.

I stand up for the existence of Israel - not for Netanyahu or his horrible Likud party.

Then we can agree. Netanyahoo and the Likuds are every bit as extremist as Hamas (possibly more)

Mon, 2014-07-28 14:23

#134

Mr.Tea

Slumberjack wrote:

Mr.Tea wrote:
Unfortunately, the debate (and policy) is being driven by extremists on both sides who seek to cement power by fostering conflict.

Occupation is the 'fostering' of conflict. Everything that follows is resistance, as Georges Guingouin and Marek Edelman believed.

Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza almost 10 years ago. Even without that occupation, thousands of missiles were still routinely launched at Israeli civilians from Gaza. Parts of the West Bank remain under occupation yet you don't see anything close to the same level of terrorism being launched from those regions. Partly, because they're not governed by an explicitly genocidal terrorist organization.

Mon, 2014-07-28 14:55

#135

josh

From the article I posted above:

Israel argues that its occupation of the Gaza Strip ended with the unilateral withdrawal of its settler population in 2005. It then declared the Gaza Strip to be "hostile territory" and declared war against its population. Neither the argument nor the statement is tenable. Despite removing 8,000 settlers and the military infrastructure that protected their illegal presence, Israel maintained effective control of the Gaza Strip and thus remains the occupying power as defined by Article 47 of the Hague Regulations. To date, Israel maintains control of the territory's air space, territorial waters, electromagnetic sphere, population registry and the movement of all goods and people.

. . . .

Palestinians have yet to experience a day of self-governance. Israel immediately imposed a siege upon the Gaza Strip when Hamas won parliamentary elections in January 2006 and tightened it severely when Hamas routed Fatah in June 2007. The siege has created a "humanitarian catastrophe" in the Gaza Strip. Inhabitants will not be able to access clean water, electricity or tend to even the most urgent medical needs. The World Health Organization explains that the Gaza Strip will be unlivable by 2020. Not only did Israel not end its occupation, it has created a situation in which Palestinians cannot survive in the long-term

Mon, 2014-07-28 15:22

#136

Unionist

Mr.Tea wrote:

Now, Israel actually IS capable of killing every man, woman and child in Gaza if it so desired.

That's right, just as the U.S. could have won in Vietnam etc. if it wasn't fighting with one hand tied behind its back. Fucking pacifists wouldn't let the military do their thing.

Thank God Israeli Jews aren't all on Mr. Tea's team. That's the only hope for Israel's survival. Please watch this courageous 19-year-old "refusenik" who expects to be jailed today for not showing up to enlist. It's only 4 minutes long. But it captures the finest in millennia of Jewish tradition, and hopefully it also captures our future:

[url=http://youtu.be/a_0mEbyz54Q?list=UUZARCDxAhgwiktLLOrjLuaA]"I Refuse", by Udi Segal[/url]

Mon, 2014-07-28 15:52

#137

NDPP

RT: '...Hamas is now alone and it looks like Israel sees this as an opportunity to get rid of their greatest nemesis...'

Norman Finkelstein: ...But you have to understand why Hamas is their greatest nemesis. Hamas is their greatest nemesis because they formed a unity government with the Palestinian Authority.

Hamas is their greatest nemesis because Hamas agreed to the conditions set forth by the EU and the US for negotiations. Hamas is their greatest nemesis because the US and EU agreed to negotiate with this new unity government.

Hamas is their greatest enemy because Hamas was so weak, as you correctly put it, that it was now being forced into a position where together with the Palestinian Authority it would negotiate a 'reasonable' settlement of the conflict.

And that's the thing that President Netanyahu, like Israel's leaderships of the past, have always dreaded. That's why they coined the phrase 'these Palestinian peace-initiatives'. Israel doesn't know what to do when the Palestinians are ready to negotiate.

So it does what it always does. It pounds them..."

CrossTalk: Target Gaza - Dan Arkell, Norman Finkelstein and Mouin Rabbani

http://youtu.be/URIzjnD8zXY

Atrocities in Gaza Once Again Exposed Israel to the World: Activist (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/07/28/373148/gaza-killings-exposed-is...

"The groups like Hamas or Islamic Jihad and the resistance as a whole, did not cause this problem. It was the occupation which created the problem, which people have actually had to stand up to and resist.

Any human being will do that and to try to blame atrocities or the behavior of the Israelis on Hamas or on Palestinians is outrageous.

This sort of atrocity by Zionist Israel was taking place from the outset, from 1948 years ago when there was no Hamas and there was no resistance. People were being massacred, moved around and ethnically cleansed..."

US Government Backs Some War Crimes, Not Others - by William Boardman

http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/07/u-s-government-backs-some-war-crimes-n...

