The Donetsk National Republic lives!

He's everywhere. Heh.

For those who still cling to the idea that the DNR rebels etc are acting like a bunch of terrorists, check out this Kiev-appointed oligarch and his approach ...

M Sleboda wrote:

Kolomoisky, Ukraine Putsch-appointed oligarch-baron & merc warlord of Dnepropetrovsk, threatens to blow up Dnepr Hydro-electric Dam if rebels or partisans take Zaporozhe. Who's the terrorist?

Kolomoisky threatens to blow up a hydro dam if the civil war goes badly ... (in Russian)

 The Nuclear Answer to Chamberlain

S Naylor from Slavyangrad.org wrote:

The Ukrainian Minister of Defence, Geletei, has announced that Ukraine will choose to drop its nuclear-free status and arm its army with nuclear weapons in the event that “the world does not help [the country].” In Russia this announcement prompted a not-so-polite proposal that Geletei undergo psychiatric treatment; however this issue does not exist solely as a subject of the field of clinical research.

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It is clear that under normal circumstances, the West would not have agreed to this under any conditions. Both Russia and China alike would react most severely to the idea of the transfer of nuclear weapons to a failed state. However, the circumstances are no longer normal. This is a pre-war situation, and the West is frankly engaging in a conflict by using a drugged-up halfwit as its champion in the war.... If it comes to the transfer of warheads, delivery vehicles will also be donated to Ukraine. It is also clear that the Ukrainians will not be allowed to staff or to command all these systems, although there is always the option of issuing Ukrainian passports to some Ukrainian-speaking American or Canadian citizens to address this problem.

Great. Canadian warmongers, Russophobic zombies, playing a role in starting WW3.

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In essence, such an operation would be analogous to the Syrian one. The conflict will be given a second wind by the introduction of new (or, rather, of qualitatively strengthened) participants. No one will allow Ukraine to return to civilian life—the claw has stuck. The current Nazi authorities have proven that they will, without flinching, apply any type of weapon to anybody, including its own civilians. Would they be prepared, in demanding the return of Crimea, to threaten Russia with these weapons? It is quite possible. Especially if the West supports it in this undertaking by threatening to respond to Russia’s counterstrike with its own arsenal. This would be a game of nerves, and it is quite uncertain how strong they are in the Russian leadership.

Nuclear weapons in this case would become an entirely adequate analogue of the Islamic State—only this time for Ukraine.

In other words, it makes sense to take Geletei’s words with a grain of salt, but without dismissing him as a complete fool. He may, in fact, be a fool, but the same does not necessarily apply to his words.

By the way, a few months ago my friend from Kiev warned about such a development. At that time, his statements were received very skeptically by those who commented on his message. Something tells me that this time around the number of skeptics will be somewhat smaller.

Very informative site. See, for example

Igor Ivanovich Strelkov "We Will Not Allow for Russia to be Ripped Asunder and Ruined"

Following the prisoner exchange, self-defense fighters and others discuss what it is like

... in the torture chamber of the Ukrainian secret service.

About these sorts of things, the useful idiots will have nothing to say and nor will the western media. I can't imagine why.

Those are first person eyewitness reports given by people who have just obtained their freedom. You can watch the videos for yourself.

What do you want? Actual footage of the torture?

Why did the Ukrainian Resistance win? Why did the Kiev regime's troops lose?

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The Resistance won the war for essentially the following reasons:  

• High Motivation: The Resistance fought to defend its own territory and people. 
• Its ability to recruit increasing numbers of highly motivated volunteers throughout the fighting. 
• The superior knowledge of the territory it was defending. 
• The moral and operational unity of its fighters. 
• Its effective use of small unit sabotage tactics that enabled it to inflict losses demoralising and weakening its adversary. 
• The support of the local population, in all the territories in which there was fighting. 
• The support of the Russian Federation especially in dealing with the humanitarian crisis caused by the fighting and in offering safe havens along the border. 
• Its effective air defence, which denied the Government air force unrestricted access to the battlefield.
• The strategic retreat from Slaviansk accomplished by Strelkov and his men, that slowly began to turn the tide of the conflict.

