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terrytowel

New poll suggests that an even three-way vote split would present Ford’s best chance of winning the election despite his unpopularity.

The Ford voter is younger, has a lower income, lives in Scarborough or Etobicoke/York and is a provincial PC voter. The Chow supporter is younger, lower income, lives in the downtown and is a provincial NDP supporter. The Tory voter is oldest, wealthier, lives in Etobicoke/York or North York and votes Liberal provincially.

Just less than three-in-ten will vote for Ford with no other candidates named (28%), and this is considered the measure of "Ford Nation", which stood at one quarter (25%) last month. Ford nation comprises the youngest (35%), males (34%), the least wealthy (44%), in Scarborough (38%), the least educated (42%), provincial PC voters (46%) and those of Caribbean ethnic background (59% - caution, small base size).

Skinny Dipper

In Toronto's Ward 2, which candidate(s) are among the best to beat Michael Ford?

http://app.toronto.ca/vote/candidatesByWard.do?officeType=2&ward=2

Some local candidate websites are listed.

terrytowel

There is talk that if Rob Ford loses and Mike Ford wins, Mike will immediately resign his seat so Rob can run in a by-election.

But that is not automatic. Council and the new Mayor would have to decide if they want a special election or appoint someone.

Then again if Mike Ford gets elected, and Rob loses. Rob can work for free as Mike;s constinuency assistant!

 

ctrl190

Cressy to announce his candidacy for Ward 20 councillor tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/goldsbie/status/494173065031323648/photo/1

voice of the damned

adma wrote:

Keep in mind that Rob Ford "finds his place" in the poor multiethnic/multiracial suburbs in the same way that payday loansters, shady used car dealers, and dicey storefront lawyers "find their place" there.  And, address that point.

But people patronize the services of payday loansters because they have no other choice; no one else is offering them assistance.

Are you suggesting that none of the other candidates in 2010 were offering anything better to the multiethnic suburbs than what Ford was offering, and that none are offering any better today? In other words, voting for Smitherman, Pantalone, or Chow would be an even worse option for those suburbanites than voting for Ford?

 

 

adma

More that they haven't figured out the way to put their foot in the door, while Ford (opportunistically, predatorially) has.

voice of the damned

More that they haven't figured out the way to put their foot in the door, while Ford (opportunistically, predatorially) has.

But how difficult can it possibly be for people like Pantalone and Chow to sell their program, which purports to champion the interests of the poor and racialized, to the poor and racialized themselves?

To go back to to your analogy, the left are ethical lenders, offering loans at 1% interest to people in poor neighbourhoods. Ford is the loan shark offering loans at 40% interest, with default punishable by knee-breaking. And yet Ford still manages to do better business than the left-wingers. Something just doesn't add up there.

 

voice of the damned

From a recent NOW piece...

Such low expectations of public service make Ford a hero for offering his black supporters a hamburger and a little attention. A woman who gave her name as Flavour told me passionately, “I’ve been living in Scarborough for many years, and this is the only mayor I’ve ever gotten to shake hands with.”

This sort of desperation and insecurity would be comic if it weren’t so consistent among the blacks I interviewed. 

Ford may not be perfect (I heard this at least a dozen times), he may even be racist sometimes, but he performs token positive gestures toward blacks that others won’t, and that’s good enough for many. 

Again, assuming this analysis is correct, Rob Ford outshines the left in connecting with the very communities that the left claims to be the biggest supporters of. Even after Ford has left the scene in two months(as I'm sure he will), I think progressives(and not just in Toronto) need to do some pretty serious soul-searching about this.

http://tinyurl.com/mt44qz3

Skinny Dipper

Under the David Miller mayoralty, free services became user-pay.  Garbage collection became more restricted.  A vehicle surcharge was added onto those living in Toronto.   Who bore the brunt of the added costs?  Poorer Torontonians living in the suburbs.

Rob Ford was the anti-David Miller even though they did not run against each other in the last mayoral election.  The strange thing was that the social democrats on the David Miller council at the time were putting more emphasis on user-pay so that the well-off in downtown Toronto could have lower property taxes.  This seemed like the an anti-thesis of social democracy--one that now Liberal MP Adam Vaughan supported as a councillor.