"What's happening these days in both Ukraine and Gaza shares some ugly and dangerous aspects. In both places, quasi-proxies of the United States are on the offensive. The Kiev government's assault on separatist-held areas has been as lethal for civilians as Israel's assault on Gaza (but the war in Ukraine goes almost unreported).

Both the governments of Ukraine and Israel prefer to use force against weaker opponents, rather than mediating long-standing, legitimate issues on both sides. Both Ukraine and Israel are protected by the same patron, the US government, with its apparent determination to dominate both regions, at whatever human cost is necessary for those who live there..."

Mon, 2014-07-28 17:39

#138

Catchfire

Reading Mr. Tea's posts in this thread really bring me back to the old days when we had a Middle East forum specifically for times like these.

Tue, 2014-07-29 04:07

#139

NDPP

Expel Palestinians, Populate Gaza With Jews, Says Knesset Deputy Speaker

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/expel-palestinians-popu...

"Israel must attack Gaza more mercilessly, expel the population and resettle the territory with Jews, the deputy speaker of Israel's parliament, the Knesset has said.

Moshe Feiglin demands that Israel launch attacks ' throughout Israel with the IDF's maximum force with all the conventional means at its disposal.

'After the IDF completes the 'softening' of the targets with its firepower, the IDF will conquer the entire Gaza, using all the means necessary to minimize any harm to our soldiers, with no other considerations.'

'Following the reconquest, Israel's army 'will thoroughly eliminate all armed enemies from Gaza. The enemy population that is innocent of wrongdoing and separated itself from the armed terrorists will be treated in accordance with international law and will be allowed to leave,' Feiglin writes.

'Gaza is part of our Land and we will remain there forever,' Feiglin concludes. 'Subsequent to the elimination of terror from Gaza, it will become part of sovereign Israel and will be populated by Jews. This will also serve to ease the housing crisis in Israel..."

Your tax dollars, JNF donations etc and all of Canada's other 'gifts' to support Israel are hard at work tonight in Gaza. Take a look, it's your nickel friend

LIVE FROM GAZA

http://12160.info/page/live-from-gaza

BC Premier Stands With Israel

http://www.cija.ca/canadian-politics/bc-premier-stands-with-israel/

"Israel has the right to defend itself against terrorist attacks. I'm proud that British Columbia can be counted on as a friend of Israel."

How the west was won then zionized from sea to shining sea

Tue, 2014-07-29 04:08

#140

NDPP

Israel Intensifies Gaza Shelling, Warns of 'Protracted Campaign' (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/176260-idf-intensifies-gaza-strikes/

Tue, 2014-07-29 10:56

#141

josh

If you voted for Hamas, you deseve to die, says this man of the cloth.

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/israel-leader-rabbis.html

Does the same hold true for those who voted for the Likud?

Tue, 2014-07-29 11:22

#142

Geoff

NDPP wrote:

Expel Palestinians, Populate Gaza With Jews, Says Knesset Deputy Speaker

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/expel-palestinians-popu...

"Israel must attack Gaza more mercilessly, expel the population and resettle the territory with Jews, the deputy speaker of Israel's parliament, the Knesset has said.

Moshe Feiglin demands that Israel launch attacks ' throughout Israel with the IDF's maximum force with all the conventional means at its disposal.

'After the IDF completes the 'softening' of the targets with its firepower, the IDF will conquer the entire Gaza, using all the means necessary to minimize any harm to our soldiers, with no other considerations.'

'Following the reconquest, Israel's army 'will thoroughly eliminate all armed enemies from Gaza. The enemy population that is innocent of wrongdoing and separated itself from the armed terrorists will be treated in accordance with international law and will be allowed to leave,' Feiglin writes.

'Gaza is part of our Land and we will remain there forever,' Feiglin concludes. 'Subsequent to the elimination of terror from Gaza, it will become part of sovereign Israel and will be populated by Jews. This will also serve to ease the housing crisis in Israel..."

Your tax dollars, JNF donations etc and all of Canada's other 'gifts' to support Israel are hard at work tonight in Gaza. Take a look, it's your nickel friend

LIVE FROM GAZA

http://12160.info/page/live-from-gaza

BC Premier Stands With Israel

http://www.cija.ca/canadian-politics/bc-premier-stands-with-israel/

"Israel has the right to defend itself against terrorist attacks. I'm proud that British Columbia can be counted on as a friend of Israel."

How the west was won then zionized from sea to shining sea

The good news is that Netanyahu is only targeting terrorists. The bad news is that he considers every Palestinian in Gaza, man, woman and child, a terrorist.

