It doesn't even refer to national statistics, it refers to Toronto.
Federal NDP Candidates 2015
Sun, 2014-12-07 10:43
#352
Sun, 2014-12-07 14:50
#353
terryT, this marks the 100th time you have posted this dubious statistic.
Congratulations. You will the prize for most persistent repetition.
This has been polled in Toronto at least once, and is true in the GTA.
Sun, 2014-12-07 15:47
#354
It's a good thing, in my opinion. The idea is to win over as many voters as possible to progressive politics. If true, it's too bad that Chow wasn't able to capture these voters in the last mayoral election. Hopefully they will stick to the NDP in the upcoming federal election.
Sun, 2014-12-07 18:16
#355
Jean Lapierre just tweeted
Six persons attending her nomination meeting :-(La députée Élaine Michaud met le cap sur 2015)
http://www.courrierdeportneuf.com/Actualites/Politique/2014-12-03/articl...
There was a big anti-austerity demo in Quebec City at the time. The largest community in her riding is the Quebec City suburb of Saint-Augustin-de-Desmaures. So she held her nomination meeting 45 km away at the north end of the riding in a town of 3,500 people, to give that end some attention. Maybe a bad idea.
Sun, 2014-12-07 18:26
#356
Argenteuil—La Petite-Nation: Chantel Crete and Sarah Dwyer will compete for the nomination.
A great event. Over 500 new memberships sold. One of the three new ridings in Quebec, reflecting growth in the suburbs of Montreal and Gatineau. Two excellent women seeking the NDP nomination this afternoon, both local councillors: an educator with a Ph.D., and a lawyer.
Chantel Crete won. The educator with a Ph.D. She taught at the university level for ten years, and somehow ended up leading a couple of local causes and becoming a municipal councillor in Lac-Simon. Sounds awesome.
Sun, 2014-12-07 20:28
#357
Argenteuil—La Petite-Nation: Chantel Crete and Sarah Dwyer will compete for the nomination.A great event. Over 500 new memberships sold. One of the three new ridings in Quebec, reflecting growth in the suburbs of Montreal and Gatineau. Two excellent women seeking the NDP nomination this afternoon, both local councillors: an educator with a Ph.D., and a lawyer.
Chantel Crete won. The educator with a Ph.D. She taught at the university level for ten years, and somehow ended up leading a couple of local causes and becoming a municipal councillor in Lac-Simon. Sounds awesome.
Sometimes a pic is wortt a 1,000 words. Quite an impressive turnout for the NDP nomination meeting today in Argenteuil—La Petite-Nation!
Sun, 2014-12-07 23:58
#358
NDP names candidate for Brampton North
BRAMPTON— The federal New Democratic Party (NDP) has named its election candidate in the new riding of Brampton North.
Martin Singh, a pharmacist and businessman, has been acclaimed to run in the next federal election scheduled for October 2015.
Singh was one of seven candidates in the NDP’s federal leadership race decided in 2012 and lived in Nova Scotia at the time.
He has since moved to Brampton with his family and settled in the Brampton North riding.
Born Martin Hill and raised in a Protestant family, Singh converted to the Sikh faith.
He has served as a reservist in the Canadian Forces for 10 years and had been the elected President of the NDP’s Faith and Social Justice Commission.
The new riding was created during the recent federal electoral boundaries redistribution. The number of ridings in Brampton has been increased to five from four.
The Brampton North riding encompasses most of the existing riding of Brampton Springdale.
http://www.bramptonguardian.com/news-story/5151124-ndp-names-candidate-f...
Nice to see the NDP allows its defeated leadership candidates to actually run for them.
Mon, 2014-12-08 00:20
#359
Yeah I count two former Liberal leadership candidates so far who have had unfortunate nomination accidents.
Mon, 2014-12-08 01:47
#360
Yeah I count two former Liberal leadership candidates so far who have had unfortunate nomination accidents.
It's actually four:
George Takach failed to win the nomination in Etobicoke-Lakeshore
Deborah Coyne failed to win the nomination in Ottawa-West-Nepean
Alex Burton was "gently" pushed to withdraw from the nomination in Vancouver-Granville
David Bertschi was disqualified in Ottawa-Orléans
Add Martha Hall Findlay's decision to not re-offer in Willowdale and the only leadership contestants who are running (other than Trudeau) are Garneau, Murray, and Karen McCrimmon in Kanata-Carleton.