Will Olivia Chow win the mayoral election? I will give her about a 33% chance at winning with John Tory at 60%.  I give Rob Ford a 6% chance only if the other two candidates cannot get their supporters to vote.

When a look at Olivia Chow and John Tory's campaign proposals on their websites, I see Ms. Chow offering redistibution programs to help families and young people.  However, John Tory offers a belief to voters that he will help provide growth.  Whether or not he does, I think that suburban voters will choose growth over redistribution.  John Tory will win with the support of those who voted for Rob Ford previously.

adma

voice of the damned wrote:
To go back to to your analogy, the left are ethical lenders, offering loans at 1% interest to people in poor neighbourhoods. Ford is the loan shark offering loans at 40% interest, with default punishable by knee-breaking. And yet Ford still manages to do better business than the left-wingers. Something just doesn't add up there.

Well, sadly, it's just like the sharks being more conspicuous visual presences in said poor neighbourhoods--to the point where they're "normalized".  The foot-in-the-door factor. 

Whereas the "ethical lenders" have to really struggle to be noticed--especially when existing loan shark patrons are too fatally beholden or in denial.

It's like "comfort food" that's bad for you.

voice of the damned

Skinny Dipper wrote:

Rob Ford was the anti-David Miller even though they did not run against each other in the last mayoral election.  The strange thing was that the social democrats on the David Miller council at the time were putting more emphasis on user-pay so that the well-off in downtown Toronto could have lower property taxes.  This seemed like the an anti-thesis of social democracy--one that now Liberal MP Adam Vaughan supported as a councillor.

That's an interesting analysis, Skinny. I don't think I'd ever heard that before.

To what would you attribute this emphasis on lower downtown property taxes? Was it just that that's where most of the left's support lay, so Miller and Company cynically figured thry needed to shore up their base? Or was there some belief that downtowners were, in fact, paying too much in the first place? Or that downtown needed lower rates to encourage development? Or...?

Skinny Dipper

We are in the September phase of the Toronto municipal election: Whom do you recommend for wards 1 to 44? Note: feel free to mention one or more wards.  Key wards: 2 (someone who can defeat Michael "Ford"), 7 (someone who can defeat Giorgio Mammoliti), 20 (lots of possibilities), and others.

Skinny Dipper
adma

Ward 2: all the attention seems to be focused upon Andray Domise.

Skinny Dipper

adma wrote:

Ward 2: all the attention seems to be focused upon Andray Domise.

It's difficult to define his politics.  I think he is more a centrist.  However, he is the person most likely to beat Michael Ford.

ctrl190

Sandra Bussin just filled out her nomination forms and will try and win back her former east-end seat from Mary Margaret McMahon.

It's interesting that MMM's win was seen as a victory for the right against Miller ally Bussin, especially since John Tory and the Toronto Sun endorsed her. However MMM's voting record on council is firmly in the centre-left region. 

zerocarbs

I suppose it's just wishful thinking that Perks has pissed off enough people that his seat might be in jeopardy.His war on restaurants probably hasn't directly affected enough people, and his sanctimonious manner doesn't get noticed by most. He said once that something in Parkdale would only be allowed over his dead body - as if there was something special about his dead body. There's a difference between representing a ward and treating it as a personal sandbox. We got off on the wrong foot when he lied to me on my doorstep about what exactly was wrong with gentirification - and meanwhile was going all kissy-face with my wife as they had a shared backgournd on environmemtal issues. His manner was so false it made my skin crawl.

ctrl190

It would be a real shame if Perks lost, he might be the left's most effective councillor in the chamber. I don't know who his ward opponents are but he was re-elected handedly back in in 2010.

Stockholm

Ready for some comic relief? That kook Sarah Thomson (you know the one who registered to run for mayor in a horse drawn carriage and has been an object of ridicule ever since) has dropped her mayoral bid and now wants to run for council in Ward 20. She actually lives in a gigantic mansion in Rosedale in Ward 27 - but details, details don't bother her with details.

