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Mr. Magoo
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Mr. Magoo

Those in the know suggest the hack has the earmarks of an inside job.  So, less likely that it's moralistic "hacktivists" expressing outrage at adultery, and more likely an employee or former employee expressing outrage at their employer.

Meanwhile, I'd like to remind people that "Magoo" is a VERY COMMON NAME.  Lots of people named Magoo, OK?

Pondering

LOL, guess who got caught, Josh Duggar, the man who wouldn't kiss before marriage.

takeitslowly

why would people who cheat even use a site for cheaters? whats next? a dating website for criminals?

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

takeitslowly wrote:

 whats next? a dating website for criminals?

It exists.

takeitslowly

I shoudnt talk about criminals ins uch a way, many of them are attractive and kind men who have changed thier ways.

Mr. Magoo

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I shoudnt talk about criminals ins uch a way, many of them are attractive and kind men who have changed thier ways.

And one woman.

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LOL, guess who got caught, Josh Duggar, the man who wouldn't kiss before marriage.

To be fair, by definition adultery can only happen AFTER marriage.  Did he express any policies in that regard?

I have to say, though, I'd laugh even harder if his dad had an account.  That could explain the "and Counting" part of "19 Kids and Counting".

takeitslowly

maybe his dad did use his son's name, whats the harm since Josh is already a well known child molestor. Son, take one for the team!

Mr. Magoo

I have to confess, I always smirked a little at AM's tagline:  "Life is short; have an affair".  It's completely amoral, but within the context of amorality it kind of makes sense.

If that tagline had already been trademarked, I'd have suggested:  "Like Tinder and Craigslist, but at least we're honest about it".

quizzical

some people sure protest too much over this. sure enough it's a breach of privacy. but really taking a extreme moral high ground on how people should have the privacy to screw their family over seems...well...hyprocritial

takeitslowly

but anyone can use anyone's email to set up an account and setting up an account does not mean cheating. It can create alot of confusion

Mr. Magoo

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some people sure protest too much over this. sure enough it's a breach of privacy. but really taking a extreme moral high ground on how people should have the privacy to screw their family over seems...well...hyprocritial

I've seen it suggested that a paternity test should be done following the birth of any child ("so that that child's medical and genetic history will be accurate").

Would that be an invasion of anyone's privacy?  Anyone's privacy to "screw their family over" by having an affair?

Or should we do that, for the almost-rational reason given?

abnormal

Pondering wrote:

LOL, guess who got caught, Josh Duggar, the man who wouldn't kiss before marriage.

You do have to feel sorry for his wife.  She comes from the same sort of background that Josh does.  Home schooled, no post secondary education, no marketable skills.  Raised to be nothing more than some man's owned vagina she's trapped.

Paladin1

Mr. Magoo wrote:

I've seen it suggested that a paternity test should be done following the birth of any child ("so that that child's medical and genetic history will be accurate").

 

I would have to find the article for credibility but I remember reading an article about a hospital (I want to say in the 60s?) that had some project or something where they were doing paternity tests and I want to say without the knowledge of the parents, or perhaps misleading them about the tests? Anyways the article went on to say the hospital was blind sided with the amount of births where the child wasn't from the presumed father and they quickly shut down the testing and burried it.

 

I just read there's a 760 million lawsuit filed against Ashley Madison owners.

Members technically don't need to have their email addresses verified and anyone could presumeably use someone elses email address but I think it might be hard for 39 million people give or take claim someone else signed up with their email

voice of the damned

PALADIN WROTE: "I think it might be hard for 39 million people give or take claim someone else signed up with their email"

The 39 million people aren't going to be issuing a collective denial covering every single one of them. Individuals, speaking for no one but their own personal self, will just say to their spouses, partners, friends, media etc "That wasn't me there, someone just signed up using my name". And the spouses, partners, friends, media etc will decide how much credibility to give that, case by case.

It's possible that the biggest loser here might be Ashley Madison itself. Because it has now been revealed that only 30% of the users were female, and of those, a good number seem to have been fake. So, rather than a sophisiticated, top-drawer adultery site, this is looking more and more like just one more internet dive where guys sit around jerking off to dirty conversations with other guys.

kropotkin1951

I am sure the ratio of people in Ottawa on this Cheating Is Great site has nothing to do with all the politico's who spend extended periods in the capital while their spouses stay home.

Mr. Magoo

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Individuals, speaking for no one but their own personal self, will just say to their spouses, partners, friends, media etc "That wasn't me there, someone just signed up using my name". And the spouses, partners, friends, media etc will decide how much credibility to give that, case by case.

For those with a "free" membership, this could fly.

For those with a paid membership, AM evidently retained the last four digits of the credit card used to sign up.  The chances of a random number matching the last four digits of your credit card are one in ten thousand -- exactly the same as the odds of guessing someone's ATM PIN on the first try.

quizzical

voice of the damned wrote:
this is looking more and more like just one more internet dive where guys sit around jerking off to dirty conversations with other guys.

happy to hear this. maybe  it's why there's a law suit, all the men feel ripped off.

they could've saved some money in fees by just recording someone talking dirty on their phone and played it back to themselves. :D

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voice of the damned

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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Individuals, speaking for no one but their own personal self, will just say to their spouses, partners, friends, media etc "That wasn't me there, someone just signed up using my name". And the spouses, partners, friends, media etc will decide how much credibility to give that, case by case.