Mon, 2014-12-08 01:56
#361
Why the Liberal Party of Canada nomination process requires serious reform.
Deborah Coyne weighs in:
The Liberal Party of Canada’s process for nominating candidates in each riding to stand for election to the House of Commons is not sustainable in a free and democratic country.
For too long, nomination races have been the ignored, undemocratic underbelly of our political system. Selecting the candidate to represent the Party in the next general election is the Party’s equivalent of the Hunger Games – an often amoral competition among insular elites, sustained by ego and personal ambition.
The process of signing up new members and getting them out to vote is so ethically challenged and devoid of any genuine attempt to engage the broader electorate that few Canadians pay any attention.
A vicious circle then sets in. Many Liberals acknowledge the shortcomings privately but, as long as the Party leadership and elites continue to tolerate the situation and as long as standing in the Party depends on the strength of one’s links to the leader’s entourage, few will risk speaking publicly. Nomination candidates who point out what is going on ‘behind the curtain’ do so at their peril. Such whistle-blowers rightly fear being kicked to the sidelines permanently, their reputations abused and their motives maligned.
Mon, 2014-12-08 04:44
#362
Why the Liberal Party of Canada nomination process requires serious reform.
Deborah Coyne weighs in:
The Liberal Party of Canada’s process for nominating candidates in each riding to stand for election to the House of Commons is not sustainable in a free and democratic country.
For too long, nomination races have been the ignored, undemocratic underbelly of our political system. Selecting the candidate to represent the Party in the next general election is the Party’s equivalent of the Hunger Games – an often amoral competition among insular elites, sustained by ego and personal ambition.
The process of signing up new members and getting them out to vote is so ethically challenged and devoid of any genuine attempt to engage the broader electorate that few Canadians pay any attention.
A vicious circle then sets in. Many Liberals acknowledge the shortcomings privately but, as long as the Party leadership and elites continue to tolerate the situation and as long as standing in the Party depends on the strength of one’s links to the leader’s entourage, few will risk speaking publicly. Nomination candidates who point out what is going on ‘behind the curtain’ do so at their peril. Such whistle-blowers rightly fear being kicked to the sidelines permanently, their reputations abused and their motives maligned.
This belongs in the Liberal Candidates Thread, doesn't it?
Mon, 2014-12-08 21:20
#363
Ok, on the thread topic of NDP candidates, I am just back from the NDP's nomination meeting in Hull-Aylmer (across the river from Ottawa). The start of the meeting was delayed 30 minutes due to a vote in the House (on the Tory budget). To make up for the delay, our local MP, Nycole Turmel, who was acclaimed for the nomination, brought a bus-load of MPs back with her. I think there were 17 or so in attendance.
Megal Leslie did a nice job as MC. Nycole gave a gracious acceptance speech followed by a fiery campaign kick-off speech. And Peter Julian gave a humorous wrap-up cum fundraising appeal. Then there was cake. Pierre Ducasse lurked in the shadows. Nycole's estranged brother John didn't show. (That's a joke, OK?)
Wed, 2014-12-10 13:46
#364
The Scarborough--Rouge Park NDP is suppose to be nominating tonight? as per Pundits http://www.punditsguide.ca/ any idea of who's running... some chatter I'm hearing indicates a locally well known cricket player?
Wed, 2014-12-10 14:16
#365
Linda McQuaig virtually tied Chrystia Freeland in the part of Toronto Centre that will be the riding of Toronto Centre post-redistribution. She proved to be a very effective candidate and built up lots of name recognition - i think she is the strongest possible candidate in 2015 in Toronto Centre - especially since the Liberals are running a rightwing business tycoon from the CD Howe Institute.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jennifer Hollett runs in University-Rosedale nnext year...but nothing will be decided or announced until after the municipal elections.
I agree that McQuaig should run again in Toronto Center. Especially because the Liberal candidate looks weak.
Spadina-Fort York, is almost certainly a losing proposition because this is where Vaughan will run. So, Hollet will be a loss there.
University-Rosedale could be a winner for the NDP, in part because Freeland is also a pretty weak candidate. Hollet might have a shot at this, and would be a good fit barring the emergence of a very strong canidate.