 

Ukraine Army

• Low Motivation. Many soldiers were forced into the army through repeated mobilisations and did not feel committed to the struggle. 
• The lack of effective strategies to conquer and occupy continuously captured territory. 
• )Poor training and knowledge in the use of available weapons. 
• Internal conflicts within the Ukraine army and between the Army and the National Guard and the paramilitary battalions answerable to various oligarchs. 
• High losses of men and material caused by poor tactics causing demoralisation amongst the soldiers.

Victory for the Donbass!

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The new protocol is a victory for the resistance.  It means the Ukrainian government cannot defeat it militarily.  It also means the Ukrainian government now recognise it as a negotiating partner.  In summary:  

• The Government launched a military operation (the so called "anti terrorist operation") to quell an uprising and arrest those it labelled terrorists  It has not achieved either objective. The "anti terrorist operation" has failed. 
• The conflict has now moved from a military to a political phase between two well-defined and mutually recognising legal entities: the Ukrainian Government and the political entity formed by the Resistance called Novorossiya. 
• The fighting has ended with the Resistance in control of most of the territory it controlled at the beginning of the fighting in May. 
• The Government has been forced to propose a "special status" for the regions that have rebelled contrary to what it stated when the conflict began. 
• The Resistance has the political option of rejecting any deal that does not grant full independence from Kiev.

boo rah! Let Freedom Reign!

It's over. As I've already posted on this thread or elsewhere, even right-wing (that is, those that agree with you) media like the Washington Post note that Novorossiya is a de facto country. The Ukrainian oligarch, Chocolate-shenko, got less money from the USians ($50 million) than ... Burundi. lol. He has moved on to more important matters like ... keeping warm this winter and upgrading the military. Ukraine is teetering on being a failed state .. if it isn't already.

How to de-Nazify Ukraine? Is it possible? Those are more important questions. The Saker asks whether peace in Ukraine is even possible and comes to the conclusion ... that the de-Nazification is essential.

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under what conditions can the Ukraine know peace? Not just any ‘peace’ but a peace without wholesale disintegration of the country into petty fiefdoms, without a bloodstained dictatorship, without ethnic cleansing and without genocide. In order to answer this question, it is necessary, above all, to look at Kiev and Donetsk.

So, here is one scenario .

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In theory the only way that Kiev can go back to normal would be in the context of sustained economic growth. In that case it might be possible to brush the nationalist slogans back under the carpet and for everyone to benefit from the resultant financial in-flows, but here Kiev has fallen into a trap of its own making. It is a simple fact that economic growth is only possible in collaboration with Russia and the Eurasian Economic Union. There is simply no other option.

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Insofar as Kiev has adopted a radically anti-Russian model, the chances of growth in that country are precisely zero. The European Union has no money and judging by the way that the crisis is developing the prognosis is not positive, and even if we were to look, more optimistically, into the medium term at the global economic situation, the European Union is most likely to help out the Eastern European Countries and the Baltic States before it bails out Ukraine. Nothing personal, just business.

In other words, Kievan nationalism is going nowhere. The Saker's sobering conclusion is ...

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If we believe that the best outcome is a united (that is relatively united, without either the Crimea or Galicia) Ukraine, a Ukraine which is peaceful and prosperous, it is essential that the insurgents take control of Kiev. Until this happens, the war will continue. Unfortunately, there is simply no way of stopping the war and preserving Ukraine until Kiev falls to the insurgents.

I hope he's being pessimistic but he's a lot closer to events on the ground than I am.

