Trudeau on Bill BLair "I have dedicated myself to trying to draw great people into politics"

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Mon, 2015-04-27 21:30

thorin_bane

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/justin-trudeau-bill-blair-defend-record-...

"For all his experience elsewhere, that connection to community as a politician, while deeply informed by his years as a beat cop, is a different experience when you're asking for people's vote," Trudeau said.

"One of the things you've all seen from me over the past two years is that I have dedicated myself to trying to draw great people into politics," Trudeau said to explain Blair's appearance

You know the kind of guy who admits he like Harpers tough on crime agenda while at the same time tap dances around the issues of Human Right abuses during the G20 summit. BUT BUT BUT

"We had a very, very truncated period of time in which to prepare. There was very little time to train our officers and put them through various scenarios, but we did our best. And I acknowledge that we faced some very significant challenges, particularly when violence began to occur and the destruction of property," Blair said.

"I know that the citizens of my city and across this country had concerns about how that event was policed. As the chief of police in Toronto, it was my responsibility to try to answer those questions."

Which he never did. Good thing this Trudeaus kinda guy.

Tue, 2015-04-28 06:41

thorin_bane

Another parachute candidate from the Liberals

http://blogs.windsorstar.com/news/schiller-acclaimed-to-run-for-federal-...

Frank Schiller’s roots are so deep in Windsor-Tecumseh they dragged him back home from Ottawa to become the Liberal candidate in the riding.

Schiller was acclaimed the party’s candidate at a nomination meeting Monday night at the Tecumseh Legion Hall

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“I think that now is the time to look at voting Liberal, it’s time to elect a government that cares, like Mr. Trudeau said last January when he came to Windsor, Windsor matters, it sends an important message, and I’m going to work hard to send a message to the people of Windsor-Tecumseh over the coming campaign,” said Schiller.

After Schiller was acclaimed and before his speech he ambled through the crowd shaking hands as Fleetwood Mac’s Don’t Stop Thinking About Tomorrow blasted through the speakers.

Yep no one could be found in the windsor area so a nobody is the answer. Not Sure if he realizes what the word 'Care' means and really I could care less unless he has policy to back it up.

Tue, 2015-04-28 20:58

thorin_bane

I would have thought some kind of reaction from these two articles. Oh right busy in the union thread with huruph and indignation.

Tue, 2015-04-28 21:08

NorthReport

Tue, 2015-04-28 22:16

David Young

So...a high profile former Toronto policeman becomes a federal party candidate...

Didn't work for Julian Fantino...why would it be any different here?

Tue, 2015-04-28 22:27

Sean in Ottawa

This stuff is par for the course - what else is there to say?

Wed, 2015-04-29 07:37

Maysie

Puke.

Justin Trudeau says he won’t second-guess Toronto police over conduct at G20 summit

Quote:

“I’m not going to Monday morning quarterback decisions made five years ago by the chief of police,” Trudeau said when asked about the summit in 2010. High-ranking police officers were blamed for excessive use of force and widespread violations of citizens’ rights in the face of riots and protests during the meeting of international leaders.

ONE BILLION DOLLARS spent on a 3-day meeting

MASSIVE civil rights violations

GROSS incompetencies by the police under Blair's watch.

Over 1000 people detained illegally (not arrested)

...none of this is noteworthy to say since JT is kissing Blair's ass. Way to go, Liberals!

Wed, 2015-04-29 07:53

Slumberjack

Yep. Great people....into politics. My ass.

Wed, 2015-04-29 13:19

Jacob Two-Two

Jesus, what a chump Justin is. Notice he didn't say that what happened was good or bad, he said that he's not going to make a judgement call on it, and even presents this as a virtue somehow. Guess what, doorknob? If you actually want to lead the country, being critical of police that commit civil rights abuses is absolutely part of your duties. It's not overstepping your bounds, it's called doing your friggin' job.

I swear there has never been a worse candidate for Prime Minister in all of Canada's history.

Wed, 2015-04-29 16:31

#10

montrealer58 montrealer58's picture

The Liberals have lost all credibility as a party which stands for civil rights in Canada.