For those with a "free" membership, this could fly.

For those with a paid membership, AM evidently retained the last four digits of the credit card used to sign up.  The chances of a random number matching the last four digits of your credit card are one in ten thousand -- exactly the same as the odds of guessing someone's ATM PIN on the first try.

Ah, I see. What was the ratio of free to paid memberships?

Paladin1

I've seen a couple articles about people being paid to sit there, come up with fake profiles all day and chat away.

 

I hope Ashley Madison gets the, uhh, pants sued off them.

Mr. Magoo

No idea.  I'm not even positive there were "free" memberships -- I just picked that up from the context of some-or-other story.  But I did read that when AM stored credit card numbers, they only stored the last four digits, and that they didn't validate e-mail addresses precisely so that nobody could be positively linked to their site (though I would argue that the four digits provide a very compelling link -- not 100% accurate, but 99.99% accurate).

lagatta

As usual, misleading advertising, with those handsome young men and alluring women.

takeitslowly

well even if women dont go on ashely madison, that does nto mean they cheat less as men, they cheat in different way, men cheat with strangers they hook up and find online,  women cheat with people they already know through real life. Thats my theory. um.

quizzical

don't know if you're right or not but the first throught coming to mind for me when i read it was...'it's not safe for women to meet up with strangers why would they?'

Mr. Magoo

This is a bit off-topic, but are more women sexually assaulted by strangers than by men they know?  I'm asking because I'd always thought it was the other way around.

abnormal

Why do you have an Ashley Madison account??

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/entertainment/2015/08/20/conan-ashley-madi...

 

 

quizzical

why are you just limiting our safety concerns to sexual assaults?

and once you go on a date or have a netship they're known to you....

6079_Smith_W

alan smithee wrote:

Sleaze.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQp9mkuCYBM

Wow. I can't believe that is serious, it is so much a parody of itself. The obvious punch line aside - that someone is looking for an alternative to them -  they so white, young, mainstream good looking and straight.

Dan Savage brought a bit of clarity to this little freakout:

http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2015/08/19/22724283/so-youre-thinking-about-checking-to-see-if-your-husband-or-wife-was-on-ashely-madison

The whole piece is worth reading - not just because of his pointing out how many lurkers are on those sites - but  especially this:

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Cheating is something that will probably happen. Like, just putting that out there first, the research and the data shows that roughly 50% of men, 50% of women, in long-term relationships, at some point will cheat. And those 50% of men are not married to those 50% of women. So it will touch almost all committed monogamous relationships. So what’s gonna be your reaction if and when that happens to you?...

Some people accuse me because I’m pro non-monogamy that I’m giving get out of jail free cards to serial adulterers. And I’m not. People should honor the commitments that they make. If you make an monogamous commitment, you should attempt to keep it, attempt to honor it, do your best.

 

Paladin1

takeitslowly wrote:

maybe his dad did use his son's name, whats the harm since Josh is already a well known child molestor. Son, take one for the team!

 

I heard on the radio today there's talk about Josh's wife blaming herself for him being on the site.

kropotkin1951

abnormal

Paladin1 wrote:

takeitslowly wrote:

maybe his dad did use his son's name, whats the harm since Josh is already a well known child molestor. Son, take one for the team!

I heard on the radio today there's talk about Josh's wife blaming herself for him being on the site.

Supposedly his wife is shouldering at least part of the blame - Josh's mother's tip for a successful marriage is for the wife to never refuse the husband no matter what.

 

abnormal

Mr. Magoo wrote:
To be fair, by definition adultery can only happen AFTER marriage.  Did he express any policies in that regard?

He actually opened the accounts after he was married.  He also had an OK Cupid account (another dating/hookup site) and he supposedly had a fake Facebook page.

Seems Josh may be sued over his online activity - on the OK Cupid site he used someone else's picture and that individual's business is suffering because of it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3207100/Josh-Duggar-s-scand...

 

Mr. Magoo
abnormal
6079_Smith_W

Puts their "life is short" slogan in a whole new light.

voice of the damned

6079_Smith_W wrote:

Puts their "life is short" slogan in a whole new light.

Post Of The Month.

bagkitty bagkitty's picture

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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I've seen it suggested that a paternity test should be done following the birth of any child ("so that that child's medical and genetic history will be accurate").

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I believe that is summed up in the saying "Motherhood is an observable fact, paternity is an opinion".

mark_alfred

bagkitty wrote:

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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I've seen it suggested that a paternity test should be done following the birth of any child ("so that that child's medical and genetic history will be accurate").

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I believe that is summed up in the saying "Motherhood is an observable fact, paternity is an opinion".

A friend of mine who's married with kids decided to keep her own name, but also felt it was a good idea for the kids to have her husband's last name.  "It helps foster a sense of ownership -- after all, there's no question that they're my kids, but for guys, well, it's always a bit less certain."