Even the Washington Post is acknowledging the obvious. Novorossiya will be a new country - whatever attempts at ethnic cleansing and other despicable atrocities and war crimes were carried out by the NATO puppet regime in Kiev.

a de facto country is born

a de facto country is born - 2nd link

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It is easy to dismiss the historical reality of a place called Novorossiya. Denouncing it as little more than Russian propaganda has become a common refrain among Western journalists and policy commentators. But the experience of Eurasia’s other disputed regions points to a sobering prospect for Ukraine: Cease-fires and last-ditch promises of a “special status” have traditionally been the starting points for the creation of a durable de facto state — one that the international community cannot unbuild, that the central government cannot defeat, and that average people come to accord a certain degree of loyalty.

Which just goes to show that motivated fighters do a hell of a better job than disrespected cannon fodder, foreign mercenaries, and Russophobic zombie nationalists.

Meanwhile, of course, Chocolate-shenko is talking out of both sides of his mouth at the same time: pleading for weapons to kill his countrymen at the US Congress while allegedly working to strengthen the ceasefire; all the while trying to hold back the Pandora's Box of fascists in Right Sector, Svboda, and militia death squads while drawing Ukraine as close as possible into the barbarous and aggressive NATO military alliance.

I'm just waiting for him to start chewing his tie. I repeat my prediction that this oligarch will have a warrant for his arrest in less time than it took for Georgia to issue an arrest warrant for the war criminal,  former Georgian President Saakashvili.

This is what war sounds like.

Warning: live fire in a war zone.

Saker wrote:

Military situation

The situation in the Ukraine and Novorussia is a very tense and could lead to a major resumption of hostilities.

The Junta Repression Forces (JRF) have used the ceasefire to lick their wounds, get reorganized, concentrate their forces, bring in much needed reinforcements, prepare defensive fortifications and bring in new units.  The Novorussian Armed Forces (NAF) have done the same but, unlike the JRF, the NAF suffer from a lack of equipment, possibly made worse by a reduction of the flow of weapons, in particular heavy ones, from Russia (the so-called voentorg).  In terms of personnel, the influx of volunteers to the NDF has remained steady and strong....

Even though the Donetsk airport has finally been taken (I define "taken" not as "every Ukie killed" but as "every Ukie artillery system destroyed" because this is what matters for Donetsk), the JRF is still shelling the city the north, the west and southwest.  Furthermore, there are some very ominous signs that the JRF is preparing to try to encircle Gorlovka....

Will the ceasefire hold? The Saker seems to be of the view that it will be (significantly) broken, more than it is now, only by the JRF. The Novorossiyans will wait and see.

The situation in Ukraine itself is ... catastrophic.

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The situation in Junta-occupied Ukraine (aka "Banderastan") is one of complete chaos.  Violence (political and criminal) is everywhere and the state has more or less ceased to function.  Take for example the numerous destructions of the statue of Lenin.  First, the fact that they are being destroyed to begin with is a telling example of the Ukie ignorance of history since it was Lenin which created the Ukraine as a state, Stalin which added the western Ukraine, and Krushchev which gave the Ukies Crimea.  So they can continue to go on repeating their slogan "Комуняку на гілляку" ("commies on branches" meaning that Communists should be hanged), but the modern Ukraine is a 100% commie-made entity.... the main point is that the destruction of these statues shows that law and order are gone and the mob rule is really the only "authority left".

Second, while there are clans who fight each other inside the junta (Poroshenko vs Kolomoiski vs Liashko vs Iarosh vs Tymoshenko etc.) there is no real opposition left.  Well, I guess you could say that there is almost no real opposition left....

As far as I know, neither Levchenko nor Bondarenko are running in the next "election" since they both consider it a total farce (and, besides, since the Donbass won't participate in this election anyway, what would be the point?).  As for the Ukrainian Communist Party, it has basically gone underground, with many of its members assaulted, murdered and threatened.  The sad but undeniable reality is that there is no opposition in Banderstan, only various clans and various flavors combining neo-Nazi and oligarchic interests.

Banderastan thus has no political future to speak of.  But then, neither does it have an economic, cultural, social or any other kind of future.  The only question now is whether it will resemble more Haiti, Somalia or Iraq.  The only certain thing about the future now is that coming winter will be terrible and violent.