If a ridiculous loon like Sarah Thomson is the closest thing to a high profile opponent for Joe Cressy - he has NOTHING to worry about.

Robo

Skinny Dipper wrote:

We are in the September phase of the Toronto municipal election: Whom do you recommend for wards 1 to 44? Note: feel free to mention one or more wards.  Key wards: 2 (someone who can defeat Michael "Ford"), 7 (someone who can defeat Giorgio Mammoliti), 20 (lots of possibilities), and others.

(1) Well, for starters consider [url=http://www.labourcouncil.ca/uploads/8/8/6/1/8861416/endorsements_as_of_s... list[/url]. I personally would choose some names other than those chosen by Labour Council, but I happen to support their choices in the three wards you ask about.  (I also am happy [url=http://www.russford.ca/]they endorsed Ford for Ward 6[/url]...)

(2) NOW Magazine usually has a list of candidates for Council positions (ignoring or barely mentioning trustee positions) in the issue immediately prior to election day that is also worth considering. An advantage of considering the NOW list of endorsements is that each has [url=http://www.nowtoronto.com/news/story.cfm?content=177429]a brief explanation (this link for the 2010 election)[/url], from some NOW writer's perspective, of why that candidate is clearly the best / better than another kind of good candidate / better to support than the idiot likely to be elected. Their endorsements are not masters theses written with extensive footnotes on the relative merits of each candidate on every issue imaginable -- but, based on past years' editions, it gives one some good rationale to ponder as a starting point when one makes one's own choice.

Robo

Oh, one more more thing, one person on the Labour Council endorsement list that everyone -- and I really really do mean everyone -- should encourage anybody they know in Agincourt to support is [url=http://mannawong.com/]Manna Wong[/url] for Public School Trustee Toronto wards 39 and 40 (Scarborough-Agincourt).  She is a good person, no question.  More importantly, she is running against an incumbent homphobic piece of crap trustee, well exposed by [url=http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/09/07/watch-homophobe-lost-for-words-when... video[/url].  Manna came a narrow second to this recent incumbent in a [url=http://www1.toronto.ca/static_files/city_clerks_office/elections/docs/Re... trustee by-election[/url], and the incumbent really deserves not to be re-elected.

If you do not personally know any public school eligible voters who live in City wards 39 or 40, send her your money.

Stockholm

According to some ward polls by Forum Research (I know i know)...Paula Fletcher is wayyyyy ahead in Ward 30 with 57% of the vote compared to 18% for Ford supporter and blue Liberal Liz White and a humiliating 13% for Jane Farrow who was supposed to be Adam Vaughan's Liberal plant...people thought she would be such a strong candidate because she leads walking tours...but apparently she is going NO WHERE.

In ward 20, Cressy leads everyone else by a 5 to 1 margin - he is at 47% and his next biggest competitor Sarah Thomson is wayyy back at 9%. Looks like the Keystone Cops local liberals failed to dig up anyone sympathetic to Vaughan to keep the council seat in liberal hands and so it will be a Cressy coronation. 

ctrl190

First Jim Karygiannis in Ward 39, and now John Nunziata throwing his hat in the ring in Ward 12. We just need John Cannis to create the trifecta of Toronto backbench hacks from the Chretien era. 

bekayne

Skinny Dipper wrote:

 Key wards: 2 (someone who can defeat Michael "Ford")

Not anymore

ctrl190

Stockholm wrote:

According to some ward polls by Forum Research (I know i know)...Paula Fletcher is wayyyyy ahead in Ward 30 with 57% of the vote compared to 18% for Ford supporter and blue Liberal Liz... 

Great to see Fletcher with the momentum. The anti-Miller sentiment that nearly crushed her last time around has fizzled. That, combined with more visibility and accomplishments in her ward the last four years will give her an advantage.

 

Skinny Dipper wrote:

adma wrote:

Ward 2: all the attention seems to be focused upon Andray Domise.

It's difficult to define his politics.  I think he is more a centrist.  However, he is the person most likely to beat Michael Ford.

