Is the US and its NATO "allies" planning to attack Russia and start World War III?

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Top Russia Scholar Stephen Cohen: War Between NATO and Russia A Real Possibility (podcast)

http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/03/20/4761

*Must Hear*

An Interview with Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/25/an-interview-with-paul-craig-robe...

"...I think Washington is lost in hubris and arrogance and is more or less insane. Also, there is a belief that the US can win a nuclear war with Russia. There was an article in Foreign Affairs around 2005-2006 in which this conclusion was reached.

The belief in the winnability of nuclear war has been boosted by faith in ABM defenses. The argument is that the US can hit Russia so hard in a pre-emptive first strike that Russia would not retaliate in fear of a second blow..."

ikosmos wrote:

Many think that the US is planning to attack Russia DIRECTLY in the future.

Anyone not brainwashed (like the zombified Russophobic elements in Ukraine) knows that, at the very least, a second Cold War, based on fabrications and speculation about Crimean independence, Russian troops "invading" Ukraine to support the resistance in Novorossiya, and the shooting down of the Malaysian airliner over the war zone has already begun. Huge US pressure on its obsequious EU and NATO allies has caused these countries enormous and expensive sanctions, costing them billions, against Russia. Meanwhile, Russia has "pivoted" eastward, towards China, the BRICS countries, and away from the aggressive Yanqui Empire.

Is this scare-mongering or a real danger? Is this an idea that should be ridiculed, as some babblers have already done, or examined seriously as a significant global danger.

Unless you think thermonuclear war is a laughing matter, which some babblers obviously do, then the subject looks to be worthy of serious investigation.

more to follow ..

For anybody not already doing so Paul Craig Roberts. org is an excellent blog to follow and stay on top of what is really going on over there.

I just read a report this morning there are huge NATO exercises and deployments on Russia's borders now taking place.

His blog also provides other very good links to follow

Awe, someone needs a little Dr Strangelove (en)... and why stop there... 10, 20 million killed tops, depending on the breaks.

(post contains an easter egg, see if you can find it)

Russia Warns NATO Drills a "Problem' as US Attack Planes Buzz Poland (and vid/podcast)

http://rt.com/news/244317-usa-poland-thunderbolt-drills/

"Four US A-10 Thunderbolt II attack planes are taking part in war games in Poland, as the nation expects about 10,000 NATO forces at drills this year. Moscow says the military build-up at Russia's borders will have a negative long-term impact. On Wednesday, Polish Defense Minister Tomasz Siemoniak, who is also deputy prime minister, said that he approved of the constant presence of NATO troops in his country. ' We are striving for it. We are preparing the ground for their constant presence', Tass quoted him as saying.

On Wednesday, Russia's envoy to NATO, Aleksandr Grushko, pointed out that Russia hasn't 'substantially increased the number of its military drills, while the military activity of NATO has escalated, 'shaping a new military reality. Today's problem is not Russia's military activity, but the increased military activity of NATO. Every other day new military exercises take place...'

Another part of Russia's concern is the possibility of US weapons deliveries to Ukraine. 'Weapons supply activity from the US to Ukraine are fraught with a failure of a shaky truce in Donbass and outright threaten Russia's security,' the Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman said, pointing out it undermines the Minsk Agreements and calls into question the plans of US and NATO."

'We are at 3 minutes to midnight: After twelve we're finished.' - Noam Chomsky

Wow, four A-10 Thunderbolts... Russia is doomed.

Obama Declares 'National Emergency' Based on Alleged Cyber Threats From Russia, China

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/04/03/cybe-a03.html

"US President Barack Obama issues an executive order Wednesday declaring a 'national emergency' over cyberattacks on US targets. 'The same technologies that keep our military strong are used by hackers in China and Russia to target our defense contractors and systems that support our troops...Our primary focus will be on cyber threats from overseas.

The supposed threat of cyber attacks against US companies and infrastructure is a major component of US war propaganda aimed at preparing public opinion for war iwth a number of targets, above all China and Russia..."

 A war.with China and Russian would effectively end the US. They can't even beat ISIS. This will continue to be a war via posturing, proxies, and Cyber attacks.

Mr. Magoo wrote:

 

But when it comes to Russia, you'd think there could be no greater transgression of human rights than to blow a raspberry.

What a brain Magoo!

(not to mention the currency, the oil market and European trade)

oh and the Boeing.

ps is that a Breedlove in your pocket or are you just trying to be friendly?

*Must Read* : Eurasian Emporium or Nuclear War?  -  by Pepe Escobar

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/08/eurasian-emporium-or-nuclear-war/

"...So we're back to the EU, Russia and China, and everyone in between, all joining the greatest trade emporium in history, across the whole of Eurasia. That's what Putin proposed in Germany a few years ago, and that's what the Chinese are already doing.

And what do the neocons propose?

A nuclear war on European soil."

It's all Russian spin attempting to set up the justification for Russia's next military move based on it being surrounded by NATO and some imaginary army big enough to invade it. That and the claims of "ethnic" whatever to justify miliary intervention. You and your buddies here have drank that kool aid long ago.

It isn't lefties, socialists, progressives or liberals who are spouting all this Russia propaganda here; it's you anti imperialism at any cost obsessive's.  

Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

it's you anti imperialism at any cost obsessive's.  

Well one brand of imperialism, anyway.