Wed, 2015-04-29 19:29

#11

swallow

Maysie wrote:

Puke.

Justin Trudeau says he won’t second-guess Toronto police over conduct at G20 summit

Quote:

“I’m not going to Monday morning quarterback decisions made five years ago by the chief of police,” Trudeau said when asked about the summit in 2010. High-ranking police officers were blamed for excessive use of force and widespread violations of citizens’ rights in the face of riots and protests during the meeting of international leaders.

Other things Justin Trudeau will not "Monday-morning quarterback" --

1) residential schools. "So what if it was cultural genocide? Not gonna Monday-morning quarterback!"

2) chipping away at civil liberties by Harper government. "Police state getting loser? Maybe! But I'm not gonna Monday-morning quarterback!"

3) destruction of the moderately good things done by Pierre Trudeau's government. "So they destroyed a legacy? Not my problem! I'm no Monday-morning quarterback!"

4) erosion of social welfare system. "I hear there's cheap angel cake and dented tins of tuna out there. I'm no Monday-morning quarterback."

5) destruction of stable funding support for women's groups, court challenge programme, development groups, etc. "Sure they did a lot of good, but let's not talk about that. I wouldn't want to Monday-morning quarterback!"

6) Colonialism. "Maybe Europeans were right to pillage and conquer msot of the world. Maybe they were not. I can't say. No Monday-morning quarterback, me."

7) residential schools apology. "Sure, Mr Harper apologized. I'd never apologize. For anything. Ever. I'm no Monday-morning quarterback."

Wed, 2015-04-29 19:33

#12

Pondering

So do you think the NDP will make a critical comment on Blair running for the Liberals in connection to the G20 protests?

Wed, 2015-04-29 22:38

#13

thorin_bane

They may come election time, hard to say. I would venture its a certainty at the riding level.

Thu, 2015-04-30 01:29

#14

Sean in Ottawa

This is another example of Trudeau fence-sitting -- to say he will not examine or judge the G-20 protests curtailment of civil liberties.

Perhaps this will not hurt Trudeau much -- the reason I say this is he already has lost the respect of so many people that perhaps the ones who still respect him are immune now to anything he does or does not do -- or they are not paying attention. A year ago it is possible that I might have lost some respect for him but at this point there is no more respect to lose.

I am not surprised anymore when Trudeau does something that is clearly unwise.

I think if Trudeau becomes PM he will leave that office hated as much as Mulroney, Harper and others. However, I doubt it will take so very long for people to tire of him.

Thu, 2015-04-30 11:31

#15

montrealer58 montrealer58's picture

Trudeau has his father's enduring personality as an albatross as well. Unless you were a Trudeaumaniac in the 1970s (and you have not realized the Liberal Party has betrayed its few principles), there is no reason to like the Trudeau name at all.

Some people say "Oh well he let my parents into the country, so I must vote for his son". Whoever let your parents into the country, you have the right to vote your own interest, which is one of the things which makes this country a better place to live than many others.

The only way they are going to defend this way of life is to vote NDP. Trudeau will be on the side of Harper, when it comes to Kettle, Render, Camp, and Gitmo. The current-day Liberals and Conservatives are unconcerned with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which is one thing you can credit Trudeau the Elder with.

The current Liberal-Conservative government takes sides in foreign wars, so if you are from a community which has a disfavoured side as its origin, your community leaders may be subject to surveillance, arrest, and detention. Trudeau's complicity in C-51 means he supports this sick way of doing international business we would not have even done under Mulroney, let alone Trudeau.

Having a burgeoning multicultural community depends on us not taking sides in foreign wars, unless we are under UN orders.

Thu, 2015-04-30 18:41

#16

Slumberjack

Sean in Ottawa wrote:
I think if Trudeau becomes PM he will leave that office hated as much as Mulroney, Harper and others. However, I doubt it will take so very long for people to tire of him.

He's got a pretty good head start on that already.

Fri, 2015-05-01 08:28

#17

Maysie

I've been angry about the G20 injustices for almost 5 years. JT would never have been on my radar about that until he supported the top jackass in charge of the fiasco, for which there has been no accountability and no consequences for the brass.