Domise was a heavily involved with the OLP and his campaign is being run by former Young Liberal execs. With Rob now in the race Domise reportedly raised $10,000 in nine hours yesterday. 

 

Meanwhile, the Labour Council published their list of endorsements and most of them should be of no surprise. The only head scratcher was their endorsement of centrist Ward 17 councillor Ana Bailao over Alex Mazer, who, based on his platform and endorsements, is a more progressive alternative. 

 

Debater

Stockholm wrote:

According to some ward polls by Forum Research (I know i know)...Paula Fletcher is wayyyyy ahead in Ward 30 with 57% of the vote compared to 18% for Ford supporter and blue Liberal Liz White and a humiliating 13% for Jane Farrow who was supposed to be Adam Vaughan's Liberal plant...people thought she would be such a strong candidate because she leads walking tours...but apparently she is going NO WHERE.

In ward 20, Cressy leads everyone else by a 5 to 1 margin - he is at 47% and his next biggest competitor Sarah Thomson is wayyy back at 9%. Looks like the Keystone Cops local liberals failed to dig up anyone sympathetic to Vaughan to keep the council seat in liberal hands and so it will be a Cressy coronation. 

Stockholm, the seat was never in 'liberal hands'.  Vaughan was not a Liberal when he was on council.  He was an independent progressive that appealed to both NDPers and Liberals, thus his 75% margin of victory in 2010.  It was never a 'liberal seat'.

As for Joe Cressy, he is lucky that he is able to keep running on Olivia Chow's name, because he doesn't seem to have much of an identity of his own.  It's fortunate for him that he is running in Olivia's old seat and won't have much competition.

Stockholm

That's ridiculous, Cressy knocked on every door in the riding running federally and made a very good impression on people. Why else do you think the poll gives him an astronomic approval rating, even among liberal voters?

Vaughan was always a closet Liberal and now that he is a Liberal MP he is desperately trying to defeat former allies of his on council that have NDP ties (like Paula Fletcher) and replace them with Liberal party hacks like Jane Farrow...it's a flop so far. It's common knowledge that Vaughan has spent most of the summer frantically trying to talk someone ANYONE high profile to run in Ward 20 who would be his puppet and prevent his arch enemy Joe Cressy from being elected and building a power base, but he FAILED they all turned him down. So now Vaughan is stuck with the nightmare situation of Cressy taking his old council seat.

adma

Another thing about Cressy to remember is that even if he may superficially seem "backroom hack", parentally speaking, he has strong municipal heritage.

And as far as Vaughan goes: maybe he inadvertently shot himself in the municipal foot by being "all but NDP" in Council.  So, given all of that, he can *probably* settle with Cressy as his municipal replacement, much as Olivia Chow could settle with Adam Vaughan as *her* municipal (never mind federal) replacement...

Debater

His 'strong municipal heritage' mainly consists of him getting where he is because of his father's legacy and his connections to Jack & Olivia.  Otherwise he would never have been chosen to contend for a high-profile seat in Parliament at the age of 29.

Anyway, I agree that Joe Cressy will win in Ward 20.  It's Olivia Chow's old seat and he's also getting help from Mike Layton next door.

Btw, Bob Rae & George Smitherman have endorsed Cressy.  That shows that prominent Liberals do endorse NDPer's and can be bipartisan.  I wish we saw more of that from the NDP.

terrytowel

Exactly Debater, if I was Cressy I wouldn't be so welcoming to Olivia after she stabbed him in the back

But considering that Mike Layton is his best friend, I would assume he is putting on a good face.

He might forgive, but he sure won't forget.

adma

Debater wrote:

His 'strong municipal heritage' mainly consists of him getting where he is because of his father's legacy and his connections to Jack & Olivia.  

Actually, don't forget his mother, Joanne Campbell, who served on Metro council in the 1980s.

Stockholm

Debater wrote:

His 'strong municipal heritage' mainly consists of him getting where he is because of his father's legacy and his connections to Jack & Olivia.  Otherwise he would never have been chosen to contend for a high-profile seat in Parliament at the age of 29.

