Voter Supression Liberal Style
Tue, 2015-02-10 19:17
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Voter Supression Liberal Style
Tue, 2015-02-10 19:20
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Voters lose in Trudeau’s deal with Adams: Editorial
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau’s decision to welcome ex-Conservative Eve Adams into his party feeds public cynicism.
Yet there was Trudeau on Monday morning, trying to put a bright shiny bow on what was obviously a crass move on both sides. He praised Adams’ “passion and commitment” to public service and went on about how impressed he had been with her in recent weeks.
For her part, Adams disclosed a previously unknown distaste for the “mean-spirited” leadership and “divisive” politics of the Conservative party — the same party she had been a faithful member of for 25 years. “I want to work with someone who inspires, not with fear-mongers and bullies,” she said.
Despite this unseemly switching, Trudeau can at least claim to have lured a prominent Conservative into his ranks. If his intention is to build a bigger Liberal tent, that’s something. And the possibility that Adams’ fiancé, the former top Harper aide Dimitri Soudas, might also share his secrets with Team Trudeau must have been a factor as well.
All this would be just another day at the office for our national politicians if it weren’t for the corrosive effect on public trust in major institutions. That has been sliding for many years – no matter the partisan complexion of the party in power. And it shows no sign of stopping: just over a year ago an EKOS Research poll found that 59 per cent of Canadians see our democracy as sick, up 22 percentage points from 2009. Asked what worried them most about the country, respondents cited “the acute decline of our democratic and public institutions.”
Trudeau himself is clearly aware of all this. It was just weeks ago that the Liberal leader told the Star in a year-end interview that almost nine years of Conservative rule have produced a legacy of “cynicism” among voters.
He was right about that. Too bad he has chosen to add to that legacy with such an opportunistic maneuvre.
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/2015/02/10/voters-lose-in-trud...
Tue, 2015-02-10 19:21
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alan smithee
Voter suppression 'Liberal' style?
Are you just willfully ignorant of REAL voter suppression 'Harper' style?. The (un)Fair election bill just to name but one.
Tue, 2015-02-10 19:37
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Gee, NR started another Liberal bashing thread. Didn't see that one coming.
Tue, 2015-02-10 19:40
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Liberals don't like to own their own shit, eh josh!
Tue, 2015-02-10 19:41
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alan,
All two wrongs make is more right-wingers it seems.
And Debater desperately trying to change the channel by posting his usual in other threads will not help Trudeau here with this self-inflicted mess.
What in the world is Justin Trudeau thinking by taking on Eve Adams?
Meantime, this episode will stand as one of Liberal leader Justin Trudeau’s biggest errors thus far, utterly unforced, in an election pre-season that had been going rather well for him. Though probably not crippling – it may wash away eventually, particularly if Ms. Adams loses her bid for a nomination — this can do him and his party considerable harm. The reason is Mr. Trudeau’s brand, deliberately selected and honed for this moment in our history. A putative reformer must act as a reformer would. Floor-crossing, with its inevitable freight of treachery and backroom skulduggery, does not fit the paradigm.
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What it looks like, quite a lot, is the old Liberalism, the old Conservatism, the old politics. As such it is nothing so much as a gift to the New Democrats and Greens — who can say, with immense relief, that they were nowhere near this puddle when the others fell in.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/02/10/michael-den-tandt-what-in-the-wo...
Tue, 2015-02-10 19:51
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montrealer58
That is pretty good considering it is the National Post!
The author also touches on a generalized NDP issue:
"Floor-crossing, with its inevitable freight of treachery and backroom skulduggery, does not fit the paradigm. "
He says that Adams will be 'unfamiliar' in Eglinton-Lawrence. However, if this circus continues, she will not be unknown. Joe Volpe is also here, so there are going to be intertwisted Liberal rivalries. Adams may be able to connect with one of those groups through sleazy manipulation tactics, which would definitely be possible for someone who Den Tent said had a "streak of loopy narcissism".
I think the Star went over the line a bit depicting Adams as the Ikea Monkey.
I do not know how a Liberal can get up in the morning and look in the mirror after events like this.
Tue, 2015-02-10 19:56
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I refuse to post in a thread where "suppression" is misspelled in the title.