I have no idea what the ONDP would say about Blair, but given their fear of offending the cop-lovers of Toronto, they'd probably shy away from any non-partisan conversations.

As for Scarborough Southwest, a Liberal bastion until the last election, I hope the NDP runs someone great (or the incumbent who I've never heard of) who will kick Blair's ass.

The Liberals came in third last time, by the way.

Fri, 2015-05-01 11:13

#18

Pondering

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/04/25/bill-blair-to-run-for-libe...

Blair joined the police force in 1976, following the career path of his father, who was also a Toronto officer. He took over as chief in 2005 and is credited with boosting the diversity of the force and putting a focus on community policing.

But his tenure was not without criticism or controversy, notably during the 2010 G20 summit held in Toronto, when police came under fire for their detention and treatment of protesters.

More recently, Blair has faced criticism for the police practice of carding, which involves stopping, questioning and documenting citizens. Critics say the tactic unfairly targets black men and has undermined police efforts to improve community outreach.....

“I understand the very real threat that terrorism presents to Canadian society and I think we’ve got to do everything we can to fight extremism and violence,” he said.

But he said that the communities impacted by radicalization cannot be further isolated as part of that terror fight.

“Their help is critically important. I would not in any way further alienate them or isolate them. I would want to include them in the solution,” he said.

He shares Trudeau’s view on legalizing marijuana. The Conservatives have condemned Trudeau’s stance, but Blair said the current laws have done little to keep marijuana out of the hands of young people or organized crime from profiting from its sale.

“The decision to sell marijuana to a 14-year-old is often made by a gangster behind some apartment building,” Blair said.

“I think legalization, as long it’s coupled with regulation, is the way forward,” he said.

Blair brings an expertise in the obvious areas of law and order, justice and national security.

But during a lengthy conversation with the Star, he put an equal focus on what he says are other essential elements to a successful city — diversity, investment and opportunity for young people, which he says are vital to tackling issues such as poverty, discrimination and crime.

In the following interview he condemns racial profiling but defends carding as a tool police need.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1970766/bill-blair-backs-legalization-of-marij...

On the controversial issue of carding, Blair also said he supports its function as a vital policing tool, which used in the proper way, is an effective crime fighting tool.

“It’s the strongest document in support of the Canadian Charter of Rights and the Human Rights Code, people’s privacy interest of any policing policy anywhere in the country, and most people complaining about it haven’t read it,” said Blair.

“It’s a legitimate, legal, necessary appropriate action, but only if it’s done right.”

Blair said officers are trained not to stop the public based on racial profiling or forms of discrimination.

“If their decision on who to stop is based on bias, racist, if it’s racial profiling, that’s wrong. It’s unlawful,” he said.

“The critics inflate the two notions that policing can potentially lead to racism, and therefore stop policing. We can’t stop policing. We need to police the right way and that’s a bias-free way.”

He has a mixed record, and the G20 is a black mark, but from what I have read his prospects in Scarborough are good.

Fri, 2015-05-01 11:33

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Pondering

thorin_bane wrote:

Another parachute candidate from the Liberals

http://blogs.windsorstar.com/news/schiller-acclaimed-to-run-for-federal-...

Yep no one could be found in the windsor area so a nobody is the answer. Not Sure if he realizes what the word 'Care' means and really I could care less unless he has policy to back it up.

Schiller grew up in Riverside and left to attend Carleton University in Ottawa and the London School of Economics. He stayed in Ottawa and served in the offices of many Liberal cabinet ministers, including former deputy prime minister the late Herb Gray.

The riding is currently held by the NDP’s retiring Joe Comartin...

One of those attending the meeting and who rose to second Schiller’s nomination was former Windsor Walkerville NDP MP Harold McCurdy.

Schiller doesn't appear to be a "nobody" and neither the NDP nor the Conservatives seem to have found anyone yet.

Fri, 2015-05-01 11:34

#20

Pondering

Tim Weber, longtime CTV journalist and a previously high-profile candidate for the Liberal nomination in Scarborough Southwest, has withdrawn from the race and thrown his support to former Toronto police Chief Bill Blair.