 

He is wayyy more qualified than a certain Justin trudeau who only got handed a seat in parliament because he is the son of Pierre trudeau and whose resume consisted of being a snowboard instructor and apart-time drama teacher. in contrast Cressy has done AIDS prevention work in Africa and run literacy programs  in First nations reserves in northern Ontario. Seriously, you are trying to foist an utterly unqualified trust fund play boy on the Canadian people as a candidate for Prime Minister and then you have the nerve to cast aspersions on the qualifiactions of someone running for a city council seat in Toronto???

BTW: There are lots of examples of New Democrats returning the favour and backing people with Liberal ties at the municipal level. Alex Mazer was an assistant to Dwight Duncan and is a Liberal and is running against Ana Bailao and many NDPers are backing him including Brian Topp.

Debater

Stockholm, I hope that was a joke.  Trudeau was not 'handed a seat'.  He had to compete for the nomination and then run against a BQ MP.  He wasn't given the seat, even though he was a Prime Minister's son.  And Trudeau was never a drama teacher.  It doesn't make you look good to repeat Conservative spin.

Unlike Trudeau, Cressy has never been elected to Parliament and does not run a major Federal party.  And let's not turn this into another Trudeau debate.  He has nothing to do with this topic.

The bottom line is that Cressy constantly talks about Jack & Olivia because he has no real record or accomplishments of his own.  That doesn't mean he is a bad person - there are lots of people who do stuff like that.  But he is an opportunist.  Stop pretending otherwise.

Stockholm

Nice to know "Debater"  that you think that working as an AIDS activist in Africa and doing literacy work in aboriginal reserves in Northern Ontario are WORTHLESS.I guess that's the typical Liberal attitude that spending your life as an activist working on social justice and environmental issues = having no accomplishments. To Liberals it seems the only thing that counts as an "accomplishment" is being a corporate lawyer or a general in the army (not sure where Trudeau the snowboard instructor fits in).

Here is a bit more about Cressy - compare that to Justin Trudeau's incredibly thin resume - and I repeat Cressy is running to be a city councillor which is a traditional entry level job in politics - Trudeau wants to be PM even though he has accomplished ZILCH in his life - before running for parliament in his late 30s Justin Trudeau had not been involved in any public policy or social justice related cause at all - he was a play boy teaching people to snowboard - most trust fund kids do far more with their bounty than Trudeau was willing to do.

"The environment. Joe is an environmental activist. In his role as Campaigns Coordinator at the Polaris Institute he successfully pushed Toronto City Council and 75 municipalities across Canada to ban bottled water in city buildings and to invest in and promote safe public water.

- Income fairness and food security. Joe is deeply concerned about the increasing income gap in our City. As a former Board Director of The Stop Community Food Centre, he sought to raise the issues of income inequality and food security by providing direct services such as local bake ovens, community gardens and markets, and food banks, and also by sponsoring sustainable-food-systems education and promoting community advocacy.

- Transit. Transit is a defining issue for our City. Joe worked with Olivia Chow to create and launch ‘I Heart Public Transit,’ a local campaign for a national transit strategy that would allow for sustainable, and predictable long-term funding for transit in Toronto.

- Building Social Infrastructure.
Joe understands that strong social infrastructure and social services are vital to the quality of life in a big city. He was a Board Director at Social Planning Toronto, an organization that is committed to research and advocacy to ensure a strong quality of life for all Torontonians and participation by local people in decisions that affect their lives.

As the former Director of Campaigns and Outreach at the Stephen Lewis Foundation, he worked to support community-based HIV/AIDS organizations in sub-Saharan Africa. He has also led literacy programs in fly-in Aboriginal reserves in Northern Ontario, worked with anti-poverty and human rights groups in South Africa, volunteered on HIV and AIDS projects with the LGBT community in Ghana, and was an active youth leader in the peace movement in the lead-up to the war in Iraq.

NorthReport

Unfortunately Rob Ford is not going away anytime soon, and will still be again a larger than life presence on Toronto City Council.

It's obvious this whole bait and switch routine has been the plan for months, and it was just a metter of time before the Fords put it into action.

