Another French Terrorist Attack on Gas Factory Near Grenoble

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Another French Terrorist Attack on Gas Factory Near Grenoble

Suspected Islamist Attack in France

https://youtu.be/xNc4nt0z4xE

"One man was reportedly beheaded and some 10 others injured in a suspected Islamist attack on a French factory in Grenoble."

https://youtu.be/xNc4nt0z4xE

NDPP

Suspected Islamist Attack at French Gas Factory LIVE UPDATES

http://rt.com/news/269896-islamist-attack-french-factory/

1148 GMT: "In a statement, former French President Nicolas Sarkozy said 'We solemnly ask the government to shed light on the exact circumstances of the attack and take absolutely all the lessons of this latest attack by improving our level of vigilance..."

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Not to sound conservative but I think France has a real immigration problem.

I don't know what it is about France and Islamic terrorism. Is it because alot of North Africa are French colonies?

Apparently they have someone in custody.Maybe that would shed some light.

NDPP

Live: Man Decapitated in Terror Attack At French Gas Factory LIVE

http://www.france24.com/en/20150626-live-terrorist-attack-souteast-franc...

Here are the main developments so far:

"According to regional daily Le Dauphine Lbere, the attacker entered the factory, owned by US company Air Products in the town of Saint-Quentin-Fallaner, claiming he belonged to the Islamic State (IS) group.

Police said the decapitated head was found at the site, along with a flag bearing Islamist inscriptions. Le Dauphine Libere said the head was also covered in Arabic writing...."

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The suspect was apparently under surveillance.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/26/europe/france-attack/index.html

Peace bonds and spying didn't help.

NDPP

Hotels Attacked in Tunisia's Sousse, 27 Killed: Interior Ministry

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/06/26/417586/Tunisia-Sousse-tourist-h...

"Nearly 30 people, mostly tourists, have been killed and tens of others injured, in an attack by unidentified armed men on a tourist resort in the central Tunisian town of Sousse. Local media said those killed were mostly German and British nationals.

No idividual or group has claimed responsibility for the act of terror yet..."

lagatta

I don't have proof yet, but it looks as if the suspect is a Frenchperson, probably of Maghrebi (North African) descent. He was married and lived in a nearby town.

I'll never make any excuses for jihadi terrorism, but one of the reasons is persistent discrimination against this group of people (though we mustn't stereotype - most Frenchpeople of Maghrebi origin aren't particularly religious, and many are well integrated into society). And the failure of the earlier, progressive movements such as La Marche des Beurs against discrimination, police harassment etc).

It isn't the first time reactionary movements have deveoped among disaffected and discriminated groups. I'm more interested in how society, and in particular racialized Frenchpeople (particularly North and West Africans) can combat this violent and reactionary movement. The suspect, Yassin Salhi, isn't a kid. He was born in 1980, which would make him 34 or 35.

There has been a terror attack in Tunisia as well.

NDPP

Terror Attacks on 3 Continents (and vid)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/26/africa/tunisia-terror-attack/index.html

Terror attacks in Tunisia, France and a mosque in Kuwait

lagatta

More on the suspect: http://www.lemonde.fr/police-justice/article/2015/06/26/qui-est-yassin-s... Seemed like monsieur tout le monde; evidently had children.

Already a wiki article: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attentat_de_Saint-Quentin-Fallavier

It is a common name. There is also a Yassine Salhi (same name, different transliteration) who is an international footballer from Morocco.

NDPP

Terror Monitor.org

https://twitter.com/Terror_Monitor

There seems to be a coordinated, world-wide attack taking place...

lagatta

I do hope they don't only monitor Islamist terror though.

NDPP

That Most Terrorists Aren't Muslim May 'Come as a Surprise' - If You Get Your News From Corporate Media

http://fair.org/home/that-most-terrorists-arent-muslim-may-come-as-a-sur...

"The 'surprise' is that more people are killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims..."

NDPP

Tunisia Live

https://twitter.com/Tunisia_Live

British, German and  Belgian tourists are among the dead

NDPP

Documentary: France Anti-Muslim Backlash

http://www.doamuslims.org/?p=1871

NDPP

Bomb Attack Kills 25, Injures Dozens at Shia Mosque in Kuwait City (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/06/26/417582/Explosion-mosque-Kuwaiti...

"The Takfiri ISIL terrorist group has claimed responsibility for the attack..."

Mr. Magoo

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Peace bonds and spying didn't help.

I suppose 24/7 surveillance could do something.  But they seriously thought a peace bond would mean anything?

They're basically saying "you'll forfeit some gold coins here on earth if you insist on doing your God's bidding".  That's going to mean exactly jack shit to ANY fundamentalist of any religion.  Even less so if you don't really expect to survive your own attack.

Mr. Magoo

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That Most Terrorists Aren't Muslim May 'Come as a Surprise' - If You Get Your News From Corporate Media

That the article is talking about U.S. domestic terrorism may 'come as a surprise' if you only go by their headline.

