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Wrath of -redacted-
Tue, 2015-03-10 18:33
#1
Wrath of -redacted-
Tue, 2015-03-10 18:40
#2
So I don't take issue with banning this guy, nor even with closing his two threads. But I'm really curious why the closure was all of a sudden (seeing as how buddy hadn't posted anything in the last seven days) but even moreso as to why his name had to be removed. Trolls get bounced all the time without their names being deleted.
When his obsession started to seem a bit hinky I took to my friend, Google, to see if there was ANYTHING in his unusual name that might shed some light on what his deal was, or that might link him to other posts on other internet forums, and other than the name of a sports bar in Ireland and a few clearly unrelated individuals with that name, I got complete bupkiss. Googling his full screen name turned up nothing but his posts on babble.
Without repeating his redacted name, can you give us any clue or hint as to what's the deal with that name? Something I could Google, or a search term to add, or whatever?
Tue, 2015-03-10 18:41
#3
bagkitty
With a title like that (yeah it lured me in) I can hardly wait for the actual posting.... c'mon Magoo, some of us are waiting...
[ETA] damn, timing is really everything isn't it - was hoping to get this in before Magoo had finished composing his...
Tue, 2015-03-10 21:32
#4
The name was probably the real name of the person he was impersonating. It was obvious, from post #1, that he was posting to aggrandize the group he was claiming we should all be afraid of. It was moronic that anyone was even engaging him. But yeah, I guess measles and neo-nazis and discussing a not-so-soon election in 85 redundant threads is where the Canadian left needs to focus its energies.
Tue, 2015-03-10 21:50
#5
I assume it's a footie thing.
My working theory is that CF is in the pocket of the Wycombe Wanderers, who are paying him to expunge babble of any reference to the vice-captain of their hated rival, Colchester United.
Tue, 2015-03-10 22:56
#6
Maybe the quota for nazi hunter threads has been reached.
Wed, 2015-03-11 07:51
#7
Wil Magoo be receiving a response to his question?
Wed, 2015-03-11 09:09
#8
Wil Magoo be receiving a response to his question?
I'll venture to answer his two questions:
... why the closure was all of a sudden (seeing as how buddy hadn't posted anything in the last seven days)
Babblers kept on responding to his provocations after he stopped posting - and the thread was on the verge of being revived on March 8. As with the shutting down of anything counterproductive, better late than never. Plus - his impersonation efforts might just have come to the mods' attention:
... but even moreso as to why his name had to be removed.
Because he was obviously using a real person's name for nefarious purposes. If he were posting under "Wrath of [Caissa's real name]", I think we would justifiably ban him and delete those references.
Wed, 2015-03-11 09:38
#9
If I had to venture a guess, I would suppose that He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named was actually the very same Dr. [sic] James Sears being called-out in the thread.
Likely game plan:
- Make outlandish claims about Toronto Nazis under a false name,
- Drum up supporters ready to take to the streets with pitchforks and torches,
- Portray self as innocent victim of crazy pinkos (including the real holder of his screen name) who have delusions of Nazis under the bed,
- ???
- Profit.
Wed, 2015-03-11 10:16
#10
Maybe the quota for nazi hunter threads has been reached.
Good one - seriously. I was thinking that if there is some reason why threads need to be shut down just because they don't seem productive to some people
(and why... does babble pay for webhosting by the word or something?)
... you'd think the first to go would be the dozen or so eastern European threads that have shown no sign of resolution, common ground, or even reasonable conversation in the past year.
Or yeah... sports. THat's the first thing that springs to mind when I think of progressive social change.
Wed, 2015-03-11 10:50
#11
... you'd think the first to go would be the dozen or so eastern European threads that have shown no sign of resolution, common ground, or even reasonable conversation in the past year.