The Kremlin and the Neocons  -  by Ray McGovern

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/15/the-kremlin-and-the-neocons/

"...Despite the debacle in Iraq and elsewhere, the neocon 'crazies' still exercise huge influence in Establishment Washington. [Not to mention 'progressive' Canada] Thus, the question now becomes whether, with Russia far more stable and much stronger, the 'crazies' are prepared to risk military escalation with Russia over Ukraine, what retired US diplomat William R Polk deemed a potentially dangerous nuclear confrontation, a 'Cuban Missile Crisis in reverse.?'

A ground war with Russia would be just as idiotic now as it would have been in any of the past decades to 1945.

There may be Curtis LeMay types in the Pentagon who want to start bombing in 5 minutes. America extends power by its threat of a first strike, which is the LeMay doctrine in a nutshell. And yes, you will run into millions of idiotic armchair generals in the United States who think they can win a ground war with Russia.

There are however the vast majority of Americans (whose ranks can reach as high as the Oval Office) who restrain such primal urges. LeMay, for example, said to bomb Cuba, and Kennedy said that a naval blockade would do. Many plans were made to invade Cuba, but they were all stopped in official Washington. Cuba existed, and now relations are being normalized. This was 90 miles off the coast of Florida.

Some of us look at other than doom scenarios. This is not to grant that such doom scenarios are impossible. But on the positive side, a deal with Iran could mean a deal with Russia. Tehran would be a good place for talks with Russia, as it has been in the past.

The EU-Russia-China trading bloc is too much of an opportunity for the world, to be screwed up by some stupid war. China wants to build a high-speed rail link which will cut the trip from Beijing to Moscow from 7 to 2 days. I don't think China is going to stand idly by if the US launches an illegal attack on Russia on its western front.

The war-mongering right-wing American types are losing political ascendancy, yet many of them still hold on to minor levers of power. Obama will not instigate such a war. Clinton, however, is much more of a war monger, so if it does get worse with Russia it will likely be after Inauguration Day in 2017. Any war with Russia would escalate to a nuclear situation, so I think the chances of it starting in the first place are very slim.

This fear of a giant war with Russia could be a huge troll. There are people who are using Marxist, Stalinist, and Soviet chauvanist and revisionist propaganda and their opposites to raise fear levels.

Montreal58's remarks are spot on by me. But many warmongers in USA are not "right-wing" They're Democrats like Clinton, Susan Rice, Samantha Power, Anne-Marie Slaughter

montrealer58 wrote:

This fear of a giant war with Russia could be a huge troll. There are people who are using Marxist, Stalinist, and Soviet chauvanist and revisionist propaganda and their opposites to raise fear levels.

Yup.

The Crimes of Others: Noam Chomsky in Conversation

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/29643-the-crimes-of-others

Stephen Cohen has argued that we're closer to war with Russia than we have been since the Cuban missile crisis. Do you think he's overstating the crisis in Ukraine?

Noam Chomsky;

"I don't think so.

I mean the government that came in after the coup - the parliament voted almost unanimously to pursue membership in NATO. As Cohen and many others have pointed out, that is something utterly intolerable to any Russian leader. It's kind of as if the Warsaw Pact had taken over South America and was now going to include Mexico and Canada. So, yeah, that's serious.

It's interesting the way Putin is treated. I think it is maybe in the same ME Journal I read recently, talking about supporting the US position on the Ukraine, and some serious person saying this will be opposed by North Korea, the Islamic State and Stephen Cohen.

*To question the US position on Ukraine means you will receive threats from Stalinist apologists and get a bitter pronounciation of dismissal and ridicule.

It's serious. I mean look, Gorbachev agreed to the unification of Germany - and even its incorporation with NATO, which is an amazing concession if you look at history. But there was a quid pro quo: that NATO would 'not expand one inch to the east,' that was the phrase, meaning to East Germany.

Once NATO had expanded to East Germany, Gorbachev was infuriated. He was informed by the Bush 1 administration that it was only a verbal promise. It wasn't on paper, and the implication is if you're dumb enough to accept a gentleman's agreement with us, that's your problem.

Then Clinton came in, expanded NATO to the borders of Russia. And now it's gone further, even to Ukraine, which is right at the heart of, apart from historical connections, of Russian geo-strategic concerns. That's very serious.

[There is] not only little coverage but what there is, is insane. I mean it's all about what a lunatic Putin is. THere's an article in one of the psychology journals about how he must have Asperger's or some other articles about how he has brain damage.

I mean, you can like him or not, but his position is perfectly understandable..."

US-NATO Antics in the Nuclear Playground

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/17/us-nato-antics-in-the-nuclear-pla...

"...The anti-Russia spy antics of the US are fully in line with the war-talk of Breedlove and his NATO colleagues who are beavering away in their brand new billion dollar combat palace in Brussels to justify existence and expansion of their war-machine.

Russia's actions have been propagandized accordingly, and the US spy flights are intended to provoke Moscow into taking action which can be used to escalate tension yet further.

It would all be childishly funny were it not for the fact that Breedlove and his people are playing with the future of Europe and indeed the world.

They are leading us to the nuclear threshold and must be reined in before they stumble into ultimate confrontation..."

Michael Moriarity wrote:

I remember reading Herman Kahn's book "Thinking about the Unthinkable" in the 1960s. I was horrified by the matter of fact way this disgusting little monster of a man could write about millions of deaths as though they were simply numbers.