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Brachina

 People talking shit, its about the Satellite Offices.

Rev Pesky

I see from CBC news that Mulcair will not participate in the Women's Issues debate. This has caused the umbrella group that was sponsoring the debate to call it off. Mulcair had said he would participate, then changed his mind. Apparently the deciding factor was that Harper was not going to be there.

I believe this is a serious error on the part of the NDP. He could have been there, and spent a good deal of his time pointing to the 'empty chair'. This would have highlighted the lack of any kind of program from the Conservative party. It also could have been a very important debate on various issues such as child care, pensions for homeworkers, equality in the workplace...let's face it, there's no shortage of items to be discussed.

 

mark_alfred

Gerry Caplan reviews Tom Mulcair's new book, Strength of Conviction.  Caplan feels it's a good read.  link

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Rev Pesky wrote:

I see from CBC news that Mulcair will not participate in the Women's Issues debate. This has caused the umbrella group that was sponsoring the debate to call it off. Mulcair had said he would participate, then changed his mind. Apparently the deciding factor was that Harper was not going to be there.

I believe this is a serious error on the part of the NDP. He could have been there, and spent a good deal of his time pointing to the 'empty chair'. This would have highlighted the lack of any kind of program from the Conservative party. It also could have been a very important debate on various issues such as child care, pensions for homeworkers, equality in the workplace...let's face it, there's no shortage of items to be discussed.

 

That's how I feel too. Debates,regardless whether PM Mussolini participates or not,showcase the party's platform. In fact,if Benito refuses consortium debates,let him be absent and hammer home your message and at the same time point out that Mussolini has something to hide which is clearly the case.

Very bad idea by the NDP.

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mark_alfred

alan smithee wrote:

Is Tom Mulcair a closet Tory?

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/is-tom-mulcair-a-closet-tory-fr...

The article claims that "Ed Broadbent doesn't like him", which is false.  Broadbent was won over, and speaks very highly of Mulcair now.  link

Quote:
Broadbent says Mulcair will connect because of his policies: $15-a-day daycare, a $15 minimum wage and an increase to corporate tax rates.

Also, Stephen Lewis recently spoke very highly of Mulcair at a campaign event (yesterday, 24 Aug 2015 -- can be seen on CPAC) .  Mulcair has the backing of people like Broadbent and Lewis and Caplan.

josh

alan smithee wrote:

Is Tom Mulcair a closet Tory?

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/is-tom-mulcair-a-closet-tory-fr...

He's not really closeted

NDPP

 NDP warhawks - prepare yourselves...

 

Military Spending Might Be NDP's Secret Weapon

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/military-spending-might-be-n...

"Stephen Harper's Conservatives, should we go by oversimplified stereotypes, are the party that never saw a war it didn't like. The New Democrats by contrast have a long-lasting pacifist image.

Given the stark divergence it would be rather strange to expect the New Democrats to propose higher military spending than the Conservatives. But don't be dumbfounded if it happens.

'You might well imagine,' an adviser to Thomas Mulcair was telling me, 'Tom coming out in September and saying Harper has driven down defence spending to one per cent of GDP. We're going to raise it to 1.2%.'

Another adviser cautioned the level of support might not be that high - a 20 per cent increase - but significant enough to show Canadians the NDP is by no means soft on defence.

In raising the military budget, Mr Mulcair could risk alienating parts of the party's base, which might go all squirrelly..."

 

Nonsense, the NDP cuckoldum has proven it is up for anything and will just keep coming back for more.

josh

Coming to a theater near you: The Mulcairian Candidate.

Unionist

alan smithee wrote:

Is Tom Mulcair a closet Tory?

He'll never beat the original closet Tory.

mark_alfred

Stephen Lewis pledges his support

Stephen Lewis wrote:
For the first time in our history, Canadians can elect a truly progressive federal government. Tom Mulcair is a strong, experienced, and principled leader ready to get Canada on track.

NDPP

NDP Government Wouldn't Run a Deficit To Finance Spending Plan, Mulcair Says

http://www.nationalnewswatch.com/2015/08/25/ndp-government-wouldnt-run-a...

"An NDP government would not need to run a deficit to finance its promises, leader Tom Mulcair said Tuesday, taking his party's message of responsible economic stewardship to staunch Conservative territory.

'Our first budget will be a balanced budget,' he said.

NDP candidate Andrew Thomson, a former Saskatchewan finance minister said on CBC that some cuts are 'inevitable', which the Liberals pounced on as proof of an 'austerity' agenda..."

 

Rev Pesky

Increases in military spending are possible while cuts are 'inevitable' in promising a  balanced budget.

Who's in charge of this circus? I guarantee that if Stephen Harper stood up and promised more military spending at the same time as announciing cuts in other areas (what? health care? education?) the shouting from the NDP gallery would be loud and long. And yet there it is, more or less in black and white. Militiary spending will be increased while other spending will suffer 'inevitable' cuts.