Rob Ford, even in a hospital bed, surges in Ward 2 poll

Barely a day after entering the Etobicoke North race, Rob Ford is the leading candidate according to an opinion poll.

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/toronto2014election/2014/09/14/rob...

 

Stockholm

If this tumor is actually malignant ford will die pretty soon

terrytowel

Stockholm wrote:
If this tumor is actually malignant ford will die pretty soon

I'm sure you like the rest of Toronto wish Rob all the best in this health crisis.

Though I dispise his politics and behaviour, I wouldn't wish this health battle on anyone.

Stockholm

I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone - but there is a loit about this story that is very suspicious:

1. When people check into rehab they are invariable given and very thorough and complete physical. Is it possible that a "very large" tumour could have been completely missed in June and then suddenly pops up in early September??? Especially when the rehab clinic Ford went into also promotes itself as also specializing in "early cancer detection"

2. Why isn't anyone pointing out the oddness of having to wait a whole week for the results of biopsy (conveniently taking it to after the drop in or drop out date)? I know lots of people in the medical field and they all say that in cases like Ford's where you have a large tumour that is suspected of being cancer - the standard practice is an immediate biopsy with a pathologist standing by to analyse it right away and the results are usually available within hours not days.

Something is rotten in Denmark

6079_Smith_W
Debater

Stockholm wrote:

Nice to know "Debater"  that you think that working as an AIDS activist in Africa and doing literacy work in aboriginal reserves in Northern Ontario are WORTHLESS.I guess that's the typical Liberal attitude that spending your life as an activist working on social justice and environmental issues = having no accomplishments. To Liberals it seems the only thing that counts as an "accomplishment" is being a corporate lawyer or a general in the army (not sure where Trudeau the snowboard instructor fits in).

Here is a bit more about Cressy - compare that to Justin Trudeau's incredibly thin resume - and I repeat Cressy is running to be a city councillor which is a traditional entry level job in politics - Trudeau wants to be PM even though he has accomplished ZILCH in his life - before running for parliament in his late 30s Justin Trudeau had not been involved in any public policy or social justice related cause at all - he was a play boy teaching people to snowboard - most trust fund kids do far more with their bounty than Trudeau was willing to do.

"The environment. Joe is an environmental activist. In his role as Campaigns Coordinator at the Polaris Institute he successfully pushed Toronto City Council and 75 municipalities across Canada to ban bottled water in city buildings and to invest in and promote safe public water.

- Income fairness and food security. Joe is deeply concerned about the increasing income gap in our City. As a former Board Director of The Stop Community Food Centre, he sought to raise the issues of income inequality and food security by providing direct services such as local bake ovens, community gardens and markets, and food banks, and also by sponsoring sustainable-food-systems education and promoting community advocacy.

- Transit. Transit is a defining issue for our City. Joe worked with Olivia Chow to create and launch ‘I Heart Public Transit,’ a local campaign for a national transit strategy that would allow for sustainable, and predictable long-term funding for transit in Toronto.

- Building Social Infrastructure.
Joe understands that strong social infrastructure and social services are vital to the quality of life in a big city. He was a Board Director at Social Planning Toronto, an organization that is committed to research and advocacy to ensure a strong quality of life for all Torontonians and participation by local people in decisions that affect their lives.

As the former Director of Campaigns and Outreach at the Stephen Lewis Foundation, he worked to support community-based HIV/AIDS organizations in sub-Saharan Africa. He has also led literacy programs in fly-in Aboriginal reserves in Northern Ontario, worked with anti-poverty and human rights groups in South Africa, volunteered on HIV and AIDS projects with the LGBT community in Ghana, and was an active youth leader in the peace movement in the lead-up to the war in Iraq.

Where did I say doing those things were worthless?  Don't put words in my mouth.

The point is that Cressy has done a few things to look good on his resume, but everything he has done has been given to him by his NDP connections.  Even some NDPers admitted this on the by-election thread by pointing out that it's easy for well-connected NDPers to get jobs with the Stephen Lewis Foundation and the Broadbent Institute.

