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Jesse Brown and Canadaland

Very interesting interview on the state of journalism in Canada.

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Brown, a former CBC radio host and columnist for Maclean's, Toronto Life and Saturday Night, launched "Canadaland" in October of last year with a video criticizing The Globe and Mail for running a long series of stories depicting the Millennial generation as, in his words, "narcissistic", "selfish" and "lazy." And things only got more controversial from there.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/10/27/jesse-brown-jian-ghomeshi-canada...

 

NorthReport

Great article Smith.

Maybe there is some hope for Canada's sick mainstream media after all.

NorthReport

Digital media expert who co-wrote Ghomeshi story speaks in Markham

http://www.yorkregion.com/news-story/4958584-digital-media-expert-who-co...

NS NS's picture

I watched the interview he did with Glenn and i could see even bigger national stories coming to light. Stories no one wants to tell us ie Rob Ford or CSEC for various reasons.

radiorahim radiorahim's picture

You can subscribe to the Canadaland podcast without iTunes using Clementine Player

Clementine Player is available for GNU/Linux along with evil operating systems like Windows and MacOSX.

Unionist

There's this:

[url=http://freethepresscanada.org/2015/01/27/jesse-brown-withholds-ghomeshi-... Brown Withholds Ghomeshi Evidence, Fails To Disclose CBC Conflict[/url]

 

NorthReport

Fabulous article. 

In Praise of Reporters Who Stir the Pot

Media critic Jesse Brown is making waves -- and a few enemies -- in journalism circles.

I burst out laughing when I saw this predictable Globe and Mail headline: "Jesse Brown is quick to expose the failures of Canadian media. But what about his own?"

Contrary to what you may have heard, nobody in the trade likes investigative reporters much, and most hacks are openly hostile to the ones who start covering other media.

Brown, who has been subjected to finger wagging and called a muckraker, is the independent podcaster who broke the story about CBC's Amanda Lang and her conflicts-of-interest. (The Globe and Mail has been running her self-serving op-eds related to the story).

Before that, Brown and the Toronto Star led the investigation into Jian Ghomeshi's antics.

But it appears he's offending many of his fellow journalists who are bleating about his supposed lack of "ethics" and "professionalism." One called his investigation of Lang "sexist."

Personally, I have no opinion about the kerfuffle beyond this: When it comes to the history of muckraking, 'twas ever thus. No one likes a boat-rocker. No one other than readers, that is.

The brouhaha over Brown reminded me of the attacks on one of my favourite investigative journalists, Jessica Mitford, who was christened "Queen of the Muckrakers" by Time Magazine in 1970. Being a transplanted British aristocrat, she had to look up the American term.

"I discovered that 'muckraker' was originally a pejorative coined by President Theodore Roosevelt to describe journalists like Lincoln Steffens and Ida Tarbell, who in his view had gone too far in exposing corruption in government and corporate enterprise," Mitford writes in the introduction to a collection of her articles, Poison Penmanship: The Gentle Art of Muckraking. "Thus the Oxford English Dictionary says, 'muckrake... is often made to refer generally... to a depraved interest in what is morally unsavoury or scandalous."

"I fear that does rather describe me," Mitford adds.  Laughing

And a good thing too. If you've buried a loved one at a reasonable price any time since the early 1960s it's likely you have Ms. Mitford to thank for it. Her investigation into the sleazy practices of the funeral trade led to a series of articles and a legendary book, The American Way of Death, which in turn led to legislation all over North America that put some constraints on those wily undertakers.

 

http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2015/01/29/In-Praise-of-Muckrakers/

NorthReport

Myself, I'm kinda glad Ghomeshi is no longer on the CBC radio, but to each their own I suppose.

NorthReport

CBC Puts Reality TV Exec in Charge of New Radio

Donut Showdown producer plans to "push [radio] visually"

http://canadalandshow.com/article/cbc-puts-reality-tv-exec-charge-new-radio

NorthReport

CBCecrets: Mansbridge's Oil Pay Makes the News

How the story happened

http://canadalandshow.com/podcast/cbcecrets-mansbridges-oil-pay-makes-news

Unionist

NorthReport wrote:

Myself, I'm kinda glad Ghomeshi is no longer on the CBC radio, but to each their own I suppose.

Didn't read the article, did you?

KenS

The weight of evidence about Ghomeshi is so compelling that at a minimum it is good riddance to him as public figure.

And Jesse Brown is not to be compared to Ghomeshi, but he doesn't exactly come out smelling like a rose.

NorthReport

That was Mitford's point, wasn't it.

Catchfire Catchfire's picture

Unionist, I am no fan of Jesse Brown, but that blog is a horrible piece of conspiracy theory, character assassination and reckless, irresponsible and confused journalism.

Unionist

Catchfire wrote:

Unionist, I am no fan of Jesse Brown, but that blog is a horrible piece of conspiracy theory, character assassination and reckless, irresponsible and confused journalism.

I thought the same when I read it - which is why I linked to it without comment. And I'm glad you said that. It hurled so much crap around that I honestly didn't know what to think.

 

NorthReport

Who operates that website?

KenS

I essentially agree.

I am not sure what is in there. And at a minimum it is hard to follow.

That said, its not just not liking Jesse Brown. And over the top self promotion is something I dont like- not in my books enough to condemn a person as someone I should not trust.