NDPrs in the riding keep on saying nice things about Adam Vaughan. Adam might have been an entertaining adversary of Rob Ford, but he was a pretty crappy councillor in Ward 20, and leaves as his legacy the most massive spike in density and condo-development in the history of the Ward. Plans for Alexandra Park revitalization amounted to converting public property for private profit.
Is that part of the National Housing "Strategy" that Vaughan intends to implement at the federal level? A pale comparison to the National Housing "Program" that Paul Martin axed, in order to rein in the deficit: We need a "program", not a "strategy".
1. How does Liberal candidate Bill Morneau look weak? Just wondering. He comes from a solid professional economic background. And even if the riding boundaries have changed somewhat, re-distrbution still favours the Liberals. With the Liberals up in Ontario & the GTA since 2011, I think the NDP will have a challenge winning in Toronto Centre.
2. How is Freeland weak? I would agree that she's not a naturally charismatic campaigner the way Justin Trudeau or Jack Layton is, but not everyone has that type of personality & connection with the voters. She won by 13 points over Linda MacQuaig in 2013, despite a very strong challenge from the NDP.
3. Yes, Adam Vaughan has already been nominated as the Liberal candidate for Spadina-Fort York. This is where Jennifer Hollett plans to run. That's what she said on Twitter on March 17, 2014:
https://twitter.com/jenniferhollett/status/445656518944251904
Wed, 2014-12-10 14:51
#366
Linda McQuaig virtually tied Chrystia Freeland in the part of Toronto Centre that will be the riding of Toronto Centre post-redistribution. She proved to be a very effective candidate and built up lots of name recognition - i think she is the strongest possible candidate in 2015 in Toronto Centre - especially since the Liberals are running a rightwing business tycoon from the CD Howe Institute.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jennifer Hollett runs in University-Rosedale nnext year...but nothing will be decided or announced until after the municipal elections.
I agree that McQuaig should run again in Toronto Center. Especially because the Liberal candidate looks weak.
Spadina-Fort York, is almost certainly a losing proposition because this is where Vaughan will run. So, Hollet will be a loss there.
University-Rosedale could be a winner for the NDP, in part because Freeland is also a pretty weak candidate. Hollet might have a shot at this, and would be a good fit barring the emergence of a very strong canidate.
NDPrs in the riding keep on saying nice things about Adam Vaughan. Adam might have been an entertaining adversary of Rob Ford, but he was a pretty crappy councillor in Ward 20, and leaves as his legacy the most massive spike in density and condo-development in the history of the Ward. Plans for Alexandra Park revitalization amounted to converting public property for private profit.
Is that part of the National Housing "Strategy" that Vaughan intends to implement at the federal level? A pale comparison to the National Housing "Program" that Paul Martin axed, in order to rein in the deficit: We need a "program", not a "strategy".
1. How does Liberal candidate Bill Morneau look weak? Just wondering. He comes from a solid professional economic background. And even if the riding boundaries have changed somewhat, re-distrbution still favours the Liberals. With the Liberals up in Ontario & the GTA since 2011, I think the NDP will have a challenge winning in Toronto Centre.
2. How is Freeland weak? I would agree that she's not a naturally charismatic campaigner the way Justin Trudeau or Jack Layton is, but not everyone has that type of personality & connection with the voters. She won by 13 points over Linda MacQuaig in 2013, despite a very strong challenge from the NDP.
3. Yes, Adam Vaughan has already been nominated as the Liberal candidate for Spadina-Fort York. This is where Jennifer Hollett plans to run. That's what she said on Twitter on March 17, 2014:
https://twitter.com/jenniferhollett/status/445656518944251904
Wed, 2014-12-10 15:20
#367
Linda McQuaig virtually tied Chrystia Freeland in the part of Toronto Centre that will be the riding of Toronto Centre post-redistribution. She proved to be a very effective candidate and built up lots of name recognition - i think she is the strongest possible candidate in 2015 in Toronto Centre - especially since the Liberals are running a rightwing business tycoon from the CD Howe Institute.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jennifer Hollett runs in University-Rosedale nnext year...but nothing will be decided or announced until after the municipal elections.
I agree that McQuaig should run again in Toronto Center. Especially because the Liberal candidate looks weak.
Spadina-Fort York, is almost certainly a losing proposition because this is where Vaughan will run. So, Hollet will be a loss there.
University-Rosedale could be a winner for the NDP, in part because Freeland is also a pretty weak candidate. Hollet might have a shot at this, and would be a good fit barring the emergence of a very strong canidate.