Whoops!
Tue, 2015-02-10 21:03
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I'm so glad for Tom Mulcair's healthy principles as Tom's light is starting to shine much more brightly with each passing moment as we get more and more of a glimpse of the inner-Trudeau at work.
Tue, 2015-02-10 21:16
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This is yet another sad day in the history of Canadian politics.
Shame Liberals!
NDP REALITY CHECK: Record of manipulation, bullying and dirty tricks?
Was this the commitment to public service that so impressed Justin Trudeau?
Canadians deserve better.
http://voiceoftoronto.com/wp/2015/02/ndp-reality-check-record-of-manipul...
Tue, 2015-02-10 21:33
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Trudeau, you had a choice!
Debater will be so proud of this, a member of his beloved CBC At Issues Panel who he loves to quote ad infinitum as the gospel on Canadian politics.
Coyne: Liberals buy into Adams’s lack of Tory support
But it was not Adams who was called upon to deliver the day’s most crawlingly demeaning performance. That honour was reserved for Justin Trudeau. Adams, after all, was desperate. Trudeau had a choice. That he chose to receive her, not with a shrug of “hey, a seat’s a seat,” but in the same spirit of feigned high-mindedness, proves beyond a doubt his fitness for the rigours of high office.
Not many would be capable of declaring, with a face that betrayed not a hint of the gut-emptying shame that roiled within, how “impressed” he had been in recent weeks with Adams’s “commitment to public service.” In a particularly painful flourish, the Liberal leader paid tribute to the amount of “soul-searching” she must have gone through before taking such a momentous decision.
At a guess, a search of Adams’s soul could be conducted in the course of your average smoke break, if not between cigarettes. (Soul-searching? Are we entirely certain that when she looks in the mirror, an image appears?)
Yet Trudeau professed to be delighted with his new recruit, as untroubled by her serial loyalties as by the voluminous baggage she brings.
The comparison has been made with an earlier news conference, and a similar display of jaw-dropping self-abasement: that day in 2005, when Belinda Stronach crossed from the Conservatives to the governing Liberals, just in time to deliver the single vote (“the margin of heiress”) they needed to cling to power, and Paul Martin assured everyone “this is not about politics.”
In this case, by contrast, the real business of the transaction would seem to lie elsewhere: namely, in securing the behind-the-scenes c
o-operation of Soudas, and the secrets he possesses. For that, Trudeau would endure any indignity, though we will probably not see Soudas beside him on a stage any time soon.
“Paris is worth a mass,” the future Henry IV declared, on converting to Catholicism. And power, it seems, is worth a mess.
http://www.canada.com/news/Coyne+Liberals+into+Adams+lack+Tory+support/1...
Tue, 2015-02-10 21:34
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I do not know how a Liberal can get up in the morning and look in the mirror after events like this.
You seem naive to me. It's all about strategy. You can't take anything at face value.
Tue, 2015-02-10 21:38
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So pondering, what ministry do you think Justin should give Eve?
Tue, 2015-02-10 21:42
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Hi mods - please correct my typo in the word suppression in the thread title so poor Unionist can post here after all and thanks. 
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Tue, 2015-02-10 21:48
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I think anyone who is questioning how creating voter cynicism impacts voter turn out hasn't been paying attention.
Tue, 2015-02-10 21:53
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montrealer58
I can't take an absolutely crapulent and self-serving political machination by a Tweedle-Dum Tory and a Tweedle-Dee Liberal at face value? I just call what I see. This is vile, foul, and disgusting, and the journalistic community and the political community (including several Liberals) also seem to agree.
Anyone who would continue to support the Liberals after this would be the definition of 'naive'.
Trudeau could have hung her out to dry, which is what she deserved. She could have sat as an independent.
Tue, 2015-02-10 22:12
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Methinks the LIBs may have the last laugh here.
It is highly unlikely that dear Eve will win a Liberal nomination ... anywhere.
In the mean time another rat leaves the (we hope) sinking ship and gets more attention than peace-seeking Merkel or a for-show-only cabinet shuffle.
Tue, 2015-02-10 22:12
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Misfit
Any update on what Carolyn Parrish thinks of this? They are Liberal sisters now.