Tue, 2014-07-29 15:12

#143

Unionist

And Canadian parliamentarians, financed by Zionist lobby dollars, are off to kiss their masters' backsides:

[url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/parliamentarians-minus-ndp-on-perspectiv..., minus NDP, on 'perspective' mission to Israel[/url]

Here are the names of those giving comfort and support to mass murderers:

Quote:
Liberal MPs Carolyn Bennett and John McCallum, Conservative MPs Randy Hoback, Ted Opitz and David Sweet and Liberal Sen. Grant Mitchell.

Tue, 2014-07-29 15:16

#144

josh

Perspective? Starts with the right letter, but it's the wrong word. Propaganda. Or, more specifically, hasbara.

At least no NDPers went. But I'm sure someone will scramble to make the next trip.

Tue, 2014-07-29 21:48

#145

NDPP

Bombs Over Gaza (and vid)

http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/ID/2479095430/

Israel Targets an Ambulance on the Eve of Eid al Fitr (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/07/30/373315/israel-targets-an-ambula...

"Aed Al-Borae is a volunteer who was killed in a strike on an ambulance while trying to evacuate the wounded from Bait-Hanoun."

Israeli Professor's 'Rape as Terror Deterrent' Statement Draws Ire

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.606542

"The only thing that deters a suicide bomber is the knowledge that if he pulls the trigger or blows himself up, his sister will be raped,' says Bar-Ilan University professor.

'It sounds very bad, but that's the Middle East,' added Kedar, of Bar-Ilan's Department of Arabic.

Kedar is also a research fellow at the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies at Bar-Ilan, and in the past also served as chairman of the Israel Academia Monitor organization, which is involved in 'exposing extremist Israeli academics who exploit academic freedom in order to take steps to deny Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state.'

In the wake of the publication of his words, feminist activists today sent a letter to Bar-Ilan University president Rabbi Prof. Daniel Hershkowitz, in which they decried Kedar's 'words of incitement that grant legitimacy' to Israel Defense Forces, soldiers and Israeli civilians to commit rape, and endanger both Israeli and Palestinian women.

Kedar chose not to be interviewed..."

Child-Killing Sociopaths of Israel

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/07/29/373194/childkilling-sociopaths-...

"What is wrong with Israelis? Everytime Israel embarks on a new round of wholesale slaughter in Gaza, polls show that more than 90% of Israelis support the butchery..."

Wed, 2014-07-30 04:06

#146

NDPP

RT News - July 29, 2014 [1700 MSK and vid]

http://rt.com/bulletin-board/176304-rtnews-july-29-17msk/

"Israel fulfills its threat to deliver devastating strikes on Gaza, wiht dozens of Palestinians killed in attacks from land, air and sea overnight..."

20 Killed in Israeli Shelling of UN School (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/176576-gaza-un-school-strike/

"20 people have been killed after a shell hit the Palestinian refugee agency (UNRWA) girls' school in Jabalia refugee camp, emergency services say.

RT contributor Harry Fear reported from the scene..."

Poll: Overwhelming Support For IDF Operation, Netanyahu

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/183441#.U9ii46OtiV5

"Ninety-one percent (91%) of Israeli Jews support Israel's self-defense campaign against terrorism in Gaza, Operation Protective Edge, according to a survey published Monday - and just 4.2% believe the operation is a 'mistake'.

Seventy-seven percent (77%) of Israeli Jews polled 'very strongly support' Operation Protective Edge's airstrikes on Gaza.."

Wed, 2014-07-30 09:47

#147

josh

Israel. Occupying Gaza since 1967:

But at no point did Gaza become its own country. Had Gaza become its own country, it would have gained control over its borders. It never did. Even before the election of Hamas, Israel controlled whether Gazans could enter or exit the Strip. Israel controlled the population registry through which Gazans were issued identification cards. Upon evacuating its settlers and soldiers from Gaza, Israel even created a security perimeter inside the Strip from which Gazans were barred from entry. (Unfortunately for Gazans, this perimeter included some of the Strip’s best farmland).

“Pro-Israel” commentators claim Israel had legitimate security reasons for all this. But that concedes the point. A necessary occupation is still an occupation. That’s why it’s silly to analogize Hamas’ rockets—repugnant as they are—to Mexico or Canada attacking the United States. The United States is not occupying Mexico or Canada. Israel — according to the United States government — has been occupying Gaza without interruption since 1967.

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.608008

Wed, 2014-07-30 12:32

#148

josh

El Salvador recalled its Israeli ambassador from Tel Aviv on Wednesday to protest the military operation in Gaza, making it the fifth Latin American country to do so. Brazil, Chile, Ecuador and Peru have already recalled their ambassadors.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.607915