NDPrs in the riding keep on saying nice things about Adam Vaughan. Adam might have been an entertaining adversary of Rob Ford, but he was a pretty crappy councillor in Ward 20, and leaves as his legacy the most massive spike in density and condo-development in the history of the Ward. Plans for Alexandra Park revitalization amounted to converting public property for private profit.
Is that part of the National Housing "Strategy" that Vaughan intends to implement at the federal level? A pale comparison to the National Housing "Program" that Paul Martin axed, in order to rein in the deficit: We need a "program", not a "strategy".
1. How does Liberal candidate Bill Morneau look weak? Just wondering. He comes from a solid professional economic background. And even if the riding boundaries have changed somewhat, re-distrbution still favours the Liberals. With the Liberals up in Ontario & the GTA since 2011, I think the NDP will have a challenge winning in Toronto Centre.
2. How is Freeland weak? I would agree that she's not a naturally charismatic campaigner the way Justin Trudeau or Jack Layton is, but not everyone has that type of personality & connection with the voters. She won by 13 points over Linda MacQuaig in 2013, despite a very strong challenge from the NDP.
3. Yes, Adam Vaughan has already been nominated as the Liberal candidate for Spadina-Fort York. This is where Jennifer Hollett plans to run. That's what she said on Twitter on March 17, 2014:
https://twitter.com/jenniferhollett/status/445656518944251904
1 - Morneau is not Freeland, Freeland was a highly toughed "star" candidate, during the by-election basically McQuaig and Freelands mutual star power cancelled each other out. While Morneau will ride the Trudeau wave, McQuaig has the star power and experience and recognition in her favour. Morneau has indeed a professional background, his company is a large provider of outsourcing... not the most progressive business. Working for the right-win CD Howe shows hes most likely on the right of the party, not really the best suited for TC. Re-distribution removes the Liberals safest and wealthiest areas, particularly where he would do well out, while keeping strong but more socially liberal upper-middle class areas (Cabbagetown, St.Lawrence) areas that are ripe for conversion to Champagne Socialist :P . This is a challenge for both the Liberals and the NDP to win, neither should assume they have it in the bag like the Liberals seem to think they do.
Wed, 2014-12-10 16:06
#368
TC is my riding. I don't think anyone in the riding has ever heard of Morneau who lives on the Bridle Path.
Linda made a very good impression in the by-election and is positively loved by her supporters. She appeals to New Democrats across the ideological spectrum. She will have a very large and dedicated campaign team which should not be underestimated.
Wed, 2014-12-10 18:46
#369
Linda McQuaig is not a household name, although I'm sure her name recognition increased during the by-election last year.
I haven't heard her announce a run yet, so it's hard to know what her plans are.
Not everyone who runs for office is well-known though, so it may not matter that Bill Morneau isn't well-known as long as the provincial trends are solid for the Liberals.
As for Toronto Centre, we must keep in mind that in 2011 the NDP benefited from the Layton wave and the Ignatieff collapse. The riding may not be as favourable next time around.
Wed, 2014-12-10 20:11
#370
The Scarborough--Rouge Park NDP is suppose to be nominating tonight? as per Pundits http://www.punditsguide.ca/ any idea of who's running... some chatter I'm hearing indicates a locally well known cricket player?
The NDP candidate acclaimed in Scarborough-Rouge Park tonight is Kanthratnan Shanthikumar (also goes by Shanthi Kumar).
Wed, 2014-12-10 22:28
#371
As for Toronto Centre, we must keep in mind that in 2011 the NDP benefited from the Layton wave and the Ignatieff collapse. The riding may not be as favourable next time around.
But then the NDP vote rose from 30% in 2011 to 36% in the 2013 byelection that was with Mulcair as leader with Ignatieff replace by Boy Justin. How do you think tyhat happened?
Wed, 2014-12-10 23:49
#372
Absence of Conservative vote. Indeed the Liberals increased their vote share by an even greater degree than the NDP. In the by-election, the Conservatives just didn't vote or voted strategically -- mind you with the Rosedale segment out of play, I think we will see good play for McQuaig who is already campaigning in the riding.
Perhaps the Liberal guy can do some kind of wine and caviar luncheon in St. Jamestown to motivate the voters in his favour on the issue of "income inequality"?