I will say that personally I am opposed to budget deficits. They lead nowhere but down. How many governments around the world are held in thrall by their bondholders?

But at this stage, given the track record of the current government, the NDP could very rightly say that until they see what an unholy mess the governments finances are in, they can't make any hard and fast spending decisions. They could also take the opportunity to remind folks of the battle between the Parliamentary Budget Office and the PMO, which resulted in the supposedly independent head of the PBO being tossed. Like everyone else who's ever disagreed with Harper, he ended up in the street.

 

 

 

 

josh

NDPP wrote:

NDP Government Wouldn't Run a Deficit To Finance Spending Plan, Mulcair Says

http://www.nationalnewswatch.com/2015/08/25/ndp-government-wouldnt-run-a...

"An NDP government would not need to run a deficit to finance its promises, leader Tom Mulcair said Tuesday, taking his party's message of responsible economic stewardship to staunch Conservative territory.

'Our first budget will be a balanced budget,' he said.

NDP candidate Andrew Thomson, a former Saskatchewan finance minister said on CBC that some cuts are 'inevitable', which the Liberals pounced on as proof of an 'austerity' agenda..."

 

Keynesianism out, Thatcherism in. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

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I've been saying (take a look at some of my past comments) that this brand of NDP would govern like the Liberals.

But between Thatcher,Israel and now increasing military spending peppered with 'inevitable cuts' I think the NDP is becoming Conservative-lite.

I think partisans should consider this everytime they go and attack the Liberals.

Mulcair's NDP deserves the criticism it is getting and so far is proving itself as just another neoliberal party looking for power.

I'm going to get attacked for saying it but I'm looking at the party without partisan orange coloured glasses. The reality isn't pretty.

josh

Rev Pesky wrote:

Increases in military spending are possible while cuts are 'inevitable' in promising a  balanced budget.

Who's in charge of this circus? I guarantee that if Stephen Harper stood up and promised more military spending at the same time as announciing cuts in other areas (what? health care? education?) the shouting from the NDP gallery would be loud and long. And yet there it is, more or less in black and white. Militiary spending will be increased while other spending will suffer 'inevitable' cuts.

I will say that personally I am opposed to budget deficits. They lead nowhere but down. How many governments around the world are held in thrall by their bondholders?

Tell that to the U.S. Whose recovery has been much stronger than Canada's and Britain precisely because it ran large budget deficits. It's called Keynesianism

As for your first point, it's pretty clear that the party and its supporters will swallow anything, no matter how distasteful, for victory.

Pondering

Mulcair doubles down on no deficits.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/08/26/mulcair-not-entertaining-any-tho...

Mulcair says an NDP government would not run a deficit, even if market forces change, saying "we are not entertaining any thought of that."

The NDP leader toured a small manufacturing business in London, Ont., today to highlight a proposed tax credit for businesses that invest in machinery, equipment and property used in innovative research and development.

Mulcair also says he would lower the small business tax rate, but he is not yet talking about what spending cuts would be needed to ensure his budget would be balanced.

When asked about cuts, he talked about making "difficult decisions" around the cabinet table, but said he would be rolling out a fully costed platform.

So with Harper coming out of a decade of deficits, Mulcair is going to deliver a balanced budget within one year. Good to know his priorities. 

mark_alfred

It will be interesting to see all the parties' platforms, and see how each of them cost their expenditures.  The difference between the NDP and the Libs & Cons is that the NDP are willing to increase corporate taxes to have increased revenue, which gives them an advantage over the other two right-wing parties that are not willing to do this.

josh

The other two right-wing parties? Yes there are three.

Brachina

josh wrote:

The other two right-wing parties? Yes there are three.

 Agreed, there are 3 rightwing parties, Liberals, Tories, and Greens

Rev Pesky

josh wrote:
...Tell that to the U.S. Whose recovery has been much stronger than Canada's and Britain precisely because it ran large budget deficits. It's called Keynesianism

As for your first point, it's pretty clear that the party and its supporters will swallow anything, no matter how distasteful, for victory.

The USA is in a unique position in that the US dollar is the reserve currency of the world. No matter what happens to the US, their dollar is still in demand. The method they have used to finance their economy (quantative easing) is good for now, but not forever. Eventually they'll have to absorb that debt, and when they do there'll be trouble.

Rev Pesky

mark_alfred wrote:

It will be interesting to see all the parties' platforms, and see how each of them cost their expenditures.  The difference between the NDP and the Libs & Cons is that the NDP are willing to increase corporate taxes to have increased revenue, which gives them an advantage over the other two right-wing parties that are not willing to do this.

Today, from the CBC:

Quote:
NDP Leader Tom Mulcair promised to give the sagging manufacturing sector a boost by delivering an innovation tax credit worth $40 million.