Stop repeating the CPC nonsense about the snowboarding instructor.  That was something Justin did in his youth, like lots of other people at that age.  That was not the job he had when he was an adult.  I'm sure Mulcair had summer jobs while he was at university, too.  Waiting on tables, fast food, etc.

Trudeau did 2 university degrees and was a teacher.  He ran Katimavik.  He went into politics in his mid-30's (not late 30's) and has been elected twice in competitive elections, not safe seats.  He runs a major political party and is fluent in both languages.  Does Cressy speak a language other than English?

Btw, Justin has led a far more stable family life than his father - he hasn't really been a 'playboy' like his Dad.  Justin Trudeau got married in his early 30's and has already had 3 kids.  His father didn't get married or have kids until he was about 50!  Justin has been far more mature in many respects than his Dad was.

Aristotleded24

Stockholm wrote:
When people check into rehab they are invariable given and very thorough and complete physical. Is it possible that a "very large" tumour could have been completely missed in June and then suddenly pops up in early September??? Especially when the rehab clinic Ford went into also promotes itself as also specializing in "early cancer detection"

For all we know, maybe Ford wasn't experiencing abdominal pains during this time, or maybe he didn't feel them serious enough to consider a personal priority, or maybe since abdominal pain is a common symptom the medical staff didn't think anything was seriously wrong at the time. Most cancers need some sort of biopsy or invasive procedure to determine for sure, so I'm not sure how a routine physical would have picked up an internal cancer anyways. And even that, medical checks are not fool proof, because it's not unheard of for healthy individuals to suddenly drop dead without any previous indications that something is wrong.

ctrl190

Vaughan putting his support behind a third place candidate Jane Farrow was a headscratcher from the beginning but now it makes sense. Farrow's partner and campaign manager is Adam's sister Anabelle.

Stockholm

ctrl190 wrote:

Vaughan putting his support behind a third place candidate Jane Farrow was a headscratcher from the beginning but now it makes sense. Farrow's partner and campaign manager is Adam's sister Anabelle.

Its not such a head scratcher - Vaughan is now a Liberal MP and is doing doing what hyper-partisan Liberals do - help other Liberals get elected. Jane Farrow is clearly the "Liberal in all but name" in that ward and she part of a larger Liberal strategy to defeat progressive city councillors with NDP sympathies with low-profile, polite city councillors with Liberal ties who will cooperate with the provincial government and provide support to John Tory if he becomes mayor.

ctrl190

Stockholm wrote:

ctrl190 wrote:

Vaughan putting his support behind a third place candidate Jane Farrow was a headscratcher from the beginning but now it makes sense. Farrow's partner and campaign manager is Adam's sister Anabelle.

Its not such a head scratcher - Vaughan is now a Liberal MP and is doing doing what hyper-partisan Liberals do - help other Liberals get elected. Jane Farrow is clearly the "Liberal in all but name" in that ward and she part of a larger Liberal strategy to defeat progressive city councillors with NDP sympathies with low-profile, polite city councillors with Liberal ties who will cooperate with the provincial government and provide support to John Tory if he becomes mayor.

I just think it's odd because West seems the most logical candidate to try and topple Fletcher. Other local Grits like Grant Gordon and Dennis Mills are putting their support behind West. Of course, a Liberal riding association with their resources split in half will probably just help Fletcher.

Stockholm

Yes but West is a very rightwing Ford supporter - so there was no way that the more so-called "progressive Liberals" were ever going to get behind here - so basically you have a Liberal civil war being played out and Paula Fletcher will go waltzing in.

Sineed

adma wrote:

Ward 2: all the attention seems to be focused upon Andray Domise.

Check out his AMA on reddit. Below is part of his response to a particularly noxious troll on /r/Toronto:

http://rabble.ca/comment/reply/109480/1455711?quote=1#comment-form

Quote:

On the topic of our culture, which I will not use scare quotes on, because your questions cannot take my heritage away from me any more than Rob Ford can, I could argue with you that it was not only done in private. But instead, I’ll provide an anecdote. I had a journalist accompany me on a trip through Etobicoke, to see the neighbourhoods, and we were chatting. I mentioned in passing that Rob Ford is a racist and he challenged me on that point. He asked, “You don’t really think Rob Ford is a racist, do you?” It was then pointed out to me how comfortable he is being around and being seen with black people and black culture, as if this was some proof that the man couldn’t possibly hate black people. I sat there in my car and listened to someone explain to me - a black Canadian of Jamaican descent who lived in the US South for a time - what racism is and is not.