Thu, 2014-12-11 00:45
#373
As for Toronto Centre, we must keep in mind that in 2011 the NDP benefited from the Layton wave and the Ignatieff collapse. The riding may not be as favourable next time around.
But then the NDP vote rose from 30% in 2011 to 36% in the 2013 byelection that was with Mulcair as leader with Ignatieff replace by Boy Justin. How do you think tyhat happened?
Yes, and the Liberals rose from 40% to 49%. Meaning that the Liberals under Chrystia Freeland and Justin Trudeau won Toronto Centre by a larger margin than the party did in 2011. They increased their lead over the NDP.
Most significantly, Toronto Centre is the only riding where NDP vote share has increased since Trudeau has been leader. It has fallen in all other ridings. By contrast, Liberal vote share has risen significantly in every one of the 11 by-elections held since the Spring of 2013.
Justin is not a boy, btw. He turns 43 this month. He has 2 boys of his own.
Thu, 2014-12-11 01:22
#374
Another possibility may be Bourassa which inherits a sizable chnk of Ahuntsic
In 2011:
Lib 40.9
NDP 32.3
Bloq 16.1
With the redistribution this narrows to:
Lib 38.5
NDP 32.4
Bloq 19.0
I don't think the NDP is looking seriously at Bourassa at this point in time. You're quoting the 2011 numbers, but don't forget that there was a by-election in 2013 in which the Liberal vote share went up by 7 points and the NDP vote share dropped by 1 point. And that was despite the NDP running a high-profile candidate with multiple visits from Tom Mulcair to the riding.
The 2013 By-election in Bourassa resulted in the following vote:
Liberal - 48%
NDP - 31%
BQ - 13%
CPC - 4%
http://www.parl.gc.ca/About/Parliament/FederalRidingsHistory/hfer.asp?La...
So Emmanuel Dubourg won by 17 points in 2013. I don't think he's in any danger of losing unless Liberal numbers tank in Montréal.
Since the NDP won't be able to focus so intensely on Bourassa during a general election, it's unlikely they would win there with the Liberal vote likely to be up significantly in Montreal from 2011. And MP Emmanuel Dubourg will have a couple of years of incumbency by 2015, as well.
It's interesting to note at Pundit's Guide that the NDP does not have a candidate in Bourassa yet, or indeed in any of the other Liberal-held seats in Québec. This could just be coincidental or it could be because people in the NDP assume that the Liberals will hang onto the seats they won in 2011 during the Orange Wave.
http://www.punditsguide.ca/parties/?party=4&elec_event=43&pane=1
The NDP will also be at risk of losing seats in Québec in the next election. For example, Honoré-Mercier not far away stands a good chance of reverting to the Liberals. It was Liberal for many years until 2011 and only went NDP by a small margin. Former MP Pablo Rodriguez is running to win the seat back. And there are several other seats like that in the Montréal area.
Thu, 2014-12-11 06:01
#375
To answer some of Debater's recent propaganda:
1. My point about Bourassa is that redistribution weakens the Liberal hold on Bourassa considerably. There is also a 19% Bloc vote which can be squeezed in the NDP's direction.. My understanding is that Stephane Moraille, who kept the NDP's % from 2011, is in fact going to run again.
Debater always crows about byelections but ignores the fact that the only Quebec by-election showed the Orange Wave was maintaining itself.
The NDP can also take advantage of the stultifying Liberal complacency and entitlement reflected in Debater's post.
2. Although Freeland increased the Liberal share in TC a poll by poll analysis shows it was mostly in Rosedale. The Conservatives, who came second in Rosedale in 2011, saw their vote collapse and shift to Freeland to beat the leftist McQuaig. The Liberal increase south of Bloor was tiny by comparison. And of course redistribution has removed Rosedale.
Thu, 2014-12-11 11:25
#376
FYI former CFTO news anchor Tim Weber has announced his intention to take on NDP Dan Harris for the Liberals in Scarborough Southwest
Thu, 2014-12-11 14:01
#377
FYI former CFTO news anchor Tim Weber has announced his intention to take on NDP Dan Harris for the Liberals in Scarborough Southwest
That's all well and good for Mr. Weber, isn't this an NDP candidate thread?
On a side note are there any other perspective LPC candidates for Scarborough Southwest or have they been bared or discuraged from running by the liberal's very open and honest green light commity?