Weber joined Blair at a Scarborough burrito shop Thursday, where Blair officially launched his campaign, to formally withdraw and offer a public show of support.

"I want us to have the best chance possible of electing a Liberal this fall and that is why ... I have decided to drop out of the race and support Bill Blair as our Liberal candidate," Weber said in a statement posted to his website.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/tim-weber-bows-out-of-scarborough-...

Sun, 2015-05-03 02:19

#21

thorin_bane

I live in Windsor Pondering, no one knows who this parachute candidate is, makes the Quebec NDP placeholders from 2011 seem good by comparisons, guy hasn't lived here in 25 years. Do you have any idea what the demographics are here, school of economics plays about as well as saying you are conservative, something we haevn't elected in memory, but I suppose you know better than someone who lives here right.

Nothing says standing up for and understanding your constituants by living 900 KM away for the majority of your life.

Sun, 2015-05-03 09:31

#22

Pondering

thorin_bane wrote:

I live in Windsor Pondering, no one knows who this parachute candidate is, makes the Quebec NDP placeholders from 2011 seem good by comparisons, guy hasn't lived here in 25 years. Do you have any idea what the demographics are here, school of economics plays about as well as saying you are conservative, something we haevn't elected in memory, but I suppose you know better than someone who lives here right.

Nothing says standing up for and understanding your constituants by living 900 KM away for the majority of your life.

That you don't know him doesn't make him a nobody. Are you not pleased to have someone so easy to beat in the riding? Is Harold McCurdy also a nobody?

Sun, 2015-05-03 09:55

#23

montrealer58 montrealer58's picture

Anyone who supports Bill Blair and calls themselves a progressive is simply a hypocrite.

Sun, 2015-05-03 12:05

#24

thorin_bane

Pondering wrote:

thorin_bane wrote:

I live in Windsor Pondering, no one knows who this parachute candidate is, makes the Quebec NDP placeholders from 2011 seem good by comparisons, guy hasn't lived here in 25 years. Do you have any idea what the demographics are here, school of economics plays about as well as saying you are conservative, something we haevn't elected in memory, but I suppose you know better than someone who lives here right.

Nothing says standing up for and understanding your constituants by living 900 KM away for the majority of your life.

That you don't know him doesn't make him a nobody. Are you not pleased to have someone so easy to beat in the riding? Is Harold McCurdy also a nobody?

As for that its from the right wing windsor star and as usual this moronic paper got it wrong. The only NDP member I met was Howard McCurdy, so they may be pulling this out of their ass like usual anyway. Sounds the same though doesn't it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_McCurdy Not that Howard was on the left side of the party anyway. He was a Rae favourite.

Sun, 2015-05-03 12:35

#25

Pondering

thorin_bane wrote:

Pondering wrote:

thorin_bane wrote:

I live in Windsor Pondering, no one knows who this parachute candidate is, makes the Quebec NDP placeholders from 2011 seem good by comparisons, guy hasn't lived here in 25 years. Do you have any idea what the demographics are here, school of economics plays about as well as saying you are conservative, something we haevn't elected in memory, but I suppose you know better than someone who lives here right.

Nothing says standing up for and understanding your constituants by living 900 KM away for the majority of your life.

That you don't know him doesn't make him a nobody. Are you not pleased to have someone so easy to beat in the riding? Is Harold McCurdy also a nobody?

As for that its from the right wing windsor star and as usual this moronic paper got it wrong. The only NDP member I met was Howard McCurdy, so they may be pulling this out of their ass like usual anyway. Sounds the same though doesn't it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_McCurdy Not that Howard was on the left side of the party anyway. He was a Rae favourite.

Bad on them for getting the name wrong. Either way you should be very happy that this is a riding you think the NDP can count on keeping.

Sun, 2015-05-03 15:18

#26

jjuares

With Blair and Adams and his support for C-51 and the idiocy of the Liberal attack on a union negotiated benefit, it is getting very difficult for me to contain my increasing contempt for Trudeau.