Quite understandable for you to wish that it were so, considering that they're becoming more inconvenient by the day with the barrages of information from all over the world. The sought after common ground that you mention here has to come from a reasonable assessment of events, which can only be facilitated by discussion around diverse information. The regurgitation of Breedlove's boilerplate and the other stuff that has come out of the assortment of talking heads at NATO does require a degree of balance if proper assessments are to be made, as some European media outlets and intelligence outfits have come to realize.
Wed, 2015-03-11 11:02
#12
There's a big difference between threads about Ukraine, or elections, or sports, etc., where there is room for debate and disagreement and diversity of sources about important issues - and some asshole agent provocateur trying to promote some irrelevant Nazi by pretending to oppose him. I'm quite sure we are capable of making such distinctions.
Wed, 2015-03-11 12:21
#13
Catchfire
Hey Magoo, sorry my explanation wasn't clearer, but folks here have it right. The real "redacted" contacted us two days ago alerting us to the imposter -- I hadn't seen the thread beforehand, but I see others rightly suspected that it was a hoax anyway. His name had to be changed because the real "redacted" worried about his safety. That's fairly reasonable and it is definitely better to err on the side of caution in these cases, particularly when the only one worse off is the hoaxer.
Wed, 2015-03-11 13:36
#14
Quite understandable for you to wish that it were so, considering that they're becoming more inconvenient by the day with the barrages of information from all over the world.
Jesus Christ, SJ. Are you so determined to disagree with me that if I suddenly saw the light and recognized Vladimir Putin as the saviour of the free world that I'd be wrong about that too?
I said I honestly agreed with you. If you have any sense of rhetorical argument you'd realize I wasn't actually calling for those threads to be closed, but making an argument against indiscriminate closure. Do they only allow you black and white crayons in philosophy school?
Fuck! The stupid, it hurts!
Wed, 2015-03-11 13:41
#15
And yeah, I wasn't thinking so much of this sock puppet as the other thread closure, and other comments. I responded here because of the comment by my good friend and comrade in the struggle Slumberjack.
(tongue in cheek, but honest)
Wed, 2015-03-11 14:11
#16
I hadn't seen the thread beforehand, but I see others rightly suspected that it was a hoax anyway.
A few posts in, I think pretty much everyone was smelling something hinky, but buddy wasn't being offensive so much as just single-minded and unyielding.
His name had to be changed because the real "redacted" worried about his safety. That's fairly reasonable and it is definitely better to err on the side of caution in these cases, particularly when the only one worse off is the hoaxer.
Fair enough. I'd considered this, but more or less ruled it out (thinking that you can't really identify a person by just a surname).
For obvious reasons I'm personally hoping you never get a similar e-mail from Stephen Magoo. :)
Wed, 2015-03-11 14:45
#17
Catchfire
MegB gets those emails all the time but I write them myself. She hasn't bought it yet.
As for the name, it was unique enough that googling it turned up only a few hits with just the name. Add the city and there is little room for doubt.
Thu, 2015-03-12 05:12
#18
If you have any sense of rhetorical argument you'd realize I wasn't actually calling for those threads to be closed, but making an argument against indiscriminate closure. Do they only allow you black and white crayons in philosophy school? Fuck! The stupid, it hurts!
It's not my fault that you squandered much of whatever 'benefit of the doubt' you might have had by supporting the NATO and Ukrainian militia narratives lo these many months. Curious that you should now turn around to accuse others of colouring events in black and white crayon.
Thu, 2015-03-12 07:49
#19
I just did a doubletake. "The wrath of redacted" thread title on my version of the webpage at least is shortened to "Wrath of" and then the name of the latest poster appears. So I just saw "The wrath of Slumberjack" which has now been updated to "The wrath of SIO" --not that I am feeling any wrath but I do find it rather funny.
Thu, 2015-03-12 08:14
#20
Curious that you should now turn around to accuse others of colouring events in black and white crayon.
Well no, I was actually trying to agree with you, which is what makes this kind of absurd. What "events" are you talking about? All I said about that other thread is that there hasn't been much in the way of agreement or conversation, if being productive is the excuse for closure that is being used; it wasn't a request that it be closed.