Tue, 2015-02-10 22:20
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I do not know how a Liberal can get up in the morning and look in the mirror after events like this.
You seem naive to me.
Ye gods. Accusations of being naive from the last person left in Canada who still thinks Justin didn't break his promise for a fair and open nomination process. What an inside-out place babble has become. Up is down. Black is white. The Liberals are trustworthy.
Any chance your world is coming out on blue-ray someday so we can all enjoy it?
Tue, 2015-02-10 22:31
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I do not know how a Liberal can get up in the morning and look in the mirror after events like this.
You seem naive to me.
Ye gods. Accusations of being naive from the last person left in Canada who still thinks Justin didn't break his promise for a fair and open nomination process. What an inside-out place babble has become. Up is down. Black is white. The Liberals are trustworthy.
Any chance your world is coming out on blue-ray someday so we can all enjoy it?
I never interpreted his promise with the purity that others did. I'm saying this is normal politics. It would be naive to think otherwise. The NDP is no less cynical in their political calculations.
Tue, 2015-02-10 22:40
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montrealer58
If being a Liberal supporter requires this much cynicism and depravity, you can have it.
Tue, 2015-02-10 22:41
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Misfit asked about what Carolyn Parrish thinks of this. A few gems from her Twitter feed today (@carolynhparrish):
- Star says Eve of Reducton. More like Eve of Destruction. A sad burn out! Ruined her own career and drags other fools with her. Lethal lady.
- According to Wikipedia, Dimitri Soudas is listing himself as a LIBERAL today! Again, he's the prize. She's the bow on top!
- Dimitri Soudas is more "insider" that Harper's underwear! He's the Liberal prize in an election year. Eve Adams is only the pink bow on top!
Tue, 2015-02-10 22:51
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I never interpreted his promise with the purity that others did.
Well, since you don't think he broke his promise, you must have interpreted "open nominations" as "rigged and fixed nominations". I guess if you make up your own meanings for words, nobody is ever lying about anything.
I'm saying this is normal politics.
Normal Liberal politics, yes.
It would be naive to think otherwise. The NDP is no less cynical in their political calculations.
Aren't they? believe me, I know they're not perfect, but just as bad as this? Let's put that to the test. Justin promised there would be a fair and open nomination process, then he did the exact opposite. Can you point to a promise Mulcair made where he immediately did the exact opposite?
Tue, 2015-02-10 23:10
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Another clear demarcation line between the left-wing progressive NDP and the right-wing reactionary Liberals and Conservatives.
You can readily see the differences between them:
The NDP who do NOT under any circumstances accept FLOOR-CROSSERS
and
And the Liberals and the Conservatives who DO accept FLOOR-CROSSERS
The voters can decide whether or not principled government is of importance to them.
Wed, 2015-02-11 06:11
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alan smithee
Methinks the LIBs may have the last laugh here.
It is highly unlikely that dear Eve will win a Liberal nomination ... anywhere.
In the mean time another rat leaves the (we hope) sinking ship and gets more attention than peace-seeking Merkel or a for-show-only cabinet shuffle.
+1
Thu, 2015-02-12 10:07
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Adams was also connected, albeit peripherally, to the Guelph robocalls scandal: Michael Sona, who was subsequently found guilty of setting up the misleading calls, was working in her office when the story broke in 2013. Adams was reportedly ordered to fire him by then party director Jenni Byrne.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/all-about-eve-adams-the-backstory-1.2953154
Thu, 2015-02-12 17:28
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She will certainly get your vote TerryT...l.
Thu, 2015-02-12 17:29
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swallow
Terry! Your needle's stuck.
Thu, 2015-02-12 19:30
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Nicky & Swallow it has already worked in the Ontario election and the mayor's race in Toronto, Vancouver and Winnipeg.
Plus Eve has snapped up Tom Allison who is the mastermind behind both the Ontario election and the mayor's race in Toronto this past year.
Why not go 5 for 5?
Thu, 2015-02-12 19:30
#30
All Eve Adams has to say all day everyday from now until election day is
"You can vote to STOP the Harper Conservatives. But you can't do that by voting NDP. That actually will not STOP Harper"
If she repeats that line over and over again, she will win in a landslide.