Thu, 2014-12-11 14:18
#378
There were a couple of candidates running for the Liberal nomination in Scarborough Southwest, but I think one of them has withdrawn now. One had been endorsed by former Liberal MP Michelle Simson.
I think Michelle Simson may now be endorsing Tim Weber. There's an article on the Liberal Nominations thread with some of the details.
Thu, 2014-12-11 14:31
#379
Yes, well as long as the Liberal slate is weighted down with patrician media stars, I am good.
Thu, 2014-12-11 14:36
#380
FYI former CFTO news anchor Tim Weber has announced his intention to take on NDP Dan Harris for the Liberals in Scarborough Southwest
That's all well and good for Mr. Weber, isn't this an NDP candidate thread?
On a side note are there any other perspective LPC candidates for Scarborough Southwest or have they been bared or discuraged from running by the liberal's very open and honest green light commity?
You didn't read that I wrote Dan Harris is the NDP candidate for Scarborough Southwest.
Once Tim Weber name was put forward, all the other Liberal candidates dropped out of the running.
Leaving Mr. Weber to be likely acclaimed.
Thu, 2014-12-11 15:07
#381
Dan Harris is a sitting MP, it goes without saything that he's the NDP candidate.
Thu, 2014-12-11 16:40
#382
Dan Harris is a sitting MP, it goes without saything that he's the NDP candidate.
Don't sitting NDP MP also have to go through the nomination process? Or are they all 'acclaimed' as the candidate.
Thu, 2014-12-11 16:53
#383
Good question,
Though they do have a nomination meeting and unsualy an acclaimation, they don't go through the whole nomination process ie. background checks ect. as normal hopefulls like myself do.
I haven't real heard of a sitting MP being challanged (NDP at lest), I know it happens with Tories and Liberals from time to time, but even then it's rare and usualy due to internal factioning within the EDA.
Thu, 2014-12-11 17:23
#384
Getting dizzy from our liberal spin doctors. liek debaters chestnut that McQuaig isn't well known. She use to be a columnist at the most read paper in canada, and basically the only slightly center one available. Guess that means no one knows who chantal hebert is either 
Thu, 2014-12-11 17:58
#385
Chantal Hebert is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful member of Canada's most watched political panel.
Thu, 2014-12-11 18:00
#386
LOL
Thu, 2014-12-11 20:29
#387
I haven't real heard of a sitting MP being challanged (NDP at lest), I know it happens with Tories and Liberals from time to time, but even then it's rare and usualy due to internal factioning within the EDA.
Actually Tyrone Benskin is being challenged for renomination by Allison Turner in Ville Marie-Sudouest-Iles des Soeurs and that may not be the last case of a weak NDP incumbent in Quebec being challenged for nomination.
Thu, 2014-12-11 20:32
#388
I haven't real heard of a sitting MP being challanged (NDP at lest),
Sitting NDP MP Bev Desjarlais lost the nomination to Niki Ashton.
Thu, 2014-12-11 21:12
#389
Re Scarborough SW: its recent fed Liberal history and tradition hasn't exactly been "Justin progressive" (think Tom Wappel)
Thu, 2014-12-11 21:24
#390
Re Scarborough SW: its recent fed Liberal history and tradition hasn't exactly been "Justin progressive" (think Tom Wappel)
Dan Harris was on Beyond Politics and spoke about this issue. In his various runs in this riding, he kept telling voters if they want a progressive voice he was it. Not Wappel, who is anti-choice, anti marriage-equality and so regressive.
Fri, 2014-12-12 03:27
#391
I haven't real heard of a sitting MP being challanged (NDP at lest),
Sitting NDP MP Bev Desjarlais lost the nomination to Niki Ashton.
I didn't know about that one. well I guess it does happend then, just not that often.
Fri, 2014-12-12 03:50
#392
Re Scarborough SW: its recent fed Liberal history and tradition hasn't exactly been "Justin progressive" (think Tom Wappel)
Dan Harris was on Beyond Politics and spoke about this issue. In his various runs in this riding, he kept telling voters if they want a progressive voice he was it. Not Wappel, who is anti-choice, anti marriage-equality and so regressive.
Except that Wappel retired a couple of elections ago! Michelle Simson, who is pro-choice, was the Liberal MP in 2011!