But its a good thing the case against Ghomesh is really strong anyway. [I'm talking about whether he deserves a chance at rescuing his public reputation, not the strength of the criminal charges against him.] Because Brown's narrative about him is pretty tainted. The component evidence will have to live or die on its merits, in other people's hands.

KenS

Or maybe its just a case that there is a bad smell coming from the whole affair... not just Ghomeshi himself. And its hard to differentiate who and what stinks so much.

Bad journalism and playing at character assassination could account for all of that stink that does not belong to Ghomeshi, but i do not really think that is the case.

NorthReport

Catchfire, I am a fan of Jesse Brown because without him Ghomeshi would still be hosting Q and not exposed and taken down for his behavior with women.

What's not to like about that!

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Catchfire wrote:

Unionist, I am no fan of Jesse Brown, but that blog is a horrible piece of conspiracy theory, character assassination and reckless, irresponsible and confused journalism.

Unionist

NorthReport wrote:

Who operates that website?

Looks like Amy MacPherson. She is one controversial person!

 

NorthReport

Thanks Unionist

And it says in this article that she has covered national politics for the CBC. Frown

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/amy-macpherson/

 

Catchfire Catchfire's picture

Here's a critique of Brown's approach to this story that I like:

Around the six-minute mark in that interview, Veri described watching Ghomeshi harass a co-worker, who was also a friend. Veri was not the hero in his story. Though he had clearly been horrified by the harassment, he also described remaining silent as Ghomeshi humped a fellow producer from behind as she stood at her desk, presumably with other producers nearby as well.

It was notable to me that a bystander who had not stopped the harassment had agreed to describe the situation, and his involvement in it. How many times have you witnessed injustice and done nothing, or felt that you could not speak up? How many times have I? What hasn't changed is this: when you're not the captain, it is terrifying to rock the boat. 

"The only good outcome of this is justice for victims," said Veri, and Brown seemed to agree.

What I heard from these two men was this: stoic acceptance of a painful fact of life. The two of them seemed to feel it inevitable that everyone will sometimes witness harassment; there's nothing to be done about it. Sexual harassment exists in the workplace, and the best that can be hoped for is justice for the victims. 

I hope for justice too, but it's certainly not the best thing I can hope for. In fact, it is only one of my hopes for what might grow from the pile of crap this news story has revealed. 

I haven't heard much from Brown that convinced me he wanted to work for systemic change that would support women in the workplace -- and he seems particularly blind to his own complicity and perpetuation of that structural imbalance.

NorthReport

Taking on the CBC's radio media darling sound quite courageous to me.

I suppose stopping Ghomeshi doesn't count for anything.

Unbelievable.

Catchfire Catchfire's picture

Yes, that's what I said. Stopping Ghomeshi doesn't count for anything.

Well spotted.

6079_Smith_W

The one thing in that blog that made me raise my eyebrows is the notion that people in that building would NOT know each other. A bit ridiculous.

Beyond that, it is fair comment, if an obvious attempt at payback. The competition thing is just a smear, though to be expected. I have to say, in the 12 hours before the initial Ghomeshi story broke the possibility of professional jealousy was in my mind.

Brown should have declared that personal relationship; all it would have taken was breaking the fourth wall for a bit - something I have heard radio journalists do plenty of times in the middle of a story. There was nothing preventing him from doing the story. I don't see that it undermines the story or his work.

What this is is evidence that if you want to go after something big, nasty and powerful you have to be extra careful to stay squeaky clean.

No, stopping Ghomeshi doesn't count for anything if you fuck up and break the rules yourself. Ghomeshi learned that one. This is a completely different order of offense, but it is with good reason that we don't give people a pass just because they happen to do some good work.

 

rhubarb

While it doesn't seem that Jesse Brown is pristine in character it appears to me to be a rather typical effort to make Jesse Brown the story rather than the misdeeds of CBC employees such as Amanda Lang or Peter Mansbridge

Unionist

rhubarb wrote:

While it doesn't seem that Jesse Brown is pristine in character it appears to me to be a rather typical effort to make Jesse Brown the story rather than the misdeeds of CBC employees such as Amanda Lang or Peter Mansbridge

"Typical effort"... typical of whom or what? You seriously think this is some months-after-the-fact attempted whitewash by some powers-that-be? That seems far-fetched and very conspiratorial - unless you want to provide some evidence of links between the CBC and the whitewashers?

Sometimes tin foil is just tin foil, you know.

 

jas

Unionist wrote:

Looks like Amy MacPherson. She is one controversial person!

I'll say! Look at all her wacky conspiracy theories published in the Huffington Post!

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/amy-macpherson/

NorthReport

Bingo!

That is exactly what this is

CBC is seeking big time revenge against town

Thank goodness for people like Brown who have the courage to be David in this Goliath story

rhubarb wrote:

While it doesn't seem that Jesse Brown is pristine in character it appears to me to be a rather typical effort to make Jesse Brown the story rather than the misdeeds of CBC employees such as Amanda Lang or Peter Mansbridge

rhubarb

I suppose the image of "Jesse Brown, snitches get stitches" written in fridge magnets, posted in a CBC newsroom that the President of the

Canadian Media Guild confirmed, doesn't mean anything. See photo in January 2015 archives, http//canadalandshow.com/archive/201501

Conspiracy theory, no theory that I can see, retaliation more like it. And not for Gomeshi but for the Amanda Lang story in December of 2014.