I am going to address this here, as directly as I can.

Rob Ford has two messages when it comes to black people. To us, he says “You’re nothing without me.” To the rest of the city, he says “Look how well I keep these animals in line”. He has taken every effort to keep us dependent on him to his own benefit, and when he’s criticized for it, he wraps himself in our culture and tries to claim solidarity in victimhood. It is the political equivalent of black face. Whenever he has the opportunity to help marginalized communities in Toronto, he steps on us to give himself a platform by voting against any measures that would allow us to help ourselves enough to break the cycle of dependency.

Politically and rhetorically, he has failed the black communities on all accounts. And with all that, he refers to us as niggers, in private, and refers to himself as the “most racist guy around”. Short of working that quote into his campaign speeches, what more does he need to do to shock this city into understanding that racism is real?

On Friday, he announced he was stepping out of the mayoral race to run for his former seat in Ward 2. Not a single newspaper took the time to mention that this will be Rob Ford’s first time facing the electorate as an avowed racist, and he is doing so against a black candidate.

It staggers me that this man is going to lose to RoFo.

Sineed

zerocarbs wrote:

I suppose it's just wishful thinking that Perks has pissed off enough people that his seat might be in jeopardy. His war on restaurants probably hasn't directly affected enough people, and his sanctimonious manner doesn't get noticed by most.

If by the "war on restaurants," you mean that certain coffee patio on Roncesvalles, somebody told me they did everything wrong in their paperwork and also set up the patio before they had approval. I know Gord has pissed lots of people off, but I don't think he has a credible opponent.

I've actually had a beer with Gord, and I don't think he's such a bad guy; just a typical politician in a lot of ways. My husband would be more in agreement with you, however. Interesting point about him talking up your wife. My highly-unscientific and non-reproducible poll of these parts suggests that women like Gord more.

NorthReport

Is this supposed to be some big news story here? If it is, it escapes me.

http://www.ourwindsor.ca/opinion-story/4926484-toronto-school-board-race...

ctrl190

NorthReport wrote:

Is this supposed to be some big news story here? If it is, it escapes me.

http://www.ourwindsor.ca/opinion-story/4926484-toronto-school-board-race...

I't's definitely worthy of a discussion. Omitted from the article is any mention of Jennifer Story's husband, Rick Smith, who is the head of the Broadbent Institute and a former Toronto Danforth NDP Exec member. I have heard a number of reasons why the NDP pulled their support for Dandy: the reasons mentioned in the article, Fletcher upset with some of Dandy's board votes, and Rick Smith weilding his influence to make Story the NDP pole bearer. 

Robo

Robo wrote:

Skinny Dipper wrote:

We are in the September phase of the Toronto municipal election: Whom do you recommend for wards 1 to 44? Note: feel free to mention one or more wards.  Key wards: 2 (someone who can defeat Michael "Ford"), 7 (someone who can defeat Giorgio Mammoliti), 20 (lots of possibilities), and others.

(1) Well, for starters consider [url=http://www.labourcouncil.ca/uploads/8/8/6/1/8861416/endorsements_as_of_s... list[/url]. ...

(2) NOW Magazine usually has a list of candidates for Council positions (ignoring or barely mentioning trustee positions) in the issue immediately prior to election day that is also worth considering. ...

So, here is the [url=http://www.nowtoronto.com/news/story.cfm?content=200181]summary NOW endorsement list[/url] for the consideration of all Torontonians, with [url=http://www.nowtoronto.com/news/story.cfm?content=200180]more detailed explanations[/url] on linked pages, with different columnists giving different explanations. Interestingly, this is the first time that I can recall NOW writing anything more than a simple list regarding TDSB [url=http://www.nowtoronto.com/news/story.cfm?content=200068]school board candidates[/url]

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