Harris should keep in mind that as was the case with many NDP MP's elected in 2011, a large part of his vote was a result of the Orange Wave & Ignatieff collapse, not his own personal popularity.
Harris is likely to face a strong challange from the new Liberal candidate in 2015, as the riding does have a strong Liberal history federally, and is Liberal provincially.
Fri, 2014-12-12 04:00
#393
To answer some of Debater's recent propaganda:
1. My point about Bourassa is that redistribution weakens the Liberal hold on Bourassa considerably. There is also a 19% Bloc vote which can be squeezed in the NDP's direction.. My understanding is that Stephane Moraille, who kept the NDP's % from 2011, is in fact going to run again.
Debater always crows about byelections but ignores the fact that the only Quebec by-election showed the Orange Wave was maintaining itself.
Why is it that everything I post is 'propaganda' (even when backed up by actual numbers) but what you post is Gospel?
What I said about Bourassa was that since 2011, there has been a by-election there. A by-election in which the Liberal vote increased, despite a strong challenge from the NDP. And while the NDP vote 'maintained itself' relatively speaking, it actually dropped by about 1 point rather than going up. So that's not necessarily a good sign.
And btw, in general there is only so much we can learn from 2011 numbers, re-distributed or otherwise. In 2011 there was the lowest Liberal vote in history and the highest NDP vote in history. Since then the Liberal vote has gone up considerably, and the NDP vote has dropped. People can't assume the voting percentages are going to be the same - in Bourassa, or anywhere else.
2013 By-election in Bourassa
LPC (+7.21)
NDP (-0.84)
BQ (-3.04)
CPC (-4.17)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourassa_(electoral_district)
http://www.parl.gc.ca/About/Parliament/FederalRidingsHistory/hfer.asp?La...
Fri, 2014-12-12 04:04
#394
I haven't real heard of a sitting MP being challanged (NDP at lest),
Sitting NDP MP Bev Desjarlais lost the nomination to Niki Ashton.
I didn't know about that one. well I guess it does happend then, just not that often.
Bev was a special case because she broke "whipped policy" on same sex marriage.
It is too the NDPs credit that they let her contest the nomination, as opposed to stepping on the constituency association.
Fri, 2014-12-12 05:33
#395
Because everything you do say is propaganda debater. It is an extremely rare post where you are not trumpeting supposed Liberal glory or denigrating the NDP. And in unctuous carping sneering tones.
You should understand that you don't fool anyone here. You have long since lost any presumption of good will.
Fri, 2014-12-12 09:35
#396
Re Scarborough SW: its recent fed Liberal history and tradition hasn't exactly been "Justin progressive" (think Tom Wappel)
Dan Harris was on Beyond Politics and spoke about this issue. In his various runs in this riding, he kept telling voters if they want a progressive voice he was it. Not Wappel, who is anti-choice, anti marriage-equality and so regressive.
Except that Wappel retired a couple of elections ago! Michelle Simson, who is pro-choice, was the Liberal MP in 2011!
Harris should keep in mind that as was the case with many NDP MP's elected in 2011, a large part of his vote was a result of the Orange Wave & Ignatieff collapse, not his own personal popularity.
Harris is likely to face a strong challange from the new Liberal candidate in 2015, as the riding does have a strong Liberal history federally, and is Liberal provincially.
Actually it was just two elections ago. He retired in 2008, and Michelle Simson won that year. Defeated by Harris in 2011.
Harris did run against Whappel twice, and kept telling voters about his regressive stance on many of the issues. But to avail. It looks like the riding was voting for the party, not Whappel.
Which could of been the case with Harris, as he was riding that Orange wave.
Fri, 2014-12-12 11:50
#397
Big news. Chris Charlton says she will not run for re-election in Hamilton-Mountain.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/chris-charlton-won-t-run-for...
Fri, 2014-12-12 13:20
#398
Rosemary Barton@RosieBarton9m9 minutes ago
Long-time NDP MP @LibbyDavies to announce she will not run in the 2015 election. #hw #ndp
Fri, 2014-12-12 13:54
#399
Nooooooooo!
Fri, 2014-12-12 13:54
#400
Rosemary Barton@RosieBarton9m9 minutes ago
Long-time NDP MP @LibbyDavies to announce she will not run in the 2015 election. #hw #ndp
Well, that's a major loss.
Fri, 2014-12-12 14:02
#401
Sad.