"The manufacturing industry helped Canada's middle class, however over the last 15 years, this important sector has been hit hard by job losses," he said during a campaign stop in London, Ont. "Consecutive Liberal and Conservative governments have sat on the sidelines while half a million manufacturing jobs disappear."

Doesn't sound much like a corporate tax increase to me...

 

 

 

mark_alfred

Yes, an innovation tax credit and a corporate tax increase are two different things.  An investment in a million child care spaces over eight years and a corporate tax increase are also two different things.  A balanced budget and a corporate tax increase are two different things.  Can these things all come from the same government?  If it's the NDP, then maybe yes.  If Liberal or Conservative, then definitely not.

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Brachina wrote:

josh wrote:

The other two right-wing parties? Yes there are three.

 Agreed, there are 3 rightwing parties, Liberals, Tories, and Greens

Actually there are 5.

Left of Left

I think you miss the point, Rev. You don't just give business a freebie tax break, like both the Libs and Cons have been so fond of doing in getting Canada's corporate tax rate down to the lowest in the western world with absolutely nothing to show for it besides a larger public debt and fewer revenues to pay for services because all the corporations have done with it is to simply fatten-up their bottom lines with "the gift".

In many cases it's been a distinct disincentive for them to do more and hire more people to achieve that. In some instances they've even shut down divisions and depts. and laid-off people because they can maintain the same level of profitability without them thanks to all those tax reductions that were all given without any kind of strings or conditions attached to them. Martin was worst villian for doing just that at the same time he was slashing billions in transfer payments to presumably pay-down the national debt and of course cover up for that shortfall in revenues he himself created.

What Mulcair is offering here is a tax break to local manufacturers provided there is some form of investment and work being done on their part that will improve their viabiliity and competitiveness and that has the potential to translate into improved business and employment opportunities for them as well as others in their community as a way to modestly encourage that practice and lend it something of a helping hand if they qualify for it.

As to what amount Mulcair might actually raise that overall corporate tax rate, I suspect it will be no more than he needs to depending on how his first budget shapes up. Somewhere between a half and one percent for the time being. Nothing to startle or overly upset anyone. Mulcair is looking to be a worthy and reliable Prime Minister for all concerned, including big business that he will treat fairly and with an even hand, but with no special breaks or perks simply out of the goodness of the taxpayer's heart.

Having seen Martin trotted out alongside Justin, the subtext and silent message is that big business and the investor class will continue to come first if the Liberals can make a come-back under him. The same reason running off to Calgary to reassure the oil barons that it would be business as usual, or stumping for the Keystone in the US with the same script that Harper used was Justin's ery first order of business as the Liberal's new leader. 

 

 

 

Malcontent

Mulcair sure destroyed everything Jack built. The NDP will be lucky to get 30 seats.  I wonder if Tom will step down in 9 days?

Unionist

NorthReport, on Aug. 2, 2015 wrote:
NDP never before has gone into an election campaign leading in the polls, which is quite a remarkable achievement by Tom and the entire NDP team. It has taken a while because of the constant anti-NDP bias in the media however the timing could not be better for this to happen. As well it confirms what Canada's media does not want you to know which is that Mulcair played a huge role in the NPD obtaining 59 seats in Quebec in the 2011 election

From another Tom Mulcair thread. Emphasis mine.

 

NorthReport

So what happened when Mulcair was in charge, eh?

Mulcair obviously was a good lieutenant but as the leader he was hopeless.

bekayne

Here he goes again:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/mulcair-says-several-ndp-mps-have-told-h...

"Several" current NDP MPs will not be running again in 2019, on top of those who have already announced they won't seek re-election, according to former NDP leader Tom Mulcair.

"I know that a lot of my Quebec colleagues have already announced that they're not running and several others have confided in me that they're not going to run," Mulcair said on CTV's Power Play.

R.E.Wood

Recent comments by Thomas Mulcair have some wondering if he is attempting to undermine Jagmeet Singh

In an email to the Post, Mulcair said he’s simply doing his job.

“I’m now a political commentator,” he said, “paid to provide analysis based on my experience and knowledge. That’s what I do with regard to all political parties.”

But among New Democrats, there’s a range of reactions and a central question: Why is he doing this?

“I am surprised that Tom Mulcair is engaging in this behaviour,” said MP Charlie Angus in an email. “He was always a classy politician and when he was leader he expected loyalty from his caucus. Attempting to seed doubt on our leader Jagmeet Singh ‎hurts the party and isn’t helpful to our cause.”

... Still, to some, there’s something unique about Mulcair’s comments. “It’s kind of a public display of him kind of working through what he feels is a sense of betrayal from the party,” said one former staffer who worked under both Mulcair and Singh. He said he thinks Mulcair’s comments aren’t meant as a personal attack on Singh.

“I think he’s upset. In politics you give everything you have,” the staffer said. “I think he’s working through it. And unfortunately he’s doing it publicly.”

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/recent-comments-by-thomas-mulcair...

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