In conclusion ...

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On one hand, the ceasefire is being constantly and increasingly violated.  A major Ukie attack is definitely possible.  On the the other hand, the work on the creation of a buffer zone, possibly involving foreign troops, is actively being pursued and the conflict could temporarily be frozen along the current line of contact.  Both Banderastan and Novorussia are politically weak and neither is truly under the authority of one single person or group of people.  The following months will be catastrophic for the Nazi-occupied Ukraine and quite literally anything is possible there including a 3rd Maidan, a coup, local insurrections, false flag operations, assassinations and, of course, war.  In a way, the stupid trench-to-become-wall the Ukies are building along the borders with Novorussia, Russia and Transnistria might end up protecting Banderastan's neighbors from the effects of the explosion to come.

Calm Before the Storm?

The Daily Mail and the Telegraph? Really, Smith? That's like quoting the Toronto Sun and Fox News. But then, we all quote what we read, don't we?

DPR Prime Minister Zakharchenko: "We're looking to the winter with confidence."

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‘On the 15 October we started the heating season. While it isn’t freezing we’re working in a gentle mode. We have tested all the communications and the only problem is those in the military actions zone where, for obvious reasons, we haven’t had enough time to carry out restoration works. It doesn’t mean that we can’t do it; it’s just physically impossible to do it under unceasing shellings. I hope that we’ll provide people with shelter step by step; we’ll live through the winter together, in concert, perhaps, with some difficulties, but we will. Owing to our storage of coal we’re looking to the winter with confidence. It’s always possible to heat residential houses with coal. In this respect it’s easier for us,’ said the Prime Minister.

Lavrov: Russia will recognize the Nov 2 elections in Donbass.

No word on if, or when, the Ukrainian puppet regime will start bombing again. My guess is when they're counting the votes in the Donbass. Because the puppet masters in Washington really "respect" democracy. un huh.

Gorbachev's Foreign Minister, N. Ryshkov: They've lost Donbass forever.

"You cannot defeat them. They are miners. If they have to, they will go underground and fight on. "

iyraste1313 wrote:

From my limited understanding of the situation in Donetsk, from my personal experience there, the initial informal government had the local population totally behind it. It was accessible to the key sectors and their leadership.

In the west we are getting no idea of what actually is taking place off the battlefield.

There is the real potential for a genuine Peoples revolution there because of the close knit relationship between the people and their government....the social sectors and government people I met had a feel of total equality and respect amongst them. I wAS TOTALLY IMPRESSED!

There is a reason for this. In the citadels of Western imperialism, under the lidless eye of Sauron in Barad-dûr (which is called in the common language "Washington"), getting their puppet in Kiev to continue the civil war serves to undermine support for such left wing politics. There is real support among Slavs for left wing ideas that cannot be beaten out of them, God bless them. This also explains why Ukraine has had 20 years of a frothing, Russophobic educational system and why the understandable wariness of Poland and the Baltic states towards Russia has been carefully cultivated by the USA and its satellites like Canada to make Russophobia in those countries always on a near boil. It distracts attention from the good ideas of the left.

This also explains why the USA continues with its barbaric blockade of heroic Cuba. It is the "danger of a good example" as Noam Chomsky, among many others, have noted.

Today the only synonym for “peace” is “The Victory of Novorossiya”

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“In the summer, when we were based in Uglegorsk, I saw with my own eyes a child torn to pieces by a Ukrainian shell. He was only about six years old,” the Militiaman says. “Is it normal? At the punitive troops’ road blocks people are asked about the starting date of the school year. Why? To eliminate us by killing our children? That will only make us furious! If they want to fight so much—they should fight against us! They have the advantage in numbers, so why don`t they start a close-quarters attack? No, they are not brave enough for close-in fighting, firing with artillery…”

Guess where the latest volunteers in Novorossiya are coming from?

Chechen volunteers in Novorossiya!

from the Colonel Cassad live blog