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Mr. Magoo wrote:

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Peace bonds and spying didn't help.

I suppose 24/7 surveillance could do something.  But they seriously thought a peace bond would mean anything?

They're basically saying "you'll forfeit some gold coins here on earth if you insist on doing your God's bidding".  That's going to mean exactly jack shit to ANY fundamentalist of any religion.  Even less so if you don't really expect to survive your own attack.

I agree with you. Here in Montréal they suspected this individual (sorry,can't provide his name) of planning an attack. So the geniuses in Québec Court made him sign a peace bond.

Yep,that'll stop things from happening.

It's an ideology which cannot be fixed by Crisis centres or killed with bombs and bullets. As for the latter,that just strengthens the ideology.

You'd think Harper would recognize that fact,being a ideologue himself.

NDPP

'Careful With the Blame Game Following Terrorist Attacks' - Geroid O Colmain (and audio)

http://rt.com/op-edge/269974-france-terror-attack-factory/

"...One of the problems with terrorist attacks is that as soon as they occur the media tends to construct a narrative favorable to the ongoing phony war on terror - a war which consists of arming and training Islamist terror groups to fight countries like Libya and Syria who refuse to do the West's bidding in terms of their geopolitics and their regional and international policies...

I expect the same kind of witch-hunt, in terms of anybody who asks any questions ridiculed and demonized as some sort of anti-rationalist, as we saw during the Charlie Hebdo affair.

The public was told, even by the sociopathic press here, that our allies are in fact funding al-Qaeda and IS. I could quote an article for example from Le Monde in February 2012 with the head of intelligence in Turkey who was a close confidant of Erdogan.

It was openly admitted that he was funding IS in Syria and that he was supplying arms to IS and al Nusra, which is an al-Qaeda group. I should point out that Turkey is a NATO member. That means that a NATO member is involved in funding and supplying arms to IS.

So the kind of debate we should be having and would have if we had a free society and a free press in Europe would be: 'Let's go after the people who are supplying arms to IS and that's how we might be able to neutralize this threat."

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NDPP wrote:

 

So the kind of debate we should be having and would have if we had a free society and a free press in Europe would be: 'Let's go after the people who are supplying arms to IS and that's how we might be able to neutralize this threat."

That would be both rational and logical...Therefore,it ain't gonna happen.

Paladin1

alan smithee wrote:

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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Peace bonds and spying didn't help.

I suppose 24/7 surveillance could do something.  But they seriously thought a peace bond would mean anything?

They're basically saying "you'll forfeit some gold coins here on earth if you insist on doing your God's bidding".  That's going to mean exactly jack shit to ANY fundamentalist of any religion.  Even less so if you don't really expect to survive your own attack.

I agree with you. Here in Montréal they suspected this individual (sorry,can't provide his name) of planning an attack. So the geniuses in Québec Court made him sign a peace bond.

Yep,that'll stop things from happening.

 

Criminals don't obey the law.  Chances are they didn't possess one of Frances restrictive firearm licences either.

Peace bonds are jokes.  Anyone who has dealt with an abusive partner knows that.

NDPP

Of course not. But even msm raises certain troubling possibilities to those paying attention.

'Canada's $14.8 B Arms Deal with Saudi Monarchy' or 'Reports Link Islamic State Recruiter to Canadian Embassy in Jordan', 'American Aircraft Drops Weapons to ISIS', 'Netanyahu Visits Field Hospital for Wounded Syrian Rebels'  etc. More in the ISIS thread..

And as for our glorious RCAF operations bombing ISIS for more than a year,  - consider the image of long caravans of hundreds of white Toyota trucks stretching for miles across an open desert repeatedly travelling from Iraq to Syria and across the region without impedence let alone bombing.

Consider that like Turkey, we too are a NATO country, and that terrorists are sometimes 'useful'...

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NDPP wrote:

Of course not. But even msm raises certain troubling possibilities to those paying attention.

'Canada's $14.8 B Arms Deal with Saudi Monarchy' or 'Reports Link Islamic State Recruiter to Canadian Embassy in Jordan', 'American Aircraft Drops Weapons to ISIS', 'Netanyahu Visits Field Hospital for Wounded Syrian Rebels'  etc. More in the ISIS thread..

And as for our glorious RCAF operations bombing ISIS for more than a year,  - consider the image of long caravans of hundreds of white Toyota trucks stretching for miles across an open desert repeatedly travelling from Iraq to Syria and across the region without impedence let alone bombing.

Consider that like Turkey, we too are a NATO country, and that terrorists are sometimes 'useful'...

Rotten to the core.I suppose a perpetual war is just another dirty trick to keep right wing governments in power. Funny how people run for cover in the arms of the very people who are funding this mess.

Who benefits? Oil interests...Military complex...Israel? I don't see any benefit.Perhaps I'm blind.

Mr. Magoo

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Peace bonds are jokes.  Anyone who has dealt with an abusive partner knows that.

"So what's the price -- in dollars -- of me being allowed to terrorize my ex?"

NDPP

alan smithee wrote:

Who benefits?

 

I have more questions than answers too. I do know it's not as shown on the news. And your question is always the right one to start with alan..

NDPP

Deadly Attack on Beach Near Tourist Hotels in Tunisia LIVE UPDATES

http://rt.com/news/269971-tunisia-hotels-tourists-attack/

2357 GMT: Tunisia cannot cope with the international extremism threat on its own, said President Beji Caid Essebi, calling for a global strategy to tackle the terrorists.

'We note that Tunisia faces an international movement. It cannot respond alone to this. On the same day at the same time France has been the target of such an operation, and Kuwait too. This proves the need for a global strategy, and that all democratic countries must now join forces.'

The Islamic State terrorist group has claimed responsibility for the deadly attack."

Paladin1

It's only going to take a couple attacks on Canadian soil and people will be demanding to throw their freedom away fo security.

 

kropotkin1951

Paladin1 wrote:

It's only going to take a couple attacks on Canadian soil and people will be demanding to throw their freedom away fo security.

Fortunately for us the idea of a black ops event in the midst of an election campaign is totally ridiculous and could never happen in Canada.

NorthReport

No need any more as with C51 they can just swoop down and round up the next group of peace protesters, eh!

NDPP

Didn't know there still were any...

NDPP

Dozens Killed in Terrorist Attacks in Tunisia, France and Kuwait  -  by Alex Lantier

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/06/27/terr-j27.html

"...These three horrific assaults targeting innocent victims will only sow anger and fear among masses of people and strengthen reactionary law-and-order forces in all three countries."

Paladin1

The suspect in the french terrorist attack took a selfie of the decapitated victim and send it to a Canadian cell phone number.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-release-1-4-suspects-held-over-france-09580...

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FONTAINES-SUR-SAONE, France (AP) — The top suspect in the beheading of a businessman that French authorities are calling terrorist attack took a "selfie" photo with the slain victim and sent the image via WhatsApp to a Canadian mobile phone number, officials said Saturday.

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The suspect must be happy that France abolished the guillotine in 1981.

NDPP

ISIS is Back - Just in Time to Prove We Do Need The Surveillance State After All

http://off-guardian.org/2015/06/26/isis-is-back-just-in-time-to-prove-we...

"ISIS, the insurmountable, indestructible, undefeatable multi-billion dollar terrorist network oil empire, with its own currency, its own banking system, its own film studios and unlimited numbers of trucks has struck again.

And - once again - they have inadvertently done so at a moment that benefits the strategic and diplomatic interests of their alleged mortal enemy - the United States of America.

'There's something very weird and strange and not right about ISIS,' said veteran war reporter Eric Margolis..."

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NDPP wrote:

ISIS is Back - Just in Time to Prove We Do Need The Surveillance State After All

http://off-guardian.org/2015/06/26/isis-is-back-just-in-time-to-prove-we...

"ISIS, the insurmountable, indestructible, undefeatable multi-billion dollar terrorist network oil empire, with its own currency, its own banking system, its own film studios and unlimited numbers of trucks has struck again.

And - once again - they have inadvertently done so at a moment that benefits the strategic and diplomatic interests of their alleged mortal enemy - the United States of America.

'There's something very weird and strange and not right about ISIS,' said veteran war reporter Eric Margolis..."

Like I eluded to.They are being propped up by the right wing.All they seem to be accomplishing is destroying our democracy and freedoms. Attacks seem to happen at suspicious times.

Conservative governments in America and Europe are probably in back rooms celebrating these attacks because it gives them the leverage to turn our society into a military state,which I believe is the benefit I was looking for.

Paladin1

alan smithee wrote:

 

Conservative governments in America and Europe are probably in back rooms celebrating these attacks because it gives them the leverage to turn our society into a military state,which I believe is the benefit I was looking for.

 

Yup.

Mr. Magoo

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And - once again - they have inadvertently done so at a moment that benefits the strategic and diplomatic interests of their alleged mortal enemy - the United States of America.

If we assume that the USA just wants to put tracking collars on all citizens and sign trillion dollar defence deals, then when would there realistically be a moment that didn't benefit that??

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'There's something very weird and strange and not right about ISIS,' said veteran war reporter Eric Margolis..."

Indeed.  But not the desire to return to some kind of 9th century world or anything.  THAT'S not strange.  Nothing not right about that.  The only odd thing is that others who also seem to want to revisit the past seem to gain from their actions.  That clearly proves that they're in it together.  What other explanation???

NorthReport

Gruesome sure, but are we sure this was a terrorist attack?

French beheading: suspect confesses to boss's murder but motives unclear

Yassin Salhi told police he wanted to kill himself and stage media coup by dressing it up as terrorist act, according to TV report

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/28/french-beheading-attack-sus...

NorthReport

Isis, a year of the caliphate: 4 maps that show how far and fast the group has spread

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-a-year-of-the-c...

NorthReport

Kuwait Shiite mosque bomber was Saudi national: ministry

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/kuwait-shiite-mosque-bomber-was-saudi-n...